West Seattle snow/ice: Tuesday evening, and Wed. previews

(UPDATED TOPLINES, 10:21 PM: Bridges OK. Many roads icy. Metro info here – snow routing again Wednesday. Water Taxi resumes Wednesday. Most schools closed Wednesday, closures updated here)

3:01 PM: No new snow today – so all you have to worry about this afternoon/evening is ice. Traveling from south to north West Seattle at midday today, we saw several SDOT trucks, including the one above. They say 11 plow-spreader trucks are operating “in the south end” along with 2 “brine flush” trucks. They’re monitoring the bridges while considering salt before the evening commute. So how are the bridges? Here are the latest live pictures:

(Refresh for latest pic of WS Bridge, looking eastbound, and 1st Ave. S. Bridge, more on the WSB Traffic cams page)
For earlier road reports, check comments on our previous continuous-coverage update – but now it’s time to look ahead and share news on what’s happening for the rest of the day/evening. The city now is updating an online list of road closures – click here. (Highland Park Way is the biggest one in our area right now.)

But even if a road’s open, it can be treacherous, as this Seattle City Light truck found out on Fairmount (thanks to S for the photo/info):

She says it’s been there at least an hour, and another City Light truck, with cones, is blocking the road uphill. And there’s the garbage truck stuck west of The Junction since *yesterday* – James shared this video of the tow truck running a line way down hill:

Remember that SDOT is only working on the major roads – lots of icy neighborhood streets, like 106th and 34th looking east, in this photo from MargL:

Dwight sent this photo from 44th, closed “just up from Brace Point” because a water main broke, leaving a thick sheet of ice on the street:

Meantime, Misty reports via Facebook that her power is back after 20 hours and a long cold night. City Light still has a few people out in West Seattle.

NOTES FOR TONIGHT: Community Centers closing 4 pm. City libraries closing 5 pm (open noon-5 tomorrow). West Seattle YMCA closing 8 pm.

4:44 PM UPDATE: Seattle Public Schools has just announced no school tomorrow, as have Hope Lutheran School and Seattle Lutheran High School. On the roads, there are multiple units responding to a crash at 5400 West Marginal Way SW (map), but we have no details yet.

5 PM UPDATE: A stalled vehicle reported on the southbound Alaskan Way Viaduct near Columbia onramp.

5:54 PM UPDATE: If you wonder what the fire trucks are doing at Junction QFC – we’ve published a short story about it; there’s a water problem, but the store’s still open. Another business note: Barnes & Noble-Westwood says they’re closing at 6 pm but expecting a normal 9 am opening tomorrow.

6:36 PM UPDATE: Still no reports of trouble. Hope everyone is home safe and warm by now. We’re now under a Special Weather Statement – the National Weather Service says subfreezing temperatures are expected to continue into Thanksgiving morning, and then things will trend back toward “normal.” Also continuing to add Wednesday school closures/changes to the page linked atop this story.

6:49 PM UPDATE: Looking for Sea-Tac Airport info? West Seattle’s Alice Enevoldsen (of AlicesAstroInfo.com among other things) has been tweeting about her odyssey to get to the airport. Her reports include: Highway 509 “wet one lane, piled slush on lane edges,” exits icy (like 518 and 518 to 509), no taxi lines that she saw, “airport overall calm and quiet,” icy roads through Burien and White Center. Read all her updates by going to twitter.com/alicesastroinfo.

7:06 PM UPDATE: Chimney fire call in the 3000 block of 49th SW – scanner describes it as “possible” chimney fire.

7:16 PM UPDATE: New Metro info in for tomorrow, which gives us the occasion to use this photo they sent along earlier today:

That’s King County Executive Dow Constantine watching as Metro’s Saravanan Thangavelu and Mark Gorow prepare a new round of Transit Alerts to go out to bus riders. Highlights of Metro’s latest update: Keep staying inside if at all possible; tomorrow morning’s conditions aren’t expected to be much better, and buses are expected to be on snow routing again. You’ll find Wednesday updates by 4 am here. Metro will be out overnight checking conditions and also retrieving stuck buses.

7:38 PM UPDATE: The Kiwanis Club of West Seattle and Rotary Club of West Seattle both have now called off tomorrow’s meetings.

10:17 PM UPDATE: What a difference a night makes – it’s been really quiet, no word of anything like last night’s traffictastrophes. A few more schools have made their decisions for tomorrow; here’s our updated list. We also have word from a WSB’er that Superior and District Court are both closed again tomorrow – which she says hasn’t happened two days in a row in the more-than-a-few years she’s worked for the court. Metro is DEFINITELY on snow routing for the morning, and the Water Taxi is scheduled to be back in operation. Beautiful shot here by William, taken this morning:

Also from the West Seattle shore – dramatic photos of erosion that was revealed this morning, in the wake of last night’s wind (and preceding storminess) – see them here.

11:11 PM UPDATE:
We are “unsticking” this story and it will fall back down the page to the point where it began (you can find the quicklink from the TOP STORIES list on the sidebar). We’ll start a morning commute story in the 5 am hour; of course if anything major happens in the meantime, we remain on 24/7 patrol, so we’ll report it separately.

75 Replies to "West Seattle snow/ice: Tuesday evening, and Wed. previews"

  • brittany November 23, 2010 (3:15 pm)

    fingers crossed for calling off school tomorrow. how silly would it be to send the kids back for one day before the thanksgiving break? very silly.

  • bridge to somewhere November 23, 2010 (3:22 pm)

    So, the city’s grand plan for West Seattle was to direct everyone to a city bus, and then have those buses use the lower bridge. Unfortunately, however, someone appeared to have not coordinated with SDOT, for, as another report on WSB mentions, “When we arrived at the lower West Seattle Bridge, there was no salt or gravel on the bridge and we could smell burning rubber of car tires.” I appreciate people pointing out that Seattle gets snow so rarely we needn’t invest heavily in snow removal equipment, but one might wonder if we could at least invest in some intelligent leadership when coming up with snow emergency plans. Direct city buses to a bridge that wasn’t completely clear? That seems pretty stupid to me.

  • manda kel & lulu November 23, 2010 (3:32 pm)

    any idea when can we expect updates for tomorrow’s closures / road conditions?

  • WSB November 23, 2010 (3:37 pm)

    At least till after dark. The question is how much refreezing will be noticed. If you look at the cams or have been out, some surfaces like the WS Bridge eastbound look great, bare and dry, but then we have all those crazy icy side streets… and as forecast, it hasn’t been out of the 20s all day.

  • April November 23, 2010 (3:38 pm)

    Just got home after taking the 56 bus all the way from 1st & Marion downtown all the way to 61st and Alki. On time, smooth sailing the whole way. Passed 3 buses abandoned on our way up Admiral hill. Bus driver did a great job. I think we need to give props to these great bus drivers that are really doing a great job getting us all where we need to go today. I was amazed she actually stopped for someone who was at a bus stop half way up Admiral hill, and then made several stops dropping people off going down the other side on the way to Alki. She was awesome, and I let her know. I also offered her a $ tip, but she absolutely refused to take it. However, she did say that my words were very much appreciated. Let your bus drivers know how much you appreciate them too!

  • Wendy Hughes-Jelen November 23, 2010 (3:45 pm)

    You need an updating temperature gauge on the home page, above the traffic cams. I am down to one thermometer and it’s in the sun in the afternoon so I can’t trust it and I want to know how cold it is!

  • Scott of the Antartic November 23, 2010 (3:47 pm)

    In the wake of all the traffic hassles, folks stuck on busses for hours, etc., here’s a rhetorical question for you: I wonder how many runs of our Link Light Rail System got cancelled? None perhaps? Something to be taken away from that? As spendy as a dedicated light rail system can be, you have to admit they rarely get held up by traffic (unless some knothead driver runs into one), and seem to be able to run regardless of the weather. Food for thought.

  • Sue November 23, 2010 (3:58 pm)

    Wendy, weather.com has a weather toolbar you can download – at the bottom of my browser window I can always tell the current temp (27), tonight’s low (15!), tomorrow’s weather, and links to the 10 day forecast, etc.

  • k November 23, 2010 (4:00 pm)

    just an fyi for those headed out to run Thanksgiving errands tonight. i am in south admiral. side streets are still iced over. many getting worse as the sun is setting. much of it will refreeze. absolutely packed at Metropolitan Market. be patient waiting for a parking spot. main roads are in good shape. SLOW DOWN on the side roads and in neighborhoods.

  • Babs November 23, 2010 (4:06 pm)

    Does anyone have a report on the road conditions on Vashon Island? Particularly the main highway between town and the north end ferry dock? Are ferries running on schedule?

  • Megan November 23, 2010 (4:06 pm)

    So I lived on the eastside in all the snow of 2008 and clearly it was a lot of snow and was bad, however I did see lots of King County Snow Plows out and about (before and during a snow event). I have yet to see any from the City of Seattle (other then the picture in the story). Does anyone know how many snow plows Seattle has vs. King County?

    I know there is a lot more ground to cover in all of unincorporated King County, however can they not share?

  • sam November 23, 2010 (4:14 pm)

    Andover (uphill to P.P. from Delridge) is pretty icy and not all cars are making it up… have seen a few drivers slide backwards down the hill in the last couple of hours.

  • Megan B November 23, 2010 (4:14 pm)

    Husband made it home from Greenlake area fine over the viaduct & high bridge. Delridge was fine, and he made it up Oregon/23rd/Dawson ok with no chains. Said it was icy, but took it slow in a low gear. 18th is icy as well. Be careful!

  • MargL November 23, 2010 (4:15 pm)

    It’s also a good idea to call the store before heading out to get something specific. Roxbury Safeway is still out of green beans (lucky I called).

  • Barb W November 23, 2010 (4:16 pm)

    Snow plow went up and down Admiral 4 times on my walk up the hill

  • bridge to somewhere November 23, 2010 (4:16 pm)

    A ray of goodness in the city response. I saw the good men and women of the Seattle Fire Department just stop by to check on a homeless man at a park across the street from me. The man appeared to want to stay, so they gave him a blanket and tucked him in. Warmed my heart, actually.

  • Elikapeka November 23, 2010 (4:26 pm)

    Just returned from a very short trip to Westwood Village from Sunrise Heights. Main streets aren’t bad, but really nothing melted off the side streets, and once the sun goes down even the main streets will be very slick again.

    Saw some very irresponsible behavior on many levels – for example, the person who tried a u-turn on Trenton right below the rise of the hill so oncoming traffic couldn’t see her. Luckily our vehicle was able to stop in time to avoid her. Then there was the woman on a side street who flung her car door open, assuming you’ll just stop for them because there isn’t enough room to drive past them safely. And while most pedestrians are using common sense, there are a few who walk boldly off the sidewalk as though vehicles can stop as quickly as they normally can. Everybody, drivers and pedestrians alike, need to remember to give extra time and distance in these conditions.

  • CitizenR November 23, 2010 (4:27 pm)

    35th from Highpoint to Barton is pretty frozen already! Don’t think it was cleared like down below! Side streets are worse then this morning, especially if you have a hill to go down to get to your home like I do (this was at 3:45pm) terrible, iced and slippery and I have 4 weel drive … doesn’t matter if it’s ice only helps on snow!!!

  • hotel admiral November 23, 2010 (4:35 pm)

    Just drove from Capitol Hill to Admiral/Metropolitan Market area and back to Capitol Hill.

    I-5 in most areas is clear but there are some areas that are still visibly icy and sketchy at best. Some people of course are driving way too fast. Grrrr.

    West Seattle Bridge is clear. Passed a handful of vehicles that were ditched last night that have yet to be retrieved.

    Admiral itself is clear in most areas just use caution while turning/changing lanes. Two stalled busses when I drove from bottom of the hill to Metropolitan Market but I think one of them may have been from last night. No signs of life in/near bus. The other bus, right after the viewpoint still had it’s hazards flashing. Truck trailer still stopped/stuck/stalled at the viewpoint.

    Ice everywhere around Seattle. Side streets in Capitol Hill are a joke/not to be driven on. Same with some of the side streets I passed while I was still in the Admiral area.
    If it’s really going to snow or even rain again tomorrow night, I would say we’re in for a real treat- especially those that need to commute from downtown to WS. Hopefully everyone can plan ahead and not be faced with that situation. I will be seeking refuge on Capitol Hill after leaving work downtown!

  • angelescrest November 23, 2010 (4:50 pm)

    Info re: Vashon
    No power on island, though Thriftway has managed to stay open. No school tomorrow. Icey roads; ferry seems to be off-schedule but running.

  • Synergy3k November 23, 2010 (4:57 pm)

    Anyone have any info on the buses? I’m really hoping to get home from Redmond tonight, leaving around 6:30. Hoping for the ST 545 and either the 54 or 55 from downtown. Long delays? Am I nuts to try? :) Thanks!

  • lina rose November 23, 2010 (4:59 pm)

    Drove back from Magnuson Park to Arbor heights today around 3pm and it was a smooth commute. I agree about witnessing stupid behavior on the road. I feel like there is lots of blame for the gridlock being aimed at the city’s response to the snow but I feel like an equal portion of that blame falls on drivers making stupid decisions like braking/accelerating to quickly, pulling u-turns or just general poor driving leading to accidents causing even more traffic. I understand that these conditions are unusual and that many folks don’t know how to drive in the snow. I grew up in Boston so I am super comfortable with it. If you don’t know how to drive in the snow, please seek out some help from a friend or more resources on how to be safe and effective driving in the snow.

  • angelescrest November 23, 2010 (5:00 pm)

    I am seeing on schoolreports.org that Seattle Public Schools will be closed tomorrow as well. Is further verification needed?

    • WSB November 23, 2010 (5:02 pm)

      hi, we added SPS closure about 15 minutes ago, it’s official – will have a link shortly where we will gather all tomorrow’s closing info (Hope and SLHS have sent word too) – TR

  • Tina November 23, 2010 (5:01 pm)

    I was out moving snow from the sidewalk out front of my home when a very nice lady and her son stop to help me they cleared off the steps Which you could not see. It very nice of them to do this. Forgot there names but they were in a white volvo. Then one our neighbors helped me with the sidewalk. Thank you so much!!

  • maplesyrup November 23, 2010 (5:02 pm)

    yeah we just got a robocall from SPS saying they’re closed tomorrow.

  • Dan\\\\\\\'a November 23, 2010 (5:17 pm)

    Any word on getting to Alki/Beach Dr from the airport via taxi? My husband is landing in about 2 hours. Funnily enough, he had a flight out on the day the huge snow storm started in 2008. Never fails, weather is bad = he has to be at the airport coming or going.

    • WSB November 23, 2010 (5:25 pm)

      Late last night we heard the taxi line was long. Did you try checking with Super Shuttle about catching a ride with them from the airport home? I believe you can book them in advance … maybe even on short notice … TR

  • jeff November 23, 2010 (5:24 pm)

    does anyone know if Jaks is open? Also how does the morgan hill look?

    Thanks,

    Jeff

  • Dan\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'a November 23, 2010 (5:25 pm)

    Thanks TR. I will let him know. He is on chat on the plane. Crazy Technology

  • Sue November 23, 2010 (5:38 pm)

    Shuttle Express is not taking any bookings due to snow through tomorrow – a friend tried to get a shuttle to Amtrak and had to cancel her trip because she couldn’t get anyone to pick her up.

    • WSB November 23, 2010 (5:40 pm)

      Received a report from Rob about Marine View Drive, which he drove to check out not that long ago: ” Unlike most of the other big hills, the snow/ice pack didn’t wear through at all and it is covered from the intersection with Barton all the way to the top of the hill. It is pretty slippery and you can see tire tracks that indicate cars have had a really tough time getting up it. There is a bit of water on top of the snow and ice which is going to freeze as the temperature drops, and it is going to get considerably more slippery tonight. “

  • brittany November 23, 2010 (5:41 pm)

    how’s delridge looking? might need to attempt a trip down to westwood…..

  • shane November 23, 2010 (5:47 pm)

    brittany, a couple of hours ago there were small bits of slush but otherwise it was fine. It may be a little slippery now as the sun is down, but it should be substantially clear.

  • je November 23, 2010 (5:49 pm)

    I haven’t ventured out today…a little scared. Does anyone know how 35th is by Highpoint headed north?

  • miws November 23, 2010 (5:49 pm)

    Taxis might be tough to come by. KOMO 4 News has reported that Farwest is not dispatching any more cabs.

    .

    Mike

  • Dan'a November 23, 2010 (5:50 pm)

    there is one car service with cars to and from the airport still, but they are charging 120.00 a trip to west seattle.
    Lemme know if you want the number.

  • sa November 23, 2010 (5:50 pm)

    The gridlock experienced last night was preventable. As was pointed out earlier, King County Metro’s solution was to reroute buses to the low bridge, meanwhile SDOT never sent anything down to the low bridge at all. Add to that WSDOT decides to close the Viaduct. Here again you have three separate agencies making discordant decisions. The incompetence is nothing less than mind boggling.

  • chris November 23, 2010 (6:01 pm)

    anyone know if garbage is being picked up tomorrow?

    • WSB November 23, 2010 (6:03 pm)

      Chris, do you have regular Wednesday pickup or are you wondering about today’s pickup (which is postponed till next Tuesday – “put out double for no extra charge” says the city)? – TR

  • Scott of the Antartic November 23, 2010 (6:05 pm)

    @sa: bridge to nowhere has also pointed out that better coordination between agencies are in order, and you elaborated on it really well. It does appear that Seattle (SDOT), King Co. (Metro), and the State of Washington (WSDOT) each had a game plan, but weren’t sharing playbooks. If each of these jurisdictions wants to jealously guard their own transportation fiefdoms, than they really should do a better job of liaison with each other. This is the sort of ‘nuts and bolts’ of good government that isn’t terribly sexy or newsworthy, but one sure notices it’s absence, yes?

  • Dave November 23, 2010 (6:06 pm)

    Have they cancelled the regular Wednesday trash (yard waste) collection? Thx

  • chris November 23, 2010 (6:09 pm)

    regular Wednesday.

  • Mark November 23, 2010 (6:24 pm)

    Anyone know how California ave is from Alaska Junction to Admiral Junction? Any ice spots?

  • Sue November 23, 2010 (6:26 pm)

    Any word on how Metro is doing tonight? My husband went into work and he’s fully prepared to walk home, but hoping me might actually catch a bus.

    • WSB November 23, 2010 (6:27 pm)

      Sue – till the first-person accounts roll in – I’m watching the various streams and so far it APPEARS that “no news is good news” …here’s hoping!

  • CeeBee November 23, 2010 (6:29 pm)

    We came up Morgan Hill about 4:30, it was packed snow and ice but navigable in our big, heavy SUV. Just go slow and stead and pray no one in front of you stops. There was one car park that was sticking out into traffic a bit, but just veer around.

  • Minimad November 23, 2010 (6:39 pm)

    Any updates on snow tomorrow? Heard there is a possibility. Wondering if I should take off for Portland tomorrow evening or wait until Thursday morning..

  • sam November 23, 2010 (6:39 pm)

    Jeff: Jak’s number: (206) 937-7809

  • miws November 23, 2010 (6:42 pm)

    Just received this e-mail notice from K.C Transportation, regarding the West Seattle and Vashon Water Taxis, concerning tomorrow’s service:

    “***Service Alert***

    Regularly scheduled King County Water Taxi service for both the Vashon route and West Seattle route will resume tomorrow morning, November 24th. Please note that service will be dictated by weather conditions. Check the following site for both service updates and schedule information.

    http://www.kingcounty.gov/transportation/kcdot/WaterTaxi.aspx.”

    .

    Mike

  • Admiral Janeway November 23, 2010 (6:46 pm)

    Metro buses are running but no attempt to stay on schedule. I was waiting a half hour at a downtown bus stop before deciding to catch any bus headed for West Seattle. Made it to the Spokane and Chelan. Luckily, the bus behind me was going up to the Junction. Rode up to the Junction and walked home from there. Total commute time: 1:45.

  • Jim November 23, 2010 (6:57 pm)

    Does anyone know if Highland Park hill is still closed? That’s how I get to work.

  • snowroute November 23, 2010 (7:00 pm)

    I didn’t know the snow route for #54 was to turn off Delridge onto SW Barton St and head towards WWV down the SW Barton St HILL. :) I think a bus made a wrong turn, meant to turn down SW Barton PL rather than SW Barton St.

    Be careful on the hill kids…maybe fun for sliding down but not if you see a metro bus heading towards you.

  • Sue November 23, 2010 (7:16 pm)

    That’s what I’m hoping, TR, re: the bus. Phil said he’ll wait up to half an hour and then start walking along the bus route. Brought extra clothing for the cold walk home. Personally I think he was crazy to even go in. I guess I’m just not that dedicated. :)

  • Dizzle November 23, 2010 (7:23 pm)

    Curious about garbage pick-up that is scheduled (regular) for Wednesday? I couldn’t find anything on the SPU website.

  • miws November 23, 2010 (7:32 pm)

    Looks like the “chimney fire” must’ve been a non-issue, fortunately, the call is already closed.

    .

    Mike

    • WSB November 23, 2010 (7:34 pm)

      They didn’t announce it today till the very last minute. I’m not holding out much hope of early notice this time. We’d just put ours out when the media alert came in early today …

  • stelladotdiva November 23, 2010 (7:40 pm)

    Has anyone driven from the Alki area to downtown Seattle? Not sure how the roads are along First and near the Market.

  • golden November 23, 2010 (7:42 pm)

    There is a good size tree resting on powerlines on Sylvan Way . It’s on the sidewalk side near those few houses about half way down toward Delridge.

  • meeshala November 23, 2010 (7:50 pm)

    The buses seemed fine at midday – I didn’t have to wait that long for the 54 from/to AK junction. I left downtown at 4:35 and got to junction QFC at 5:05. We did go on the snow route over the lower bridge and up Avalon, but I was surprised at how fast it was. I left work early because I was worried about the roads freezing over after the sun set. Hopefully people won’t have to walk tonight unless they want to!

  • EmmyJane November 23, 2010 (7:59 pm)

    FYI- Bus jackknifed at Glenn/Oregon was just cleared. Metro is in the process of clearing the bus stuck on Oregon between 44th and Glenn.

  • mightymo November 23, 2010 (8:23 pm)

    My wife has to take the 560 from the Alaska Junction to Renton tomorrow. (It’s faster than transferring downtown on a good weather day.) The site just says “reduced frequency,” but does anyone have any anecdotes about today’s trips? Did you wait hours for a bus? Strange reroutes?

  • Susan November 23, 2010 (8:26 pm)

    Is Wednesday garbage pickup on a regular schedule, has anyone heard?

  • ad November 23, 2010 (8:27 pm)

    Just made it home to Genesee Hill via 1st ave/low bridge/Avalon. My car has AWD. It was a ghost town! Nobody around down there. Chained, articulated Bus 22 was in front of me on Avalon and was driving slowly. Saw cars struggling with streets off of Avalon. I was on autopilot and turned right on Oregon, went up the first hill and realized I needed to get myself back on Fauntleroy to the Junction!!! Passed the clearing of the Metro Bus EmmyJane mentioned on Oregon/Glenn. When I went up Genesee it seemed like one huge sheet of compact snow/ice but I made it fine going 25mph and not stopping. I saw another car spinning tires trying to get up.

    Another note: Pedestrians, please be aware that cars are still sliding to a stop at intersections and don’t cross until a car is fully stopped! Had a close call earlier today…

  • Paul November 23, 2010 (8:48 pm)

    To all you people who parked on the street ( you know the one that says no parking) to shop at Metropolitan Market. What is wrong with your brain, You do know people need to drive through?

    Although I have seen people come together in these hard times to help eachother, I have seen more selfish and foolishness, Is there hope for us?..I dunno

  • Sue November 23, 2010 (8:52 pm)

    My husband was waiting on 3rd & Columbia for the 54 (the last stop on the snow route) and saw the bus turn down the Columbia hill towards 2nd, on its regular route. Fortunately he sprinted and made it. If you’re planning on waiting at 3rd/Columbia, you might want to walk back to 3rd/Seneca just in case another bus makes the same mistake.

  • Kerry November 23, 2010 (9:11 pm)

    Does anyone know how to find out what roads are plowed/iced in downtown? I need to drive to the Nordstrom Tower on pill hill tomorrow, but I don’t think Madison is the way to go.

  • ad November 23, 2010 (9:25 pm)

    Kerry- I have to get to Pill Hill tomorrow too. I just called Swedish 1st Hill and the operator said that the roads are well sanded in that vicinity. She said Madison should be fine. She wasn’t sure about James (steeeeeep).

  • synergy3k November 23, 2010 (9:27 pm)

    I had great luck with the buses tonight. Took the 545 fromRedmond to 5th and Seneca and then grabbed the 54 to the juction on 3rd. Both buses on time and not too full. I may just do it again tomorrow instead of driving!

  • Josh November 23, 2010 (9:48 pm)

    I’ve been through most of West Seattle today, to the airport, and down to Federal Way and back. Basically, main roads are all pretty decent—they started getting slicker today around the time of the evening commute. Probably best time to be out if you have to be is between 11-2. I have a front wheel drive vehicle, but have studs and chains on it and it is pretty easy to get anywhere, including up and down big hills that are basically solid ice. But if you don’t have 4wd, no chains, no studs, etc. don’t try driving up or down any big hills. The best thing you can do is put chains on–the real chains if you can find them rather than the cables. Also, think about your route before you leave, including how to avoid hills and which roads are wider. If you are on wide roads, you have a lot more room for forgiveness. And, most important of all: stay away from everyone, as far away as you can.

  • Gemma November 23, 2010 (10:27 pm)

    Hello! I have been off on monday and Tuesday, Does any one ride the 23 in highland park and know if it’s running? Also is elmgrove st and Kenyon st it’s regular stops during snow route? Thanks!

  • CeeCee November 23, 2010 (10:34 pm)

    I have to pick up my parents at SODO light rail station (from airport) and am north of admiral on California. Any suggestions to get to Lander in a 4wd? I’m still freaked out after last night but they can’t get a cab.

  • Kristina November 23, 2010 (10:34 pm)

    Kerry, I went up Madison right past the Nordstrom Tower today, no problem at all. (I was headed to the PolyClinic, but know the Arnold Pavillion/Nordstrom Tower better than I ever wanted to!) We arrived there around 12, and departed at 2:30, and it was no problem.

  • ad November 23, 2010 (10:42 pm)

    CeeCee, see my post above. Of course it has been a couple hours since my drive and it has probably become more icy…but I think you will be ok. Take the WSB, exit/left on First (it has patches but no traffic), take right on Jackson and up to the station.

    ps: To clarify, that’s exactly where drove to/from!

  • BobL November 23, 2010 (10:56 pm)

    Not to rub salt in a wound, so to speak, but I just picked up my son from UPS in Tacoma and the neighborhood streets there are plowed, bare and sanded. Plows and sand trucks were patrolling the bridges and ramps- kudos to the managers and crews there. Here in Seattle, we should have higher standards, but we get the government we are willing to accept.

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