Development dirt: Where does it all go?

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(October 2008 photo by WSB contributing photojournalist Christopher Boffoli)
Driving by the Fauntleroy Place (Whole Foods) project daily, we started pondering a goofy little question once major excavation began: When you dig a big hole like that, what happens to the dirt? Since we (and other small news organizations around Puget Sound) work with the student journalists at the University of Washington News Lab, we offered them the assignment. Read on, to see how the answer turned out to be not as simple as you might think:

By Madelyn Fairbanks
UW News Lab

We all become scientists when we absentmindedly wonder about our surroundings. Take the law of displacement — for example, the Fauntleroy Place excavation. Where does all that dirt go?

According to Eric Radovich, spokesperson for development firm BlueStar, the company subcontracted with Aero Construction, whose trucks ran up to 300 truckloads of dirt a day during the excavation.

They recently finished digging, Radovich said, after having hauled more than 100,000 cubic yards of dirt out of the gaping hole at 39th Avenue Southwest and Southwest Alaska Street.

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(WSB photo from earlier in the excavation, September 2008)
Dan McTaggart, a development manager for BlueStar, said the trucks were heading south to the city of Sumner, and as far as he’s concerned, they can do with it what they want.

It’s “good dirt,” said McTaggart, explaining that it is dense, compacts well, and has a high level of sand, and it is of good value to actually be sold. This is unlike a previous project that yielded mostly clay-dense dirt, which, McTaggart said, is mostly useless.

Lee Anderson, the Parks/Facilities manager for the city of Sumner, wondered if there might not have been a better use for it closer to Seattle. “That’s a lot of wear and tear on the roads,” said Anderson, who added that he likes to be green-minded in his job at Sumner.

Radovich of BlueStar said that to his knowledge, the dirt was being used to fill up an “old gravel pit in Sumner” for a new park. Anderson couldn’t confirm any plans for any parks in Sumner. It’s possible that they’re depositing the dirt somewhere in the area, Anderson said, and the Community Development department at Sumner would be the people who would know where it was going. However, calls to the Community Development department were not returned.

The company that ran the trucks, Aero Construction, declined to give specific information as to where the dirt was going. A woman who preferred to go unnamed said that “it’s a challenge finding homes for dirt,” and that the Fauntleroy Place dirt has gone “here and there.” Aero’s PR representative did not return phone-call requests.

Regardless of where the dirt ended up, construction moves along. The excavation is making space for a four-level parking garage with more than 500 spaces; of those, about half will be for Whole Foods customers specifically. In addition to Whole Foods, Fauntleroy Place will house a new Hancock Fabrics store, with close to 200 apartments over the retail spaces. BlueStar expects the development to be complete in early 2010.
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MADELYN FAIRBANKS is a student in the University of Washington Department of Communication News Laboratory.

22 Replies to "Development dirt: Where does it all go?"

  • dirty nulu November 11, 2008 (11:19 am)

    Did anyone check the permit/plans?
    The Seattle DPD requires that the location of soils that are hauled away be listed on the permit. We were recently required to truck clay soil out to a Maple Valley designated receiver, at great cost.

  • WSB November 11, 2008 (11:29 am)

    Not listed in the specific excavation-related building permit on this list:
    http://web1.seattle.gov/DPD/permitstatus/default.aspx?a=3922,SW,ALASKA,ST,

    But I’m thinking that further insightful comments will frame Development Dirt, The Followup. When offering News Lab the chance to try to chase this down, I envisioned someone revealing a massive man-made mountain out in a rural area somewhere.

  • MargL November 11, 2008 (11:54 am)

    It’s interesting they would decline comment about where the dirt is going… unless it’s going somewhere it shouldn’t?

  • Celeste17 November 11, 2008 (12:09 pm)

    Is there a blog for Sumner? Maybe we could post the question to them to see if anyone has seen dirt piles randomly appear?

  • WSB November 11, 2008 (12:18 pm)

    Good thought, but the only one I could find has had two posts in six months …

  • MargL November 11, 2008 (1:36 pm)

    Somebody with time on their hands (e.g. – no 2 year olds at home) and a hankering to drive to Sumner could follow one of the trucks and find out where they dump their load. :-)

  • elevated concern November 11, 2008 (2:04 pm)

    When does the crane show up?

  • the_bridge_to_somewhere November 11, 2008 (2:06 pm)

    Nice work, Madelyn!
    What a strange society it is that digs up hundreds of tons of dirt to make room for a parking garage, only to truck it via traffic-clogged freeways to create a park in a small town 36 miles away.

  • P November 11, 2008 (2:49 pm)

    how about the question of where does the dirt come from, and the only place that comes to mind is the airport 3rd runway. That was a LOT of dirt!

  • Brandon November 11, 2008 (3:30 pm)

    Don’t you mean the dirt was “deposited” for the 3rd runway? I think they were begging for the fill.

    http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19980422&slug=2746524

    It’s very curious that they would be so evasive about what sounds like a very innocent question….bad dirt? Toxic? Sediment drift from gas stations, oil change retailers, or auto retailers?

  • WSB November 11, 2008 (3:41 pm)

    Having asked thousands of people thousands of questions over the years … I do find that sometimes people are hesitant to discuss seemingly benign things, while others will just drop controversial/scandalous bombshells to anyone who asks. So it’s really hard to tell WHY a question, asked, isn’t always answered. But we do believe it’s important to say “we asked, and here’s what happened (or didn’t happen)” … as the quote on our About page goes, news is a process, not a product. I may have to drive to Sumner some dry day to look for gravel pits/piles!

  • Brandon November 11, 2008 (3:47 pm)

    300 loads a day is a lot of traffic. A gravel pit is a good stop for it. I was surprised to hear it was usable, I seem to hit clay 6 inches deep :)

  • dirty nulu November 11, 2008 (4:33 pm)

    Construction projects are required to have calculations for dirt removal and the dirt’s destinations on the cover sheet of the permit plans. These are available for viewing at DPD’s plans center.
    Of course it would be cheaper and more sensible not to dig out the parking garage.
    But an above ground parking structure would be opposed by the public and would not allow retail and housing above due to height restrictions. Zoning changes and property values lead directly to excavated parking. Imagine the community’s howls if Whole Foods proposed turning all of the old Hulling properties into asphalt parking lots for their customers. But that would be far more costly than digging and exporting the site’s dirt.

  • B November 11, 2008 (4:45 pm)

    We live very close to this project and became pretty familiar with the soil conditions. From everything I saw the dirt is clean! (sorry, could pass that up).

    I think WSB has it right that sometimes people hesitate for benign reason. Given the volume of dirt maybe it was going to different places on different days and it gets hard to keep track of where it was all going.

  • WSB November 11, 2008 (5:50 pm)

    Got this in e-mail from Susan Kemp, who said she didn’t mind if I reposted as a comment:
    >>I saw that some of your readers were interested in where the big piles of dirt go, and that there were some comments about the Third Runway.
    I am a West Seattlite who works for a company (Hart Crowser) that provided geotechnical services on the Third Runway project as well as some other large projects that involved big quantities of soil. The Third Runway project required 16 million cubic yards of soil, which had to be uncontaminated because of nearby wetlands and creek.
    People who are interested should check out The Seattle Daily Journal of Commerce’s special issue on the Third Runway, which I believe will come out on November 20th.
    http://www.djc.com
    There is also information on the Port of Seattle’s
    website at
    http://www.portseattle.org/seatac/construction/thirdrunway.shtml.
    And we have an amazing picture of one of the mechanically stabilized earth walls at the
    Third Runway on our website at the top of our home page,
    http://www.hartcrowser.com

    Your readers are correct that it’s best to find an efficient way to reuse soil close by if possible. This greatly reduces the amount of trucking required, eliminates off-site disposal of the excavated “waste” soil, and eliminates the need to disturb an off-site quarry. Hart Crowser engineers have been able to accomplish this on
    many projects, such as using soil from the excavation of the WaMu tower to help create the Olympic Sculpture Park.
    A lot of behind-the-scenes thought and engineering goes into this, because the soil has to be right for the purpose it’s being used for, and environmental laws and regulations have to be followed.<< (again, that's from Susan Kemp at Hart Crowser)

  • Scott B. November 11, 2008 (7:41 pm)

    Material from an excavation that is not suitable for fill can be dumped at mined-out gravel pits for a fee. If the material can be used for fill, sometimes a site can be found where the owner wants fill. Usually there is no fee to dump there.
    Maybe Aero Const. just did not want to publicize the dumpsite(s) for competitive reasons: why let your competitors know where they might also be able to make a deal?

  • JEFF November 12, 2008 (10:12 am)

    IT’S ONLY DIRT! who cares where it goes and how much….how about your back yard…..

  • DALYDBL November 12, 2008 (11:45 am)

    Are there giant pumps to keep all of this stormwater from turning that hole into a giant mud pit? If not, I think a big mud-wrestling match should be had. Yeah! Also, I think the dirt should’ve been used to fill that gaping hole in Wallingford at Stone Way & 40th. From what I gathered (which was vague) a new QFC was being built there and during the final stage of excavation the water table caused the site to become unsuitable. I haven’t been by the site in at least 6 months, but it was just a big mud pit for over a year. Perhaps it has already been filled?

  • Near Alki November 12, 2008 (1:53 pm)

    Sometimes a person who does excavation for a living owns land that is a giant hole that needs to be filled in. Usually that land is in close proximity to where that person does most of his work. After a couple dozen years the hole is filled in, the land sold and the excavator has income towards his retirement. They will also keep their heavy equipment on the land when not is use. I’m not too sure if this practice is still “allowed” today, but a few sites in WS I’m familiar with are the property located at the end of Seola Beach Dr., the intersection of Roxbury and 37th and the ravine at 107th and 35th SW.
    PS-WS Blog…could a spel chek be added to the comment form?

  • westwood November 13, 2008 (12:26 am)

    Creative nearby uses for dirt are always a great idea for the environment. One of Sound Transit’s contractors on light rail in the Rainier Valley built four miles of the Chief Sealth bike trail on Beacon Hill with the fill dirt. They built a beautiful trail and still came out ahead by not hauling it out to the boonies.

  • Joetheplumber November 13, 2008 (1:16 pm)

    >>…how about your back yard….<<

    “how about OUR back yard”

    There, I fixed that for you Jeff.

    I think it was a pretty innocent observation that showed a lot of people were curious about, then shared and offered ideas. Its a social thing, not a hater thing.

  • WSB November 13, 2008 (1:25 pm)

    That’s exactly why we assigned and published this story – sheer curiosity, not any suspicion something fishy was going on. I’m glad to see I wasn’t the only person interested – when you run a news organization of any size, sometimes you run the risk that what you find interesting might spark a giant collective yawn, or worse. (And I’m sure our 6,500-plus articles/posts of the past almost-3 years have included plenty of yawners, no need to point out examples …)

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