SCHOOL CLOSURES? Board members’ harsh words for ‘shell’ plan, and process

(District video of Wednesday night’s board meeting)

By Tracy Record
West Seattle Blog editor

Seattle Public Schools Board directors stopped short of telling Superintendent Dr. Brent Jones to throw out the two closure-plan options he unveiled last week and start over – but at times during their meeting tonight, that seemed like a possibility.

West Seattle/South Park director Gina Topp even tried to propose a resolution asking him to promptly draw up a third option that would close only a handful of schools, but she was ultimately dissuaded, with questions about whether that was appropriate without advance public notice.

The board’s mostly critical words about the “Well-Resourced Schools” plan, meant to shrink the SPS system in hopes of covering up to a third of a nearly $100 million budget gap, followed a presentation by district executives, primarily Dr. Jones and Dr. Marni Campbell, who’s in charge of the plan. (Here’s the slide deck, which also attempted to address some of the concerns/questions they said they’d been receiving.)

The most common concerns were that the plan so far didn’t show a clear path to improved student outcomes – something that is supposed to be driving everything the board does – and isn’t backed up by all the details families need to know about exactly how their children’s educational needs will be met if their school closes or is affected by closures,
Campbell said teams would be formed to plan a “caring transition” for students displaced by closures.

Board director Brandon Hersey insisted, “It has to all come back to the goals.”

The “goals” seemed rooted in numbers as much as anything, based on Campbell’s example of how they arrived at one scenario for this area: The Southwest region is projected to have about 4,500 students, and that means it needs 10 (elementary/K-8) schools instead of 13, Sanislo Elementary, while beloved as Campbell acknowledged, not only wasn’t big enough to be one of those 10 schools, it also was in fairly bad shape. “It’s not so much about wanting to close (a certain school), but, which 10 schoools would better serve the comunity?”

Director Michelle Sarju then offered a concern that other directors shared: How are they possibly going to work through this in just three months, and vote by year’s end? This challenge had been rolling down the track for a long time, as Dr. Jones’ presentation of specific closure proposals was originally expected months ago. She stated flatly that she isn’t sure they can “get this done” in the compressed time frame.

Director Joe Mizrahi pointed out one major missing detail – what would the policy be for kids who want to be allowed to stay at their current school, if it stays open but their attendance-area assignment changes? (Hersey suggested they look at how it’s been done in other districts that have gone through closures.)

That’s when Topp tried to make her motion, observing that so far, “we have to bring community with us, and I don’t think we’ve brought community with us.” She wanted to suggest that the superintendent come up with an Option C closing “four to six schools.” The discussion that ensued over the proper way to bring up a motion at one point suggested a special meeting might be needed; some tension flashed between Topp and board president Liza Rankin over whether Topp would have to find a way to bring forth a proposal whether Rankin would let her or not. (The president insisted she wouldn’t stop Topp from making a motion, though at this meeting, ultimately none was made.)

Director Evan Briggs declared the superintendent’s proposal a “shell … a skeleton” and said some of its explanations seemed like empty “words on a page.”

President Rankin then voiced sharp concerns of her own, declaring the proposals “sheer disruption” for families. In the original timeline, they would have had summer workshops and other additional opportunities to work with community members on planning, but now, “five community meetings are not enough.” And she said the “academic team” should have been at the table, not just the district’s top administrators. Rankin too said she didn’t believe they could work out all the details suitably by December.

Campbell tried to point to some of the data that had been asked about, and said other information would be available next month. Jones then tried to be pragmatic, warning that the work would “take time … if we’re not there yet, we’re not there yet … we’ve done a lot of work, but if we need to do more work …”

Mizrahi echoed Topp’s call for a scaled-down proposal, but again, no motion was brought forward. And Sarju voiced concern that “we’re leaving here without an answer for families,” repeating the time-frame concern, “Here we are trying to crunch into three months what we had nine months to do … this has been an anxiety-producing exercise.”

Briggs then suggested they should “be free to go home now and leave it to staff to figure out what to do next.” Ostensibly that’ll happen before the board’s next meeting, October 9. In the meantime, Topp’s next community conversation and the West Seattle regional community meeting on the closure proposals are both scheduled for one week from tonight – she’ll be at the Admiral (West Seattle) Library, 2306 42nd SW, 5-6 pm September 25, and then the district meeting is at 6:30 pm at Genesee Hill Elementary (5013 SW Dakota).

23 Replies to "SCHOOL CLOSURES? Board members' harsh words for 'shell' plan, and process"

  • Admiral Mom September 19, 2024 (1:55 am)

    Thank you Evan Briggs for being completely honest. School board members have been very clear on their expectations and their concerns of a so called plan lacking deep research, understanding and real answers for community. Absolutely – people that are actually paid to do and execute this plan need to be held accountable (looking at the people at the table, Jones, Podesta, Redmond and Campbell cost us taxpayers close to 1.2 million dollars a year in salaries). Do the job you are paid to do.

  • Teacher and Parent September 19, 2024 (6:06 am)

    I’m proud of the board’s response. This is the first moment since the announcement that I feel like families and schools are being genuinely considered and not just strung along. 👏 Good work, Gina Topp! 👏

    • STEM September 19, 2024 (3:51 pm)

      Yes, thank you Gina. I hope you’re able to give families more Plan C information on Sept 25th. It’s quite the mystery. 

  • G September 19, 2024 (9:20 am)

    Sarju stated that they were left with three months to cram and complete what they originally had nine months to do. What were they doing during those six months? This is not acceptable. 

  • Kyle September 19, 2024 (9:20 am)

    Thank you WSB for the notes. I agree a scaled down option C which Topp proposed sounds the most reasonable. There may be a few consolidations needed, but such drastic consolidations are short sighted. The district should look at their bloated transportation contract first. I lol’d at the bureaucracy road blocks Rankin was throwing up to even put out a motion for a different option. Let’s focus on getting to the best proposal and having the district give transparency on it’s finances. The procedures of who out ranks who is not helpful.

    • Admiral Mom September 19, 2024 (10:06 am)

      Bureaucracy road blocks? There’s a reason why meetings are subject to rules or it would be a bigger mess than what we have. I thank Gina for being thoughtful but reality is closing a handful of schools will not get SPS to their goal to reduce the deficit by 30%. And if MY school is one of those 6 chosen handful, I will come ask everyone why my school and not yours? We all think our school is the best. I rather support a plan that brings better outcomes for all students, not only mine. 

    • AF September 19, 2024 (11:41 am)

      I agree with Ms Topp’s plan as well. They always have options to close more schools in the future. A smaller scale closure can yield a lot of helpful data. That data could be studied and can bring to light unforeseen circumstances that will certainly come up with the closures. The giant plan they have now is extremely disruptive and clearly not well thought out when it comes to transitioning and the specifics on how it will actually lead to better outcomes for the kids. Well resourced schools seems to have a lot of political popular buzz words without any specifics as to what is going to change in the day to day operations and daily school day. 

      • Admiral Mom September 19, 2024 (3:35 pm)

        What do you suggest to close the rest of the third of the budget deficit? 

        • AF September 19, 2024 (5:10 pm)

          Not sure. I work in healthcare. You have any suggestions?

        • Orb September 20, 2024 (8:31 am)

          If they were more transparent with the budget and numbers, I am sure many citizens could lend advice. We have some of the smartest folks in the nation living here. A few financial consultants could probably be a big help. I don’t think the current employees have much experience with this big of a budget.

  • Judy Pickens September 19, 2024 (9:30 am)

    If chiseling away at the district’s mammoth deficit is the dominate reason for closures, we need to see just how the district believes each of the two options would do that.  Has staff detailed the numbers, taking into full account all the costs associated with closures, both immediate and over time?  Add this essential detail to the work plan and I can’t see how anyone – board members, parents, advocates – could possibly be ready for an informed vote in December. 

    • Frog September 19, 2024 (2:04 pm)

      Eliminating option schools and having fewer, larger elementary schools have both been longer-term goals of senior SPS staff and certain longer-serving school board members independent of budget considerations.  They have wanted to do both of these things for years.  (It explains why Alki ES is being rebuilt much larger than the school that was torn down. Another example:  it’s been an open secret for a few years that wait-lists were not being moved at option schools to reduce enrollment and soften them up for the kill.)  Attaching these changes to the current budget problem is partly an example of making good use of a crisis.  They wanted to do it anyway, and the budget deficit provides a sense of urgency.  That would explain why their cost savings numbers seem a bit perfunctory and lacking in conviction.  It doesn’t matter to TPTB if the cost savings are real or not.

  • WSB September 19, 2024 (9:49 am)

    One note: If the direct link to the slide deck doesn’t work – go to item VIII on last night’s agenda https://www.seattleschools.org/board-meetings/september-18-2024-regular-board-meeting/ and click “presentation.”

  • Earlylearningissues September 19, 2024 (10:52 am)

    Thank you WSB for your always amazing coverage and for this video. I’ll admit this is the first time I have ever watched a school board meeting. I have a perhaps stupid question that maybe someone in this forum can answer. I am fully aware of the absurd cost of childcare and early learning as I remember the bills being like double my monthly mortgage payment not too long ago. Its a nation wide problem and the current models are not sustainable everywhere but…..why doesn’t this fall under the umbrella of SPS? They can’t even figure out how to budget for K-5 and figure out how to have AP courses available to students in high school. Why are they dedicating resources and even expanding preschool programs? I feel like WA state should allocate this to Seattle parks and rec and other institutions that are not SPS until they can better stabilize K-12.

    • Admiral Mom September 19, 2024 (12:16 pm)

      Preschools and PreK would not be expanded by SPS. They are talking about partners including city of seattle using classroom space at remaining schools. 

  • JT September 19, 2024 (12:07 pm)

    at least one of the directors make it seem like schools have to be closed but they already showed us an alternative at the Aug 28 meeting. why aren’t they considering at least some of the plan that doesn’t involve closures?  i can’t find slides so i took a screenshot of youtube video on aug 28

    • Ok September 19, 2024 (2:19 pm)

      It’s not one or the other.  School closures account for a third of the budget shortfall.  The need all of the above and more. 

    • Northeast Admiral September 19, 2024 (3:02 pm)

      Where is the line item for cutting Administrative roles by 30%? That will get us the whole way there.

    • Derrick September 20, 2024 (9:10 am)

      Increase class sizes to THIRTY FOUR to one?? What kind of madness… If you make the quality of the education product so crummy that more people leave the district, that will only hurt the budget with even more reduced funding. 

      • Elton September 24, 2024 (9:02 am)

        It is a bit of a doom spiral. The budget cuts already steered us into private schools.

  • bolo September 19, 2024 (11:48 pm)

    Nearly $100 million budget gap, how did we get here?

    I remember hearing charter schools can divert funds from public school districts. Is that causing some of the budget shortfall here?

    • N September 20, 2024 (6:05 pm)

      I don’t know the answer with certainty, but districts across the country are facing tough choices because they opted to use temporary covid funds to expand permanent staffing roles and that funding has now ended.  That plus the big drop in enrollment as parents have desperately sought out solutions to get their kids up to grade level post covid may be the drivers.  

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