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  • #704382
    austin
    Member

    The problem with that analogy DP is that with legalizing the pot you’re talking about increased control (full unregulated legalization of cannabis is a pipe dream), while putting liquor in grocery stores decreases the government control of the substance. The cannabis market is currently in a state of anarchy with occasional police interdiciton while the booze market is fairly locked down. Two opposite ends of the spectrum.

    Also, as one may be aware, abusing mj and booze have very different effects on the human body and mind from one another, it’s an apples to oranges comparison from that perspective.

    #596519

    There is a very nice card spinner and a large floor bookshelf sitting outside Square One Books. Both are free! I expect the maintenance man may throw them away as soon as he discovers them. Two strong men and a truck would be needed for the shelf. Please come rescue them before they are tossed!

    JoB
    Participant

    My morning email contained a link to a Mother Jones article that aptly illustrates the difference between disagreeing with ideas and calling people names…

    kinda like Jon Stewart’s “i disagree with you but i don’t think you are Hitler”.

    This is something we have struggled with off and on here on the forum and i thought perhaps it might be easier to see when it doesn’t involve any of us personally.

    Although it can hurt to see your ideas attacked… attacking ideas is very different from attacking people.

    A Michele Bachmann/Bill Clinton Smackdown

    this is what Bill Clinton is reported to have said..

    “Your opponent is the ultimate example of putting ideology over evidence…I respect people with a conservative philosophy. This country has been well-served by having two broad traditions within which people can operate. If you have a philosophy, it means you’re generally inclined one way or the other but you’re open to evidence. If you have an ideology, it means everything is determined by dogma and you’re impervious to evidence. Evidence is irrelevant That’s how I see Rep. Bachmann. She’s very attractive in saying all these things she says, but it’s pretty stupid.”

    What Michelle Bachman heard is that he called her stupid.. not that what she was doing was pretty stupid. There is a difference.

    In these days of ideology trumping philosophy that difference is getting more difficult to see all of the time:(

    Jon Stewart’s rational man rally is looking more attractive all of the time.

    #703888
    Ken
    Participant

    http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/

    my isp is my former employer (wolfenet). I was the network operations manager at the time of DSL roll out in Seattle.

    I admit the ISP end was setup with no limit and several features not available to casual customers, but I was told the limiting factor for current speeds below 1.5 was the setting in the ISP end of the circuit. Now that I think of it, since I use transparent bridging (RFC1483 Bridged) the carrier qwest cannot limit my speed below the ATM wirespeed of the dslam I am connected to at the CO. PPPOE and PPPOA customers would be different since qwest owns the first tcp/ip hop in the network path.

    #704495
    JanS
    Participant

    HelperMonkey…thanks for the review. Will make watching my friend bowl in league all that much better…except…can’t have salt or cured meats :(

    but ..I can play around with burgers, I’m bettin’ ;-)

    #703887
    redblack
    Participant

    ken: nyet! (edit: well, maybe this doesn’t apply to new subscriptions…)

    i am currently running 256kbps DSL on qwest lines with a second-party ISP based in vancouver, WA. and i have been for about 10 years. i was one of the first private citizens in the city on the DSL bandwagon.

    .

    it’s only been in the last year that i have had the option of upgrading to 1.5 Mbps for an increase of only $10/month.

    .

    yeah, i’m a “slowsky,” but my gaming days are over – for a little while. email, music, and photos take up the bulk of my CPU time, so i have no real need for fast-loading content.

    #703342
    charlabob
    Participant

    angelescrestk@gmail.com

    angelescrestk — you left out an “e” — it’s always safest to cut and paste addresses :-)

    #704476
    pd245
    Member

    I love this book! Thanks for the suggestion. Exactly why I have to give these away, and I’ve replaced them with a phormium tenax and dwarf hemlock. Ill be looking for female juniper cultivars listed in the book to add more evergreens in my garden. Thanks again.

    linasenzerrose
    Participant

    This will probably go up on the main WSB page but I thought I would also post it to the Forum too.

    As the deadline for residents in South Seattle to apply to receive FREE TREES for their yard or parking strip approaches, I need your help to get the word out! We have had in incredible response so far and 450 trees have been requested-but we have more left to give. The Trees for Neighborhoods program is a partnership between the city of Seattle and EarthCorps designed to increase the city’s tree canopy coverage by distributing free trees to interested residents for planting on private and street right-of-way property.

    More info on the program can be found at:

    http://www.seattle.gov/trees/treesforneighborhoods.htm

    I am happy to work directly with residents to select appropriate trees and complete the application. A list of the Target Areas, available trees with pictures can all be viewed at the above link. Residents are welcome to call or email me with any questions. We are now out of Magnolia, Serviceberry and Dogwood trees. I have been encouraging residents to go for the largest trees appropriate for their property to maximize the community benefit of the tree.

    Please feel free to circulate this note far and wide to blogs, listserves, email lists, Facebook Pages etc. If you participated in the 2009 Seattle Community ReLeaf program (the pilot program to Trees for Neighborhoods), you are not not eligible to apply for more free trees this year – sorry!

    Lina Rose, EarthCorps Project Manager

    lina ‘at’ earthcorps ‘dot’ org

    #703339
    JustSarah
    Participant

    I think if I really wanted a particular job, I’d heed the instructions of the employer; in this case, e-mail my letter of interest and a resume.

    And if I were a mother looking for a dependable, on-call caretaker for my special-needs child, I don’t think I’d choose a person who couldn’t take the initiative to e-mail me.

    Maybe I’m crazy (if so, I bet angelescrest is just as nuts!). :-)

    As many students return to school this month we are calling attention to the numbers of students who are being left behind – we have organized a discussion and information sharing forum on the dire state of our education system and we hope you’ll join us tonight for this important event.

    WHO: Teachers, parents, education advocates, students and those interested in making a difference.

    WHAT: Education Nation Seattle “Meetup” – An opportunity to have a lively and constructive discussion around the state of education in our area and what we can do locally as a community –and as individuals – to improve education for our kids.

    The program will include:

    •Moderation by David Moore, president of Junior Achievement of Washington, an organization that bridges the gap between what students are learning in schools and its application to the real world

    •Clips and videos from recent news coverage and interviews about education in America

    •Organized discussion topics and an interactive question & answer period

    WHEN: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 from 6:00 p.m. to 7:30 p.m. PST

    WHERE: Sound Room at Bell Harbor International Conference Center SOUND ROOM 2209 Alaskan Way Seattle, WA 98121

    RSVP: Online at http://www.meetup.com/NBCNews/27522/

    Providence is calling Part-time Preschool Teachers.

    This position is responsible for the overall care of children in the Intergenerational Learning Center. This includes the planning and implementation of an age appropriate program, development of interesting, stimulating and challenging indoor and outdoor environment and planning appropriate daily activities. This position is also responsible for developing an intergenerational program and nurturing interaction between clients and children. Included in these responsibilities are maintaining the classroom, preparing materials for the children and certain clerical and record keeping duties.

    Position Specifics.

    This position is located at Providence Mount St. Vincent in West Seattle, WA. This is a part time (0.625 FTE = 25 hours per week), day shift, benefits eligible position.

    REQUIREMENTS

    Education: Associates degree in Childhood Development or at least 12 credits of Early Childhood Education as determined by the program manager. Must be registered in Washington STARS Registry for early childhood personnel. If teacher has earned the 20 Hour Basic Certificate in a previous year, s/he must accumulate 10 clock hours in early childhood education, with 4 hours in diversity education annually.

    Licenses/Certifications: First Aid, CPR (infant, child, adult cards) and AIDS/HIV Certificate required. Candidate must also attend an annual Blood Born Pathogen class and get a Food Handlers Permit within 90 days of hire.

    Experience: Ability to communicate effectively in English both verbally and in writing. Three years experience related to early childhood teaching outside Providence Mount St. Vincent (PMSV) or two years experience in Intergenerational Learning Center at PMSV preferred.

    We´re seeking an individual who performs all duties in a manner that promotes teamwork and reflects the Mission and Philosophy of our founders, the Sisters of Providence.

    Answer the call to help the greater good.

    Providence Health & Services is comprised of 60 medical facilities in five states with more than 51,000 employees carrying out its mission of meeting the health needs of the communities we serve. For more than 150 years, this not-for-profit healthcare network has called professionals to work together to live our mission of compassionate care, quality service and commitment to excellence established by our founders, the Sisters of Providence.

    In more than 40 locations in Washington and Montana, career opportunities are available in a wide-range of facilities and services, including large, award-winning medical centers, smaller community hospitals, skilled nursing facilities and hospice & home health programs, each known for their high quality care. Whether you´re interested in working near the ocean, the mountains, wide open spaces or urban settings, we have a ministry for you.

    Answer the call. Providenceiscalling.org

    When applying online, please refer to position #73754

    Apply Online:

    http://www.jobclub.com/banman/a.aspx?ZoneID=0&BannerID=550&AdvertiserID=47&CampaignID=2130&Task=Click&SiteID=1&RandomNumber=626889

    Providence Health & Services is an Equal Opportunity Employer who provides competitive benefits, a drug-free workplace and supports work/life balance.

    #704177

    In reply to: God is imaginary

    HolyKow
    Member

    And to all those that claim that we should use the bible as the basis for the law…..

    hk

    1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and

    female, provided they are purchased from neighbouring nations. A friend of

    mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you

    clarify? Why can’t I own Canadians?

    2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in

    Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price

    for her?

    3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in

    her period of Menstrual uncleanliness – Lev.15: 19-24. The problem is how

    do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

    4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates

    a pleasing odour for the Lord – Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbours.

    They claim the odour is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

    5. I have a neighbour who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus

    35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to

    kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?

    6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an

    abomination, Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I

    don’t agree. Can you settle this? Are there ‘degrees’ of abomination?

    7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I

    have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses.

    Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle-room here?

    8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the

    hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev.

    19:27. How should they die?

    9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig

    makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

    10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two

    different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments

    made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also

    tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to

    all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them?

    Lev.24:10-16. Couldn’t we just burn them to death at a private family

    affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

    #704176

    In reply to: God is imaginary

    HolyKow
    Member

    I have to point out that the seperation of church and state is NOT specifically present in any form in the Constitution. It was an idea that was supported first by a sitting president in 1802 in a letter to the Danbury Baptists by then president, Thomas Jefferson.

    This is one of the primary places where we devise that the Founding Fathers were in favor of non-theocratic form of government, unlike the Christian Extremists that are attempting to further hijack our government in the name of god and “HIS” teachings (so far as their selective readings of those “teachings” are).

    The letter to the Danbury Baptists below,

    hk

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    To messers. Nehemiah Dodge, Ephraim Robbins, & Stephen S. Nelson, a committee of the Danbury Baptist association in the state of Connecticut.

    Gentlemen

    The affectionate sentiments of esteem and approbation which you are so good as to express towards me, on behalf of the Danbury Baptist association, give me the highest satisfaction. my duties dictate a faithful and zealous pursuit of the interests of my constituents, & in proportion as they are persuaded of my fidelity to those duties, the discharge of them becomes more and more pleasing.

    Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should “make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,” *thus building a wall of separation between Church & State*. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties.

    I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection & blessing of the common father and creator of man, and tender you for yourselves & your religious association, assurances of my high respect & esteem.

    Th Jefferson

    Jan. 1. 1802.

    #704369
    JustSarah
    Participant

    Thank you, Carson. Washington already bars the sale of alcohol between the hours of 02:00 and 06:00 (those early-morning “after-party” hours JoB is referencing). You cannot buy beer or wine during that time *anywhere* in our state. I assume that law would be applicable to hard alcohol, as well.

    The fear surrounding I-1100 is ridiculous. Our lawmakers are not complete idiots. There would be measures enacted to control liquor sales and to adequately tax them, just as in almost every other state.

    #704368
    Carson
    Participant

    Why can’t sensible laws be passed limiting liquor sales? Many many states don’t sell after a certain hour (8pm in CT, 11pm in MA). Why can’t they limit the number of places that sell hard alcohol like they currently do with restaurants? Everyone assumes if one of both of these passes that it will become the Wild Wild West. Stop buying the hype.

    #596510
    Blitztour
    Member

    I’m trying to locate any of the four or five individuals who witnessed an accident on California Ave, between Massachusetts St and SW Seattle St directly across from the Park West Care Center.

    The incident occurred Sat morning 9/25/2010, at approx 9:35 AM and involved a woman driving a Blue Oldsmobile and a bicyclist on a blue Specialized Cross bike.

    If you were one of the people who stopped to help, could you please call 253-813-2666 and ask for Al…and thanks for stopping ; )

    #704364
    GenHillOne
    Participant

    OF COURSE there are lots of other factors to consider, but all three/six sides are using financial/budget/service impact to make their cases. I have to vote on all three so they are linked in my mind. This was simply a search for the financial piece because I hadn’t seen it in other discussions, which already do include the points you’re making.

    #704481
    mommym
    Participant

    Hi – I would love to help you out with your cats. I have dog & cat sat for several families in WS and other cities while they are away and have good references.

    I would be happy to come over twice a day – feed, water, clean litter box(es) and play with your cats. I can also bring in the mail, adjust the lights/curtains and take out the trash on garbage day if necessary.

    Let me know if I can help !

    chorsegirl at yahoo

    #704170

    In reply to: God is imaginary

    JoB
    Participant

    anonyme..

    science demands scrutiny?

    LOL.. believing that takes real faith.

    i live each day with one of those “mystery” illnesses… a mystery because science hasn’t caught up with it’s cause and likely won’t until the scientist at the CDC who labeled it hysteria in the 80s retires…

    religion isn’t the only place where one encounters dogged literalism to one’s dismay.

    the good news is that there are still scientists who choose to question…

    and believers who do the same.

    as for that female cult thing…

    it’s a joke..

    the only gender god has is that designated by man… who has used it to abuse women.

    still.. every belief system starts with a story

    even atheism.

    Ken..

    i was raised in one of those households myself… and have a son who has made the same choice.

    and yet.. my faith survived…

    now that is true miracle ;-)

    #704166

    In reply to: God is imaginary

    anonyme
    Participant

    One difference between science and theism is that science not only welcomes scrutiny, it demands it. Ascribing to a cult of female deities does not change the fact that political, patriarchal Gods continue to persecute women the world over. Sadly, it would appear that a matriarchal God is just as impotent and apathetic as that other one.

    Man made God in his own image. Or hers.

    #704163

    In reply to: God is imaginary

    Ken
    Participant

    Bible based marriage laws:

    A. Marriage in the United States shall consist of a union between one man and one or more women. (Gen 29:17-28; II Sam 3:2-5)

    B. Marriage shall not impede a man’s right to take concubines in addition to his wife or wives. (II Sam 5:13; I Kings 11:3; II Chron 11:21)

    C. A marriage shall be considered valid only if the wife is a virgin. If the wife is not a virgin, she shall be executed. (Deut 22:13-21)

    D. Marriage of a believer and a non-believer shall be forbidden. (Gen 24:3; Num 25:1-9; Ezra 9:12; Neh 10:30)

    E. Since marriage is for life, neither this Constitution nor the constitution of any State, nor any state or federal law, shall be construed to permit divorce. (Deut 22:19; Mark 10:9)

    F. If a married man dies without children, his brother shall marry the widow. If he refuses to marry his brother’s widow or deliberately does not give her children, he shall pay a fine of one shoe and be otherwise punished in a manner to be determined by law. (Gen 38:6-10; Deut 25:5-10)

    G. In lieu of marriage, if there are no acceptable men in your town, it is required that you get your dad drunk and have sex with him (even if he had previously offered you up as a sex toy to men young and old), tag-teaming with any sisters you may have. Of course, this rule applies only if you are female. (Gen 19:31-36)

    — Hunter

    #703372

    In reply to: Who should I vote 4?

    redblack
    Participant

    jo, no, it really isn’t funny, but it’s true.

    it’s even less funny when i hear obama talking about how, so far, his administration has “rejected protectionism.”

    wtf?? china protects its trade and currency; so does germany; so does japan. they are *not* going to open their markets to american goods, no matter how much the free-traders whine.

    if we want to get out of the fiscal mess we’re in, we should start filling the coffers by raising some tariffs, raising the cost of foreign goods, and making american goods competitive at home again.

    #704316
    anonyme
    Participant

    dhg, no I didn’t have them in West Seattle, I had them in a Queen Anne apartment. They were mostly in smallish containers (one per container – they are cannibalistic, after all) neatly arranged in bookcases. Most of the 600 were spiderlings, the result of an all-too-successful mating of two curly-hair tarantulas. Eventually I donated my ‘collection’ to a University in the midwest.

    CBoffoli, birds DO eat spiders – a lot of them. I’ve seen birds hovering in front of one of the large orb weavers webs (so misappreciated on this thread) ready to pluck it out like a tasty gumball. Hummingbird nests contain a high quantity of spider silk, and they enjoy spider snacks as well. Some Amazonian tribes roast and eat large tarantulas, using the sizable fangs for toothpicks afterward. However, the greatest predator of spiders is other spiders.

    #704154

    In reply to: God is imaginary

    JustSarah
    Participant

    BigPhil, I have to admit that when you mentioned in your initial post that you moved here from Colorado Springs, I was the slightest bit… curious, we’ll say, about how “Colorado Springy” you are. I have read a lot about how conservative that city is, and yes, how evangelical the population tends to be. Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs, of course, but I came from a decidedly non-religious background (not atheist, but certainly not devout), so I don’t generally relate well to people with very strong religious convictions.

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