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August 19, 2008 at 2:53 pm #633537
JoBParticipantWanted..
someone with light feet, joyful steps and an inspired kitchen to share JenV’s patch of West Seattle Heaven.
Good neighbor guaranteed:)
August 19, 2008 at 4:35 pm #633538
JenVMemberthanks for the bump, JoB- light steps not even necessary- as long as you’re not clog dancing at 1 am…..friendly ‘tude a must, and an appreciation for a funky space…and there will be an Obama sign in the front yard… ;)
August 19, 2008 at 8:40 pm #633539
AnonymousInactiveJenV – I’ve asked you to email me the address and you haven’t.
You’re not discriminating against Republicans, are you? That doesn’t seem too “friendly”.
August 19, 2008 at 8:43 pm #633540
JenVMemberNR, no offense, but I need someone upstairs that I can have a mutually respectful relationship with, as I have outlined before. I don’t want to be rude, but I don’t think that you and I would be good neighbors in that capacity.
August 19, 2008 at 10:05 pm #633541
JoBParticipantNew resident..
are you looking for a fight or a new place to live?
if you are looking for a new place to live, i might be of help since i have looked at nearly every rental house in West Seattle in the 1400 to 1800 range…
what are you looking for and how soon do you need it?
August 19, 2008 at 10:42 pm #633542
JoBParticipantNewResident..
i didn’t mean to sound so crabby…
there are several places in West Seattle right now that are for rent under $1400.. and many of them are places you might want to live.
there is a house just down the street from me that i know allows animals.. 2 bd.. 1200/mo.. call prestige rental.. the 8000 block or so on California.
Prestige rental seems to list a fair number of the lower priced little houses in West Seattle. there is a cute one up behind the old auto dealerships.. and if you don’t have animals, the choices get even larger.
i saw one on sunday that i doubt has been rented that had a cat condo built out back on a covered deck.. i thought i was an aviary.. and they are definately pet friendly…
anyway.. there are far too many places to rent here to be considering living upstairs from someone you are unlikely to get along with.
heck, i didn’t ask for the info because i could just imagine how charming JenV would find my dogs nightly wrestling matches overhead…
good relationships matter.. especially when youare living above someone.
August 20, 2008 at 3:21 am #633543
AnonymousInactiveUm, JoB, I appreciate you trying to be the (I guess) distraction, but I’m simply looking at all our options. Believe me, I know that there are several rentals throughout WS right now.
What I didn’t know was that it is okay for a tenant in a building to discriminate on the landlord’s behalf.
Again, I am looking at all options and trying to find OUR best option, so, no, I am not looking for a fight.
JenV – Real nice. Does your landlord know that you are eliminating potential tenants based on your own whims?
August 20, 2008 at 3:40 am #633544
JenVMemberNR- give it up. I don’t like you. I have hesitated saying this because I am at heart a nice person who just wants to get along. And yes, my landlord DOES know that I am doing this “on my own whims” because I as the downstairs tenant am directly affected by the upstairs tenant- they want me to be happy with the person who lives upstairs – and frankly, I don’t think anyone would be happy to have you as a neighbor- you’re a mean person who likes to stir sh*t up.
August 20, 2008 at 3:45 am #633545
JenVMemberoh, and by the way- it’s not called “discrimination”, NR. It’s called selection. Look up the difference some time. You don’t always get to have your way or get invited to every party, Princess. Anyone who has actually been discriminated against would take issue with your overuse and blatant misuse of that word. Cry me a freaking river.
August 20, 2008 at 3:46 am #633546
JoBParticipantNewResident..
I wasn’t mediating.. i was offering to help you as i have already helped others.
I have been house hunting and have looked at a lot of rentals. Our needs are pretty specific and it hasn’t been easy to find a place that meets them within our budget.
demanding the opportunity to live upstairs from someone who really doesn’t want you as a neighbor is looking for a fight.
it looks like you found one… and you didn’t even have to move upstairs to do it.
i’d say you made JenV cranky.. and she was trying so hard to be polite about it all.
August 20, 2008 at 7:15 am #633547
angelescrestParticipantNR,
You use every opportunity to incite. It’s pathetic. I cringe when I see you pull out the latest quote; and I’m cringing now ’cause JenV’s posting was sweet and she deserves a nice neighbor… Lots of people are reading this. Hello!? And JoB was doing you a favor.
August 20, 2008 at 2:18 pm #633548
JoBParticipantNewResident..
the offer is still open… i pull them off craig’s list and a couple of other sites 3 times a day… sort them and go see the best…
i know your computer doesn’t do pics…and that makes is so much easier to sort them out…
August 20, 2008 at 3:21 pm #633549
JenVMemberfor the record, JoB- I would love to have your doggies wrestling overhead…I just know my place is too small and there is no fenced yard for rambunctious pups. thanks always for your support and I hope you and the hubby and the pups find a good place soon.
August 20, 2008 at 4:16 pm #633550
WSBKeymasterSTOP the personality clashes, please. I’ve been flagged about this thread and I don’t even have to go back to the previous page to see some of it’s out of hand.
August 20, 2008 at 4:44 pm #633551
JoBParticipantAugust 20, 2008 at 11:53 pm #633552
AnonymousInactive“NR,
You use every opportunity to incite. It’s pathetic. I cringe when I see you pull out the latest quote” – angelescrest
“NR- give it up. I don’t like you. I have hesitated saying this because I am at heart a nice person who just wants to get along. And yes, my landlord DOES know that I am doing this “on my own whims” because I as the downstairs tenant am directly affected by the upstairs tenant- they want me to be happy with the person who lives upstairs – and frankly, I don’t think anyone would be happy to have you as a neighbor- you’re a mean person who likes to stir sh*t up” – JenV
“oh, and by the way- it’s not called “discrimination”, NR. It’s called selection. Look up the difference some time. You don’t always get to have your way or get invited to every party, Princess. Anyone who has actually been discriminated against would take issue with your overuse and blatant misuse of that word. Cry me a freaking river.” – JenV
The above quotes are personal attacks, not personality clashes, imo. Also, asking to drive by and see the place hardly constitutes as “demanding” to live there.
Contrary to the alleged malice behind my inquiry, I’m simply looking for rentals. Our lease is up soon. I didn’t realize that, in this town, it seems, it is not based on your income and credit, but is only a popularity contest.
How sad that, based on dialogue from a public forum, people are not liked and accused of being mean.
The decent thing to have done, JenV, would have been to email me privately about your concerns. You have my email address and, yet, you chose to publicly announce your dislike for me and smear me on a public forum.
August 21, 2008 at 12:02 am #633553
JoBParticipantNewResident…
ok.. i am going to be the kind aunt who tells you what you don’t want to hear…
You brought this on yourself…
let it go before it bites you… When you stick your finger in a hornet’s nest, you get stung.
the decent thing for you to have done was to let it drop when JenV didn’t respond to you.
now please, let it go.
August 21, 2008 at 12:44 am #633554
beachdrivegirlParticipantYou know i will step in here. It was out of line for angelcrest and JenV to treat NR like that and everyone sits backs and is jollie. I emailed TR about their posts b/c imo it was a personal attack. it was rude. it was mean. if they dont like her or they dont like her responses be a grown up and just dont respond. And now when NR trys to defend herself you tell her to drop it . As TR mentioned in another thread SHE is the only one that has the authority to tell someone when to drop it or when to leave the forum.
August 21, 2008 at 1:13 am #633555
JoBParticipantbeachdrivegirl..
Yes, TR is the only one who can tell anyone to drop anything.
you may not have noticed.. but i didn’t tell New resident to do anything.
I asked her politely. I even said please.
It is always rude to call anyone names.. but it is also rude to harass someone publicly because they didn’t respond to you… as New Resident did to JenV.
It is rude to us all to whine in public and continue to berate them after they have already been chastised.
When you are rude, you have to expect people to be rude back.
Yes, my comments to New Resident could be considered rude..
or you could choose to see them as friendly advice that would eliminate the hostility she feels directed towards her.
It’s clear how you chose to see this.
I hope that’s not how New Resident chooses to see it..
but was well aware when i posted that it’s only a hope on my part.
August 21, 2008 at 1:17 am #633556
beachdrivegirlParticipantBut you chose not to address JenV or Angelcrest yet you did chose to address NR. That is out of line in my opinion.
August 21, 2008 at 1:25 am #633557
AnonymousInactiveThanks BDG. I’ve been biting my tongue knowing everyone would accuse me of defending a friend and choose not to listen. I continue to be disappointed by the double standards on here. An ad gets placed for an available rental. A legitimate renter responds requesting info and is immediately trashed. Reprehensible what was written and defended here.
I don’t know what dictionary some of you use to define “sweet”, but I did look up the Merriam Webster definition of discriminate and it has a pretty accurate depiction of what occurred here.
2: to make a difference in treatment or favor on a basis other than individual merit <discriminate in favor of your friends> <discriminate against a certain nationality>
For any one that cares, NR is one of the kindest people I know and has gone out of her way to make difficulties in my life easier. I would be honored to have her and her amazing child as a neighbor.
August 21, 2008 at 1:28 am #633558
JoBParticipantJenV and anglecrest didn’t continue after TR responded to your report of suspected abuse of NewResident… so i didn’t feel a need to ask them to stop it.
They had already heeded TRs warning.
But i don’t suppose that fits in your scenario of my abusive actions towards NewResident. I would bet that offering to help her find a place to live doesn’t fit either.
I am done with thas conversation with you beachdrivegirl.
August 21, 2008 at 1:46 am #633559
JenVMemberIn my defense, and I hope to what ever god you believe in that this is the last post on this: NR should know that she and I had a personality clash. If she doesn’t, she is completely clueless. Why on earth would I want someone who I have a personality clash with living above me? If she can’t figure out when I don’t respond to her…and she continues to push it…and then accuses me of discrimination- you better GD believe I am going to fight back. with her little “quotes” about how I am “real nice”. I call BS on her little wounded bird attitude about this whole thing. I live here, I have lived here for 5 years. It is a unique living situation- it is a duplex, and also a single residence. It absolutely, positively HAS to be a mutually respectful relationship. When I responded to NR earlier in this thread (post # 29), I said that. AND SHE STILL PUSHED IT. And accused me of discrimination. She should have listened to me when I said I doubted she and I would have a mutually respectful relationship as neighbors. But no, she had to push it. She pushed me to the point of having to be rude. I tried to put it out there as gently as I could- but she still pushed it. For the record, I have known my landlords for a long time. They are very nice people. And they have been nice enough to me to let me aid in the decision of who lives upstairs because, as I stated before, it affects me. I hear footsteps. We share hot water. It has to be a friendly relationship. We don’t have to be BFFs, but jeez- it needs to be people who can be civil. NR has proven to me time and time again on this forum that she cannot and will not be civil…and yet when anyone calls her on it she cries foul. JoB was so gracious to offer help- and she got attacked for it as well. I am done. I wanted to find a neighbor from the forums because, dang it, I genuinely like most of the people here, even though I have yet to meet most of you in person. Now I am just sick over the whole thing. Let it go. I will look for a neighbor on craigslist.
August 21, 2008 at 2:12 am #633560
AnonymousInactiveThanks, BDG and JT.
From the post above, I can see that now it is MY fault that JenV got rude:
” When I responded to NR earlier in this thread (post # 29), I said that. AND SHE STILL PUSHED IT. And accused me of discrimination. She should have listened to me when I said I doubted she and I would have a mutually respectful relationship as neighbors. But no, she had to push it. She pushed me to the point of having to be rude. I tried to put it out there as gently as I could- but she still pushed it”
Hmmmm… I wonder what I can possibly be accused of next on this forum.
Btw, call me “clueless”, but I never knew, JenV, that we had a “personality clash”. I have never talked to you more than 1 minute in my life. You actually base someone’s entire character on 1 minute of conversation? Or you are simply basing your opinion of me on the conversations from the forum.
JT and I, before we met and took the time to get to know each other, had some real doozies on this forum and really got into it at times. But we did meet and we did get to know each other and I now have a friend for life in her.
There are people who participate on this forum to challenge their ideas, other’s ideas and entertain themselves. If you take it personally and let it affect how you treat people, maybe you’re taking this whole thing a little too seriously. Just my opinion.
August 21, 2008 at 2:17 am #633561
AlkiKmacParticipantAs a tenant, JenV is in a unique position to help her landlord find a new tenant. Which means she can look for someone she feels she can get along with and fits the living arrangement. She is not held to the same legal requirements as the landlord and can give her address to anyone she wishes, or not. In this case, I agree with her in not providing NR with her address (or anyone else that she does not want to disclose her personal address to). I can’t see it working out. And I also think NR knew this would happen up front and is stirring the pot. That doesn’t mean that either party is not sweet, just that their personalities clash. It happens. It’s okay. It’s life. But we don’t have to live in close proximity.
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