SEEN OFF WEST SEATTLE: Livestock carrier

Dan Ciske October 5, 2021 (11:34 am)

Might stop in Canada for load of horses to Japan or China. There is a demand for fresh horse meat over there.

Judee October 5, 2021 (10:04 pm)

I find this to be disgusting shipping our horses for slaughter to places like China.
- ttt October 6, 2021 (7:03 am)
  
  unfortunately it has been happening for years.
  - Warren October 7, 2021 (5:40 pm)
    
    I ate horse in Switzerland at a local restaurant. It’s not as good as beef but many people enjoy it.
- Margaret October 7, 2021 (3:42 pm)
  
  are you a vegan?
Serena Vulcan October 6, 2021 (5:33 am)

Horses are pets. People obviously don’t know what happened to the animals that they gave away.
- Jennifer Cairns October 6, 2021 (1:15 pm)
  
  While we find eating horse disgusting, many cultures do not. Same as we eat beef happily but other cultures are horrified that we would. The line for me is how the animals were treated before they were butchered. Which is why we raise all our own meat on our farm.
  - K O October 7, 2021 (9:51 am)
    
    Where I’m from in Italy, horse meat is very common. I actually miss eating it! I’ve always thought it was odd that Americans will eat cows, pigs, chickens but won’t eat horse? What a waste of meat when an animal passes on.

Oakley34 October 5, 2021 (11:54 am)

Ditch meat eat plants.

MyChoice October 5, 2021 (1:00 pm)

I am not picky, I eat what available, cheap and plentiful.Nobody forcing you to eat what you don’t likeMy Tummy My Choice
- shelly blaze October 5, 2021 (2:11 pm)
  
  not what you eat but whom…
- GT October 5, 2021 (2:27 pm)
  
  No problem. Now pay for all your food choices, tax payer subsidies of animal farming will end. You like it so much, fine, pay for it yourself then.
  - Eat Local Farmers October 5, 2021 (6:45 pm)
    
    And there’s definately no subsidies for plant farming?
    - Brandon L Russell October 10, 2021 (12:55 pm)
      
      There are not subsidies for food domestic market food crops, is what I understand. You can get crop insurance if you grow corn for feed, but not for humans.
Jim P. October 5, 2021 (1:39 pm)

Cattle eat grass. Try it sometime.

You lack the proper digestive enzymes and biome to digest cellulose.

Since they eat stuff you cannot, this is a very efficient way to make use of vegetation otherwise inedible to humans.
- Toad October 6, 2021 (8:38 am)
  
  Yeah, except resources are used to plant grass instead of beans, vegetables, etc. Most cows are also fed corn. Very few cows are raised on open range, eating natural forage.
  - Mikey likes it October 6, 2021 (6:42 pm)
    
    Now more grassfed than ever before. Better for you. Read Jo Robinson.
  - 02Rancher October 8, 2021 (12:00 pm)
    
    Sadly you must live in a big city. Almost all cattle are raised in the open range and when they reach 650-700 lbs at 14 months, then they are moved into feed lots for finishing for 90 days, they are fed a blended mixture! They are very well treated! You are welcome on the ranch anytime!
anonyme October 5, 2021 (2:28 pm)

I agree with you Oakley. There are so many reasons to go beef-free, from the ethical to the environmental. Livestock production is a major source of methane, and climate change. The notion of adding yet another layer – not just of emissions, but of cruelty – is hard to justify.
- DoYourResearch October 5, 2021 (7:29 pm)
  
  Define “major” please. With sources and data. Supporting regenerative agriculture tackles a lot of these issues your bring up. Take care,
  - anonyme October 6, 2021 (6:11 am)
    
    This is a comment section of a blog, not a scientific research journal. The information is easy enough to find. If you really insist on peer-reviewed data, then by all means provide your argument to the contrary. BTW, I absolutely support regenerative agriculture. However, just because there is one aspect of human behavior that affects climate change does not mean we should concentrate only on that aspect and not others. We need to be doing everything possible to affect change, from every angle.
Carnivore October 5, 2021 (2:42 pm)

If God wanted you to eat plants, he wouldn’t have made animals out of meat.:)
Resident October 5, 2021 (2:48 pm)

We are omnivores not herbivores.
- anonyme October 5, 2021 (4:35 pm)
  
  You left out the fact that we are also not obligate carnivores. Humans do not need to consume flesh to survive or to be healthy. Quite the contrary.
Antz October 5, 2021 (3:26 pm)

Agree. It’s their voyage of death, so sad.
DoYourResearch October 5, 2021 (7:25 pm)

Why? Because plant toxins are sooo healthy for us? And mono cropping isn’t contributing to global warming?
Okey Dokey October 5, 2021 (9:47 pm)

LOL, no
- Mikey likes it October 6, 2021 (6:46 pm)
  
  Quite to the contrary.Plant mono-cropping and it’s chemical profile are destroying our pristine planet.Grains are not necessary to fatten animals. High quality grasses will do that just fine thank you.Keep the chemicals in the containers.

Sillygoose October 5, 2021 (1:15 pm)

This photo hurts my heart knowing the belly of the ship is full of cattle!! OMG Horrible!!

MrFixIt October 6, 2021 (12:30 pm)

I see a lot of righteous indignation in the shipping of animals to other countries to be slaughtered and eaten – thats called economic enterprise. Yet, oddly, I don’t see that same level of indignation when it comes to slaughtering our own citizens by the thousands in drive by shootings and mass killing events, neither of which contributes to the economy at all. Except, I suppose, to the gun manufacturers and the NRA. Get your priorities straight people. How about a little more attention to the fate of those further up the food chain. There is NO CREDIBLE REASON for a citizen of this country to own an assault style rifle and we are reminded almost daily of what happens when they do!!! To clarify, for the benefit of all the right wing militias and the NRA, “they’re fun” is NOT a credible reason.

Flo B October 5, 2021 (1:49 pm)

oakley34. Plants are living breathing things also.

HS October 5, 2021 (2:12 pm)

The SPECS! Thank you for those. So fun to look at!!!

Duff C. Radke-Bogen October 5, 2021 (7:05 pm)

Yes. Down to the basketball court on the top deck. Although it wasn’t labelled, leaving it unclear if it’s for the crew or cattle to get their exercise.

Billy October 5, 2021 (3:01 pm)

Gas guzzling methane transporter. Nothing to celebrate.

Chuck Jacobs October 5, 2021 (3:32 pm)

That freighter looks delicious!

Vanessa October 5, 2021 (4:13 pm)

Where’s the beef?

Terremoto October 5, 2021 (4:22 pm)

Sad. Used to see semi trucks with live cattle sitting in sun in over 100+ heat in the southwest. Made me ill. If you love dogs + cats (so have some humanity), read Sparrow by Maria Doria Russell. I have eaten meat so can’t criticize anyone, it just makes me sad to know how they are treated as if they have no feelings. Used to work on a farm, they all have personalities.

Okey Dokey October 5, 2021 (9:48 pm)

Animals were put here for humans not the other way around.
- anonyme October 6, 2021 (6:19 am)
  
  “Animals were put here” by whom? Or what? Your belief in the supernatural is not evidence, nor is it justification for cruelty. You are also confused as to classification; humans ARE animals. All mammals, including cows and humans, have the same range of emotions, from fear to jealousy to anger to love. That is fact, not fiction or theology.
- helpermonkey October 6, 2021 (2:55 pm)
  
  “Animals were put here for humans” um, what? That’s a remarkably self-centered view. We all share this planet, and no one “put” anything anywhere for any of us, human or animal.
LisaB October 5, 2021 (9:53 pm)

You have a heart. Missing from many of these immature comments.
Raye October 5, 2021 (10:01 pm)

Thank you for mentioning The Sparrow. I don’t normally read sci-fi, but this book was in a class of itself. Highly recommended.(former omnivore)
Jennifer Cairns October 6, 2021 (1:23 pm)

We raise all the meat we consume on our farm. It made me sad that so many don’t live the way they are supposed to. Chicken foraging in the sun, ducks in a pond, turkeys sleeping in trees, pigs on pasture with trees to relax under in large family groups. There’s no fear before death, no trauma in traveling etc… No waste, what we can use the other animals can. We decided this was a better way to get away from factory farming without giving up animal proteins. Oh

Dale October 5, 2021 (4:49 pm)

Where’s the Beef? There’s the Beef

K. Davis October 5, 2021 (5:05 pm)

Saw this picture (cool/interesting ship) and read what it carries … and just knew there’d be comments bitching about eating meat. The only thing missing is the equally predictable anti-car nuts weighing in.I feel like getting a burger now … maybe two.

Dale October 5, 2021 (5:08 pm)

Cattle are forced to endure a voyage across the Pacific in the hold of a cargo ship, so the meat will be fresher when they are killed on arrival? Don’t understand how any compassionate human can think that’s OK.

Rick October 5, 2021 (5:13 pm)

Cheeseburger cattle cruise. Barbecue boat ride. Yumm! Funny how a portion of society believes it’s their right to dictate to others how to live their lives. But, hey, it’s a free country. At least for now. At the rate we’re going we’ll have the government doing that for us, all the while excluding themselves. Ain’t America grand!

anonyme October 6, 2021 (6:26 am)

Expressing an opinion that is different from yours is hardly dictation. If that were true, your comment must be considered equally dictatorial. Instead, why not present a relevant argument in response, rather than yet another unsubstantiated complaint about perceived loss of future freedoms?

SamT October 5, 2021 (5:19 pm)

What a sad and terrible trial for these animals … and if you can’t bring yourself to care about them, at least try and consider the waste of resources and the impact on our climate. Cruel & unsustainable.

Dr. No October 5, 2021 (5:32 pm)

The no fly-over crowd with another rallying point.

El jefe' October 5, 2021 (7:12 pm)

Either that is a terrible bottom paint job or this boat came up the coast through an oil spill.

aRF October 5, 2021 (7:16 pm)

Mootiny on the Bounty

Friend O'Dinghus October 5, 2021 (9:47 pm)

+1 for Arf!

Curious October 5, 2021 (7:27 pm)

So where would all the animal waste be off loaded? It has to be dumped somehow/somewhere. In our Puget Sound? The middle of the Pacific?

anonyme October 6, 2021 (6:39 am)

Excellent point. The human waste goes the same way. We need to stop pumping sewage into waterways, whether from land or at sea.
Lola October 6, 2021 (12:39 pm)

Curious,What do you think they do with all the human waste on these kind of ships? Same thing. My son was a Merchant Mariner and you don’t want to know. I am sure they do the same thing that they do with the Human Waste on Cargo Ships.

Lisab October 5, 2021 (9:51 pm)

Absolutely upsetting to see. And some immature and callous remarks for sure.

Scubafrog October 6, 2021 (9:12 am)

It’s so sad to see how many humans treat animals. Wagyu’s a high-priced beef, eaten by Seattle and the eastside’s elite (no surprise – the bourgeoisie cause so much harm and pain to the planet/animals/humanity). Commenters making light of the plight of the animals may lack empathy – which certainly isn’t something to boast. Those who lack empathy for animal life, CAN be dangerous to human life. Then the commenters on how “free” America is, with our kgb-like 3-letter surveillance agencies, police-state, and the largest incarcerated population on earth. Ha! Super free!

Will Wil October 6, 2021 (4:22 pm)

It’s always a group of people that has all the negative crap in the world about the cattle industry. Most 0f you that are whining truly have no clue what you’re talking about. It sounds stupid. Now, if you don’t want to eat meat then don’t eat it… If you just so happen to like meat then eat it.. if you really cared about these poor, pitiful, mistreated animals ( as you all love to address them as) then go help em.. eat what you want to eat.. it’s your choice. Find out the truth about cattle treatment and maintenance before you post bs. I don’t even wanna hear ” I went to a farm or I lived on a farm” blah blah. I’m done.. Let the comments begin..

IPreferAnimals October 7, 2021 (3:49 pm)

I’m not surprised at all by so many of the cruel, dismissive comments on here about these poor animals being shipped to their impending death because we live in a society where being cruel towards one another and any other living beings is acceptable, glorified and even a punchline. We all have a right to choose what we want to eat, but the lack of empathy and compassion displayed by some of the commenters are really and truly disturbing. What if the roles were reversed? What if there were innocent people who were forced on that same vessel, being shipped to a foreign place where their fate is death? Oh wait, humans HAVE done that to other humans numerous times throughout history. Again, not surprising. It has been proven (yes, science!) that many animal species are capable of empathy and have high levels of emotional intelligence. Some may argue they have more of both than many humans, which I believe is absolutely true. So, can you imagine the terror, stress and anxiety these animals must be feeling when they know what is about to happen to them. As for the comment that animals were put here for humans, this exemplifies how ignorant, uneducated and self-centered this way of thinking is. The photo of the vessel with the cattle on its death journey is really sad. But what’s more sad is the cruelty shown in so many comments. Humans are the worst.