Home › Forums › Open Discussion › Assault Weapons – the very name is indicative of intent!
- This topic is empty.
-
AuthorPosts
-
July 25, 2012 at 10:23 pm #764671
megMember“Some people don’t care how they look. In fact, some people actually enjoy looking like a**h*les, especially on internet forums.”
Don’t speak in generalizations and ignorant opinion, dobro. Follow your own tip, don’t tell us what other people think. Speak for yourself and perhaps that will lend credibility to statements you make.
LOL!
July 25, 2012 at 10:26 pm #764672
mpentoParticipantJuly 25, 2012 at 10:43 pm #764673
megMemberJuly 25, 2012 at 11:36 pm #764674
megMemberJuly 25, 2012 at 11:57 pm #764675
waynsterParticipantAs a gun owner I will say this we can argue till the moon goes dark about the 2nd amendment….. bottom line is the government can control what type of guns you can own…. they have in the past Clinton put on the band Bush lifted the band on assault weapons and how meany rounds you can have per clip ask one self do you need a 100 round clip or bigger for hunting…..not unless your hunting people and thats the problem some have….. how meany states allow fully automatic weapons to be owned you can count on one hand… can you have one yes better have a dam good reason and have a talk to the FBI just never take it out for a stroll in this state…..
July 25, 2012 at 11:59 pm #764676
oddrealityParticipantYou’re a guy aren’t you “meg” :)
Did that person survive? Horrid accident.
Guns do not scare me, we own some. Crazy people with guns scare me and there are way too many to them out there.I am happy to have mine registered and cannot fathom why , if you do not intend to commit crimes with yours why you would be afraid to have guns registered.The government , if it ever went that far astray, would never be able to confiscate all the guns.Word would get out immediately and people would not allow it to happen.
You know…that organized militia you all belong to ….LOL.. What exactly are you all afraid of having rules for gun ownership that might stop things like Aurora , Co from happening??
It is getting to the point where we will all need an assault rifle. [a military type rifle with a huge magazine that fires fast would be my own personal idea of what a so called assault weapon is] Maybe they should just hand them out willy nilly .Apparently we will need them to protect ourselves from our neighbors and others who *think* they are trying to protect us from the government.Funny how their idea of government is different than about half the country…or more. I am so sick of people that are angling for a good revolution…I would rather try to fix what we have instead of instigating a blood bath in this country.
July 26, 2012 at 12:27 am #764677
dobroParticipant“Don’t speak in generalizations…”
Yes, you recognized me making a generalization. Good cognitive awareness. The difference between mine and yours is that you are creating “some people” who don’t trust themselves to compare to your own self-trustworthy, flammable liquid using,constitution lovin’ self while I am merely making an observation that doesn’t include self- aggrandizing comparisons to myself. I don’t expect you to understand or acknowledge the difference, but I just thought I’d point it out.
July 26, 2012 at 3:03 am #764678
jamminjMemberAmazing that we have one party that is trying to make it harder to just vote.
But then wants to make it easier to own weapons that can shoot hundred of rounds per sec.
messed up, yup.
James Holmes… up until he shot his first round. Everything he did was his constitutional right.
He did nothing illegal in gaining his weapons of mass destruction.
These are the rights you are fighting for GOP.
Even the ‘well regulated militia’ – states armies (national guard) – have tough restrictions on its arms… what many here are arguing is letting everyone and anyone get access with no control.
Guess what… unless something changes, Aurora is going to happen again, and being planned right now.
And all done legally.
July 26, 2012 at 3:13 am #764679
jamminjMemberDon’t mean to be factious, but curious as to the argument to arm themselves no matter what… how far do you argue?
If the intent of the 2nd amendment is to protect ourselves against the tyranny of our govt.
Is it my right to own grenades, missile launcher, nuclear arms? If we have to overcome our federal military, think it’s going to take more than a rifle, or even a 1000 rounds of ammo.
Is there no limit? in the 2nd amendment?
July 26, 2012 at 3:39 am #764680
megMemberPsst, dobro! I know I jess a lil cotton-headed dufus. Prolly I cant be able understand yer pernts or realize YOU generalizations ARE so much more modest, purer, and truthier. I am a dirty ol’ constitution-hugger, not smart & crafty like ya’ll.
So, you say I fabricated ‘some people’ to contrast wit?? I grew up with anti-gun & believing it was righteous. I heard peeps at times ackshually admitting sheepishly they did not want others to own guns… for one reason, because they wouldn’t trust their OWN selves with owning a gun! At the time, I believed *that* could be a good enuf reason. Ever heard of silent unspoken prejudices, that are never scrutinized?
But, you tell me, since you know more about how to properly present a generalization. Perhaps mine would have been less offensive, more modest-sounding or purer, if I presented it and the contrast, in 2 different posts instead of just one? IDK. Just trying to brainstorm how to do this better, das all.
July 26, 2012 at 3:56 am #764681
DBPMemberAnyone up for a “Boycott Colorado” effort?
I’m going to write the governmor (John Hickenlooper) and ask him to take a strong stand against assault weapons. If he declines, I’m gonna explain that I don’t feel safe being in a state where people think the solution to gun violence is to arm everyone.
And it’ll be the truth, too. How can anyone feel safe in a place like that?
July 26, 2012 at 3:59 am #764682
Myr-myrParticipantMeg, do you even realize how bigoted and offensive your comment was? Can’t we stick to facts to move this conversation forward.
July 26, 2012 at 3:59 am #764683
kootchmanMemberThe commentary was.. whenever there is a “movement” to restrict gun rights… we get the appeal letters, and we respond. It’s like everything liberals do.. you can NOT trust them to take a moderating or compromising position. It’s all or nothing. Better not to let then even get started. we know. It’s perfectly fine for a left agenda to ignore law when it rises to some liberal doctrine.. like welfare/work, or stomp on religious freedoms in Obamacare.
And I pointed out, and accurately, that, Harry Reid is from a gun state, Obama needs every vote he can garner, neither one will touch the issue. Obama is already on record with his derisive comment on gun toters… Ohio and PA are NRA states.. he won’t do a thing. Am I correct?
Law is apparently selective, highly selective. See jamminj you don’t need supremacy, just enough to give pause, is the offesne worth the risk?
I give your the exact argument of your own words.. no one is trying to restrict the vote of gays, blacks, hispanics, etc.you know that or should… a simple, voter ID program to insure the integrity of the vote. And, that was found by SCOTUS to be .. gosh.. legal. As long as they law is uniformly applied. But that is not liberal catechism… so it is now voter called “voter suppression”.. not voter fraud prevention. Then you boo hoo hoo when we say ANY restriction is a second amendment violation is intolerable.. Oh the hypocrisy is too funny! . Oh they say… there are too few instances to justify it … uh huh. A reasonable compromise is impossible as the DNC tries to register the dead, illegals and pets. Or under threat of ANOTHER state lawsuit, Homeland Security refuses to provide the state of Florida with the most accurate dataset to insure the voter registrations are the most accurate they can be..and NO legal voters are purged… and then collapses and relents only when Florida prepares to go to court.
BTW…. seems that the Colorado wacko did indeed send a detailed plan of his intentions to the school.. a resident psychiatrist of his plans… illustrated with hand drawings. It sat in the school mail room unopened for a week before his heinous act.
You want gun registration, but are ok with unregistered voters? Tell ya what.. when you have to go be fingprinted, photogrpahed, have a backround check AND pay $58 … then I can empathize with voter suppression… that is what we have to do to carry and conceal.
I don’t think the FBI can do a thing under your scenario.. it’s a state law… Ohhh you are against state laws… of course unless they sing the song in your key. Again jamminj if it is being planned.. it is not legal. See all manner of laws, as you will see in the charging documents were broken… didn’t stop it.
Is there a limit to the second amendment.. I say no.. nuclear arrms.. yes. Under the non proliferaton treaties we have.
Curious DBP… ya think there are no assault weapons in our fair state? No extended magazines? Laws are like taxes dude… ya follow the ones ya want to. Really, in the end that is how it works. It’s illegal to smoke pot.. millions ignore it. Laws require cooperation and compliance… fact.. as I stated previously, in the history of our laws.. it was prohibition that even brought assault weapons to the streets and the popular culture… so many ignored the law, gangsters fed an illegal demand and protected gang turf with the original drive by weapon, the Thompson sun macine gun. Same as today… police use the excuse that they need these weapons cause’ the drug gangs which supply drugs to a largely ignored law ..protect profitable turf franchises. The “war on drugs” is what up armored the urban landscape.
My question is.. and this is a serious one… why ARE so many upgrading their weapons capabilities? This didn’t happen overnight. I was happy, still am. with an M-14 cause it was an “old friend” and I can shoot it proficiently when I hunt. That’s it’s intended use.. something accurate out to 800 yards. You know what makes me more nervous? SPD with M-4’s…left on the hood of police cars while they slurp coffee in Starbuck’s… remember that one?
July 26, 2012 at 4:01 am #764684
kootchmanMemberJuly 26, 2012 at 4:52 am #764685
kootchmanMembermyr myr… being a late poster.. I have discussed my handle nom de guerre many times… twas one of the greatest rock guitarists of all time.. tough luck on that feeble attempt .. it was and is an honorarium to a great musical influence. You sick minded, prone to take offense, reactionary, knee jerk liberal… now that would be offensive. My comment was not in the least bit incendiary… DPB loves his rules, his regulations, his self satisfied sense that he know how to regulate society… I merely posted a simple innocuous statement…. the government will do nothing because on this issue, the majority rules and will continue to rule as long as the lobbyist for gun interests are fully funded. Everyone does it… we cash up our advocates so we don’t lose our rights. Liberals are notoriously never satisfied.. magazine load limits today… powder charge the next… pretty soon.. our gun rights are gone. My point was before DPB went on a tangent…the gun lobby is no more than an instrument of the majority to express its view that compromise with visceral gun hating folks is … impossible.
July 26, 2012 at 5:21 am #764686
megMemberInstead of getting worried about guns, why aren’t we focused on what is *really* behind the Aurora CO’s of our nation? Were there clues in that unopened letter?
July 26, 2012 at 5:34 am #764687
JVMemberNot to confuse things, but if we are really interested in the killing of innocents, we would be talking about the lives taken by the Pro-Abortion lobby.
But you’re not interested in protecting innocent life, you are interested in taking away guns because they are loud and scary.
DBP, if you’re afraid of Colorado because of gun ownership, you should visit DC and Chicago! Their strict gun control laws surely have led to low murder rates! I wonder if there’s a murder statistic or something that could shine some light on this mystery!
July 26, 2012 at 5:42 am #764688
jamminjMemberJV, amazed you are talking about abortion, when you back a party that wants to take away health care to people. Like I always said, GOP – pro-life.. until you are born, then it’s fk u..
July 26, 2012 at 5:49 am #764689
dobroParticipant“…Just trying to brainstorm how to do this better, das all.”
I’d suggest dropping the dopey accent and thinking twice before hitting “post”.
July 26, 2012 at 5:50 am #764690
kootchmanMemberJuly 26, 2012 at 5:56 am #764691
kootchmanMemberjamminj… I am GOP… and I am not pleased about abortion. It;s not a deciding issue for me. But.. having that right.. does not mean that folks of sincere conscience need fund it. It should go under the heading of “elective” surgery.. unless it is not.. RIDoM… the two parties can fund it themselves.
July 26, 2012 at 5:57 am #764692
kootchmanMemberHey DPB… it’s easier to get a firearm here than CO. See ya later.. where ya moving to? Keep in touch.
July 26, 2012 at 7:48 am #764693
megMemberKootchman, he is a wild-looking thang. Can’t tell if he got a dopey accent or no, but he sho’ got some damn strange and glorious eyeballs!
Srsly, citizens, I’m way more interested in what creates someone like him, than in worrying about guns. What powerful forces bring him to such dangerous alienation? Are there aspects of our society for us to look at more closely? Or, will we gladly write this one off as just another psychotically diseased mind?
I just found & read this article in Chicgo Tribune:
So with no formal diagnosis, they theorize perhaps ‘rage against the world’ may have been his motivation. OK, but for me a more compelling question is, what powerful forces of alienation *pushed him* to that rage? And a shirttail relative would be, are there others being slowly pushed into that same rage right now? (not talking copy-cats here) Of course there are different psychological profiles with various coping mechanisms. Not everyone handles a powerful force such as alienation in the same way. There are plenty who become addicts, suicides, abusers, etc. The article ends with a bit about red and yellow warning flags, and how the red flag isn’t always clear until afterwards in the bloody aftermath. I don’t believe it. I don’t believe our society wants to see the warning flags ahead of time. I don’t believe we want to shine the search-beams upon our selves. Do you think differently?
Thought, “Twice”. Then pressed post.
July 26, 2012 at 2:07 pm #764694
redblackParticipantLet’s talk about reasons why people don’t ‘like’ private gun ownership.
sure. but i’ll tell you right now that your assumptions about liberals and guns are probably wrong, despite what the NRA tells you.
to quote wyatt cenak, “hey, we got guns, too.”
and, kootch, your little check to the NRA doesn’t amount to doodly-squat when compared to the flood of money from the gun and ammo manufacturing lobbies. and, lord how the money rolls in when you gin up some second amendment fears.
it’s a sales job, and they have plenty of suckers to choose from.
they say, “be afraid! it’s almost here! buy guns!”
and you dutifully reply, “how many!? got any high-capacity clips?”
can’t have the fed’rals bustin’ up my moonshine still, dontcha know.
July 26, 2012 at 2:31 pm #764695
whuutMemberI have a rock. It’s an “assault” rock. Figure it out.
-
AuthorPosts
- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.