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November 7, 2014 at 10:27 pm #818982
wakefloodParticipantThanks for the cheer-up, Dobro. That helps keep a little perspective.
And if it weren’t for the fact that many stinking, dirty energy projects will get rammed past Obama’s veto pen, I’d be calmer already. KXL alone makes my gut physically hurt.
Apologies in advance to the planet.
November 7, 2014 at 11:49 pm #818983
JTBParticipantJoB, enjoy your soak and cruise. And thinking about cruise ship hygiene, remember many hand sanitizers (and sunscreen and moisturizers) have penetrating agents that dramatically facilitate absorption of chemicals you touch for a period of time after using them.
Hopefully the West Seattle Health Club will soon be spic and span with a reliable sauna to keep us all warmed up through the winter.
November 8, 2014 at 12:24 am #818984
wakefloodParticipantJTB, that note on absorption gave me pause for thought. What precautions should I take after using those products?
I mean, short of taking a shower in naptha. ;-)
November 8, 2014 at 3:34 am #818985
dobroParticipantDoes it really matter who controls the Senate?
November 8, 2014 at 3:46 am #818986
dobroParticipantThe politics to focus on these days is local. The military-industrial-pharma-fossil fuel-right wing billionaire complex pretty much has the national govt sewed up. They’re coming after the states, too, but we still have a chance on this level. you may notice that the majority of state-level initiatives that passed were so-called “lefty” oriented-minimum wage, legal pot, ban fracking, shift prison money to education, etc. These are things that people want to happen and, at this point, we still have a shot at it on the local level.
November 8, 2014 at 4:40 am #818987
JTBParticipantWake, There is a study on PlosOne showing that a hand sanitizer increased the absorption of BPA from paper receipts by a factor of 100. I know a lot of businesses (like TJoe) have switched to receipts that don’t have BPA, but I’ve found many clerks have no idea, so I try to limit how much I handle that stuff. The good thing is that BPA is readily eliminated by heaving sweating. However, other chemicals on surfaces may be less easy to get rid off. So I would at least make sure the material on your hands is thoroughly dried after using a sanitizer or moisturizer and it might be worth simply wiping them off with a clean towel. I’m completely speculating, but I doubt if the penetrating agent remains active for a prolonged period of time.
November 8, 2014 at 3:58 pm #818988
JoBParticipantJTB..
thanks..
i try to stay away from hand sanitizers..
chemical sensitivities, hands that have to touch and chemicals are not a good combination for me.
when i travel i carry those little soap packets and wash wash wash
I picked up more soap packets and half handkerchief sized hand towels yesterday..
and this year i got a flu shot timed to be at it’s most effective while we are on the cruise.
i got sick but better now than then.
November 8, 2014 at 4:28 pm #818989
JTBParticipantdobro, Spot on. I think on a local and county level, it’s time to push back against the fall back of raising property taxes, car tab fees, etc. and get business more involved. As I understand it, that’s likely to require making some changes to limits on levies, but it’s time.
November 9, 2014 at 9:22 pm #818990
dobroParticipantNovember 10, 2014 at 4:00 am #818991
JTBParticipantThere is a long, sobering article my Matt Stoller at Nakedcapitalism.com today which makes a compelling case for why and how the Democratic Party gradually embraced neoliberal policies (my term, not his but it doesn’t matter when you look at the specifics). Al From
I hadn’t heard about Al From but I was familiar with Democratic Leadership Conference and it orientation to cozy up to the financial sector. Presumably he’s not a lone voice. Certainly raises all kinds of questions about the wisdom of throwing in with Hillary.
November 10, 2014 at 9:54 am #818992
HMC RichParticipantJTB. That was a very interesting read about Al From. If more of his type of leadership had come through in my formative years, I might have become a Democrat. I can’t stand most liberal politicians because many do not have a soul or fiscal responsibility. They ran away from their votes and the policies they voted for. People don’t like that.
November 10, 2014 at 10:07 am #818993
HMC RichParticipantDobro. The population and liberals in Seattle are too much for the right wingers to usually overcome. Spellman was elected because I believe the other two split the vote. Republican Governors are not going to be seen much in the future but once in awhile they may get in. There are enough Democrats scattered throughout the Red part of the state to coalesce with the Seattle and other Democratic Strongholds. Unless Patty Murray or Cantwell really blow it, I cannot see a Republican winning the National Senate for a long time. The state houses might turn red for a bit but it will jump back and forth I believe.
November 10, 2014 at 4:38 pm #818994
wakefloodParticipantRich, you throw out the term “fiscal responsibility” as if the GOP actually has practiced any of it during your lifetime. They haven’t and they don’t and they don’t actually WANT to.
They dole $ out like drunken sailors home on leave to their corporate friends and the military and it’s all deficit spending on the credit card. If you’d stop listening to the rhetoric and looked the numbers without knowing party affiliation – you’d be making the case for D’s all day long and twice on Sunday.
November 10, 2014 at 7:04 pm #818995
HMC RichParticipantOh Wake, you crack me up. You are so . . . partisan. Remember when Gingrich and others wanted to decrease the amount of money that was automatically raised to 3 to 10% every year in the budget? I believe it was a program that he and the Republicans wanted to have a six percent increase instead of an 8% increase. And the Washington Elites called it a CUT and screamed bloody murder.
For those of you who will take the time to see how the greedy politicians put in place baseline budgeting please, please, read this link. http://www.oftheeising1776.com/baseline-budgeting-killing-us-softly
Dear Wakeflood. Tea Partiers would cut the budgets if they had enough support. True enough Republicans spend less but the RINO’s still spend But they don’t spend as much as Dems and your ilk will never even try.
November 10, 2014 at 7:09 pm #818996
HMC RichParticipantPS, I am partisan too (Imagine that). Very much so. But here is a nugget you might like.
How sloppy can you get? My Journalism Professors would be appalled. That’s why I like working in Sports.
November 10, 2014 at 7:22 pm #818997
JanSParticipantRich…cutting the budget, and WHERE they cut the budget…always on the backs of those who can least afford it..give me an effing break !
And for anyone that thinks they get any rational, substantive news from Breitbart, well, I almost pity them.
November 10, 2014 at 7:55 pm #818998
JanSParticipantoh, and Rich? Pay attention to right wing comments/people/ etc…now that Breitbart put that info out there, made a short statement at the end of article that basically said…”my bad…never mind”…and then removed the whole article. See how long it takes for their “misinformation” to get out there in circulation and people are believing it. Honest mistake? or devious plan?
November 10, 2014 at 8:41 pm #818999
dobroParticipant“Tea Partiers would cut the budgets if they had enough support. True enough Republicans spend less but the RINO’s still spend…”
That’s kind of funny. If the numbers show that Republicans spend like drunken sailors then, according to this logic, they’re not really Republicans! Man, that’s so easy! Let me try…
Progressives would cut the defense budget if they had enough support. True enough, the Democrats left GWB a huge surplus and spend less, but the DINOs still tax and spend…
This really makes discussions a lot shorter and less contentious. Facts just disappear! Brilliant!
November 11, 2014 at 12:56 am #819000
JTBParticipantRich, you indicated you read the piece about Al From. Given his support for cutting funding for public services as discussed in the article, I’m surprised you’re not more of a Clintonista since that clearly represents a proven opportunity to reduce spending on public programs by those who have been vilified over and over as ” tax and spend Dems” when the actual, functional, real world results have been entirely different. Thanks goodness we’ve had the likes of W to shore up support for Medicare and other socialist programs.
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