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[WSMom]

There’s a patch of seemingly unused land at the south end of West Seattle HS (next to the Episcopal church) that I think would be a wonderful spot for a pea-patch. It’s already fenced and gets lots of sunshine. I wonder how one goes about siteing a new pea patch? It could be a great opportunity for the high school students to learn hands-on organic gardening etc.

[Kayleigh]

JoB, many many young women I know don’t care for Hillary (and I am referring to Democratic women here, in our 20s and 30s.) To imply that because we disagree with you, we must be victims of the right wing hate machine is insulting. Reasonable people can disagree about the best direction for the party (which I still think would have been Edwards, actually). The Old Democrat ways don’t work any more and have not stopped the neo-cons from doing their damage to the country. We have to try a different way, and maybe Obama can offer that (maybe he can’t, but I know Hillary can’t, or she would have showed it by now.)

NewResident, are you even a Democrat?

[JimmyG]

So did you call the city?

I’m not sure what law the owners would be violating by not fixing it right away–probably waiting for insurance $$ to fix it.

[Anonymous]

Prayingman’s comments are exactly why it’s frustrating and futile to discuss religion. The friendly I’m just stating my opinion routine is a fallacy. There is no mutual respect for my choices. In the end, you still turn your “opinions” into a sermon and an attempt to recruit. You still choose to not accept my beliefs by stating you know god works through EVERYONE. Really? That insults me. Keep your god to yourself or to those that ask. It’s not like there is a living, breathing person that hasn’t been made aware of religion.

People like to use the line “you’re just anti-christian” to excuse their constantly bad behavior. It’s rude to try and sell something to those who aren’t interested in buying. I can’t believe how many times a discussion has turned into someone listing bible verses on how to get saved. Would it be ok to turn every new sponsor thread into a personal pitch for Amway and Mary Kay? I’m really surprised this is such a hard concept to comprehend.

Sorry Ken. Can I start a new thread for you to get back on topic?

[Ken]

I did not start this thread to discuss religion.

Religion seems to be involved because it is pretty much only the subset of christianist who think the literal interpretation of genesis and other tales from the Bible should trump not only paleontology and biology but geology, cosmology, astronomy, genetics and a hundred other fields of study, who also seek the political power to ram that insanity down the throats of the rest of is.

http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/WeyrichManual.html#anchor474909

If you want to experiment with the living conditions inside a whale, be my guest.

http://kingjbible.com/jonah/1.htm

If you want to attempt to breed animals of various coloration by controlling what they see when they drink water, go for it and the best of luck to you.

http://bible.cc/genesis/30-37.htm

But if you expect sane humans to allow the idiots among us to control the education of public school children in a way that denies all reason and rationality, all measurable evidence and observable interaction, and tries to equate astronomy with astrology, then we shall have a fight for the future.

Children can recover from the fairy tales of youth as long as they are allowed to think and learn.

They may not recover from dogma taught as science.

Now mainstream Christians seem to get upset when I point out the ugly side of the Fundamentalist Bibliolatry. I can only assume it to be for one reason. Your particular sect or denomination has been slowly poisoned by the same heresy. The worship of the Bible rather than the Deity.

http://www.newreformation.org/heresy3.htm

Science and especially Evolution has nothing to say concerning the origins of the universe or matters of faith. But it torments those who would use peoples spiritual nature as a means to control them, and enslave their God given minds and intelligence.

“If we go back to the beginning we shall find that ignorance and fear created the gods; that fancy, enthusiasm, or deceit adorned or disfigured them; that weakness worships them; that credulity preserves them, and that custom, respect and tyranny support them in order to make the blindness of men serve its own interests.”

— Paul-Henri Thiry, baron d’Holbach (1723 – 1789)

[Anonymous]

I recommended her in another thread and I can’t say enough good things about her, but Eileen with Go Paws Go is WONDERFUL! I don’t know about the short notice, she has always been able to accommodate us, though. She is really great. I would check into it.

[hopey]

I unfortunately need to go out of town soon, on short notice, and my regular dog walker/sitter will not be able to care for my two dogs while I am gone.

I am open to sending my dogs someplace for overnight care, but will only consider a home-like environment. I have one 14 month old 60 lb. dog and a 5 month old puppy.

Does anyone have an in-house overnight dogsitter they trust who might be available on short notice? or a “home pet care” service to recommend? Thanks!

[Crowe]

Ok, so we do have a P-Patch, but…would anyone be interested in saving a vacant lot hopefully from development, and trying to secure a spot for a second WS P-Patch, or community garden?

Thanks to Jill I found more info and the P-Patch folks could help by finding a way to buy or lease the land, and getting it started. Maybe this is a lot to take on? But if we could save some of WS from development…?

[Jill]

Hi Crowe, Yes, not being able to garden is a dire situation indeed! :) According to the Dept. of Neighborhoods site, there’s one at Lincoln Park. Interesting! I normally stick to the perimeter down on the beach, so I don’t recall ever seeing it! I bet the site would have info on how to start a new one, too, here it is (if my link works correctly):

http://www.cityofseattle.net/Neighborhoods/ppatch/locations/50.htm

[Crowe]

Is there a Pea Patch in WS? I love to garden, but now live in an apt. Must get hands in earth!

If there isn’t, would anyone like to discuss starting one?

Thanks

[Anonymous]

JanS, I completely agree. Nobody wants to see the two candidates going at each other (well, I guess some people do). But wouldn’t it be better if they could be completely respectful of each other and have nothing negative to say about the other?

Kind of along those lines, and I know that nobody will agree with me, but I did think it was really tacky and classless of Hillary to speak so negatively about Bush. NOBODY is ecstatic about what he’s done while in office, but he is currently the President. If you are running for President, I think it shows poor judgment to speak badly about the current President.

[JanS]

the idealism in me would like that neither side unleash their “slime machine” on the other candidate…that’s politics as usual. That’s what we’re all tired of…it turns us off on either side…to the nit picking about “words”…to the impression that Obama is not qualified (he meets the criteria to run). I know this is an over simplification, but, geez, aren’t you all tired of the politics as usual bashing?And we wonder why people get turned off. Neither Democratic candidate, if either wins the presidency, is going to do what they have stated about the war, about health care, etc. alone…so all the positioning and promising is just that, positioning and promising. I guess I still need a little convincing on either candidate… I have to decide who has the best promises – and I’m not hearing that in the debates…IMO…

I get a bit cynical at times. I love Hillary, I totally admire Mr. Obama…but negative campaigning totally turns me off.

[JoB]

seattle dog works doesn’t take aggressive dogs. (any dog who has bitten). i did call them.

they take “problem” dogs.. those who are out of control (don’t mind their owners) .. but not aggressive dogs.

in fact, most places don’t. So those of us with those dogs are left with few options.

[JoB]

Kayleigh…

i think that is because Clinton supporters are constantly under attack:)

When you can’t point out that Clinton might have more foreign experience.. just from her days as First Lady (she actually knows everyone) and her work on women’s issues than Obama had from living overseas when he was very young…

or that a woman as president might be seen as change by the world just as easily as a black man with a message….

or that working for a living isn’t exactly a crime in these United States…

or that getting sucked in with the rest of America… not too many nay votes on that one… doesn’t mean “she didn’t mean it”. It means that she was convinced we were going to actually pursue some diplomacy before plunging headlong into war…

or that there is a substantial difference between sitting in the senate and voting along with most of the rest of the democrats before the war and stating your opinion as a citizen (pre-campaign) after the war had already been waged….

or that changing her political affiliation when she became old enough to know better doesn’t really count … she was a kid and even from today’s perspective the buys a little breathing room…

or that working tirelessly for the democratic party… including on Obama’s campaign for the senate does count… it’s called “paying your dues” and she has been doing it even while campaigning.

or that having experience and influence in the business and political arena might just mean that she might know how to get some difficult things done…

when you can’t mention any of those things (without attacking Obama in any way)… without being attacked by Obama supporters … something is wrong.

generally this happens when people are defensive about the position they have taken… or have one they can’t actually defend.

But i don’t think that’s really it here. You could admit all of those things about Hillary and still support Obama. so it has to be something more.

The more is that it has become a national sport to hillary hate… a sport instigated by republicans. think it through… it may not be in your best interests to buy into that.

and… how exactly does a campaign of Hillary hating (or at the least baiting) tie into this percieved notion we have of Obama’s “high road” campaign… this is not a respectful way to campaign against another person…

and no… Obama doesn’t have to actually do it.. he only has to sit back and let his supporters… and those who manage his campaign… do it without making comment.

however, bill (who was certainly inside the clinton campaign) can’t make any kind of comment defending his wife without it being blown entirely out of proportion and labeled Obama bashing. That is a huge double standard… and only possible because of the long history of Clinton bashing.

Nope, not much high road there… Not much courtesy either.

[PrayingMan-tis-i]

WOW! Where to begin? Would it be wrong of me to assume there’s a bit of an anti-christian, anti-religous whirlwind here??? I’m not perfect, nor do I profess to be the most knowledgable when compared to my own shadow, but maybe some of you have over-analized everything. It’s your right, and I’m not here to change anyone’s mind. Would I love for all of you to understand Christians and get to know my God? Yeah, but I ain’t stupid either.

What I absolutely LOVE about this thread is that some of you were so quick to tear down the few Christian posts and their thoughts that you forgot to look in the mirror. You see, I’m also not your ordinary Christian – yeah, you all have stereotypes…we all do. I’m not your conservative, right-wing, pro-life, evangalical, republican, caucasian Christian. After being around some lifers, I’m very glad that I’m not either because they’re as jaded as some of you. Evolution or creation? Ask me if I care. Chicken or the egg; Really people, which came first??? I want to continue, but I suspect this was enough to stir the hornet’s nest.

* Anyway, to be a little more direct, Kayleigh, you were so quick to rip on someone else’s post and then cry foul. ARE YOU SERIOUS?! REALLY??

* How about some accountability, people? What I get from the bible is that we’re asked to be accountable not just to others, but to ourselves. We each have our own boundaries though, so you got me there.

* Christians think they’re better than you or holier than thou? Some do, but they’re the extremists…some of your counterparts, if you will. If you ask me, I don’t believe I’m either of those over anyone. What I can tell you is that Christians are called upon to be humble and to be servants of Christ. Believe me, calling myself a Christian isn’t something said so easily. Try living up to your own claims. Personally, I think that’s where many people part ways…Christians or not. Yes, you and Brother X can say and claim that you can be humble and be a servant, but the proof is how you live your life. Believe me, I’m not saying non-Christians don’t do these things. However, God uses EVERYONE in His way and carries out His will at His time. Again, this is what I believe.

* You think God is a myth or some irrational belief? Ask yourself that when you reach bottom and He’s there to pick you up. Just remember, it’s not His responsibility to do it for you. If there’s one thing that’s clear in my mind and heart, it’s that God gives us the CHOICE to go to Him.

Where’s your tolerance, people? Haven’t we giggled at one another’s posts, discussed politics and other things good and dumb??

As for me, I want to represent someone who wants to badly be worthy of being called a Christian. Do I? Nope, because I’m human, but I’m striving for it. I don’t do that by making enemies or being your excuse as to why you’re not a Christian. Live your lives, and maybe one day we’ll look back together at this conversation.

As a final thought, I say to those who ARE curious about Christ and religion and read these boards, there’s no perfect formula, but we can work together toward redefining all of these false impressions that separate us.

[Huindekmi]

JoB, Clinton isn’t disliked. She’s HATED.

Hated with an intense passion by the far right, who will come out in droves to the polls to vote for a candidate they otherwise would turn their backs on just to prevent her from being elected.

Hated by many independents and swing voters – the type of people whose support is needed to actually win an election.

Hated by a large group of career politicians who place an ‘R’ behind their names. These are the people a president has to work WITH in order to accomplish anything significant.

You may believe that any Democratic candidate will engender the same intense hate from the opposing party. I don’t. Hillary has done much to bring this hate upon herself. It’s her “my way or the highway” approach to management that turns people away from her.

Remember her universal health care proposal? The proposal was considered too far reaching by many. There was also a bipartisan proposal in Congress (which looks a lot like the current proposals from both Hillary and Obama). She shot that thing down. Wouldn’t even work with the sponsors of the bill. When her proposal went down in flames, even though both houses of Congress were controlled by Democrats, she still refused to compromise. To this day, she STILL doesn’t speak with the Republican sponsors of that bill. Holding grudges. Refusal to compromise. Refusal to listen to counsel. Refusal to work with even the moderate members of the opposing party. And this is the type of executive experience that you want leading the country????

Face it. A vote for Hillary is a vote for a McCain administration. I’ll admit, there is a very slim and fading chance that Hillary could win, in which case it’s a vote for four years of intense partisan bickering and no progress. Woo Hoo!

Thank you, but I’ll vote for the candidate who is capable of inspiring, leading and uniting. We’ve already had too much division.

[charlabob]

OK — Here’s my take on the war, which is still the critical election issue to many of us.

No one (president or congress critter) is going to be able to end the war as quickly as we’d like. It has momentum; it has legs. It will go on in some form and most of us will be hugely disappointed.

If Obama opposed the war “from the beginning,” why did he select Joe Lieberman as his mentor when he entered the senate? Even when Lieberman was still claiming to be a Democrat, he was the main democratic hawk in the Senate.

There are at least three possible reasons for the choice: The war wasn’t that important to Obama and he thought he’d get something else useful from being a Liebercrat. Or, he agreed with Lieberman’s view of the war. Or (sadder and more likely) he though that might be the winning position.

The bob half thinks Hill isn’t raising the issue because she (as a Democratic Leadership Council-crat) doesn’t want to trash Lieberman. The charla half thinks the Hill campaign is being much too careful in general about selecting attack issues.

Attacks on Obama are met by major whining and not much else. “That’s not fair,” is a familiar theme. The republican slime machine won’t play fair. If the Obama campaign isn’t ready to fight (dirty or clean), they’re going to lose and the folks who supported him because he could win will, once again, be disappointed.

But we’re used to it– the Kerry and Dole presidencies didn’t work out too well either.

c

who can argue convincingly for either or both, because, sadly, she still wants edwards

[Anonymous]

We had to go out of town for a few days and instead of taking our dog to a day care, we decided to let her stay in her own home and have someone come see her periodically. We used Go paws Go and LOVED it. Eileen, the owner, came twice a day and played with our dog, took her for walks and checked her food and water. I could not recommend Eileen enough. She was fantastic. We also have her come sometimes during the day while we are at work. She is great!

[Anonymous]

I have to say, since I watched part of the debate last night, I don’t see the charisma in Obama. What charisma? Compared to Clinton, he looked uncomfortable, inexperienced and defensive. Everyone keeps talking about how eloquent he is and I didn’t see it. He mostly looked flustered to me.

Clinton, next to him, was completely in control. She handled herself beautifully. If I were a Democrat, there would be no question for me. I find it amusing (maybe a little scary) that Obama has so many supporters. What are his supporters real intentions? I don’t possibly see how any intelligent person could have watched them head to head and feel confident that Obama could handle the job.

Just my opinions about the debate.

[BB]

You should check out X-Gym on Alki. It WORKS if you are up to the challenge.

[Anonymous]

Yes, the YMCA West Seattle has children care for infants through 5 years of age, they were great! We did the part-time mornings but they do have part time afternoons and all day care available, whatever fits your schedule.

Here is a web link to them! If you have problems with the web link working, just type YMCA West Seattle on your web browser and on the homepage of YMCA select Youth and there is a link to chidcare.

http://www.seattleymca.org/page.cfm?ID=youthPrograms&catID=6

[Anonymous]

Have you thought about trying Seattle DogWorks on Capitol Hill? Here is the info:

info@seattledogs.com

1417 10th AVE, #2 SEATTLE WA 98122

206.919.8105

Hope it helps!

[Anonymous]

Hi JanS:

Thanks for the tips, I will try that right away! Lately I have been on a buying freenzy myself but on Craigslist, I found a Hotpoint side-by-side refrigerator (just afew years old and in perfect condition no stains, or scratches), a hotpoint stove with above microwave, a large cat tower that has 5 levels, and just last weekend a beautiful oak hutch. Now if I could just find a swingset! I see alot of step one sets available and also afew rainbow sets but they just aren’t big enough or the slide and swings are much too small. Wow! You have found some gerat items!!

[JoB]

for anyone dealing with an agressive dog… but shiba owners in particular… i can’t recommend this trainer enough.

Packworks .

Gretchen Schumaker and Michael Schmidt

425-870-7533

http://www.packworks.org

They start with a thorough assessment of your animal(s) in what will seem slightly eccentric controlled circumstances with observations they share as they make them.

This is not like any other dog training experience you have ever had.

Their methods are simple.. and you will have heard some of this before.. but you will never have been given the understanding about what makes your dog do what it is doing and how you might short circuit that behavior quite this way.

You will come away with work to do.. but you will understand exactly what you need to do for your dog and why after completing just one two hour session.

And you will discover things about your dog that you didn’t know. I guarantee it.

i thought i was a great trainer.. and i am pretty good… but they saw things i hadn’t seen and just those things have made a tremendous difference in the way we are handling our dogs.

I won’t tell you that it is safe to come to my house yet:) Yuki is still very people aggressive…(i don’t need to worry about a security system with him on the job) but he is making progress. In time he might even be able to tolerate having you in the room:)

And mochi (the dog aggressive one) has nearly stopped lunging at other dogs.

The pack leadership issues have been straightened out between us and the dogs… and between them. We have a much more peaceful home.

As a shiba owner, i can certify that these people understand shibas.. but i came away with the haunting suspicion that no matter what breed i had brought them, i would have felt the same.

[JoB]

Kayleigh, what’s not to like about this?

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/tonight

I know, this was only an outtake from that debate… but this is the woman i like and support.

she laughed at herself and her troubles… she was gracious… she was inclusive… and she was dead on about what is really important.

Now admit it.. if she wasn’t hillary you would like the woman in this outtake ;-0

The thing about dislike is that it is self perpetuating. They did a functional MRI study on people who held strong negative political views (but it might as well have been religion or morals or any strong personal dislike) and found that when information contrary to the subject’s personal belief system was mentioned, their brains literally shut down. Although they were still listening, they were no longer processing.

I think this has happened to some people where Hillary is concerned.

It’s funny, Obama supporters almost universally strongly dislike Hillary and if the caucus is any example, can’t even hear that she might have more experience or impact in some area Obama supporters are promoting him for. Yet, Hillary supporters almost universally like Obama.. they just think he isn’t ready to be president.

You might think that is a good reason to have Obama as our candidate… but i think it is the reverse.

Hillary is already disliked. She already expects to be lambasted. (Unlike Obama, who became visibly incensed when she said that we need more than just words in one debate) … she is accustomed to being challenged and accepts that as part of the job. This will make it very easy for her to make tough decisions.

Hillary’s supporters know she is flawed. Obama’s think he isn’t. I think America is piling too many expectations on Obama that he will be unable to meet.

And we haven’t seen his dirt yet. When anyone get’s close to revealing something, the Obama campaign responds with moral indignation and outrage. That may stop Hillary who actually wants a united party after this primary contest.. but it won’t stop the republican political machine. and right now, they have no reason to pull their stuff out because Hillary is still obviously the candidate they fear (their pundits are still constantly after her… a good indication of their thinking).

again, just my rational two cents:)

JanS.. it think the questions may have partly been a result of the negotiations from the Obama camp prior to the debate (he has refused to actually debate her in any meaningful way) and the negotiations from her political camp who know that she has to come across as a person if she is to win that primary. For once, they were in agreement… much to the dismay of those who would prefer substantive debate.

i didn’t watch the entire debate so i don’t know if this personality lovefest worked better for Obama or Clinton… We will see:)