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  • #621326

    In reply to: Hot for Hillary

    Trick
    Participant

    sry, 70+

    (She’d kill me if she knew I was saying that)

    #621325

    In reply to: Hot for Hillary

    Trick
    Participant

    My mom who is 60+, raised with a conservative backhand liked both Hillary and Barack. Although now she is repulsed by Hillary’s tactics and is a staunch supporter of Barack.

    What’s your point?

    To discount someone’s age for their opinion and passion is about as elitist as me stating someone’s old age is irrelevant.

    #621324

    In reply to: Hot for Hillary

    JoB
    Participant

    JT..

    is that how this works?

    there wasn’t even much conversation when there was no dissenting point of view…

    Let’s see… I wasnt’ posting… those who posted chose the Hot for Hillary thread to post… and the posts were strongly anti-Hillary…

    hmm.. i’m sorry. i don’t see where i should take any responsibility for those who chose this thread to bash Hillary…

    but i am somehow responsible.. even for that which occurred while i wasn’t posting.. because i was rude enough to name it.

    LOL

    so.. if there is a dissenting point of view.. then that point of view is responsible for all ensuing statements…

    and you get to slap that personally on me since i am the only dissenting point of view…

    funny how that works…

    now THAT is a position i never thought you would take…

    i thought you a woman very much in favor of dissenting voices…

    #587075
    JenV
    Member

    What a gorgeous day! Here’s wishing everyone a stellar weekend!

    #621323

    In reply to: Hot for Hillary

    JoB
    Participant

    Beachdrivegirl…

    i may be wrong.. but i don’t think Hillary got to vote until she was 21.. i am pretty sure i didn’t.. but then my memory isn’t the best today.

    I am pretty sure letting young people vote at 18 is one of those things that the vietnam war ushered in… and it was still in full swing in the late 60s..

    I’m not going to look it up.

    It may seem inconceivable to you… as a young woman who was probably encouraged to think in your home… to imagine a life in which you were not only discouraged from independent thought, but punished for it.

    I was once beaten for expressing a political thought contrary to those my mother held.. and none of the adults in my life thought that was particularly out of line. I was a few weeks short of my 18th birthday at the time.

    I am not suggesting that Hillary’s parents were that oppressive.. they were after all better educated than my mother and one would hope more enlightened.. but just that it was not normal at all for a young teenager.. especially a young woman.. to hold or express any political views differing from those of her parents.

    it says a lot about her character that she chose to think for herself..

    Humans process knowledge through experience.. and it is too easy to think that what you have experienced in your lifetime is the way it has always been.

    I am very glad that is not true.

    I wouldn’t be at all surprised to learn that a good number of the women who post here as democrats started their political lives as republicans.. in the late 60s…

    most of us long before we could actually vote:)

    Once Hillary adopted the democratic party, she was passionate about it… and has stayed committed and passionate her entire life.

    So which should count more? A talking point based on youthful ignorance or a lifetime of committed work?

    BTW.. how well does Senator Obama’s record of commitment to the democratic party stand up against hers… at what age did he become active? Whose campaigns did he work on? What shaped his political view?

    I do know at least partial answers to some of those questions.. but i think it would be worthwhile if you are comparing records to look that info up for yourself…

    #621322

    In reply to: Hot for Hillary

    Kayleigh
    Member

    Jo, if you don’t stop pretending things I didn’t say and assuming I meant things that I specifically say I DID NOT mean, I will neither post nor respond to you again.

    Do you not remember the concept of taking things to a ridiculous extreme that nobody would embrace, in order to make a point?

    Jeez Louise on a Ritz Cracker ™.

    #624140
    Kimber5000
    Member

    Westseattledood

    Hahahaha. I know the $29 was insane. I think b/c it was Redmond, people would pay it.

    But yeah the food talk is like an epidemic around here. All the food, all the time! I try so hard to be good!

    #625179
    GenHillOne
    Participant

    Bulletin for food fans: Spring Hill Restaurant opens tonight

    Charlabob – a sample menu is on 5/27 comment – I think some things are still in flux as they fine tune the offerings, it’s only been a week after all. We went last night too and everything was terrific from apps to dessert. 14-year-old (thanks grr, and would have sent you a drink had I known!) loved the duck. It must have been amazing, because I, who don’t usually prefer it, liked it as well. Our only real hitch was the a la carte bread. Seemed a little gauche and out of place at that price point.

    #621321

    In reply to: Hot for Hillary

    Anonymous
    Inactive

    *If you were as confident in his nomination as you sound, you would simply be waiting out the process… not continually rehashing old business.*

    JoB, c’mon. Take some of the responsibility. When you re-entered the fray after an absence, this is how you began.

    *What would all of you done for a campaign if you hadn’t had Hillary to bash?*

    That, is nothing if not rehashing your viewpoint and then everyone responded and you act like you had no part of it.

    #621320

    In reply to: Hot for Hillary

    charlabob
    Participant

    Until the Last Dog Dies – Deborah Senn

    If you’re interested in a genuinely progressive woman politician, who should have been attorney general of Washington, check out this one woman performance by Deborah Senn. Among other things, she was done in by the odd notion of centrist Democrats that we should let “them” have one or two token positions.

    “Former WA State Insurance Commissioner and erstwhile politician Deborah Senn has really written a show and is really performing it herself to packed houses at CHAC. But this is a limited engagement for this weekend only (only 3 shows left)! Our phones have been ringing off the hook as people are trying to figure out if this is some kind of hoax. Hoax it is not!”

    http://seattlest.com/2008/05/29/fueled_by_the_i.php

    #624139
    inactive
    Member

    Kimber5000

    $29 a pair!!!!!!!! Are you kidding me????? !!!!!!!!

    Yikes that’s robbery! So glad you were happy with Mrs. Kim though!

    I’m just hoping I don’t have to go back to her to have all of my clothes let back OUT! Have you noticed how people around here talk about food and restaurants all of the time? Yikes.

    ;)

    #621319

    In reply to: Hot for Hillary

    JoB
    Participant

    Walfredo…

    LOL…those are all characteristics.. as you phrased them.. that you would find admirable in a male politician… and i would agree.. most politicians are at least borderline sociopaths:)

    but.. let’s just test a bit of this..

    ruthless ambition?

    So.. please tell me what Obama has done to benefit the citizens of his state or of the United States while he has been pursuing his ruthless ambition?

    because… funny enough… when you read people who have been associates of Obama’s and who do not support his presidency.. ruthless ambition is one of the phrases you often encounter:)

    imagine that.. ruthless ambition in a politician;-)

    #621318

    In reply to: Hot for Hillary

    JoB
    Participant

    trick..

    it was a short nap because i was in too much pain to sleep… as cranky as i might be when i am in pain.. as long as i can string words and type. this distraction helps.

    what i see clearly is that you are all afraid that Obama doesn’t have enough political clout to ride this out.

    If you were as confident in his nomination as you sound, you would simply be waiting out the process… not continually rehashing old business.

    None of the he said she said stuff really matters does it?

    The democratic party didn’t think they would find themselves in this pickle… and now they are stuck with it. They can’t politically deny seating at the convention to two states… there is far more at stake than the nomination…

    they never intended to.. the nominee was supposed to make the grand gesture and seat them after the party censured them.

    how it is resolved will be a result of the political process that your candidate wants to lead.

    If he doesn’t have the political power to lead his own party.. just how do you expect him to be effective as a president?

    we have had a lot of ineffective presidents…

    some of them with incredibly good ideas.. but no political power.

    Hopefully, we will finally get to see Obama the politician in action…

    I truly hope he wins my grudging respect.

    #624138
    add
    Participant

    Did you tell her that she has tons of fans on the WSB?? :)

    #624137
    Kimber5000
    Member

    Thank you so much for the suggestions.

    I ended up going to Ms. Kim, and she was amazing.

    She did beautiful work, I got them back quickly and she only charged $8 per pair of pants. (compared to $29 a pair that I used to pay in Redmond).

    I would suggest anyone who needs any type of garment work to go to Fits All / Ms. Kim.

    Thank you!

    #625637

    In reply to: Public running track?

    add
    Participant

    Running at Alki on the weekdays, even in the summer, is not crowded at all. Especially if you run during the day and start at the south end – just under the WS Bridge, which is at about 3.5 miles. There is usually no one down at that end – you can turn around at mile 1 and avoid the crowds!

    #621317

    In reply to: Hot for Hillary

    beachdrivegirl
    Participant

    [13] She then volunteered to campaign for Republican candidate Barry Goldwater in the U.S. presidential election of 1964.[14]

    During her freshman year, she served as president of the Wellesley Young Republicans;[18][19] with this Rockefeller Republican-oriented group,[20] she supported the elections of John Lindsay and Edward Brooke.[21] –from Wikipidia seems pretty Republican to me, but then again its problem them just being biased.

    hmm. and then you talk about the failure of your generation and this is the generation you think I should follow in vote?

    #621316

    In reply to: Hot for Hillary

    JoB
    Participant

    beachdrivegirl…

    “it was a 60 year old woman who was do devoted to the democratic party that she was once a republican”…

    LOL

    I am not positive her very first vote was cast as a democrat… but if she ever cast a vote as a republican i would be surprised… and i am positive there were few of those if any.

    She certainly had the intelligence to recognize the failure in her parent’s political stance at a fairly young age… once she left home and was exposed to other ideas.

    I should think that would be something to be admired….

    I was a young republican too before i could vote.. a lot of us were. It’s what our families were…

    but i too learned fairly quickly to think for myself.

    Yes, you are under 50… and it should come as no surprise to you that those who have lived longer than you have a significantly different perspective than yours…

    after all.. you will too one day.

    As someone from the generation that didn’t trust anyone over 30.. and thought they had nothing to learn from their elders..

    i can tell you that i was very wrong… We would have been far more effective if we had joined our youthful passion to those who had been carrying our fight long before we discovered it…

    had we stopped reinventing the wheel and simply revolutionized it instead…

    but we didn’t believe that anyone who had gotten us into this mess knew enough to help get us out.

    We confused those who had been carried along under protest with those who had actively participated.

    It took years of study and listening for me to understand the failure of our generation…

    i hope it doesn’t take you as much failure or as much time.

    #625636

    In reply to: Public running track?

    elgrego
    Member

    I didn’t know about the Alki thing, but I’m not a fan of crowds, either. I’m timing myself for a military fitness test, and dodging dogs, strollers and couples walking hand in hand won’t give me a realistic time. I’m not a fan of boring tracks, but they’re kind of a necessary evil for me right now.

    I’ll keep Alki in mind for fun runs in the future, though I live at the ass end of West Seattle.

    #621315

    In reply to: Hot for Hillary

    Anonymous
    Inactive

    JoB, just one point, cuz I love huffpo for a lot of reasons, least of which is Arianna. I have been reading it since it’s inception. Arianna usually does one weekly commentary. Last week she praised Hillary. And her views on McCain are shared by several. 8 years ago when he was running against George, I liked what I knew of him too.

    The rest of the columnists are a wide and varied bunch. Last week Christine Gregoire posted a very nice tribute to our military. Obama and Clinton have both posted.

    I just wanted to tell you, several pieces have been posted that 100% agree with your assessment. In fact if I didn’t recognize the name and picture, I would think you wrote it:) Your perception after tracking a few of the links that have been posted here, are not accurate, other than to say it’s very liberal of course. They do not exclude any one who wants to support Hillary in word.

    The rest of the site are summaries of news articles with links to the original source for further reading. You will be sent everywhere from the WSJ to newsweek to a local TV station, even people magazine for cripes sake. And, it changes all day long.

    OK, end of commercial, just tired of the singular bashing of one site based on a small slice of the big picture.

    #621314

    In reply to: Hot for Hillary

    charlabob
    Participant

    “had John Edwards become our nominee.. i would have been disappointed….”

    I just read this and I am truly horrified. Any pretense at populism should be dismissed here. All that matters is that the president be a woman. Sad…really sad.

    #625655
    flowerpetal
    Member

    I guess any will is contestable; but I feel more confidant about my will not being questioned because it was written by a lawyer; and witnessed by individuals who do not know me (and have no interest).

    #621313

    In reply to: Hot for Hillary

    charlabob
    Participant

    <FROM BDG>

    Trick the problem is since I am not over 50, not “middle class” and college educated I dont know what is going on in the world and what is good for our country because obviously only those over fifty with their “voting experience” know what is best”

    <END BDG>

    So I guess that means Obama is best….I feel like Sojourner Truth here — Ain’t I a woman? :-) I am all of these and I am fed up with the idea that only a subset of us COUNT. There are a number of powerful women, including senators, congressmen, and governors, who support Obama. If you listen to the media, who love a good brawl, and to the Clintonistas, who, for reasons that elude me, love playing the victim card, you wouldn’t know we exist.

    I wouldn’t bother taalking about it on this blog, except, sadly, the dialog here echos what is taking place in the real world. I have been attacked physically and verbally by WOSA when I suggest that Hillary is not a damned victim. That she’s losing because she ran a crap campaign and thought it wouldn’t matter because she was entitled.

    IF ANY WHITE MAN RAN THE SAME CAMPAIGN HE WOULD HAVE BEEN GONE LONG AGO! If a black man or woman ran the same campaign he or she wouldn’t have made it to Iowa.

    Think back to the relief many people felt when SOMEONE beat Hillary in Iowa. We had been told, for more than a year, that she was inevitable. Some of us were less than delighted by that prospect.

    BTW, Clinton has announced her post-primary schedule; Obama has announced the beginning of the campaign against McCain. Whom do I respect? I’ll let you guess.

    #621312

    In reply to: Hot for Hillary

    walfredo
    Member

    Her reckless ambition, and absoulute devotion to herself over party and country are pretty compelling to me.

    That and her complete lack of ethics or character. Oh and her ability to tell bold faced lies without conflict. And her deep belief that the ends of her being in power always justify the means of her actions.

    I find her very admirable. Many of the traits of the great sociopaths of our time.

    #621311

    In reply to: Hot for Hillary

    Trick
    Participant

    Hillary claims she didn’t campaign in Florida either, however she did “visit” the weekend before the primary. *scratches chin*

    The guidelines in Michigan were pretty clear as Walfredo wrote. Yet she changed her message once she needed those delegates.

    Don’t you see a pattern here?

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