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January 18, 2010 at 9:06 pm #593589
RobindianneParticipantTrying to eat healthier and worry less. I’m hoping to start using milk from cows or goats that have been hand milked, as opposed to having their udders in a machine. Anyone know where I can look?
Also, anyone know where to buy eggs that from chickens that aren’t kept in a pen and fed corn but truly scrap around and eat bugs and grubs?
Thanks! I’m new at this health thing :)
January 18, 2010 at 10:08 pm #686721
JoBParticipantfarmer’s market usually has both
January 18, 2010 at 10:21 pm #686722
johnnyblegsMemberThe Swinery sells eggs from Stokesberry Sustainable Farm in Olympia. Seabreeze Farm (WS Farmer’s market) has milk.
January 18, 2010 at 11:17 pm #686723
flowerpetalMemberCongratulations Robindiane! Any step we make towards healthier eating is positive. I think you would want to ask a merchant selling milk what her/his cows are fed and injected with. I believe that’s more important than hand or machine milked.
True for chickens too…not how they are milked, but what they are fed! :>)
January 18, 2010 at 11:55 pm #686724
RobindianneParticipantThanks! I appreciate your suggestions. I’ve been eating organic but only recently came to understand that organic eggs don’t necessarily come from chickens that were pastured and ate protein; and that organic milk that comes from machine milked cows can cause human health problems due to the fragility of udder skin, lotions put on to help heal, cleanliness of machines, etc. Plus time spent hooked to a machine is time away from grazing. – not to mention the whole morality/ethics thing.
Can you tell I’m reading omnivore’s dilemma? Learning about so-called industrial organic (as opposed to home farmish). Just finished in defense of food (Another Great Book by the way).
Anyway, thanks again. A-shopping here we go!
January 19, 2010 at 6:24 am #686725
MsKittenMemberI was at the Farmers market on Sunday and saw fresh non-pasturized milk for sale as well as free range organic eggs. Also grass fed/pastured meat such as beef, pork, goat and chickens.
ps. I am a big Michael Pollen fan as well! I saw him speak in Los Angeles right after Dilema came out. I really enjoyed in Defence of Food!
January 19, 2010 at 4:15 pm #686726
JoBParticipanti think you can visit their farm
January 19, 2010 at 5:23 pm #686727
karenParticipantRaising your own chickens is an option for eggs. I have greatly enjoyed my chickens! I don’t think I’m saving any money but I know exactly where my eggs come from and the birds themselves are amusing to watch.
‘Course I don’t think you can grow a cow in West Seattle!
January 20, 2010 at 7:56 pm #686728
dawsonctParticipantNo cows, but miniature goats ARE acceptable. Of course, you will need room for at least two, as they are very intelligent and social animals. Plus, I don’t believe breeding is allowed, so getting milk from your goats may be somewhat problematic.
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Another bonus of backyard chickens, besides eggs, is that they will eat a lot of damaging insects which helps keep your garden pesticide-free. Ducks eat slugs, and their eggs are better for baking.
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If we all could raise just a small percentage of our food at home, imagine the benefit to our society as a whole.
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Watch “Food, Inc.” if you would like to deepen your resolve.
January 20, 2010 at 8:32 pm #686729
EmmyJaneParticipantHi Robin,
This is a great change to make! You also might want to consider switching to soy milk… Consider this (which you might already know from your books!):
Dairy cows don’t magically give milk- they’re kept almost constantly pregant so they keep producing milk. This process leaves them calcium depleted and often unable to walk. So that humans can have the milk instead of the calves, male babies are taken from them, put in cages where they have limited movement, kept anemic, and slaughtered as early as 16 weeks (a.k.a. veal).
Not to mention the drugs they’re pumped full of to keep them producing unnatural amounts of milk…
You know, I have honestly never looked into how to get milk outside of this process, and don’t know how easy it would be. In our home (which has meat eaters FYI) we just switched to soy to avoid it all. Let me know if someone has an idea!
Another great resource is http://www.eatwild.com
January 20, 2010 at 9:04 pm #686730
JoBParticipantEmmy Jane
pregnancy doesn’t induce milk
birth and lactation does
if they are milk producers
as long as udders are milked regularly
they produce milk
just like people
i don’t think i have ever pondered the question of whether a pregnant cow still produces milk… but i would suppose they do.
the trick is to find a farm where they treat their cows like cows..
not like production machines.
it’s good for the cows
it’s good for you
and the milk tastes better
soy may not be the best answer
for you or for the planet
try the farmers market..
it puts a whole new spin on meat and meat products..
January 20, 2010 at 9:19 pm #686731
EmmyJaneParticipantSemantics. What I meant is cows are kept pregnant so they have babies then produce milk. Same point.
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