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November 29, 2011 at 3:54 am #601423
wrenMemberSamie is settling in and we are adapting to each others quirks. He loves to ride in the car. He now has his own little harness to keep him safe. I am wondering what stores/places in West Seattle are dog friendly. It seems to me there was a posting awhile ago, not sure about that.
November 29, 2011 at 4:18 am #741970
WDParticipantThe Beveridge Place on California Ave in the Morgan St Junction area. They are very dog friendly.
November 29, 2011 at 4:40 am #741971
JoBParticipantmost of the pet stores are dog friendly
November 29, 2011 at 5:23 am #741972
smyParticipantIs Home Depot still dog-friendly? They used to welcome them with biscuits and pets.
Westcrest off-leash park is great with a new dog onleash. Many ways for a new dog to escape if they are intent or move faster with four legs than the 2-legged-types accompanying them to see what’s on the other side of the proverbial fence. The small/shy dog area is enclosed more securely and typically pretty calm, but you still should take precautions to keep your new one close and safe. Not worth it to risk it. Folks are always ready to give some input and guidance at the park – many of the dogs are rescues and everyone there=dogfolks. Weekday mornings are the calmest to introduce a new dog on a leash. Weekends not as much.
A couple of coffee-houses also. Maybe others can offer suggestions as to specific ones.
November 29, 2011 at 5:05 pm #741973
furryfacesParticipantThe Beveridge Place Pub is very dog friendly. The dog behavior rules are:
-be dog friendly
-no barking
-no playing or fighting
-be on the floor or completely on your lap
-be with you at all times, i.e., going to the bathroom, ordering a beer, etc.
Also…True Value Hardware if the Alaska Junction is dog friendly.
Hotwire Online Coffeehous is dog friendly. The ‘regular dogs’ drag their humans in there for treats and the attention that the Barista’s shower them with.
November 29, 2011 at 5:44 pm #741974
JulieMemberActually, it would be useful to have a list of businesses that are NOT “dog-friendly”, so that those of use who prefer or need to avoid dogs can choose those businesses, and avoid the dog-friendly ones.
November 29, 2011 at 6:38 pm #741975
wrenMemberthanks all for the thoughts. Particularly Hotwire and Westcrest off leash.
Does anyone else know which other coffee houses might be dog friendly? I did see someone with a dog in C&P. It wasn’t a seeing eye dog, but it might have been another kind of service dog.
I have seen dogs at that Alki copy/mail place on admiral. not a coffee shop, but you can get coffee there and use their wi fi and computers.
Wren
November 29, 2011 at 7:36 pm #741976
KimberleyParticipantWhy on earth do people feel the need to take their dogs into coffee houses, shops, etc.? I just don’t understand it. Having a few places where it’s a novelty is cool (Beveridge Place, Norms) but people think it’s okay to take their dogs everywhere. I saw a woman with a purse dog in Met Market last week and no one batted an eye.
November 29, 2011 at 8:13 pm #741977
JulieMemberKimberley, I find that if you do “bat an eye”, or say anything in protest, you are generally ignored, told to mind your own business, or sneered at, not only by the dog owner but by anybody else around. That purse dog you saw? Probably its owner would claim it as a “service” dog, and how can she be contradicted? Some disabilities are not visible–and people take advantage of this.
So it does seem to me that most businesses in the area are “dog friendly”–and it would be more useful to compile a list of dog UN-friendly businesses, so that we’ll know which businesses to patronize, according to our preferences.
And never mind the laws. Dogs owners are exempt, didn’t you know?
November 29, 2011 at 8:25 pm #741978
WSratsinacageMemberLOL. Amen Julie.
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I thought dogs were banned from food and beverage places under WA state health code law. Seems like more and more laws are pick and choose these days or there is a loophole like the “service” dog line.
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I wonder if a call to the health dept will do the trick? :) Although… if someone “drops a dime” on a scofflaw, the offender says “all you had to do was ask” but if you ask (like you stated above) you get told to F.O.
November 29, 2011 at 9:18 pm #741979
metrognomeParticipantjust so you know, a ‘service animal’ has to actually perform a task for that person and a federal lawsuit right here in Seattle (Grill v Costco) established that a store has a right to ask what task(s) the animal performs. The animal’s owner has a right to answer generically, i.e. ‘She alerts me to a medical condition’ rather than specifically in a way that id’s their disability, i.e. ‘She is a seizure alert dog.’
The US Dept of Justice just went through a process to define service animal because of the number of people who wanted to include ‘comfort animals.’ I retired before they were published, so I don’t know what changed; however, WA state law prevails if it provides better protection for the person with the disability.
In any case, the store/restaurant owner or employees have to work up the chutzpah to ask.
As far as places that welcome owners and their dogs, as long as they publicize it so I can go somewhere else …
November 29, 2011 at 9:24 pm #741980
abstractParticipantI have seen dogs in target, safeway, met market, etc.. I am pretty sure they are not allowed but nobody seems to care. I did have a good laugh the other day. I was at the Roxbury Safeway and over the loud speaker heard “To the owners of the pit bull in the produce department.” I didn’t hear the rest, but thought that was definitely not something you hear every day.
I believe dogs are still allowed at the Home Depot, and I think most stores that don’t sell food (always ask) are okay. I have seen dogs at Barnes and Noble.
November 29, 2011 at 10:57 pm #741981
wrenMemberI guess all sides have been heard from. Everyone gets to express an opinion. some are helpful, some are funny, some a little sharp perhaps, but all are said with the best intention.
Samie is not a pocket dog, I have no intention of taking him into the Met Market for example. I try to be very respectful that not all people are into dogs, still it is fun to be able to take him some places with me,
November 29, 2011 at 11:55 pm #741982
KimberleyParticipantWren – my intention wasn’t to be disrespectful. I’m a dog owner myself (can’t sneak an 80lb lab into Met Market and I’m not brave enough to leave him tied up outside) and agree that the novelty can be cool. However, as others have mentioned, people seem to be taking their dogs everywhere these days.
November 30, 2011 at 6:39 am #741983
wrenMemberthanks Kimberly I understand. Speaking of leaving dogs outside – curious what peoples thoughts on that are. I pretty much don’t think it is a good idea, but people seem to do it quite a bit outside the markets and such.
November 30, 2011 at 6:53 am #741984
maplesyrupParticipantWren that totally depends on the dog, doesn’t it?
November 30, 2011 at 7:52 pm #741985
KimberleyParticipantI love seeing the dogs tied up outside of Met Market, and generally will stop and let them sniff me out to see if they want to be petted, but I’m not so sure I’d leave my guy outside. Maybe if I were just running in to get coffee and it wasn’t too busy.
November 30, 2011 at 8:45 pm #741986
GoGoParticipantI would NEVER leave my boys tied up outside of anywhere. Just asking for someone to steal them while you are gone, if you ask me.
December 4, 2011 at 4:30 pm #741987
hopeyParticipantmetrognome, thanks for the info on that court case. If anyone’s interested in reading it, I found a copy here: http://www.psychdog.org/news/GrillvsCostco.pdf
The bottom line of the case, as stated on page 10, starting at line 9:
“Costco should be allowed some way of determining which animal is in fact a service animal, and the plaintiffs cannot demonstrate that the policy as written [asking what task a service dog is trained to perform] results in discrimination.”
I hope to have a hearing service dog some day, so this has been very useful for me. The way the law works, this determination by the Court is not limited to Costco. Any business now has the same right to question an unmarked service dog’s duty.
On the other hand, Seattle is one of the most dog-friendly cities in the country. People bring their dogs with them because they can, it’s as simple as that. I do agree in wishing that grocery stores and other food establishments would do a better job of preventing people from bringing their miniature dogs in purses and bags.
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