No…not going to go see it. Not because of any reasons you may come up with, JV. I don’t go to movies much. But mostly, I have no use for Dinesh D’Souza. Never have. He’s Fox News. He’s way too conservative for my taste, and frankly, this whole thing is one man’s opinion. We all know what that’s worth. Basically, we don’t have to see it to know what propaganda is in it. Sigh.

Karl Rove must be sitting back laughing like crazy. His and his cronies’ “make Obama into the Anti-Christ” campaign strategy is working and so many American sheep are lining up right behind him.

JV . . . I’ll see it with you if you’re interested.

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“Why would anyone choose to go see a propaganda film?”

Ask Michael Moore.

Smitty..

do you not see that one of these things is not like the other?

Although Michael Moore’s films are biased by his worldview, his films explore ideas.

This is a film from a politicized viewpoint about a Presidential candidate in an election year less than 3 months before the election designed to make viewers believe that the fictional Obama is the real Obama.

if this was about Mitt you would be howling.

FYI.. i haven’t seen Michael Moores films by choice. I don’t particularly like his style.

However, I have read much of the substantiating material from his films and find myself in agreement with his world view… which btw is nearly as critical at times of democrats as of republicans.

lololol…JV..you gotta meet JoB in person…you know not what of you speak – lololol…

Isn’t it terrible JoB??!!! Imagine releasing a movie before an election to tilt the vote… Man fron Hope… PT 109…… hey.. and compromise national security with a puff film put together by a Hollywood Team for Obama on Seal Team Six and Bin Laden? Or was that for the national archives? ha ha ha… now that “No Easy Day” is out that spin piece and charade is over.. they want that hero in jail … pronto! The Amateur ? … where is it on the NY Times bestseller list? #1 or #2? And where is Obama;s America in hard cover? #1 ? Like the old saying goes… when you liberals are in the tank for Obama along with the cohorts of liberal media… “The free press is a wonderful thing….. when you own the presses” … when conservatives own their own press … oh, my god, they are inveterate hawkers of propaganda,,,

The group of former CIA agents, Navy SEALs and other military members recently released a long-form political ad blasting Obama for security leaks on his watch,

Don’t ya support a free press now?

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/21/dempsey-disappointed-by-anti-obama-campaign-by-ex-military-members/undefined?intcmp=obinsite#ixzz25FOnFZSI

I listened to an NPR interview yesterday where Dsouza “explained” his film.

when asked why he would include material from the earlier part of Obama’s college career but not that from the later part when maturity tempered those earlier enthusiasms…

Dsouza said that his statements didn’t count because he didn’t recant.

When told that some of the people interviewed in the film were misled about what their interview was about and how it would be used and/or complained that their interview was edited to portray a misleading viewpoint he claimed editorial discretion.

When it was pointed out that although he called his film a documentary his viewpoint was rather one sided.. he said that he picked a point of view and edited to present it…

Is this what passes for truth now? You pick a hypothesis and throw out all information that disproves it and add in any speculation that does?

this, btw.. is why i don’t choose to watch Michael Moore’s films.

Although i have not read comments that would lead me to believe that he crosses the line as far as Dsouza does to make his point… for me the drama and exaggeration undercut the impact of the information in his films.

When he speaks.. i listen. He speaks well.

shock jock journalism and shock jock documentaries don’t teach you much except just how stupid and banal the other side can be.

that said.. here is Bill Maher exchange with Dsouza…

http://samuel-warde.com/2012/09/bill-maher-destroys-dinesh-dsouza/

i’d sooner watch birth of a nation again. i can’t take a man who wants to end the civil rights act seriously.

OK, so if the rest of you guys see the movie with me and JV, you can sit there and groan every time you see something offensive.

Wouldn’t that be satisfying?

kootch, ya comin’ with?

and none of us are making documentaries that are anti-Obama coming out right before the election. We all have our opinions…and are entitled to them. There’s a big difference in what we say here, and to our neighbors, etc. and what Mr. D’Souza is doing.

Have another drink, Kman :)

You are reviewing a movie you haven;t seen? I like your open mindedness. Haven’t seen? There are more coming… OPSEC is ginning up their machine too… the ads and air time buys are coming. Truth is now the biggest megaphone… JaN ? Farehnheit 9/11 was an anti-Bush pre-election trashing.. it has happened before. It was released the summer before the Bush/Kerry election. Let’s not hear the bullshit it has never happened before. Democrats were giddy as I recall.

It may be revealing how much Obama missed by not having a guiding male figure in his life. It may be a substantive argument… we look deep into the life of historical figures to see … Abraham Lincoln had a very supportive, encouraging mother bey every account, Adolf Hitler had a hard abusive, violent father… we make connections all the time.. Alexander the Great had King Philip of Macedon as an early life influence … abandonment and a casual parenting may have indeed made Obama the person he is. Maybe the bigamy of his father and the abandonment made him perpetually flawed? Let’s all go watch the move and find out?!