West Seattle Crime Watch: Followups on recent cases

Or should we say, cases and casings … Just spent some time on the phone with Detective Nick Bauer from the Southwest Precinct, and he provided updates on some recent cases reported here, as well as a new one for which police could use your eyes and ears:

First, the Admiral casings from last night. No arrests so far, and no specific information linking them to flyer distribution or anything else. Detective Bauer notes that it’s a textbook case of casing, though — knock on the door, if no one seems to be home, go around and look for a way to break in.

He’s also fairly sure that the “unusual doorknocker” from a week ago (first report here, followup here, second followup here) was a would-be burglar as well; he says now that people are fairly skeptical about solicitations for, say, magazine subscriptions, would-be burglars have to come up with some other excuse if and when you answer the door.

One recent burglary at 57th and Charlestown, he says, was preceded by someone claiming they were selling candy door-to-door. And that burglary, he says, was linked to the two reported in two reader reports last week — the second of which resulted in two arrests, thanks to alert neighbors calling 911 — now two juvenile suspects are in custody, according to Detective Bauer, suspected of at least three burglaries in West Seattle, and one in Seatac that one of the suspects said he’d been involved with earlier on the day of the arrests.

Another group of teenagers may be on the loose, though; he says police got a call last Saturday about three African-American boys, 16 or 17, bragging loudly on a bus that they had been breaking into places and had “hit the mother lode.” They got off the bus on Avalon and officers couldn’t find them, but Detective Bauer says they’d love to hear from anyone else who overhears burglary brags like that — call 911 when you hear or see something suspicious.

11 Replies to "West Seattle Crime Watch: Followups on recent cases"

  • MellyMel April 30, 2008 (5:47 pm)

    I am dispirited even when I hear about burglery arrests. I am glad the cops catch the baddies, but I believe most of these are “arrest and release” until a court date to hear the case. There isnt actually any deterrance going on until someone has ammassed such a huge record that they are jailed for significant time. I suppose that if I were arrested I would be thankful I could get out on bond until my case was heard. Still, when I read these reports, I feel like it is just a matter of time until I am robbed (again).

  • WestwoodWriter April 30, 2008 (6:57 pm)

    I think we’re seeing a rise in petty crimes and burglaries because the criminals are figuring out that there are no real consequences to their actions. I left my neighborhood Block Watch meeting last night feeling that the police were telling a large living room packed with concerned neighbors that the home or car burglary victim is usually to blame for the crime. If residents and citizens make the police officer’s job difficult, then they kinda refuse to do it. The Seattle Police are a colossal joke. I knew MORE about neighborhood statutes and S.M.C. noise complaints than the officer and community liason present. The police reps were also vague on any details about ongoing cases on the block. There was little or no prep work done on our block by the police. We learned that the police lost a key piece of evidence in the shooting across the street from my house last weekend. If I walk away from my neighborhood block watch meeting feeling like I need to buy a gun, bar my windows and build an 8 foot fence, I think that we all really need to examine what we’re paying the police for because I don’t know what they’re doing besides writing speeding tickets on every steep hill (duh!), community outreach (lock yer doors, folks!), and paperwork (hmmm, we can’t seem to find that particular piece of evidence). If you are not in the process of being murdered, good luck getting the police to show up. And, if you are being murdered by more than 2 or 3 people then be prepared to WAIT until TWO cars are available. There are usually about FIVE cars patrolling West Seattle and South Park on weekend nights. The dispatcher in the 911 center downtown makes the decision of what is and s not a priority while I’m being stabbed to death by the recidivist burglars who broke into my home (again). I should say that I was mildly buoyed by the number of neighbors who showed up to the meeting. Still, the number of incidences of break-ins, car prowls, drug deals, and window-shaking parties rise and rise.

  • Bill John April 30, 2008 (8:36 pm)

    I dislike the people that continue to “dis” the cops! Lets learn a lesson here, WE ARE LUCKY WE HAVE A police department that respond to these calls! Try living in the county, try living on the east coast!? These cops do a great job! I’m always surprised how many and how quick a cop will show. Just 2months ago it took only 15 min!!! For a cop to come and look at my wife’s damaged car that was hit over the weekend! In Auburn, Renton, etc you will need to file an ONLINE report, they won’t even show up! SPD was here in 15 min! Just 3 nights ago I was woken up to 6 police cars outside my place, they were out on foot and had a police dog looking for criminals. What a response! Wait for two cops if you are being murdered, come on! Ever heard of officer safety? I’m not even gonna go there… Lets talk about the courts. WE ELECT Judges! Go elect someone else, most of the Judges have been serving for 15-20years, hire someone else if you don’t like what they are doing. But then again, think about what they have to deal with. King County Jail is CLOSED to all misdemeanor offenses in 2011. So yea, call KING 5 and GET JESSE! Maybe he can help or we can waste more money on the trees, or street cars, or hmmm… a no plastic bag campaign, or bike lanes? People need to realize that crime is going to get worse in this State because of our laws or lack of. Do you realize that if you have a DUI warrant out of Court and lets say you are released from prison after serving your time, they won’t even send you back to jail to serve you on that warrant? No! They release people who have active warrants! Do you realize we have relaxed laws and felony offenders move here because of it? Just stop criticizing the darn cops, they do a great job! Help change laws so the cops have something to work with. And stop the belly aching, you feel something isn’t right, call 911.

  • Joe April 30, 2008 (8:46 pm)

    I too was disenchanted in our May neighborhood meeting. We presented info during the meeting that we received from public records that surprised the police. They have a disjointed tracking system and hand cases to the detectives without a methodical thought process. Our detective was unaware our street had 7 burgularies the same day. In addition, I also agree there needs to be consequences for their actions or they will keep offending. Our job is to keep fighting back and diligently watching out for each other.

  • Todd April 30, 2008 (10:24 pm)

    I read a year ago or so that a poster had an officer at their block watch meeting. They all witnessed a drug deal across the street and according to the poster, the officer said to write a letter to the home owner……………………………….

  • amused May 1, 2008 (7:04 am)

    The City of Seattle is more interested in investigating officers than investigating criminals. Don’t believe it? Why is the Office of Professional Accountability staff bigger than the Southwest Precinct staff for follow-up investigations? The new contract with the Seattle Police Officers’ Guild included the 29-points as recommended by the ‘blue ribbon panel’. Yet another reason why Officers don’t care and don’t do anything. It is easier to do nothing and not get into trouble rather than do something and attract the liberal wrath of the Seattle P-I and the OPA.

  • fish May 1, 2008 (9:35 am)

    More of a quick note, as mentioned above I do believe most of the officers really do care, I know for a fact their hands are tied in many ways by our wonderful mayor. As of two weeks ago they were still waiting for an official contract but you don’t hear about that on the news. If you want change, vote for it. If we keep voting in the same judges, mayors, etc, nothing will ever change. November isn’t far off, so get out and make your vote count. As for police response, I have had a couple of issues and the police have responded lightning quick.

  • baba nulu May 1, 2008 (10:19 am)

    Great anecdotes, “Bill John.” But why are we LUCKY WE HAVE a police department that responds? That is their JOB. That is their sworn duty and obligation. We, the people, contract and pay them to respond. A law enforcement career is nowhere near the most dangerous job while offering stability (no lay-offs with economic downturns) with the often taken early retirement benefits that have largely disappeared from non public service jobs. We may not have enough officers but their job remains the same. Maybe it is not the best use of police resources “for a cop to come and look at my wife’s damaged car that was hit over the weekend.” They could be out enforcing the laws rather than responding to a ding (your wife’s car, not you).
    Apples and oranges, “amused”. Does the OPA have a larger staff at the Southwest Precinct than the Southwest Precinct staff for follow-up investigations? Of course not. The OPA staff “amused” refers to is for all of the SPD, the whole city. The Southwest Precinct likely has more staff for maintenance than “follow up investigators”. Does that mean they are more interested in a clean station than investigating criminals. If Joe is a cop he knows why the OPA exists. If you have ever had an unfortunate negative interaction with a Police Officer, you would certainly appreciate the OPA’s presence. Cops commit the same crimes as the general populace – murder, rape, extortion, spouse abuse, drunken driving, drug abuse, pornography, theft, lying under oath. You name it, a cop has done it and been convicted of it. They are real people just like you and me.

  • Peanut May 1, 2008 (1:23 pm)

    Not to superficially distract from the conversation here but I think some of you will find that a little paragraph structure goes a long way towards making your arguments easier to read.

  • DK May 2, 2008 (12:16 am)

    To “baba nulu” & “westwoodwriter”….you two obviously have issues or have had issues with police in general. While the issues you have with local law enforcement may be legit to you, you really should find a way to get over yourself!

    As an older citizen, I find it sad how todays generation tends to make everything a “me” issue, “a blame everyone for my problems” citizenry and culture that exists today everywhere I look. Being a victim of crime is obviously not something we want to be, but you must be reasonable and not blame the police for every single bad thing that happens in our world. For some reason, people in Seattle tend to do that quite a bit.

    I have had my share of personal encounters with police over the last 40 yrs…mostly traffic and parking tickets…and a few recent encounters lately as well. Last year, I was the victim of a burglary. Two detectives from the new precinct on Delridge came out and interviewed me and inspected my home. They were very courteous and professional and greatly put my mind at ease. Six months later, I received a call from one of the detectives and he informed me that he had located some of my stolen items and made arrangements to have them returned. I had all but forgotten about the break in, but obviously those detectives hadn’t. I for one am greatful!

  • Random Neighbor May 4, 2008 (7:36 am)

    I can confirm that we are lucky to have the police show up. Yes it’s true we pay them to show up….but when I lived in Detroit, I ended up leaving a very serious car accident after waiting for 3 hours for a police officer. In Detroit…nobody’s coming.

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