FOLLOWUP: Jury acquits defendant in deadly SODO shooting of West Seattle man

We’re continuing to go through court files of cases we hadn’t checked in a while, and found another one has been resolved – the shooting death of a West Seattle man near the SODO Costco store in July 2022.

68-year-old Bob Jensen, described by friends as a longtime West Seattleite, was shot and killed after getting out of his vehicle on 4th Avenue South to confront a driver who reportedly refused to let him merge at a spot where two lanes narrowed to one. Police said the man who shot him, then-38-year-old Angel A. Valderrama of Kirkland, told police he shot Mr. Jensen because he was holding something that might have been a weapon. None was found on Mr. Jensen’s person or in his pickup. Valderrama was not arrested at the time but was charged with second-degree murder a month later. Court documents show that Valderrama was found not guilty by a King County Superior Court jury last month, after a trial that lasted less than two weeks. Jurors had the option to convict him of manslaughter but found him not guilty of that too; the trial minutes show they deliberated for a day and a half. Jurors also had to decide an extra issue, whether the defendant proved that the use of force was lawful; a “yes” verdict would have entitled him to compensation for lost wages while jailed. The jury’s decision was “no.”

Rhonda December 31, 2023 (12:19 am)

NEVER get out of your vehicle to angrily confront another driver. The outcomes are tragic at the most and risky at the least.

valvashon December 31, 2023 (12:37 am)

Absolutely insane that he was found not guilty. Guns are in charge these days. The only way we will get our lives back is to nationalize weapons and ammunition production and sell only to licensed law enforcement agencies. We then need to buy back the guns currenty in circulation at fair market value or confiscate those that owners refuse to turn it. After that we melt them down (all of the gun, not just the part with the serial number) or fill the barrel and firing mechanism with epoxy for those who feel the need to display a weapon of some sort on the mantle or whatever. Long rifles or shotguns for hunting? Locked in a nearby government storage facility to be checked out when it’s hunting time and returned after the season is over. But what about the Second Amendment you say? Educate yourself on this, it’s a holdover from the times of slavery. The “well regulated militia” that it speaks of is code for the Southern “slave patrols” that used to go out and round up slaves (and free people of color) and return them to their owners. If we are upset about the racist sports team names that are a part of the dark past of this country, we also need to get upset about the racist roots of the Second Amendment and act accordingly.

WSderp December 31, 2023 (3:19 am)

@valvashon Are you off your meds? You sound like someone who rages at people for no reason. Why is it insane that the victim of road rage aggression, by a jury of YOUR peers, was determined to have legally defended himself and thus found not guilty? Did you analyze every minute detail of the trial? I doubt it. I think you need to assess the true source of your anger, because it’s not with this case. With that said, I’m impressed by how your unhinged tirade was able to connect road rage>guns>slavery. It’s quite the reach.
PizzaMonster December 31, 2023 (3:29 am)

First off, my condolences to Mr. Jensen’s family and friends. Secondly, and I should preface this by stating I don’t own a firearm, nor do I ever intend to, but I strongly believe responsible gun owners have the right to bear arms to protect themselves, their families and their personal property. If what you typed out is genuine and not an attempt at trolling, this might be the wildest comment I’ve ever read on the WSB. There’s no simple solution to preventing gun violence, but thinking you can just shove the toothpaste back into the tube is a crazy notion. Do you have any idea how many unregistered/unlicensed firearms are in circulation?
John December 31, 2023 (6:58 am)

You must not have taken history class specifically regarding the American revolution. A well regulated militia was what every town had in place to protect against lawlessness and defend against British royalist attacks duh. Not everything is about race or gender.
Will December 31, 2023 (7:34 am)

None of what you said is accurate (Post-Reconstruction gun control laws specifically restricted freed slaves, Catholics, and other “undesirables,”). The Second Amendment guarantees “the right of the people,” specifically after the Revolutionary War (which was fought by private citizens against the largest standing army in the history of the world). Your plan is to start a civil war where millions of people would surely perish. Get a grip. The majority of gun owners (especially concealed permit holders) are safe. Were that not the case, you would know about it. If you don’t like having these rights, there are thousands of countries without them. The rest of us plan on keeping them.
Mike December 31, 2023 (7:37 am)

“The only way we will get our lives back is to nationalize weapons and ammunition production and sell only to licensed law enforcement agencies”Hitler and Stalin approve of your message
Rusty December 31, 2023 (7:41 am)

Stop saying “educate yourself” and people will listen to you more.
RickB December 31, 2023 (7:46 am)

+1. Repeal 2A.
- Seattlite December 31, 2023 (9:05 am)
  
  Why do you want to take away the right of ALL America’s legal gun owners? The purpose of the Second Amendment is the natural right of ALL American citizens to defend themselves, their families, their properties. Who will defend Americans against adversaries if they cannot defend themselves?
  - How’s it going so far? December 31, 2023 (11:19 am)
    
    Are you happy with the gun crime the mass shootings? If you have a gun in your house you are more likely to be shot. Funny that.
  - JSS December 31, 2023 (11:21 am)
    
    lol. All the crazed gun nuts are here, I see. It’’s all about your 2nd Amendment. Who cares who gets killed and who killer is? Lord help us.
  - Zark00 January 1, 2024 (12:49 pm)
    
    Lol, you think the 2nd amendment represents a NATURAL right? Why are gun nuts always the most ignorant about rights, it’s like you try, really hard to just get most everything you “know” about your own rights completely wrong. You should be embarrassed to be as fundamentally wrong as you consistently are.
- 937 December 31, 2023 (11:18 am)
  
  Nope. Not EVER gonna happen.
Tony December 31, 2023 (8:07 am)

All that believing that criminals will comply.There are millions of lawful firearm owners that grows everyday. Your solution is to punish law abiding citizens? Makes sense.
Alki resident December 31, 2023 (8:23 am)

Speaking of educating yourself on this. Go ahead and turn in your guns, the rest of us will be keeping them. The government works for us, not the opposite. There are millions of law abiding gun owners with multiple guns in their possession. You’re not going to decide whether we keep them or not because of a shooting in your area.
D December 31, 2023 (8:27 am)

Wow…The genesis of the Second Amendment was NOT “slave patrols”. Please stop relying on Wikipedia which cites a discredited theory by a single activist, revisionist “professor”.That aside. If you want to act accordingly, then the Constitution provides a process to “amend” it. The Founders made that process difficult so that people’s RIGHTS can’t be easily taken away based upon feelings and the what ever the winds of popular outrage is today.
WS Guy December 31, 2023 (9:47 am)

Nice. When you say “we” need to buy back guns, is that with your money? Or do you plan on taking it from “the rich” or “greedy corporations”? Will you be joining the confiscation squads, kicking in doors and searching homes? Or do you plan on manipulating men into that role? How do you imagine wielding so much power over your fellow citizens while moralizing about slavery?
937 December 31, 2023 (11:15 am)

Nope.
GG January 1, 2024 (8:22 am)

Let it be so.
Hey Johnny January 3, 2024 (12:55 am)

wasted energy because as much as we might not like it, guns are a constitutional right.

Probably just in need of more coffee December 31, 2023 (5:19 am)

I agree that it’s incomprehensible that a jury found him not guilty. I cannot imagine how that happened. I also agree that no matter how angry you are don’t get out of your car to confront another driver in a road range incident. I hate to have to say it but “suck it up” is necessary these days. Impulse control is in short supply and guns aren’t.But Valvashon, you surely haven’t thought through the implications of confiscating all the weapons. It’s not even a matter of a phalanx of armed police officers going door to door to every single house in America, kicking in doors when necessary, handcuffing and frisking every single resident and then searching every single square inch of houses and outbuildings, tearing up floorboards and walls and ceilings and blowing open locked gun safes. No, it would in some cases involve surrounding houses with tanks and avoiding mines and IEDs. One might fantasize about confiscating all guns but have you thought through the implementation? Do you personally actually know gun owners who vow to never give up their guns? I’m hoping your post is despairing satire. Please tell me it is.

Josh December 31, 2023 (11:26 am)

The law is pretty clear. If the accused did not instigate the conflict, which he didn’t as the man who exited his car did then he has a right to defend himself with a reasonable use of force. As long as the defense presented an effective argument that the defendant did have reason to think the man who was attacking him did have a weapon on him there is no way a jury can find the defendant guilty even for manslaughter. This is how the law works. Sometimes tragic things happen but in the end no need for an application of justice involving the state.

waikikigirl December 31, 2023 (7:10 am)

This just makes me so sad and sick to my stomach to hear that Angel Valderrama was acquitted of murdering Bob. Bob was a neighborhood friend to my husband, my Mom in Law still lives in the neighborhood and so did Bob’s up until a few years ago when she passed. We’d be there seeing mom and there was Bob checking in, doing something for his mom, groceries, yard work… he helped everyone, he was helping (our) Mom as a matter of fact with an odd job when he was killed.My attached article has a picture of Bob and an interview with the acquitted’s ex-wife. Prosecutors failed badly in their jobs this time, this guy was known to police for having guns and having a violent personality with the guns, again Prosecutors failed badly!dori-ex-wife-of-road-rage-shooter-not-surprised-calls-man-killed-her-hero

Kalaloch101 December 31, 2023 (7:46 am)

Any other place in the world, and we wouldn’t be reading this. People jump out of their cars and yell at each other all the time. Then they get back in their cars and drive away. In the USA? Getting out of your car and yelling could mean (apparently justifiably) getting shot and killed. Now, THAT is American Exceptionalism in a nutshell.

Mike December 31, 2023 (9:37 am)

I don’t know if you’ve ever been outside of the USA, but we’re not the only country where crazy happens with driving. https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2015/09/why-drivers-in-china-intentionally-kill-the-pedestrians-they-hit-chinas-laws-have-encouraged-the-hit-to-kill-phenomenon.html or https://www.statista.com/statistics/1006796/number-carjackings-south-africa/ or the rise in road rage stabbings in the UK https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-62577522
WW Resident December 31, 2023 (9:37 am)

A perfect example of “well if I don’t hear about it, it doesn’t happen anywhere else ” Yes it does. It happens with guns, axes, machetes, etc.
- Rick December 31, 2023 (11:01 am)
  
  I like the spot currently running on tv where the detective says it’s the first case he’s heard of someone killing someone else with a piece of cheesecake. Didn’t see the details but I guess anything is possible.

Jethro Marx December 31, 2023 (8:49 am)

Describing what happened as the victim “angrily” confronting the shooter are not accurate. This is a bad shooting and the shooter is a coward and liar who gives all gun owners a bad name.

waikikigirl December 31, 2023 (10:54 am)

I agree Bob did not confront the shooter angrily, there is security footage that proves this. Bob was not an angry person and he is the only one that knows his reasonings of getting out of his truck. If you do an internet search of the shooters name you will see he had numerous episodes with the police being called concerning his guns but this is too late now for the jurors. Again the prosecutors failed.And why would someone even think they deserve “lost earnings while being held in jail” and if he did get them who would pay him?

Seattlite December 31, 2023 (9:06 am)

The jury’s verdict is unforgiveable and indefensible.

Seattlite December 31, 2023 (9:14 am)

How large is America’s population? Answer: 340 Million. America will be 249 years old in 2024. If you don’t think America is exceptional in building up this country, than you are being mislead. Currently, there are things going on in America that are 100% dysfunctional and dangerous like police officer shortages. America’s Constitution, Bill of Rights, Liberty, Freedom, and Rule of Law are being ignored by a certain segment. Hopefully, 2024 will be the year to correct the dysfunction. Happy New Year.

Josh December 31, 2023 (11:34 am)

You mean by electing a foaming autocrat who will gleefully tear up the constitution on Madison Avenue broadcasted on national tv all to the cheers of his wrestling fan base?I look forward to the end of all this democratic chaos and to the stability of a prolonged dictatorship.
KB December 31, 2023 (4:49 pm)

I truly encourage you to travel the world a bit, and you will realize there are many exceptional well-functioning, productive countries that do not have the severe problems we have with gun violence – that is what makes us “dysfunctional.”
- Canton January 1, 2024 (6:45 am)
  
  All the countries you speak of are slaves of their government. Not here in the USA. We will never be owned by the people we elect to RUN the government. The American citizens are in charge. If the gov wants to adopt China’s approach of control, we have tools to reject that path…

valvashon December 31, 2023 (9:22 am)

I’m on no medications so I’m not off of any. What I have proposed is basically a compendium of how guns are regulated in a wide variety of other developed countries, ones that don’t have deadly shootings over traffic disputes or mass shootings just about anywhere these days. Repealing the Second Amendment is a start and after that we do need to dramatically reduce the amount of guns in circulation. This will not be an easy or quick process and will be impossible without nationalizing weapons and ammuntion production to control the amount available. We also need to make owning or using a gun un-cool, like was done with cigarettes, another public health crisis. Owning a gun should lose you friends, not gain them.For those of you who do want to “educate yourself”, I would suggest reading up on how Australia handled things after one mass shooting in 1996. I would also suggest reading the Thom Hartmann book, The Hidden History of Guns and the Second Amendment. Both offfer insights as to how we got here and what we can do about it.I’m not saying that putting this “toothpaste back in the tube” will be easy or quick. But guns are an artifical construct and the amount of them in circulation can be reduced to basically background noise.

Maria December 31, 2023 (10:41 am)

I don’t own a gun. I’ve never even touched a gun and I couldn’t disagree with your comment more. 2nd Amendment rights are constitutionally protected. Period. End of story. It is completely ignorant to believe that handing over guns to a government that nobody in this country trusts would lead to anything other than full on tyrannical behavior towards the citizens of this country.
Seattlite December 31, 2023 (10:52 am)

Australia is an island with no adjacent countries which renders it a poor comparison to the USA which does have bordering countries. The USA’s Founding Fathers understood that Americans need to have a Second Amendment to protect themselves, their families, their properties. Read the Constitution and the Federalist Papers which gives insight to why the Constitution was written. As long as the USA is a Constitutional Republic, Americans have the right to bear arms. Background checks are done prior to purchasing a gun. Americans who are trained, legal gun owners do not have problems with having friends instead they respect them. The ONLY focus of law enforcement should be on criminals who have stolen guns and organized crime that moves and sales stolen guns within the USA. And, also on any American or mentally ill American who lied on their background checks. Happy New Year.
Adam December 31, 2023 (4:37 pm)

Given that humans know how to create guns, how could you ever stop them? I disagree with so much of what you say, but honestly we don’t have to go much further than “could never happen”. Ppl will make their own, regardless of your government-cheese quality nationalized guns and ammo being offered and tracked. You literally could NOT rid the place of guns. And as for the government in charge, were you happy with the Trump-led one? Biden’s crew? Cuz you may not like who’s making those decisions and may not get what you want.
alki_2008 January 1, 2024 (4:23 pm)

Monash University shooting in 2002 (Australia) didn’t count as a “mass shooting” because only 2 people died and 5 were injured. They only call it a “mass shooting” if 4+ people die. There have also been several incidents of multiple shooting victims, but they were family killings that also don’t count as “mass shooting”. The point is…gun laws are not going to stop all gun violence. Better background checks and stronger penalties for criminals with illegal guns is what’s needed.

Also, did you know that there are now more guns in Australia than before the 1996 mass shooting that kicked off their revised gun laws?

enginerd December 31, 2023 (9:24 am)

What an unfortunate outcome all around… I do not understand how Valderrama was not guilty of at least manslaughter. This same jury decided that he DID NOT prove “that the use of force was lawful”… so if the use of deadly force was not warranted isn’t that manslaughter?

And despite this unfortunate event and outcome…. DO NOT use this as some excuse to promote violating my rights as a citizen protected by the United States Constitution!!!!

GC December 31, 2023 (10:04 am)

I can’t believe this turned into a gun rights forum and debate. His family and friends are mourning him while you go about this. At the time this happened several classmates including my husband were trying to make a golfing outing to commemorate their 50th graduation from Chief Sealth. Please read the article about his wife and daughter and what they go through because of the shooter. He should be sitting in a jail forever. Bob is gone. Telling everyone he should have stayed in his truck and blaming him his wrong. Think about the subject and your unkind words before you type.

lincolnbark December 31, 2023 (11:55 am)

When you choose to leave the safety of a vehicle to physically confront another person, you are the aggressor. The law is crystal clear about circumstances like this.
- Mike December 31, 2023 (10:42 pm)
  
  Even if he (Bob) was being aggressive, shouting, banging on a car, jumping up and down, doesn’t give legal right to shoot him. Especially when you are in your vehicle and can literally drive around them and away. I wasn’t there, but it sounded like the shooters a trigger happy person who failed to use logic and ended Bob’s life because of their own lack of judgement. If the jury got totally different information that proved Bob to be an imminent threat to the life of the shooter or others around them, that’s the only way I can imagine this shooter being let free unless the jury is severely biased. https://www.washingtongunlaw.com/lawful-use-of-firearms-in-self-defense 
- Rhonda January 1, 2024 (1:11 pm)
  
  You are correct, lincolnbark. And if the other person exits their vehicle and moves towards the aggressor, as well, it becomes a mutual combat situation with no victim/aggressor. Always stay in (or at least around) your vehicle if you are blocked-in by stopped traffic.

JDB December 31, 2023 (10:13 am)

The vigilantism in this city is out of control. I remember reading about a man who followed a teen home to confront them after an improper merging. No one deserves to die but we also don’t know what the situation is with the person in the other car and it is very dangerous to confront someone. Stay in your car and let things go. Not worth your life to try and correct someone.

bradley December 31, 2023 (10:38 am)

I would be interested in hearing from the Prosecutor how this case came out. It must have been a fascinating defense presentation, based on the published witness statements.

lincolnbark December 31, 2023 (11:57 am)

not really – the jury would be asked if a reasonable person could view an able bodied man, who may have a weapon as a threat approaching your car.
- bradley December 31, 2023 (1:52 pm)
  
  Which is a shame based on reports who was the initial instigator. Blocking, flipping off, brake checking. Yeah, he felt threatened.

K December 31, 2023 (10:49 am)

When you get your jury summons, instead of joking and making excuses to get out of jury duty, make arrangements and sit for a trial. You don’t know what the jury did and didn’t know when making this decision. You only know what you’ve read from friends and neighbors. Until you’ve been in the position of making decisions like this as a juror, you don’t know who did their job and who didn’t, or how the verdict ended up somewhere that was so surprising to you.

High School Teacher December 31, 2023 (9:42 pm)

Good point.
alki_2008 January 1, 2024 (4:28 pm)

I remember a joke, which is not really funny if you think about it, about how defendants in jury trials are basically having their fates determined by people who weren’t smart enough to get out of jury duty.

anonyme December 31, 2023 (11:15 am)

America is a death cult masquerading under a banner of freedom. How ludicrous that so many people are being shot to death over simple disagreements.

heartless December 31, 2023 (12:50 pm)

Thanks for calling it as it is.

Stickerbush December 31, 2023 (12:12 pm)

Tangentially related maybe…but I’ve been wondering why I never get called for jury duty. Registered voter and licensed driver in King County for 38 years and I’ve only been summoned once, about 20 years ago.

KT December 31, 2023 (12:41 pm)

Let’s summarize, the jury finds him not guilty of 2nd degree murder and not guilty of manslaughter but finds the use of force was not lawful. Really? Um …

Jethro Marx December 31, 2023 (1:18 pm)

It’s often the case that neither can be proven. There are some arbitrary elements to self-defense claims and it’s easy to tell a jury the defendant feared for his life because yadayada. If he were unjustly jailed after a provably lawful use of force he would get damages. The fact that the victim had no weapon, nor anything in his hands, makes that a tough argument.

WestSeattleBadTakes December 31, 2023 (1:56 pm)

Everyone arguing about guns when the primary problem here was the cars.

Elle December 31, 2023 (5:16 pm)

This is crazy. Can the family if the victim appeal this??

Stickerbush December 31, 2023 (6:34 pm)

No but they could bring a civil case against the defendent.
Josh December 31, 2023 (7:01 pm)

One can not be tried twice once acquitted, that would be a total nightmare for society. This would have been a very tough case to prosecute and win given the man who was killed initiated the conflict by exiting his car and approaching the other car. At that point all the defendant has to convince the jury is that he was afraid and thought the other guy might have been reaching for a weapon. The defense does not even have to prove that that was true, just that it might have been possible and the jury would then be required to acquit. The recourse the family has is a civil lawsuit where the burden of proof is much lower and has different requirements. Based on the known facts of the case and that the jury also said that the defendant did not prove that he had not committed a crime but rather the prosecution was unable (because it would have likely been impossible to do so) to convince them that he absolutely committed a crime. This means if the family can get decent civil representation it is reasonable to likely the defendant will be found civilly responsible for the death of the other.
- bradley December 31, 2023 (9:32 pm)
  
  Josh, not arguing against your point per se. But its bizzare that a jury can’t take into consideration that it wasn’t just some random act of approaching another driver. Maybe he wanted directions. Or thought he had collided with the driver. Or wanted to apologize. It sounds like he never had a chance to step foot forward. But the suspect knew that there was a confrontation that he was involved in, and probably created. This seems to open the door for any excuse if a driver approaches a driver for innocent actions, he/they could be accused of “having a possible weapon” and fearing for life, be shot dead. In this instance, there was more happening and it’s too bad the justice system can’t address that too. It wasn’t just innocent happenstance. There’s something seriously wrong here.
  - WSderp December 31, 2023 (11:39 pm)
    
    @bradley your points are valid, but they are all statements used if the aggressor in this situation was charged with a crime. If he didn’t die and was charged with initiating a conflict, those would be legitimate explanations for at least getting out of the vehicle. But in this case, it doesn’t bring anything to the defense, nor prosecutor’s case. All of those statements would be deemed circumstantial at best anyway. If someone had “good intentions” when getting out of a vehicle, it’s quite easy to communicate that they are not a threat before approaching someone. Rage and anger are also easy to assess.
  - Josh January 1, 2024 (12:57 pm)
    
    The jury can take the random act of friendliness theory into account. The entire jury would have to agree that, beyond any reasonable doubt, that the defendant knew the kind intentions of the car exiter and still chose to kill him. This, of course, would only be possible if the defense was so hopelessly bad at both jury selection and also bringing up an alternate theory that is just as if not more plausible (the theory they surely went with and won on) that of a the myriad possible motivations and reactions that one of them was that the defendant saw the man exit his car and saw the man make any sort of motion in that could possibly be interpreted as reaching towards his pocket region or having something in his hand that the defendant feared was a weapon and as such was in fear for his life and that led him to draw down and fire. The fact the altercation occurred so quickly once the man was out of his car actually makes it easier for the defendant to claim he was not part of any escalation and was in fear of his life. Only the omniscient eye and the defendant truly know how true that is, but our justice system is set up to make it much more likely that criminals are free than there being wrongly imprisoned innocent people. While not perfect it’s better than the alternative and even considering how class alters the game the system is pretty darn good at not imprisoning people who have committed no crime.
    - waikikigirl January 3, 2024 (7:07 am)
      
      And did you all know that after being shot Bob got back to his truck and moved it out of the road as to not block the other drivers. This was seen on security cameras, but more so because this was the sort of man Bob was, considerate and caring of others.

Gabe Rawlins January 1, 2024 (6:37 am)

Agree or disagree with the verdict, the defendant was found not guilty by a jury of his peers. That’s the justice system we have and we have to respect that. Either the Prosecution didn’t do a good enough job proving beyond a reasonable doubt that the shooting amounted to murder or the defense was able to convince the jury the defendant was in fear for his life and acted in self defense.

Hey Johnny January 3, 2024 (1:04 am)

Yea that’s how I see it and the fact that it could be argued self defense since he got out but at the same time shame on the younger man resulting to deadly force on an older man like that who clearly was overreacting, wasn’t worth him taking his life but you do have to prove beyond doubt.

Scarlett January 1, 2024 (1:39 pm)

The passive-aggressive, vindictive driving I see in this city on a continual basis is off the charts. It seems like a special favor out of the goodness of their teeny weeny heart when someone decides to let you merge. Such childishness that can have deadly repercussions.

Peter January 1, 2024 (5:12 pm)

How many of you who are so outraged by the jury’s verdict were in the courtroom every day, saw and heard all the evidence, and have such a thorough understanding of the law that you alone can make the correct decision?

Canton January 2, 2024 (7:49 pm)

Where were we? At work bro. You know, roof, food, clothes!?!…? Not all of us have paid activist jobs… Some of us have to work our asses off to be a cog in the machine. Maybe Bob was angry. Was he a deadly threat? Doesn’t seem so. Did Bob deserve to die that day; F no.

ShellyC January 15, 2024 (7:25 pm)

Saddened to hear that there wasn’t justice for my friend Bob. I have been waiting for an outcome here and really at a loss to understand it. Apparently paranoid people with guns get a win. It takes a real man like Bob was to try to have a conversation without hiding behind a weapon. I have told this story to many as the lesson is…let it go it’s not worth it to lose your life. People are too on edge these days. I feel sorry for the paranoid person who shot my friend. It must feel awful the be such a weak bully. RIP Bob. You were a great strong man, until a coward gunned you down.

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