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  • #736014

    JoB
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    the first ASSumption here is that Herman Cain is not one of “them”…

    he is not a politician.. he is a businessman.

    well.. he has been a politician in training for some time now. This is his second bid at the White House and in between he failed a bid at the Senate.

    What he hasn’t been is successful at winning his own election…

    would you take business advice from a man who wasn’t a successful businessman?

    ok.. i concede that.. people do it every day. the self help business gurus are raking in millions on the suckers…

    ahem.. i meant the participants in their forums

    His only “political” success has been squashing the Clinton Health Care plan and he did that with the full backing of the restaurant association who didn’t want to provide health care for their employees..

    and … a rabidly republican Congress so invested in bringing down a President that they eventually tried to impeach him.

    Yes, i know Clinton lied.. about sex.

    But.. who did he lie to?

    He lied to a special investigator that had been pursuing any possible wrongdoing by President Clinton and/or his wife from pretty much the start of his presidency…

    who btw was not charged with investigating the president’s sex life.

    Bush lied too. There is the infamous weapons of mass destruction thing and then the little snafu over the end of the war and that bit about us not torturing people and …

    but he didn’t have a special investigator on his tail so that didn’t count.. did it?

    I digress…

    The point is that Herman had lots of help with his one political coup.. and he has not been able to trade on a decades old coup to capture a single elected seat since then.

    perhaps he should have run for the local school board instead of trading on the fact that he is a two time loser? It worked for michelle.

    As for that fried chicken thing… pure hubris

    you do see the irony of this coming from a man who made his political chops on the back of American fast food?

    I had another ASSumption filed somewhere in the back of my mind but i have temporarily misplaced it.

    Oh well.. i am sure another will replace it soon enough :)

    #736015

    TheHouse
    Member

    Same tired old people on here griping about the world, but I like to pop in occasionally to see if the insanity continues (it does).

    Just wanted to reply to the original poster and to others that have been around since the Stone Age. I’m glad that Herman Cain is starting to get traction. I was ahead of the curve many months ago and still support him.

    https://westseattleblog.com/forum/topic/2012-repub-presidential-candidates

    #736016

    JoB
    Participant

    LOL.. House

    i wondered when you would emerge from your hidey-hole..

    was it the ASSumptions that did it?

    or the support you think you will get defending them?

    either way.. welcome back.

    #736017

    JanS
    Participant

    lol..I love it…call someone on something, and you’re a “net nanny”. If I agreed with you, Kman, on everything across the board I’d be visionary, wouldn’t I? Take Friday off…you need it :D

    #736018

    JoB
    Participant

    JanS…

    you net nanny you ;->

    #736019

    JanS
    Participant

    lol..yeah…well, I suppose I’d rather be a net nanny than a _________. Feel free to fill in the blank :D Start with the letter “A” – lol…

    #736020

    kootchman
    Member

    JaN you call only those that don’t fly your colors…but damn if I don’t do the same… I noted your opinion. If you agreed with anything I said, bless your heart, I would call 911.. I would fear a cerebral event… smooch.

    #736021

    kootchman
    Member

    If you tool all the income of all the 10%…added 1.3 trillion for this year alone, and the other newer “jobs bill”.. for a cool 2 trillion… how long would it take to pay that off? In one year The Messiah blows through 2 trilion… maybe the numbers are sooo big now they are just unfathomable. I bet one thing… Herman would know what happens when ya blow through the dough that fast…and hveto borrow to do it. … taxing the rich, restoring the Bush tax cuts… won’t touch that number. Hey how come Reid blocked the vote on the “new” jobs bill? McConnell did just what the prez wanted… I am confused. Anyone know why Reid blocked it? Obama said vote on it as it is.a clean bill, a clen vote…right now. And I’ll be damned the Senate minority said ok…and the Democrats blocked it..

    #736022

    redblack
    Participant

    in a nation with a $15+ trillion GDP, probably not that long if we got down to it.

    #736023

    kootchman
    Member

    Uh redblack… that is Gross Domestic product..not net domestic product.. assume at best…10% per cent return in investment… sort of a broad estimate… with half the country paying no income taxes… so.. even if ya got the top tax rate … 2 trillion divided by the number of tax payers (half the income earners) times the 18% effective tax rate… gotta be 20 years at least… Christ … I don’t have enough space on the desktop calc for all the zeros… amazing. Gosh .. a trillion is a lot of zeros. Then another 1.6 trillion next year … why it is unsustainable.. Good thing Cain was a math major… he will need it!

    #736024

    redblack
    Participant

    Christ … I don’t have enough space on the desktop calc for all the zeros… amazing. Gosh .. a trillion is a lot of zeros.

    you should have thought of that when you voted for trickle-down economics.

    #736025

    kootchman
    Member

    Think so? I was sorta hoping you would say. don’t spend more than you earn…

    #736026

    redblack
    Participant

    i know so. that’s how it started: borrowing money so we could cut taxes without cutting spending or paying for the tax cuts. messing with social security trust fund to cover the short.

    well, trickle-down got us into this mess and we have nothing to show for all of that debt. maybe trickle-down should pay back its own red ink.

    at least the AJA extends money for infrastructure, which are tangible products that employ american people.

    in other words, a return on investment.

    which is far more than we get from wall street. bunch of crybabies. “aaahh! consumer confidence is down! sell! sell! sell!”

    ain’t that sweetly ironic? they get scared when we hedge our bets and don’t buy crap – or get ourselves unemployed – while they sit on trillions in cash.

    #736027

    kootchman
    Member

    Ya got me to thinkin… I was watching an overpass job… now go back to the CCC … it was soaking up manpower… true “shovel job”.. these jobs are capital intense jobs.. big equipment, material intensive… really not much labor. Obama keeps shoveling jobs to union work… and by your own admission that is less than 8 per cent of the working population.. how is that a stimulus package? How about suspending Davis-Bacon for infrastructure work?

    #736028

    redblack
    Participant

    how about we hire dentists to make a sewing machine?

    no. leave the infrastructure to the professionals.

    stimulus spending also benefits construction businesses, kootch, not just union thugs. the equipment and material suppliers employ people, too, who may or may not be union. the money flows around and some of it sticks to people in the form of wages. and those people suddenly have purchasing power.

    but you know that.

    #736029

    JoB
    Participant

    kootch…

    let’s be honest here

    you don’t mind if we spend more than we earn

    as long as John Q doesn’t benefit from what we spend.

    You know.. John Q.. that guy/gal who relies on a union to ensure that we all.. union employees or not… earn a living wage for our labors.

    Oh.. and health benefits..

    so we don’t have to go on the public dole for health care…

    Oh, I forgot. the tea party plan for those who can’t afford health care…

    no public dole for health care..

    let them eat cake

    if they can steal it without getting caught ;->

    which of us would you condemn to death today?

    #736030

    JoB
    Participant

    one last thought that occurred to me as i trundled off to soak my head… this may be a stretch but bear with me :)

    kootch is a poet..

    well at least he is poetic

    consider his metaphor.. the tidal surge

    created by the unequal opposition of two forces…

    the ascendency of one force over the other on the ocean floor causes that infamous destructive surge

    he would have us believe that his is the weaker force..

    the underdog so to speak.

    but if that were true

    we liberals wouldn’t be letting anyone starve in America

    and we know that isn’t true.

    food insecurity.. what a nice way to say starvation…

    is rampant in the United States

    especially in the populations liberals try to protect most..

    children, the disabled, our elderly.

    So much for those big bad special interest liberals…

    Kootch…

    once again you inadvertently prove my point. thanks.

    now you should enjoy yourself.

    i am off to soak my head and begin my day.

    good deeds to do

    people to save

    veggies to put up

    hugs to dispense

    just another day in the life of us dangerous special interest folks ;->

    #736031

    kootchman
    Member

    You didn’t have a point to prove JoB..none that I could discern. Someones singing lord, Kumbaya.. oh, lord, Kumbaya…

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