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December 20, 2008 at 6:47 am #650885
cakeitseasyMemberSeattle Municipal Code section 11.40.250:
“No person upon roller skates, or riding in or by means of any coaster, skateboard, toy vehicle or similar device, shall go upon the roadway of any arterial street or transit coach route, except while crossing such street at a crosswalk; or engage in any sport, amusement or exercise or play in the roadway of any street.”
Actually, it’s illegal to play in the street.
December 20, 2008 at 6:51 am #650886
CaitParticipantWell… and contrary to common sense. Print that, laminate it and slap one on every SNOW CLOSURE sign you can find. And telephone poles. …That may be against an ordinance too though. DOH!
December 20, 2008 at 6:59 am #650887
MargLMemberActually the PI just posted an article about the whole sledding in the street issue – http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/393027_sled20.html
and I saw a story on TV about another kid being pulled on a sled/tube behind a car getting injured sliding into a parked car on the side of the road. Common sense or 20/20 hindsight?
December 20, 2008 at 7:05 am #650888
CaitParticipantI remember being REALLY young and, even then, thinking “What dummy pulls someone behind a car?”
December 20, 2008 at 8:00 am #650889
CaitParticipantVincent… I don’t get whose side you’re on here but “that’s for playing”.
December 20, 2008 at 8:53 am #650890
roundthesoundParticipantThere is more snow coming, kids are on vacation, they will be out sledding in the streets regardless if it’s against the city’s municipal code.
Be careful!
kids+hills+snow=fun
kids+hills+snow+cars=ER
December 20, 2008 at 12:37 pm #650891
Kayleigh2MemberEr, now it’s Peggy’s responsibility to make sure nobody in West Seattle sleds on a street? Get busy, Peggy! ;-)
Like I said, we used to slide on the streets in West Seattle snow when we were kids. We didn’t get towed behind a car (that’s just insane). We used a spotter at the bottom of the hill and were very careful. It was amazing fun.
I get that it wasn’t very safe and that WSEA is busier now. But I think some of ya’s were blaming your frustration and worry on Peggy.
December 20, 2008 at 2:11 pm #650892
CaduceusMemberThis whole thread is ridiculous.
PeggySue has every right to ask drivers to be more cautious.
People here in Seattle can hardly drive in the rain, let alone in the snow and standing at any intersection on let’s say…35th will show you that they also have avoided learning how to drive in the snow.
Kids are going to go play inthe snow regardless of whether or not you feel you need to be going down hills that are sled-able.
Generally (key word, right there) kids will find the steeper, icier hills. Because you go faster and they are more fun. Now what was the kind of hill you’re suppose to avoid driving on?
Oh, right.
The people on this forum need to seriously grow up, and start thinking straight.
Kudos to you PeggySue for reminding people they need to drive extra careful since kids will be out playing in the snow.
December 20, 2008 at 4:04 pm #650893
HMC RichParticipantWow! Some of you really display tolerance. Amazing. Your points were valid but your choice of words and descriptions at times were so condescending.
You did gang up on Peggy Sue. Should the kids be sledding on the street? Of course not. But they are going to find fun where they can.
Go back into the way back machine and try to remember when you were a child. A hill with snow wherever it was was fair game.
As a parent, I will not let my kid play in the street. Other parents may feel differently.
We all want the kids to be safe.
December 20, 2008 at 4:07 pm #650894
beachdrivegirlParticipantI am sorry but I feel that I have no reason to apologize.
A statement that is made telling people who INSIST about driving (which is legal mind you) to be more careful of those that choose to break the law. That deserves ridicule.
And generally speaking Caduceus in other cities, I know you are still a bit young to have experienced this, parents dont allow their children to play in the street snow or no snow. In fact, parents keep their children farther from the street in conditions like these b/c they understand it is icy and that life doesnt end b/c of ice. They bring their children to parks and let their children slide down the big hill in the park. In Denver, Chicago, and back east people dont play in the streets they go to the park to sled. simple fact.
I cant believe that people actually believe that people think it is alright to risk not only their own lives while breaking the law but INNOCENT DRIVERS as well.
And Caduceus unless you have lied to us about your age you arent exactly a mature adult so I would be careful about who you told to grow up. Maybe this is just another example where we should practice the saying of “practice what you preach.”
Charlabob, I dont think i was on the news. What was it for?
December 20, 2008 at 4:23 pm #650895
JenVMemberI almost DID die sledding when I was a kid. We lived on Vashon, and would sled down the hill to the ferry dock parking lot. It was a steep hill, and always closed when it snowed. It goes first into the upper lot, then into the lower lot. Ultimately, you were supposed to turn into the upper lot – it was flat. The lower lot is a continuation of the hill. This was the big snowstorm of ’85 or ’86 I think – I know it was Thanksgiving weekend. I am on my metal rail sled, that I think must have belonged to our parents – it was old. I am headfirst- and probably going about 50 down the hill. Everyone is telling me to turn or jump off before I hit the parking lot. I can’t – going too fast, I am scared and the sled wont turn. I end up in the lower parking lot- I see a huge bumper ahead of me- put out my hand and hit full force with my neck. Try to stand up and immediately fall down. can’t speak or move. the neighborhood kids run and get someone’s dad, who carries me all the way home- I was 11 or so, so not a little tyke. Later that night I went into shock – shaking, crying – realized I could have died – and it’s a wonder I didn’t. Ended up with a badly sprained wrist. So when I see kids trying to sled around any cars, it freaks me out.
December 20, 2008 at 4:34 pm #650896
CaduceusMemberBeach I’ve lived in 5 different cities. Including Niagara Falls and Buffalo for almost 3 years combined.
People sled all over the streets, here, east coast and the mid-west.
No one asked you to apologize, unless I missed it.
And you’re STILL missing the point, and being childish.
The point to the creation of this thread is as follows, I’ll even put it in a simple list.
Children are sledding.
A lot of drivers are being just as careless as ever.
Peggy would like to remind us to drive carefully, not only for our own safety but for the safety of the kids who would like to enjoy sledding.
And legality is a laughable point, sledding will be enforced the same way “curfew” is enforced. Of the utmost rarity if at all.
So you are essentially saying that Peggy is wrong? And that everyone should drive normally because the kids shouldn’t be in the street in the first place? I don’t understand, I mean she is either right or she is wrong, we should either drive extra carefully or not.
December 20, 2008 at 4:40 pm #650897
beachdrivegirlParticipantHer post as well as yours was condescending imo. A simple drive carefully its icy would have done. I believe YOU are missing the point. Funny that I havent witnessed these careless drivers. I actually have seen more caution than I typically do but that just me and I have been out and about a lot.
December 20, 2008 at 4:46 pm #650898
CaduceusMemberI missed the point?
“For those of people who insist upon driving up and down our West Seattle hills: PLEASE PLEASE exercise extreme caution when navigating side streets.”
Hmm.
Well my dear, I was almost hit four times by people who thought it was a fabulous idea to slam on their break going down a hill when the began to slightly fishtail.
I was also almost in the middle of a 3 car fender-bender, while walking on the side walk.
It’s no secret that people on this forum tend to get overly aggressive almost on purpose (especially about politics) but you don’t need to try extra hard, in almost every thread I’ve ever posted in. You’ve been mist-interpreting posts since I made the WASL topic.
December 20, 2008 at 4:50 pm #650899
beachdrivegirlParticipantWell actually the point (i believe the majority )of posters on here is trying to make is that people are going to drive. Most are driving carefully. And it is rude to expect them not to drive on certain hills (which is requested by PeggySue) because it might get in the way of an activity (sledding) which is done while breaking the law.
And hate to break it to you honey but this is me. Take it or leave it no personal attack towards you I am just passionate about my beliefs. And laws typically back my beliefs.
December 20, 2008 at 4:59 pm #650900
beachdrivegirlParticipantWell maybe the post would have better suited with a title such as ICY drive carefully?
And then in the post remind parents, children, and teens that b/c of the ice it is even more important to follow the laws and not play in the streets. IMO, the post ridiculed drivers and defended those that were playing in the street.
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