96 Replies to "UPDATE: Rescue response for crash on westbound West Seattle Bridge"

• TeamToyota April 1, 2025 (11:05 am)

  I hope they come out safely! I have hope in that Toyota 4Runners are one of the best and safest trucks out there-why I bought mine. I hope it saved their life! Sending good vibes and quick healing. 

• Flounder April 1, 2025 (11:06 am)

  Is this the corner (near what’s left of the children sculpture) where I’ve seen countless cars flipped off the side of the road? Why hasn’t this been remedied???

  • G frederiksen April 1, 2025 (12:11 pm)

    Drive slower !!!!!!!!

    • ITotallyAgreeWithYou April 1, 2025 (1:45 pm)

      Yeah, those 80yo lead foots are terrorizing our roads 🙄

      • CAM April 1, 2025 (5:32 pm)

        Well the 80 something year old that crashed his pickup truck into me because he confused his gas and break pedal and put me in PT for months probably should have been going slower. 

      • Nolan April 1, 2025 (11:15 pm)

        How fit do you think a driver needs to be to press their gas pedal?

  • 22blades April 2, 2025 (5:43 am)

    Drive slower & know when to quit driving. Just had my car totaled by an 84 year old driver. He took out 4 cars & sent 2 people to the hospital.. He narrowly missed a woman walking her dog. He claimed to the police he didn’t remember a thing. (Burien)

• Obligatory it’s the roads fault comment April 1, 2025 (11:07 am)

  1. Let’s use critical thinking skills and see what’s the common factor… is it the rain that makes roads slicker, which drivers who should be going the speed limit in normal conditions should use even more caution by going below that?

  • No let’s maintain the same speed limit or higher and hydroplane. But it’s ok because the other garbage drivers in the community will support me. Thousands of people use that same section in the same conditions. 

  • CarDriver April 1, 2025 (11:47 am)

    Do you work for SDOT? Letting them off the hook for poor pavement conditions is a dream come true for them. You can’t change reality and indeed the fact that they only repaved half the curve is reality.

  • WSzombie April 1, 2025 (1:00 pm)

    @obligatory This is a serious question: what vehicle do you drive? I’m honestly curious. Because if you think this is purely a speed issue, i can probably guess the attributes of your car, assuming you even have one and don’t bike or use public transit. I’ve offered this before and will keep offering to anybody truly interested. I will show you, in a safe manner, how speed is not the primary factor in these accidents. I will even let you drive if you’d like. I’m more than happy to spend some time showing the problem here. 

    • Jethro Marx April 1, 2025 (3:14 pm)

      This is extremely wrong.  I’m sure you’ve got a complex theory involving bumps, pavement surfacing, and some sciency-sounding stuff but it’s not enough. 

      The reason the primary cause of many of these crashes is speed is that in no single vehicle incident in this loose-knit grouping can you say that lowering speed would not have prevented it.  Tires, vehicle type, rain, low skill, yada yada, there are surely many contributing factors.  Speed is the primary factor because in every case, lowering the speed prevents the accident.  And I don’t mean lowering it to zero or some zaniness.  Show me one where they were going 25 or less. 

      The uncomfortable truth is, about half of us should not be allowed to drive due to poor ability/skill/judgement.  We are not serious about taking road safety seriously.

      • JB April 1, 2025 (4:08 pm)

        Each of these accidents comes with a tax burden on the community ( police, fire, ambulance, etc.).  As a community, what can we control?  A driver’s speed?  Nope.  A car’s maintenance?  Nope.  The pavement?  Yep. So how about we do something within our control and stop throwing our hands up.

      • Yeah Slow Down But... April 1, 2025 (4:51 pm)

        If we can get the city to close that stretch of road for a few hours on a rainy day, I’m happy to take you in two of my vehicles I can break loose at 25mph or less and a third that I can take it well above the posted 30 without losing traction.Too fast for conditions is a catch all that yes, it always is speed, if you slow to a crawl near zero chance of crashing.  But is that realistic in city traffic?

        • Jethro Marx April 1, 2025 (6:45 pm)

          I think this exercise sounds fun and is the kind of actual testing that should be included in driver licensing. But also you are describing the difference between anecdotal and empirical evidence. When you see a yellow 30mph advisory sign it is probably telling you that the turn can be safely taken at that speed in dry conditions for the average passenger vehicle. If it’s wet, or you’re driving a box truck or other particular situation, it’s on you to adjust your driving. They don’t assign advisory speeds arbitrarily, even if it feels that way. All this talk is silly because most of us drive in the 35-45mph range through this curve, and there’s plenty of traffic doing 50+ on the bridge without crashing. We can’t increase requirements for licensing because everyone hates that, it’s seen as both an equity issue and infringement on rights/privileges.

        • rpo April 2, 2025 (10:43 am)

          It is if the conditions warrant it.

    • Obligatory April 1, 2025 (3:29 pm)

      I drive a Fwd 2000s vehicle. I do occasionally take public transport. I don’t know how that disqualifies my opinion but please tell me your assumptions on my vehicle and driving habits. My point still stands. Countless amount of people drive that same spot daily. Most of us don’t get into avoidable collisions. I hope the driver who is described as elderly will recover. 

    • CarDriver April 1, 2025 (4:50 pm)

      WWZombie. Thanks for the offer. Unfortunately the keyboard perfect drivers aren’t interested in any scenario that deviates from their false narrative on this curve.

      • CAM April 1, 2025 (5:36 pm)

        The only people claiming that people aren’t at fault here are the people blaming the pavement. No commenter has claimed to be a perfect driver, but those who claim these accidents don’t involve any driver error get a lot closer to that. 

    • Dryvswet April 2, 2025 (9:43 am)

      You should drive that stretch going the speed limit on clear days and rainy days. Record it and post the video online so the issue will be settled for once. 

• Dan April 1, 2025 (11:08 am)

  View from footbridge at 11:05 am. 

• dzag April 1, 2025 (11:12 am)

  Is there any way that City Council or our representative Rob Saka can bring this to the city’s attention and respectfully request that they look into this and solve the problem.  It just appears that there are way too many accidents for this to be another coincidence.     Every time there is a wreck here, it takes so many resources to assist during these accidents that could be utilized to help others.        

  • WSB April 1, 2025 (11:41 am)

    “The city” aka SDOT is well aware, as we have reported multiple times. As for whether CM Saka has advocated for action, I don’t know. Here’s just one of the stories we’ve done (we had a short followup too just days ago)

    https://westseattleblog.com/2025/02/followup-heres-what-sdot-plans-to-do-about-seemingly-crash-prone-stretch-toward-southwest-end-of-west-seattle-bridge/

    • dzag April 1, 2025 (3:40 pm)

      Thank you Tracy for your outstanding reporting and continuing to inform all of this issue, and other public safety issues that I believe  others would sweep this under the rug

  • Mellow Kitty April 1, 2025 (12:25 pm)

    Or people can drive safely at the speed limit and adjust accordingly for weather conditions, curves in the road, slippery conditions. It’s Seattle. It rains. You should be used to it by now and know how to drive in it. AND if everyone is aware of the danger of this curve, then y’all need to slow down. 

    • Boop April 1, 2025 (5:00 pm)

      How do you know they were speeding?

      • Josh April 2, 2025 (7:36 am)

        They dont know that but if you drive there its a pretty fair guess.  I go 5 over on that stretch of road and consistently have people whipping around me like im standing still.  I take the turn at 5 over (in FWD cars, I dont crash or have any loss of control because I dont speed around that curve in a RWD which appears to be the main cause of crashes there, RWD vehicles probably going too fast in the rain) even in the rain and never have any issue.Sure the city can babysit the scofflaws and tackify the surface there and it may cause most of the crashes to end but those same drivers will find some other place to lose control because the problem is not mainly the road surface, its people driving too fast and eventually having natural consequences for their actions.

• Cricket April 1, 2025 (11:15 am)

  The city should continue the grooved pavement up around this corner. Eventually add some type of inward sloping berm. Currently it slopes away.

• Curious George April 1, 2025 (11:18 am)

  Body on frame, high center of gravity, in the rain and I would guess speeding on the Darwin corner.

  • Marcus April 1, 2025 (12:42 pm)

    Appropriate name!  I would like to see the city diamond score the road, however there are many, many other hazards while driving and people need to stay alert….. Still great name, Darwin Corner.

  • Mark G April 1, 2025 (1:00 pm)

    It’s none of the above. The 4Runner is RWD w part time 4×4. The back tires kicked out on the driver. Body on frame and high center of gravity have less to do with it. 

  • Also John April 1, 2025 (1:24 pm)

    “Darwin corner”…..😄    I agree.

  • Thomas April 1, 2025 (3:12 pm)

    Exactly right!

• Ryan caple April 1, 2025 (11:18 am)

  Speed is the factor. Period. Slow down people. We all know this section of the west Seattle bridge is dicey. It’s not hard. 

  • Watertowerjim April 1, 2025 (12:40 pm)

    And everyone reads this blog?  My lord.  Fix it before someone dies.  

    • Ryan Caple April 1, 2025 (4:15 pm)

      Go the speed limit and no one dies. You don’t even have to read this blog. Common sense. Also, following the law is a wise thing to do too. 

  • Boop April 1, 2025 (5:02 pm)

    Did you have a radar gun on any of the vehicles in question?Do you have any factual information to support what you are saying?  We’d all like to see it.  

    • Hammer in Hand April 1, 2025 (6:20 pm)

          Before we spend 10’s of millions of dollars on pavement remedies that some will say will allow speeder to go faster, lets put a radar recording camera in that area, and hand out citations like bus zone lets prove the speed is a factor!!then those who argue that it is pavement related will say invasion of privacy.Cars will stop flipping!

    • Josh April 2, 2025 (7:40 am)

      Can you honestly say that you drive that stretch of road and you think it is unlikely that the people that crash there are speeding?  You kind of have a radar gun in your car, your speedometer, and if you drive like me (never more than 5 over) then you have factual data that many people tailgate you and then go flying by you.Now if noone ever passes you then you also have the factual information that you are speeding like a demon because I would say at least 1/4 if not significantly more than that seem to think the the speed limit on the Spokane street bridge and Lynette Williams memorial bridge prior to becoming Fauntleroy is 55+.

• Swervedriver April 1, 2025 (11:36 am)

  Grooved payment won’t stop people from speeding or driving too fast for the conditions.  
  The current slope is minimal for rain drainage.  
  Speed is the factor, as the hundreds of thousands of vehicles that successfully navigate the WSF prove.
  Please drive responsibly: for your vehicle, its tires and the conditions.  
  And please slow down in the rain.

• Flaunt-Leroy April 1, 2025 (11:37 am)

  I never thought much about this spot until I started following these incidents on here, now I’m super cautious on this corner. Until we arrive at a better solution, awareness is a good tool for this.

• Install a speed bump right before this spot April 1, 2025 (11:39 am)

  The people saying it’s dangerous will quickly stop. Even better install a speed trap at that curve. People speeding will get a ticket and the city gets revenue from a known area that drivers are not being cautious on. 

  • Jake April 1, 2025 (12:01 pm)

    Both are bad ideas and a major overreaction.

    • Mellow Kitty April 1, 2025 (12:38 pm)

      No. Both are good ideas that will produce results. Obviously people aren’t responsible enough to follow traffic laws. You are operating a ton of metal. A dangerous ton of metal. If y’all have to start paying fines, you’ll get the message that the roads do not belong to you and you alone. 

      • Alki resident April 1, 2025 (1:45 pm)

        You don’t put a speed bump on a freeway and expect that to go well. There are motorcyclists that could die going over that. Super irresponsible 

        • WS98 April 1, 2025 (3:46 pm)

          @Alki resident – The WS Bridge is not a freeway…I agree that a speed bump is not the solution.I hope the driver is going to be okay. 

        • AN April 1, 2025 (3:56 pm)

          Read it again. Speed TRAP (a police officer), not speed BUMP. 

        • josh April 2, 2025 (7:45 am)

          The problem is that people like you think its a freeway.  Its not.  That specific part of the road is labelled the “West Seattle Bridge” and the speed limit is 45 with a caution to go 30.  No freeway has the labels or limits.  Its an arterial.  Stop driving it like its a freeway.  I dont care if you were raised calling it a freeway, it hasnt been thought of as a freeway in 40 years and even then it wasnt a freeway, that was just a colloquialism.  

    • Hammer in Hand April 1, 2025 (6:22 pm)

        SPEEDER

  • Katrina April 1, 2025 (4:56 pm)

    Speed bump or speed trap? A speed bump would be dangerous. A speed trap would only be practical if it were a speed camera, and according what I read in the comments on the accident that happened on the bridge last week, speed cameras are only allowed in school zones

  • Boop April 1, 2025 (5:04 pm)

    Speed bump on a corner?  Ridiculous!  Listen to yourself.  I really mean that in the nicest way possible.  

• Watertowerjim April 1, 2025 (12:39 pm)

  Nothing to see here, just slow down.Until someone dies.Come on, people.  

  • JS in WS April 1, 2025 (1:48 pm)

    I find it very hard to believe that a woman in her early 80’s driving an SUV was speeding around this corner in wet conditions.  Just saying…

    • Brian April 1, 2025 (3:03 pm)

      I do not find it hard to believe an old person thought the law didn’t apply to them and are now dealing with the consequences of physics. Tale as old as time honestly. 

      • bill April 1, 2025 (7:12 pm)

        Brian: Precisely. I have such a neighbor. Doesn’t know how wide her car is. Will not back up. Have observed her make lefts without stopping, tight against the left corner of an intersection, unable to see oncoming cars. Don’t know her name, unsure how to alert the authorities to require a driving test.

    • Swervedriver April 1, 2025 (3:55 pm)

      Well in this case the results speak for themselves.

  • Bbron April 1, 2025 (2:19 pm)

    Plenty of fatal accidents, namely pedestrians navigating hostile infrastructure, have resulted in nothing changing. It’d be an insult to spend the resources and increase the maintenance burden of this road so that overconfident SUV and truck drivers can continue to speed in wet conditions. Why do we need the government to hand hold drivers that can’t be bothered to be aware of their surroundings and knowledgable about the vehicle they’re driving?

• Jeff F. April 1, 2025 (12:41 pm)

  Photo enforcement would solve this problem and pay for all the wasted resources spent responding to these easily preventable crashes. 

• Al King April 1, 2025 (12:54 pm)

  LOVE the “I’m a perfect driver that ALWAY’S follows E VERY traffic law to the letter comments. Seems you also are road condition/maintenance experts. Please tell us how you got to your lofty knowledge base.

  • Jort April 1, 2025 (11:34 pm)

    Maybe the drivers look at the yellow sign that says “30 MPH” just before the curve and take that caution under advisement and drive accordingly? I don’t think that’s really a “lofty knowledge base” but instead, you know, something people were instructed to do when they received a driving license. I also don’t think “reading the cautionary sign” necessarily makes people “experts” but, perhaps you have a different viewpoint. It doesn’t take a genius to follow the law! Folks should try it! It’s FUN!

• I can read April 1, 2025 (1:00 pm)

  So y’all think an 80 year old woman was speeding? Sheesh…..

  • Brian April 1, 2025 (3:02 pm)

    Absolutely? Lol why does her being old mean she wasn’t going too fast for the conditions? Try again. 

• Kenny Powers April 1, 2025 (1:05 pm)

  It’s a combo of smooth pavement, tire quality, speed. I learned my lesson both west Seattle bridge near Fauntleroy and Admiral curve down the hill…. Went sideways but fortunately pulled out of hit……Corrective action: Slow Down!

• CarDriver April 1, 2025 (1:07 pm)

  Woman in her early 80’s. Yep, fits the keyboard experts “only speeding causes accidents” scenario.

  • Brian April 1, 2025 (2:59 pm)

    Does being 80 preclude you from speeding? Don’t think so. 

• John April 1, 2025 (1:27 pm)

  Prior to the corner there’s a large yellow sign with black legible letters that reads  “30 MPH”.    How difficult is that to simply follow what it says?   Stop blaming the corners construction.

• Citizen Joe April 1, 2025 (1:37 pm)

  As much as I’m in the speeding is a factor camp, the difference in pavement and road texture is becoming a concern. SDOT needs to repave this road. The consequences afterwards to speeding idiots will be on their own heads.

• Julia April 1, 2025 (1:54 pm)

  I’ve lived here for decades and don’t remember that specific spot being such a problem. I’d be interested to know if the accident rate there has increased in recent years or if it’s just an impression based on the availability of hyper local reporting.

• Les April 1, 2025 (2:01 pm)

  I haven’t been keeping score what is the breakdown of types of vehicles that have crashed at that curve. ?Since the reopening of the bridge how many trucks,SUVs and cars have wrecked on that curve by type of vehicle? We’re all or most of the vehicles traveling in the left lane?

  • ITotallyAgreeWithYou April 1, 2025 (5:34 pm)

    Most of the incidents have not resulted in crashes or an emergency response and don’t get reported to officials. The data should include all slipping incidents regardless if it results in an accident. From my own experience, family members,  and what has been shared on the WSB, the vehicle type,  weight, tire conditions, speed of travel,  age of driver,  etc has been wide ranging. The common thread is wet pavement at that particular location. 

• wetone April 1, 2025 (2:25 pm)

  Hopefully driver recovery is quick and finds a good attorney to go after city. People keep saying speed speed speed is the issue, hey folks people speed everywhere  while not having the issues that this section of roadway has. This section of roadway is bad, resulting in having more incidents than any other section of roadway in King County. Elevation changes, multiple types of concrete surfaces, very worn original surface exposing large rocks with polished surfaces having bad traction issues when dry and ice like when wet. You also get oils running down the roadway from uphill (stop lights) adding to the already poor surface when raining. SDOT priorities seem to be a little screwed up;)

  • Swervedriver April 1, 2025 (4:24 pm)

    Clever employment of the old NRA argument, but in reverse. 
    Speed and driver errors don’t cause accidents,
    SDOT roads do.

    Although I might not trust riding that curve, Joe Biden at the wheel, top-down in the rain, muscling  his vintage red  Corvette (without a roll bar).
    Driving under the conditions is  something that the  law requires  and drivers’ manual instructs.
    Judging from the photo and descriptions, it appears that SUV had considerable speed before departing her lane, enough to loose control, cross the pullout lane, crash over a curb, cross a sidewalk only to finally be stopped by a light pole, somewhere in there spinning out rolling over.
    If the road was the cause there would be hundreds of thousands of accidents. 
    I have never seen anyone release any after crash data regarding the speed they were driving. 
    But once fessing up to my own one car accident, I can only imagine trying to explain to insurance and police these incidents. 

  • bill April 1, 2025 (7:16 pm)

    Good attorneys will say, “sovereign immunity,” and tell the bad driver to get lost.

  • Jort April 1, 2025 (11:36 pm)

    “I will sue the city until they change the road so that I can speed without crashing!” Sounds like an awesome lawsuit! Good luck with that one!

• Sillygoose April 1, 2025 (3:03 pm)

  Put a camera up there with a speed recorder this will tell the truth of the issue, which I 100% believe is speed.  Slow down people drive the speed limit we all catch up to you at the light!!!

• Joe April 1, 2025 (3:31 pm)

  In my opinion speed is probably the number one issue on the WSB. I think other people have  also mentioned worn/defective tires. I believe another common factor in the last couple of accidents were older body on frame suv/trucks that might have been built prior to mandatory electronic stability control. I last crossed the bridge on Sunday when it was dry. Everyone was going with traffic at about 40-45. There was 1 idiot in brand new white Nissan Z passing in all 3 lanes. He prob took the corner at 65-70 and he was fine. Idiots will be idiots. Maybe flashing orange arrows would help warn of the corner but people are going to speed. 

• Barb April 1, 2025 (3:35 pm)

  I stopped using this route because of all the speeding drivers too impatient to slow down.  Got tired (and fearful) of having them ride my bumper and almost rear-end me because  I was following the speed limit. And a person who’s always had a lead foot doesn’t slow down just because they turned 80!

• Natty RAD! April 1, 2025 (3:42 pm)

  WSB you guys should create a table or some other visual graphic to attach to each one of these posts so we can keep a tally of how many crashes occur at this location. I feel like this past month alone there’s been a weekly occurrence. It may sound insensitive to reduce a victim to a number or a statistic but maybe it would be helpful in trying to get SDOT or the city council’s attention. Just my 0.2 cents. 

  • My two cents April 1, 2025 (5:18 pm)

    Compared to what? Creating a valid statistical sample in comparison to other locations would be difficult to discern outliers.  Case in point; west seattle bridge carries 100,000 travelers per day (seattle.gov) … we can be generous and state that 1 car flip occurs per day. That would work out to be 0.00001 rate. 

    • B April 1, 2025 (9:12 pm)

      Number of accidents per year at this location pre-“improvement” versus post-“improvement” of the roadway would be a good comparison.  It seems like the number of accidents at this location has skyrocketed since the roadway was modified a few years ago, and I find it hard to believe that people suddenly started driving like maniacs at the same time the roadway was changed.  I’ll bet anyone on here a dollar that if the pavement were properly repaired so that the grooved pavement continued all the way through the curve, and if those dips towards the end of the curve went away, then the accident rate would return to pre-“improvement” levels. Easy money!

      • Nolan April 1, 2025 (11:17 pm)

        > I find it hard to believe that people suddenly started driving like maniacs at the same time the roadway was changed.

        There actually is a solid case for this being true: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/11/20/what-the-data-says-about-dangerous-driving-and-road-rage-in-the-us/

        • Neighbor April 2, 2025 (7:02 am)

          That’s really interesting, Nolan. Thanks for posting.

      • Jort April 1, 2025 (11:38 pm)

        Actually, drivers have become much more dangerous since COVID, and you can take a look at your insurance rates if you don’t believe me. 

        • ltmmgm April 2, 2025 (6:20 am)

          I must agree  with Jort on this comment (since COVID) Everything went out the door when the pandemic hit, not just bad driving, everything.

        • k April 2, 2025 (7:10 am)

          Insurance rates include statistics like car thefts and police response times, which have also changed a lot since COVID.

• Peterman April 1, 2025 (4:04 pm)

  The legal speed limit is 45 mph on the bridge, and 30 mph as you approach the signal at Fauntleroy.  The advised speed shown on the yellow sign before the curve is 30 mph, I think. A couple decades ago I took a CIVE transportation class at UW. I recall speed limits being determined primarily by the geometry of horizontal and vertical curves, shoulder space, pavement condition, adjoining roadways, etc.  I also recall that most freeways were designed for speeds higher than the current limit.  By definition, I consider the West Seattle bridge a freeway since access is limited to only on- and off-ramps (note: freeways can be bridges too).  This has me wondering what the original design speed for the uphill curve would pencil out to.  My guess is it’s higher than the speed all these trucks or rear-wheel drive car are sliding out at, which makes me think SDOT inadvertently created a booby trap.  For the record, I drive a truck and have almost spun out there, but I’ve also learned to slow down to about 30 or 35.  The problem is,  it’s a freeway setting with a perceptibly gradual curve (as opposed to the off-ramp to NB 99) so people unfamiliar may unfortunately dismiss the advised speed.   My recommendation, add flashing lights to the advise speed sign to give it a “!” and fix the pavement.

  • bill April 1, 2025 (7:23 pm)

    The bridge & viaduct used to be called the West Seattle Freeway. The state legislature renamed it to West Seattle Bridge in the hope not calling it a freeway would temper speeding. (And if you use Google Maps the voice directions render “West Seattle Br” as “West Seattle Branch.”)

    • Yeah Slow Down But... April 1, 2025 (9:58 pm)

      Oh man I remember when it was the West Seattle Freeway.  That’s still what I call it.  To me the bridge is the big hump we were afraid was going to fall down but all of it from I5 to the stop light at 35th & Fauntleroy is the West Seattle Freeway.I also remember before the flat part had a divider, and you’d always get some overly optimistic person trying to turn left from eastbound across to get the 4th Ave exit and cause a head on collision.  Felt like in the late 90’s early 00’s that was a weekly occurrence.  Crap I’m old.  Get off my lawn!

• Curtis April 1, 2025 (4:14 pm)

  SDOT uses safety as a justification for every road diet they can, yet here we have a patch of irregular pavement causing countless serious accidents, and they remain blissfully uninterested in a remedy.  The negligence is astonishing.

  • Jort April 1, 2025 (11:40 pm)

    When SDOT refers to “safety” for road diets, they often mean, “redesigning the road to reduce deaths and serious injuries,” becaues human beings are killed on those roads. Here we have people habitually speeding, wrecking their own vehicles and then demanding that SDOT reconfigure the road so that they can break the law without consequences. Guess what?! That’s not safety! 

• Gay April 1, 2025 (6:25 pm)

  Please be aware that many drivers suffer from acute neuropathy and serioulsy numb feet.  Feeling the break and gas pedal becomes challenging and dangerous.Please slow down and stop tailgaiting. 

  • K April 1, 2025 (8:02 pm)

    This happened to my spouse. People experiencing this absolutely need to stop driving. 

  • Brian April 2, 2025 (9:18 am)

    People with acute neuropathy and seriously numb feet need to be aware that they should not be operating a motor vehicle if they can’t feel the brake and gas pedal. What the actual heck.

• Watertowerjim April 2, 2025 (6:01 am)

  The “just slow down” crowd is oddly dug in.  Not sure why.  I’ve lived in WS for three decades and that corner was never this big of an issue.  Something changed.  Fix it.Uncontrolled intersections “should” work too – but some don’t – and stop signs are often installed Let’s not wait for a death before fixing this  just because people insist on being stubborn.

  • Bbron April 2, 2025 (2:43 pm)

    How did people safely navigate this curve before there was any grooved pavement?

    • bolo April 2, 2025 (9:47 pm)

      And before regular non-grooved pavement, there was dirt (soil) roadway, muddy when wet. How did they safely navigate that???

• Santiagou April 2, 2025 (10:08 am)

  They should fix the road so speeding cars can crash into the traffic waiting at the 35th traffic light. Then we can blame the traffic light for the accidents. 

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