Re: Will the MSM bury Climategate forever?

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JoB
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HMCRich..

There is no doubt that the last Bush was hated by many by the end of his last term … but that was for what he did.. not who he was…

and I am aware of no-one using bible quotes to advocate killing him … there was no holy crusade similar to that launched against birth control doctors painting a righteous target on him … There is a difference.

As for the scientists getting caught, if this story gets legs it will simply prove my point, that the right wing agenda leads the news… and if that is true then the MSM can’t be leaning towards the left, can they?

If liberal democrats and labor are ticked off.. it is at the fuss making them look bad … and as usual the scientists will be the scapegoats… but that doesn’t mean a single scientist did anything wrong. The smear campaign will ruin reputations and damage careers and discourage scientists even further from collaboration… but i won’t change the validity of the science at all.

Again.. this simply proves that perceptions and cult of personality are far more important to the “news” .. main stream or not… than fact.

if you can’t stomach Democracy Now or any other program that gives an actual left point of view and only see NPR as more centerist, it is no wonder you perceive any programming which does not fall down the far right line as leaning left.

Using Glen Beck as an example of someone who thinks that journalists ought to look into what is going on and investigate as an example of the far right’s concern for the lack of in depth news coverage would be laughable if so many people didn’t believe Glen as he leans into the television camera and tells them that someone ought to look into the next invented issue built on innuendo and slur that he has just uncovered.

These conversations with you and others have made me ponder the validity of many of my assumptions.. among them the assumption most people value informed opinion more than uninformed opinion. I fear that was an optimistic assumption.. as is the assumption that most people can tell the difference between a sourced argument and innuendo… that common sense rules.

I truly hope my fears are unfounded … that where the media is concerned we are experiencing a shift back towards content… but i have a really difficult time seeing it right now.

When who says something is more important than the validity of what they had to say… when rhetoric is more important than content… when context no longer matters… it is nearly impossible to exchange ideas… and conversation devolves into slogans and soundbites.

i so hope my fears are wrong because it is nearly impossible to have conversation with people who don’t share your basic value system about content… and i place a very high value on the give and take of debate.

For me, the only hope for our nation hangs on the constant exchange of ideas and that hangs on the availability and understanding of information.