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November 11, 2015 at 4:14 am #828975
wsea98116, you walk your dog before going to the bar. Dogs can hold it for long periods of time. They can be in an indoor/outdoor environment and know it’s not okay to go potty. They won’t pee all over the planters, doorways, and railings as you suggested. The most you’ll get is an occasional bark. The model works. Educate yourself and go to the Freemont brewery sometime.
We get it. You don’t like dogs and you think all dog owners are irresponsible and inconsiderate. Yawn.
I think Laurelt has a good idea. As crowded as all the existing places get, I think there’s plenty of room for a business like this. Especially with all the people that will be moving into all those condos and micro units they’re building.November 11, 2015 at 5:10 am #828976
Especially for that reason Karl, we think the waits are bad at EBB and Tallarico’s now…wait til ya have to wait for 30 minutes to get a treadmill at LA Fitness or the line for Bakery Nouveau is 3 times as long…variety is the spice of life, I sure hope it works out
And The Fremont Brewery scene is a ton of fun!!November 11, 2015 at 5:36 am #828977November 11, 2015 at 5:52 am #828978
I’m more curious about why everyone needs to bring their dog with them everywhere they go. I remember hanging out at the video store in Austin (I Love Video – man I miss that place) years ago and two people both had to bring their pets in their with them. There was a total dogfight right in middle of one of the aisles! Exciting stuff, but totally not what I wanted to experience while browsing in the store.
If you want to start up a place that allows dogs (and serves food), that sounds great for dog lovers, but I just don’t understand this driving need to take your dogs everywhere you go.November 11, 2015 at 5:59 am #828979
I will say this about the business plan, the use of the word “pet” implies that ANY animal would be permitted, dog, cat, ferret, parrot, snake, etc…Laurelt you may want to clarify what “pet” refers to as many folks will assume it’s dogs only! Other than that, looks great!November 11, 2015 at 6:02 am #828980
SniperKitty: In my experience, saying “I just don’t understand x or y” usually means “I don’t like x or y.”
Which is of course anyone’s right — no one has to like everything. But it sounds by the tone of your post that it’s not that you don’t “understand” it (and are genuinely curious about/open to learning about why such a thing would appeal to folks). You have a problem with it.
I think places that allow for all different sorts of people-combinations (kids, dog owners, dog agnostics) sounds like glorious, beautiful diversity to me. It seems very welcoming.November 11, 2015 at 6:15 am #828981
If people want to have a dog bar or pub (pets implies dogs, seriously, no one is gonna bring their cat or python), that is fine. I am honestly asking why it is necessary to take your pet with you when you go to the store/bar/restaurant/workplace. I love playing with my cat at home, but I don’t feel the need to take him to QFC to wander around the aisles. Just explain it to me. Please?November 11, 2015 at 8:10 am #828982
Greystreet…good point. I was wondering if people might take a leashed cat…I’m sure it’s happened. I do not have one, let me clarify :)November 11, 2015 at 11:07 am #828983
“seriously, no one is gonna bring their cat or python”
clearly.. you have never spent time in Santa CruzNovember 11, 2015 at 5:04 pm #828984
Song birds. I doubt if many people here have song birds for pets, but I’ve been in places in SE Asia where owners bring their pet birds on certain days to show off and engage in some competition for best-sounding and best-looking bird. If’s delightful. Probably have to exclude cats on those days, however.November 11, 2015 at 5:32 pm #828985
2 Much WhineParticipant
Sniper, if you are truly looking for an answer as to why someone would find it “necessary” to bring their pet (assume dog) to places other than their own yard I can possibly provide some answers you may or may not understand. 1) It’s not any more “necessary” to bring a pet than it is for a woman to carry all their stuff in a purse – you don’t necessarily have to carry it in a purse but it sure is more convenient. Perhaps the folks that want to bring their pet know that they will come home to a clean house that hasn’t been damaged by an anxious animal if they just bring it with them – it’s more convenient. 2) People treat their pets as children and want to provide them with adventures like going out in public. 3) Pets are far better behaved if they have been adequately socialized. (Most) Dogs that are exposed to other dogs on a regular basis are less inclined to overreact and bark. Usually a sniff or two is all it takes and then they move on. 4) Having a pet with you is a great way to strike up a conversation with like-minded people. You can instantly identify that you have something in common and it is an easy icebreaker. 5) It’s a great way to meet women that tend to be drawn toward cute puppies and kitties. 6) Owning a pet requires a commitment to them. People recognize that they have a responsibility to give the pet some exercise. In our busy lifestyle sometimes it might be an option to take the dog for a walk and stop in for a drink and maybe have some dinner before heading off to bed or some other commitment. It can be a way to resolve a time crunch. 7) Of course there are the folks that rely on their dogs as service dogs or “therapy” dogs but that is a bit of a red herring – I’m assuming that (bona fide) service dogs are understood and accepted.
These are just a few reasons that folks might want to bring their best friend with them when they go out and I’m sure there are more. You might not agree with them and could probably find valid arguments for all of them (as in: if you don’t have time for a dog – don’t get one). By the way, I don’t find the need to bring my pet everywhere but can understand many reasons why some people would want to.November 11, 2015 at 6:04 pm #828986
Well said, 2Much Whine. Dogs are very social animals. They are pack animals, and part of being in a pack is traveling with the pack. My dog loves to go anywhere (even the vet). He loves people and loves having new experiences.
Laurelt, I may not be able to invest in your business now, but I would certainly support it as a customer!November 11, 2015 at 6:09 pm #828987November 11, 2015 at 11:25 pm #828988
2MuchWhine, totally agree. And remember, dog is man’s best friend :-) From time to time I meet people who say, “my dog goes everywhere with me!” If I have a choice between taking my dog, or not, I would much rather take her with me, largely for the reasons you noted.November 11, 2015 at 11:42 pm #828989
Thank you for the response 2 Much Whine. I can definitely appreciate the need to take 4-legged friends out and about for walks, play, and socializing (on-leash of course); and it does make the idea of a dog-friendly social spot sound like a better idea.
I guess, from the non dog owner perspective, I’d just like dog owners to know that we feel like sometimes you might be pushing the boundaries too far by taking dogs into places where they really aren’t allowed. For example, at my work a woman kept bringing her dog into our offices and letting it run free, assuming that everyone would love to be around her dog as much as her. She didn’t ask if anyone was nervous around dogs, allergic, or simply didn’t want to be slobbered on or bothered. She assumed that her canine member of her family would be a delight for everyone in the office. Luckily, some people complained, and then the boss had to remind everyone that non-service animals were not allowed in the building.
I realize you guys love your dogs and see them as your kids/friends/companions, but please just realize that other people might not see it that way when you take your dog to a store, restaurant, or other place of business that is not specifically designated for dogs. Or when you let them run free in public spaces like beaches and play fields that specifically prohibit them. That said, it sounds like a dog pub like the Hydrant or this one might be a great idea. I just won’t go there, and that’s okay.November 12, 2015 at 12:40 am #828990
If you want outdoor space, the former Brickyard BBQ space has lots in front and back. But, it’s in the Admiral junction and some places have struggled there recently.November 12, 2015 at 4:14 am #828991
How does “only craft beer place serving 30+ local taps of micro-brews & ciders” not equal “bar”?November 12, 2015 at 9:21 am #828992
singular….when I think of “bar”, I think of hard liquor and mixed drinks.(and sometimes old codgers sitting there drinking all afternoon – lol). I don’t think the same thing when it’s beer…even if it’s 30 taps…maybe it’s semantics…to each his own…November 12, 2015 at 8:10 pm #828993
Wes C. AddleParticipant
I think this is a good addition. I know there are lots of pubs but recently I have noticed an uptick in waiting times at a lot of my favorite places. I’m sure this is due to all of the new people that are moving onto the peninsula.November 13, 2015 at 11:09 pm #828994
wait…wait…have any of you heard about this one?(not to take away from the OP…my apologies)
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