West Seattle school-attendance-area map “mistake” disclosed

Back from School Board rep Steve Sundquist‘s Q/A session on the proposed school-attendance-area maps, arranged by the PTSAs of Schmitz Park, Lafayette and Alki Elementary Schools, and there was one big headline: Sundquist says the maps for West Seattle were WRONG out of the gate when announced last week – the Denny Middle School and Chief Sealth High School attendance areas ARE supposed to be, and will be redrawn to be, exactly the same, which in turn will affect some elementary boundaries. The divergence led to questions in comments on our coverage last week, from people puzzled by why Denny/Sealth would not have the same attendance area, since they will be sharing a campus soon. (Sundquist said Superintendent Dr. Maria Goodloe-Johnson had announced this error – and one other, affecting part of North Seattle – at last week’s School Board meeting, the night after the proposed maps were made public, but we can’t find any mention of this online anywhere, and he acknowledged tonight that the error hadn’t been explained on the district website yet – in fact, the Sealth website still points to our original story with the two now-revealed-to-be-erroneous maps.) Nonetheless, Sundquist urged attendees – who peaked at more than 70 during tonight’s meeting in the Schmitz Park gym – to provide feedback to the district based on how the proposed maps appear now (newassign@seattleschools.org, and those 2 meetings coming up in West Seattle later this week). And there was plenty of feedback tonight on other components of the plan – (added 6:39 am) – read on:

Also from the meeting:

*Sundquist said “early feedback” was “what we expected,” particularly complaints that families are being “pushed into” neighborhood schools that they don’t think “are good enough.” (Several people who voiced questions/complaints at the meeting said they had purchased their homes in a specific neighborhood so they could be close to specific schools, and now they are finding themselves facing assignment to schools other than those in which they were interested.)

*It is a “dynamic process … the maps WILL change,” he insisted, even beyond the fixing of the aforementioned errors. Several attendees said they hoped the boundaries could better reflect natural neighborhood boundaries, which Sundquist acknowledged had not been much addressed in the process thus far.

*The issue of “sibling grandfathering” has yet to be worked out and will be among the “transition issues.” Several parents voiced concerns about not only siblings that already were in the school system, but also siblings that hadn’t entered school yet – could the district consider them too? All to be worked out, Sundquist reiterated, but he said the answers are not expected to be available until December or January.

*He reiterated what was said at the School Board work session a week ago where the maps were made public, that the Spectrum gifted program will be available at Madison starting this fall, and that they intend to have at least one elementary school offering Spectrum in each “middle school service area,” which means one of the schools feeding Denny will add it (Lafayette, a Madison feeder, is currently the only West Seattle elementary school where Spectrum is available; one parent asked if the north end might get another Spectrum program too, since Lafayette – which has more than 500 students this year – fills up fast).

*Only three high schools in the city are “option schools” with no geographic reference area – The Center School at Seattle Center, Cleveland, and NOVA.

*A few parents who say they’re now in the Denny/Sealth reference area expressed vocal displeasure with the impending co-location of the middle- and high-school campuses, saying 6th graders and 12th graders shouldn’t be on the same campus together. “We hashed that all out as a community a couple years ago,” Sundquist explained calmly. “Yes, but we weren’t GOING to those schools then!” one woman shouted in reply.

*Why wasn’t the Denny/Sealth map error fixed immediately and something new distributed since last week? someone asked. Not that easy, Sundquist indicated, adding that the district was afraid it would wind up with a “version control problem” if they printed something new, with suddenly multiple versions of the map in circulation. So isn’t West Seattle at a disadvantage, then, if the new maps won’t be seen till the work session where they are released on November 3rd? “I think there will be enough time to give feedback,” Sundquist insisted.

*Another concern was reminiscent of one voiced during the Denny-Sealth process, where you may recall community concerns – and district acknowledgment – that there hadn’t been a lot of public engagement before the shared-campus decision was made and moving forward. (See this WSB report from 2007.) At this meeting, there was frustration that “there seems to be no collaboration with parents BEFORE these decisions were made, like the start-time change.” Sundquist agreed the start-time-change process had been “a mess” and suggested this process, like that one, and like what was said about Denny-Sealth at the time, had come down to a time crunch. However, he said, here there’s still time for feedback, and for changes, with the assignment boundaries.

WHAT’S NEXT: Feedback in a multitude of ways (all listed here) including meetings. The “official” district meetings for feedback and Q/A on the plan are this Thursday (WSHS, 6:30 pm) and Friday (Denny IMS, 6:30 pm); plus, Steve Sundquist has two “neighborhood chats” coming up Oct. 21 (10 am @ Delridge Library) and 24th (10 am @ High Point Library). The revamped maps are to debut at a board work session Nov. 3 and be formally introduced during the board meeting Nov. 4; they also meet Oct. 21. And you can contact board members too – Sundquist encouraged participants last night to cc him on feedback – their info is all here. ADDED TUESDAY AFTERNOON: For those particularly concerned about the sibling issue, an online petition is circulating – find it here. ADDED TUESDAY EVENING: We asked Sundquist about plans to get word out about the map error:

As for communicating the map issue more widely, I did speak with district officials today. They plan to disseminate this information in a couple of different ways. One is that they plan to communicate a summary of the type of feedback Seattle Public Schools is receiving about the plan from across the city, and to specifically call out the West Seattle high school/middle school map issue in that document. They also plan to update their FAQ document with the information. I assume both of those will be published on the district website. I have also been told that they will disseminate specific information to West Seattle families, although I don’t yet know the timeline or form that communication will take.

We sent the same question to the district’s media liaisons, but have not yet received a reply.

39 Replies to "West Seattle school-attendance-area map "mistake" disclosed"

  • Lisa October 12, 2009 (9:58 pm)

    Was present at this meeting in which the map “mistake” was discussed. For those of you who are in the Fairmont Park/Seaview neighborhoods south of the junction, check the proposed maps for elementary/middle/high school on the Seattle Schools website. GET INVOLVED in the process if you are all of a sudden thrust into what was the old South Cluster–and your kids may have to go to Denny/Sealth, when you purchased a house based on them attending Madison/West Seattle. Mr. Sundquist stated that the “revised” map will be announced on November 3rd, presumably at a scheduled meeting at the John Stanford Center Auditorium in SoDo at 4 p.m.

  • Tom October 12, 2009 (10:47 pm)

    Hey there…. Some folks want to be in Denny/Sealth!

  • Lyann October 13, 2009 (12:55 am)

    I live in one of those neighborhoods and it makes no sense from a neighborhood perspective …. How do I get involved?

  • WSB October 13, 2009 (1:01 am)

    newassign@seattleschools.org – send your comments
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    Show up at one of the two community meetings later this week in West Seattle – Thurs. nite at WSHS, Fri. nite at Denny – both listed (with others around the city) here:
    http://www.seattleschools.org/area/newassign/communitymeetings.html
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    Find out if your PTA/PTSA is having a meeting about this – I won’t be able to check till tomorrow but Steve Sundquist said at this meeting that it was his “first,” which leads me to believe he may be speaking with other groups (we’ll post whatever we find out – he also has scheduled community chats on Oct. 21 and 24 per his website, right sidebar:
    http://www.sundquist4schools.com/
    )
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    There are a couple more links on the right side of this district page including a survey and postal-mail options:
    http://www.seattleschools.org/area/newassign/commenthome.html
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    Hope that helps for starters. There also are a couple of e-petitions going around and when I add to this story before the night is over, I will include those links too – TR

  • Suzanne October 13, 2009 (7:56 am)

    It’s sad that there are still so many people out there who don’t realize what great things are happening at Denny and Sealth.

  • huindekmi October 13, 2009 (8:35 am)

    I’m still not happy with the new areas. We live four blocks from Schmitz Park Elem, 8 blocks from Lafayette, and well over a mile from Alki. Any guess where my son is being assigned? Yeah. Alki.
    This is supposed to be a neighborhood school plan, yet we aren’t assigned to the schools in our neighborhood. Moronic.

  • ws parent October 13, 2009 (9:50 am)

    Maria Goodloe-Johnson actually said something different at the last school board meeting than what Sundquist told parents. (the meeting is on tape on the SPS’s School Board website @ 71 minutes, part 1)
    MGJ: We also know we need to look again at the feeder patterns as well as the boundaries for West Seattle.
    also: These maps have already been widely distributed. These maps won’t change at this point.
    (later- updated maps will be presented at the Nov. 3rd worksession)

    So, MJG did not actually commit to any changes, just that “we need to look again.”
    Parents, you need to get involved & voice your opinions!

    Not only are the feeder patterns currently proposed out of alignment for the Denny-Sealth kids, equitable access to rigorous programs needs to be addressed also in both of our WS high schools.

    Don’t kid yourselves- north end WS kids will have very little chance in accessing Sealth’s honors & IB programs. If only 10% “choice seats” are seat aside at Sealth for lottery, that’s approx. 100 kids for all 4 grades, or only 25 seats at the entering 9th grade level. Take away for sibling priority, and very few seats will be left for all the SE and north WS kids who want to attend.

    Last year, according to the district’s website, 196 kids from “WS north” attended Sealth, and 193 from “central, S & SE areas” attended Sealth. That’s almost 400 kids who potentially would be looking to get the 100 seats available in set-aside “choice” seats (actually less, if the district allows sibling preference at the HS level).

  • pam October 13, 2009 (9:50 am)

    At the meeting last night Sundquist said that if we have issues that we would like the school board to consider, it is best to form a group to get the message across… here is an online petition regarding the grandfathering of siblings. Please consider signing this petition (even if it doesn’t directly impact your family) and pass it along to others. Thank you!

    http://www.petitiononline.com/cgi-bin/mlk?http://www.keepourkidstogether.org

  • Dave October 13, 2009 (10:13 am)

    Hey Suzanne,

    Where should I look to find the great things? I don’t want to have to move, but I’m not confident of the schools’ quality.

  • luckymom30 October 13, 2009 (12:20 pm)

    I would like to know how many families really are happy with the combined campus of Denny/Sealth, our daughter will be just 10 1/2 when she enters middle school. I am not thrilled with the combined campus. Also, since we do not live the required distance from school how will she get to school? Can I be assured she will be safe? Many of her classmates will be in the same situation transportation wise.

  • Suzanne October 13, 2009 (12:38 pm)

    Dave,
    I suggest you speak with parents who have kids there or speak directly to the kids. It might be good to drop by or go to some of the events they have to get a feel for the schools.
    My daughter just graduated from Denny and my son is currently there. My daughter actually qualified for APP but we really believe in neighborhood schools, so we had her go to Denny in the Spectrum program and we were very pleased. My son is also in Spectrum and is really enjoying Denny.
    I love the diversity in the school – students as well as staff – and everyone really celebrates that diversity. Most of the teachers have been excellent with only a couple I had some issues with, but you will find this at any school. I can’t say enough about their incredible music program under the direction of Marcus Pimpleton. He gets amazing results from these kids – most of whom do not take private lessons.
    This is the first year for Denny as an International School and I’m just learning about what that actually means for my son. The teachers now have the ability to teach outside of the box and to teach history from the perspective of different cultures. How refreshing!
    My daughter is now a freshman at Sealth and absolutely loves it. I don’t have as much information yet about the school since this is just the beginning of her first year, but we’ve been very happy thus far. It is just as diverse as Denny and from what I’ve seen thus far, they also make an effort to celebrate that diversity. I am really excited about the IB program they have which offers a more rigorous curriculum for those who want it.
    I think people are still remembering the Denny and Sealth from several years ago, but the schools have really changed and we love both of them.

  • cclarue October 13, 2009 (12:39 pm)

    Dave, Denny and Sealth both have the more rigorous educational programs. I was not thrilled with Denny before my daughter started there this fall but she is in spectrum there and getting straight a’s so for us she needs this spectrum program imagine how easy gen ed classes would be for her or these many other spectrum kids. Madison needs to have this available to their kids as well. I am quite sure there are a ton of bright and very bored and unchallenged kids at madison. As far as general school quality the teachers are what make the school, not the building or the zip code.

  • WSB October 13, 2009 (12:41 pm)

    Side note re: Sealth educational programs – we are adding this to the calendar but just got an announcement of information night on their IB program:
    .
    International Baccalaureate Information Night

    November 3rd, 2009

    7-8:30 PM

    Chief Sealth @ Boren

    5950 Delridge Way, Seattle, WA 98106

    Looking for a great local college-prep experience? Check out the
    internationally recognized IB program at Chief Sealth

    Learn from students and staff what makes IB unique including an:

    . Introduction to IB education

    . Overview of courses offered 9-12

    . Panel of current IB students

    . Opportunity to see the curriculum and meet the teachers

    Complimentary dessert buffet

    Prospective students and families welcome!!

  • tom October 13, 2009 (12:48 pm)

    Something is fishy. Go look up the Student Assignment Plan document on the District web site. On pg 7,it explicitly states that elementary school areas are combined to create geographically based on middle school areas. Then it states ‘There are not (sic) feeder patterns from middle to high school. Each attendance area high school has its own geographic attendance area.’.It’s even underlined!

    Now a board member says all of Denny’s area will attend Sealth??? We just need to wait to see the real map until 2 weeks before it’s approved??

    I’ll be getting involved!

  • Charlie Mas October 13, 2009 (12:54 pm)

    This may be obvious, but it should still be explicitly stated:

    If Denny and Sealth have matching attendance areas, then Madison and West Seattle High School will have matching attendance areas as well.

    The attendance areas for the elementary schools will have to be adjusted so the service area is right-sized for the middle school.

  • Tom October 13, 2009 (12:58 pm)

    Something is fishy. Go look up the Student Assignment Plan document on the District web site. http://www.seattleschools.org/area/newassign/final_assign_plan_June17_Cleveland.pdf

    On pg 7,it explicitly states that elementary school areas are combined to create geographically based on middle school areas. Then it states ‘There are not (sic) feeder patterns from middle to high school. Each attendance area high school has its own geographic attendance area.’.’Not’ is even underlined!

    Now a board member says all of Denny’s area will attend Sealth??? We just need to wait to see the real map until 2 weeks before it’s approved??

    I’ll be getting involved!

  • WSB October 13, 2009 (1:03 pm)

    Tom – Steve S said very specifically that West Seattle was supposed to be an exception to that policy, because of the Denny/Sealth co-location. Nonetheless, I have an inquiry out to him AND to district public affairs to follow up on what he said last night.- TR

  • Yeah-me October 13, 2009 (1:25 pm)

    I am one of the parents concerned about the middle school/high school patterns.

    First, I want to say it is not that I do not want my child to go to Denny. What I do NOT want is my child to leave all of her friends in her Madison-feeder school; go to Denny for three years; and then get moved back north to WS High.

    I was at the meeting last night and this was a very big issue — but I do not think it is about whether or not Denny is a good school. I live 1.4 miles from Madison and 4.3 miles from Denny. I want my child to go to Madison because we live close to it and her friends will go there.

    After listening to everything last night and hashing over the details with other parents, I think this article is mistaken when they interpeted Steve’s comments to be “the Denny Middle School and Chief Sealth High School attendance areas ARE supposed to be, and will be redrawn to be, exactly the same, which in turn will affect some elementary boundaries.”

    I believe what will happen is that the HIGH SCHOOL lines will be redrawn to match the middle and elementary school lines — not the other way around.

    I guess we will all wait and see! I encourage you to get involved!

  • yumpears October 13, 2009 (2:06 pm)

    I was at the meeting last night too and from what Steve said I took it to mean the lines will be redrawn (as the WSB article states). I did not understand it to mean “the HIGH SCHOOL lines will be redrawn to match the middle and elementary school lines”.

  • pam October 13, 2009 (2:53 pm)

    This is just venting, but I am so frustrated that they took 3 years to make this plan and when they sent it out to the community it had a mistake. WHAT!?!?!?! This issue of lines for Denny/Sealth (although important) is such a distraction from other parts of the plan that may need our attention, it has caused so much worry and confusion, I can’t believe they won’t provide a map without MISTAKES. I don’t care if it causes “version confusion” and makes a headache for the district- GET IT RIGHT PEOPLE. It is so disrespectful to the families who are involved.
    Okay sorry but I just had to get that off my chest.

  • zero-to-life in West Seattle October 13, 2009 (3:37 pm)

    I have one child at Sealth and one child at West Seattle. Both of them went to Madison MS. We live right near Sealth, but they do not offer French as a language so my second child elected to attend WSHS (which likely would not be possible in the future).
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    I was not a fan of the co-location plan. In fact, I devoted alot of energy to the fight against it two years ago. Time will tell if it is a big draw or a big turn off to this community.
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    My child, overall has been happy at Sealth. There are multiple opportunities to “fit in” no matter your individual style, many clubs and events to participate in. I don’t get the sense that there is a “ruling class” at the school, and that is nice. My child has had excellent teachers and done well in classes prepping for IB, although he opted for Running Start instead. In terms of safety, neither my child nor I have had reasons for concern.
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    The only gripe I have had with Sealth, and the main reason that I, as a parent have “checked-out” from the school is what I would best classify as the “my way or the highway” attitude of the principal. Please know that this is only my opinion, but it is based on two big events that have happened at the school in the time I have been part of the community.
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    I was not happy that Mr Boyd did not come out in support of the teachers, staff, students and majority of the Sealth parents during the co-location debates. At the time, I thought perhaps it was due to pressure from the district and perhaps that was the case. Nonetheless, this was disheartening to me.
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    The second issue happened just as school was ending last year. The Sealth Music Program has had the same department head for many years. She was popular amongst the students and the music programs were growing and strong. In early June the parents of the music students found out that she would no longer be instructing concert band and marching band, but would still teach Mariachi, choir and Jazz at both Denny and Sealth if she chose to stay. Meanwhile the music director from Denny would take over the marching and concert bands for Sealth as well as keeping the corresponding bands at Denny. This was not Ms Meyer’s choice, but a “take it or leave it deal” (as in take this new job or leave this job). There was no discussion with the Music Boosters (the parent fundraising/support arm of the marching band) and all we got was an emotional meeting where we got to voice are opinions (universally against, except for some Denny parents who showed up to our meeting) and get informed by Mr Boyd that it was his decision and that it was final. Our music program was a tight family of students, parents and instructor and we were forced apart by an administrative decision. There were alot of tears shed by students and parents alike at this meeting. The students had even started a group on Facebook “save Chief Sealth Band”. I personally do not think it is necessarily a good thing for a musician to have the same instructor for 7 years in a row (6-12th grade) but that’s my opinion.
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    No school is perfect, but I think it is important for people in charge to at least PRETEND to listen to the stakeholders even if their mind is already made up. This goes for the district leaders as well. Before this happened I had no idea that a popular teacher in good standing could have her entire department turned around by the whim of a principal. Now I know differently.

  • luckymom30 October 13, 2009 (4:07 pm)

    I would like our child to attend Denny to stay with her friends but again the combined campus makes me nervous, she will be 10 1/2 among 15, 16, 17 and 18 yr olds.

    Not saying all middle and high schoolers are bad but I don’t feel that mixing the middle and high schoolers is a good idea. Please remind me why these schools were combined?

  • zero-to-life in West Seattle October 13, 2009 (4:19 pm)

    I really cannot tell the REAL reason why (I still don’t understand it). Some of the district arguements were cost savings (for example having only on boiler for both schools), alignment of curriculum theoretically helping students advance from middle school to high school and that Chief Sealth would get benefits (a new boiler) that it otherwise would not get until possibly much later, if at all (future BEX). Really, to me it is a huge experiment since this has never been done in the SPSD. There was also alot of district pressure to get going on the project due to money already spent on planning it and “increasing construction costs” (which ironically, due to the economic downturn is no longer the case). I would recommend you research “Denny/Sealth” on this blog and you will get more information than you probably wanted about this battle (and it really was a battle). I think you will find links to the Q/A page from the meetings the district had especially interesting.

  • luckymom30 October 13, 2009 (4:50 pm)

    Thank you Zero-to-life I will start researching.

  • zero-to-life in West Seattle October 13, 2009 (6:23 pm)

    Despite my initial reservations, I really hope this co-location is a huge success. I live in this neighborhood, and I’d really love to see it become a “crown-jewel”. I think with parent involvement, it may.

  • WSB October 13, 2009 (6:41 pm)

    Re: Denny/Sealth – you don’t even have to use the search box – it has its own category (archive, newest to oldest) in the categories list on the sidebar. Meantime, I have just added to the main story, with the reply I got from Steve Sundquist re: plans to communicate the map error – TR

  • zero-to-life in West Seattle October 13, 2009 (7:18 pm)

    luckymom30, you’re welcome! Good luck with your research and decision.

  • Valkyrie October 13, 2009 (7:21 pm)

    We, the Sealth staff, found out in August, 2006 at a Camp Long retreat. Irene Stewart was there to break the news, along with John Boyd. We were literally in shock. We were told that Stewart brought the proposal to Raj Manhas, although she has denied it on this blog.

    The hand-picked design team from Sealth and Denny were wisked off to New York City and Boston to observe co-located schools with similar demograhics. None of the schools visited were like Sealth or Denny. One was a charter school, and another hand-picked their students. The District’s case for co-locating the schools became weaker and weaker as time went on.

    I believe that as early as the August retreat the co-location was a fait accompli.

    zero-to-life, you are completely correct in your perceptions about what has been going on with personnel decisions. Last week at a staff meeting, the long-time family life and cooking teacher was told that her program is ending, and her classroom will be used by the Confucius Institute. All of the school’s electives are disappearing.

    You are right, it is an experiment. Let’s hope it doesn’t blow up in the test tube!

  • Lorelee October 13, 2009 (8:04 pm)

    I live 2.5 (flat) blocks from Lafayette and 8.5 blocks from Schmitz park (hills and arterial in the way). I do not understand our assignment to schmitz given proximity and walkability. The map for lafayette is suspicious- seems to outline the most expensive neighborhoods (north admiral and belvidere). I don’t even have school age kids and this makes me MAD!

  • TIm October 13, 2009 (9:07 pm)

    We have 2 at Schmitz (.5 miles, flat, no busy crossings) with 2 more kids in the next few years. Lafayette would be .7 miles, also flat, crossing only 49th. We will be assigned to Alki, .9 miles, huge hill, walking along and across Admiral. In other words, we wouldn’t walk, we would drive every last day for 10 years. I just don’t think we would do that. Frankly, despite so many other reasons we live in Seattle, we would move to the suburbs. Reliably and historically good and stable middle and high schools, decision making that doesn’t shift with the winds, and funding that doesn’t allow buildings to disintegrate. I mean really. Send us to a school further than two others? If this remains the answer, it really would be the last straw.

  • Kazoo October 13, 2009 (9:16 pm)

    Luckymon30 your daughter was an early entrance child it sounds. I hope before you decided to enroll your child early you thought about the age differences you were going to encounter in Middle School and High School. You sound like you are just coming to the realization that your child will be so young mixed with kids a lot older. Middle school will be a breeze wait until high school hugh difference between a 13 year old and kids that are turning 18. Which ever school you decide is the best fit you will still encounter the age difference. Good luck to you and your child.

  • luckymom30 October 14, 2009 (9:32 am)

    Hi Kazoo, no our child was not allowed early entry to elementary school, but did skipped 1st grade after just 3 months at the recommendations of her 1st grade teacher, and us. After just 3 weeks of 1st grade her teacher asked me for permission for her to join the 2nd graders in reading, then 2 1/2 months later we all decided it was best for her to join 2nd grade for all subjects. Our child finished up 3rd grade last year at the top of the class and is challenging her 4th grade teacher because once again is at the top of her class in math, reading, and writing.

    We knew that our child would be one of the youngest in middle school but did not know they would be on the same campus as children in high school. If our child stays on track they will enter middle school at age 10 1/2, finish middle school at 13 1/2 and graduate high school at age 17.

    Other than her learn abilities the other reason she was moved up a grade was because she is more mature than the average 9 year old and can interact with everyone whatever their age may be.

    Every teacher our child has had since preschool to now 4th grade can not believe she is the youngest in the class and has blown away every teacher with her learning abilities. Just yesterday I was greeted by her 4th grade teacher saying you know you have a great kid, wow! What a nice way to start the day!

  • Kristina October 14, 2009 (12:24 pm)

    According to MapQuest: We are 1.6 miles from Madison and 2.7 miles from Denny. The current map shows us at Denny. We are 1.7 miles from West Seattle high, and 2.7 miles from Chief Sealth, and though the map currently shows us at West Seattle, I fear that the mistake includes us (in Seaview) and we’d actually be sent to Chief Sealth. I have contacted the district via email to clarify the actual map lines, and not received an answer. This is a disaster, and I’m really unhappy about it at the moment.

  • Heather October 14, 2009 (9:21 pm)

    Seaview seems to be the neighborhood with the mapping issue – Gatewood, Denny, then West Seattle High? I’m 1.3 miles from Gatewood, 1.3 miles from Schmitz Park, and 1.3 miles from Madison. We are farthest away from Denny/Sealth – almost 3 miles. Why does this make sense to Seattle Public Schools? Also, why in the world would the initial maps outline the area between Alaska and Hudson (N to S) and 49th and 35th (E to W) as going to ALKI? Yes, 35th and Alaska would be going to Alki – I don’t think there is an elementary school that is further away than Alki to this area! Obvious issues like this that make me think that absolutely no thought was put into this new mapping.

  • pam October 15, 2009 (11:43 am)

    We are in the area between alaska and hudson, and I have to say that although the new boundary would be splitting our family between two elementary schools, I am happy with Alki and I think it’s a great school. We walk down Jacobson to the beach often, and it doesn’t feel like a stretch to imagine our family as part of the Alki community.

  • yumpears October 15, 2009 (12:09 pm)

    We are in the area between Alaska and Hudson (on 47th) and we were assigned to Alki last year (waitlisted to Schmitz Park). We decided to go with Alki and we love it! Our second will start there next year, so the odd map is great for us!

  • TK October 18, 2009 (2:19 am)

    Yeah, I was pretty PO’ed too. According to the map my preschoolers were going to have to go to Highland Park Elementary when we’re actually closer to Sanislo , I told my husband that I would foreclose on our house before I let our kids go to Highland park. I guess that’s what I get for buying a house in the “ghetto.” Ugh…

  • CSMom October 18, 2009 (11:17 am)

    Zero-to-life, I am sorry that you choose to put your feelings about the CSHS band and principal in this thread about the student assignment plan, because I think it is pretty far off topic.

    But, I wanted to respond for those who might be reading this thread that your feelings on this issue are pretty much the exact opposite of mine, and the vast majority of the band parents that I know. I don’t know if you went to the game on Friday, but all I have heard all weekend long is how great the marching band was. Mr. Pimpleton is an enthusatic and wonderful teacher, and has managed to double the size of the marching band since taking over. According to my kid, most of the members of the Facebook page mentioned aren’t even Chief Sealth students. My kid and her friends are the happiest they ever have been in the years they have been involved in the band. And they are loving the community support that they have gotten at parades and games. I also think Mr. Boyd does a great job communicating with families. I got a letter about the band decision, explaining his reasons for the change. It was detailed and thoughtful, and was very complimentary of Ms. Meyer.

    I hope that rather than reading your post, people interested in the Chief Sealth band come to a game and judge for themselves.

  • Browns October 19, 2009 (8:40 am)

    I agree with CS Mom. Have heard nothing but good things about the band, all from band kids. Think my way or the high way reference was ironic, as that is the attitude of the prior band director to a T.

    I also have been nothing but happy with Mr. Boyd’s communication regarding decisions. He earned my respect with the way he handled the co-location. I appreciated that he stood by his convictions even when they weren’t popular. Leadership isn’t doing the popular thing, it is doing the right thing.

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