UPDATE: Governor extends ‘Stay Home’ order through May 31st, outlines ‘phases’ of reopening

2:34 PM: Just under way in Olympia, Gov. Inslee‘s briefing, with health officials, at which he’s expected to talk about “phases” of reopening more of the state’s economy. We’ll be updating as it goes.

He says he’ll “issue a new extension of the Stay Home, Stay Healthy” order on Monday, and that businesses will be allowed to reopen “in four phases.” Monday’s order will extend Stay Home, Stay Healthy “through May 31st.”

But “what we’re doing is working,” he insists. He says he’s making “good, data-based decisions (about) reopening at the right pace.” He notes that 800+ Washington residents have died so far and rebukes those who claim the threat is “exaggerated.”

2:40 PM: The four phases, he says, are:

Phase 1 – “Essentially where we are right now” with recent partial reopenings of construction, recreation, etc. Plus: Retail curbside pickups, drive-in spiritual services, car sales, car washes will be allowed. A ban on “large gatherings” will remain in place.

Phase 2 – More recreation, including camping, small gatherings, in-store purchases, barber shops & salons, some offices, pet care services, restaurants with reduced capacity.

Phase 3: 75 percent capacity for restaurants, 25 percent for bars, movie theaters and gyms with partial capacity, nonessential travel, more

Phase 4: “Resuming the majority of public interaction.”

He says cities and counties would be free to keep tighter restrictions in place.

Now – how will those phases be triggered? By “data,” Inslee says. He’s going through a variety of charts. (PS – We keep losing the video feed but are monitoring audio via the media call-in line. The details should be available via the governor’s website later, too.) No specific dates have been mentioned for anything beyond the 5/31 extension of the stay-home order. One of the key metrics, as he’s said before: Increased testing. Also: Contact tracing; protecting those most at risk; health-care readiness in case there’s a case spike. “We will be looking at all these metrics … on a regular basis … to determine whether we can move to the next phase. … We’ll have three weeks, at least, between phases, to determine whether (changes have) worked or not.”

10 counties with smaller outbreaks (none in the urban area) may be able to move to Phase 2 sooner than others, he says. “What we learn from those counties can help (other) counties as well.” Other counties “may be able to apply for a variance” depending on data, he says. But “this remains a precarious situation,” he warns.

2:56 PM: On to Q&A. He’s asked what kind of testing numbers he’s looking for. He says that depends on the status of the outbreak when more test kits – he says the feds have promised 1 million – arrive.

Then: So realistically, restaurants and salons (etc.) won’t be reopening before June – how are you going to deal with people about that? The government insists “the vast majority of Washingtonians” understand this is necessary. “We don’t want to do this twice – it’s hard enough to do this once. … The hard-headed science tells us we have one decision here if we want to continue on the road to recovery.”

Also: What are the repercussions if a county reopens without state permission? He didn’t answer.

And: Looking at the three-week gaps (at least) suggested between phases, “does this take us to mid-July”? Would he have to extend this again? Inslee says that’s a realistic assessment for returning to large gatherings but it’s “possible …we’d get a large break” such as a cure/treatment.

Next: What if there’s a “great uprising”? Inslee says that “hasn’t happened” and he doesn’t expect it to, citing again indications of widespread public support and saying people in this state “are willing to make temporary sacrifices” to stop the outbreak. He adds, “I feel good about the course we’re on” and feels he has given people “hope” by outlining these phases.

Also: Amazon is allowing some to work from home through much of the fall. Reaction? Inslee says he suspects more people might do that permanently. “I want to thank the enlighened business leadership in our state” for adopting telecommuting early on.

Another Q: By mid-May, if Phase 1 is fully implemented, could restaurants, hair salons, etc. reasonably hope to reopen under Phase 2 by June 1st? A little “deeper in June,” the governor says, “but that depends on the course of the virus.”

Then: What’s the prospect of in-person school reopening in fall? He sees a “good probability” but says that what happens in the weeks ahead will have a major bearing on that.

Also: Is it reasonable to expect restaurants can survive with restricted capacity? Inslee says he was talking with a Starbucks executive who said they’re “adapting” so he believes that’s what everyone needs to do.

He ends by thanking everyone “who has helped us design this Reopening Washington plan,” and wraps up at 3:21 pm. Links with details should appear before long at governor.wa.gov.

4:53 PM: Here’s the chart the governor showed, showing what’s included in each “phase.”

190 Replies to "UPDATE: Governor extends 'Stay Home' order through May 31st, outlines 'phases' of reopening"

  • Staceydev May 1, 2020 (2:51 pm)

    Way to go Governor Inslee! Thank you for keeping the health and safety of everyone the foremost thing on your mind and for making data driven decisions!

  • momof3boys May 1, 2020 (2:56 pm)

    makes sense to me.

  • Bradley May 1, 2020 (2:57 pm)

    Soon-to-be former Governor Inslee, as voters will remove him in four phases by November 3rd. Phase 1 was March 23rd. Phase 2 is today. Phase 3 is after mass bankruptcies and Phase 4 is Election Day.

    • KBear May 1, 2020 (3:18 pm)

      Nonsense, Bradley. This isn’t some kind of stunt or power grab. It’s an actual emergency, and we are fortunate to have Governor Inslee’s leadership. 

    • Anne May 1, 2020 (3:18 pm)

      At least -if we follow his plan-you & every voter will be alive to exercise that right.

    • Carrie May 1, 2020 (3:34 pm)

      Well he has my vote. Seeing the mess other governors have made, I’m impressed with his steady and sensible leadership. 

    • WSJ May 1, 2020 (3:43 pm)

      You probably thought that was a sick burn. Good luck with Eyman vs, Inslee LOL

    • SO May 1, 2020 (3:56 pm)

      This made me laugh! Looking forward to phase 4!

    • Anonymouz May 1, 2020 (3:59 pm)

      Agreed

    • Lagartija Nick May 1, 2020 (4:09 pm)

      Bradley, considering that more than 75% of Washingtonians support Inslee’s handling of this, I highly doubt the grifting chair thief will be our next Governor.

      • Bradley May 1, 2020 (4:54 pm)

        We’ll see how much support Inslee has 30-60 days from now from his usual fans as their small businesses go under, their mortgages are delinquent, their employers tell them there’s no jobs to come back to, etc. Especially when States all over the country are running at 80-90% and we’re still in free-fall.

        • Tony S May 1, 2020 (5:17 pm)

          Tell that to my friend’s mom, Patsy Buchanan, who died on April 9th of Covid-19, Brad.You’re awesome.

          • Wsmom May 1, 2020 (7:48 pm)

            Tony, I’m very sorry about your friends Mom. Bradley, I know who I will be voting for in November. Mr Inslee, Thank you for keeping us safe. 

          • Bradley May 1, 2020 (8:50 pm)

            Too bad about your friend’s mom. That really sucks. Perhaps if Inslee would’ve ordered masks for all store customers and masks and gloves for all workers, lives could’ve been saved? Anyone can make a face covering and Costco has taken the lead on this. I was disappointed that he didn’t require them today. If everyone wore PPE we could open up far more businesses much earlier, saving lives AND the economy.

        • MrsT May 1, 2020 (8:06 pm)

          Jay Inslee is not responsible for this pandemic dude. He will not be to blame when those things inevitably happen. Blame falls entirely on the federal government, and the Republicans in Congress and the pathetic excuse for a president for refusing to prop up our citizens like many other countries have done to weather this storm. 

          • Bradley May 2, 2020 (2:15 am)

            Really? The pandemic isn’t President Trump’s fault, either. The “pan” part of pandemic is the global part and it originated in China on the other side of the planet. Our President banned all travel from China on January 31st, way before any other modern nation did so, and your side called him xenophobic and racist for doing so. He saved hundreds of thousands of lives by that action. Polls show that the majority of Americans approve of his COVID-19 response.

          • Stay well May 3, 2020 (5:22 pm)

            Not saying Trump is to blame for the pandemic, but he did fail to take it as seriously and to respond as quickly as he should have. More lives could have been saved and we could be further along with things like testing and meeting ppe needs.

            The polling information I’m finding (in the first few google search results) shows the majority of the country does not agree with Trumps handling of this pandemic. Which polls are you referring to?

            Here are a couple of articles on this:

            https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/493534-poll-majority-of-americans-disapprove-of-trumps-handling-of

            https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/apr/10/trump-poll-numbers-dip-handling-coronavirus

    • Wendell May 1, 2020 (4:19 pm)

      You mean you’ll be voting for the half-wit car tab guy? Good luck with that.

    • Felix Grounds May 1, 2020 (5:00 pm)

      HAHAHA…Yeah right…who’s even running against  him…OH yeah…Tim “office chair thief” Eyman…good luck.

    • WS Guy May 1, 2020 (5:06 pm)

      Unfortunately, WA voters love to be manhandled and abused.  They will eagerly return him to office.  

      His COVID incompetence many never be revealed, since there is no counterfactual evidence (what would have happened in WA with targeted measures instead of a total lockdown) other than inaccurate and unreliable models.  

      It’s possible that many years from now we will reach the consensus that best practices are not to lock down (see: Sweden).   But by then he will be long gone and defenders will still claim that it was the safest course given what was known.

      • Lagartija Nick May 1, 2020 (8:11 pm)

        WS Guy, Sweden has 10 times the infection and death rate of their Scandinavian neighbors. You might want to rethink holding them up as a model to follow.

        • WS Guy May 2, 2020 (12:23 am)

          Time will tell.  The data across countries is incomplete, and may not be comparable due to differences in reporting standards.  The WHO is now praising Sweden’s model.

          From the Times:

          Surprisingly, WHO has praised Sweden as a “model” for battling COVID-19.

          There are “lessons to be learned” from Sweden, which is relying on the self-discipline of its citizens to defeat the pandemic, contended Dr. Mike Ryan, executive director of WHO’s Health Emergencies Program, which is responsible for the international containment and treatment of COVID-19.

          “I think there’s a perception out that Sweden has not put in control measures and just has allowed the disease to spread,” noted Dr. Ryan. “Nothing can be further from the truth.”

          On Wednesday, Dr. Ryan told the media instead of lockdowns, Sweden has “put in place a very strong public policy around social distancing, around caring and protecting people in long term care facilities.”

          • BBILL May 2, 2020 (2:43 am)

            It’s almost as if you believe that Sweden found some magic formula for fighting COVID-19, yet as the data is coming in, it paints a much different picture. “The grim data from Sweden’s central bank has been reinforced by a respected think tank this week. The National Institute for Economic Research (NIER) said in a statement Wednesday that it believed that Sweden’s economy is set to shrink 7% this year and unemployment to rise to 10.2%.” There is much more in the article. Let’s hope Sweden ends up well, but the recent data does not support that Sweden will go unscathed. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/30/coronavirus-sweden-economy-to-contract-as-severely-as-the-rest-of-europe.html

          • Stay well May 2, 2020 (10:06 am)

            ‘Sweden…  which is relying on the self-discipline of its citizens to defeat the pandemic’

            This approach would have been problematic here. We are a country divided, even during a pandemic. As you can see from commenters here, there are some in our country who do not believe the seriousness of the situation, are ignoring or challenging the advice of experts, and are expressing an unwillingness to act for the benefit of others. Some even believe this is some kind of political charade or conspiracy. 

            Sweden is a different place culturally, and also much smaller and more cohesive.

            Just another point to consider.

        • rac May 2, 2020 (8:32 am)

          Sweden public officials have said they may be “weeks away” from herd immunity.  We (and other countries that locked down) are months or years away.  So you can’t really compare their death rate to other countries – they are much further down the path and other countries will catch up in death rate, with far more economic and mental health consequences.

    • Also John May 1, 2020 (5:30 pm)

      Bradley…  You couldn’t be more wrong.  This is serious.  It’s a world pandemic.   

    • James Walker May 1, 2020 (6:17 pm)

      Inslee’s re-election was secured the day the racist conman cheat called him a “snake”.  Deal with it.

    • Dunno May 1, 2020 (7:02 pm)

      How about those who cannot get through to the State Unemployment office to fix a mistake on their original application.  Have tried to call 1-833-572-8400 over 3,000 times.  Don’t believe me, try yourself.  Meanwhile, since April 3rd she has been without any income to pay any bill because her job ended because Inslee stopped all work in child care.Why Can’t we have the National guard answer the initial calls coming in without getting to personal.  then hand off the legit to those who work at the state unemployment office.   We opened up Century Link Field and never used them, but we need them now!!! (National Guard)  In fact her son is a National Guardsman.  Don’t believe me?  Give it a try!!!! 1-833-572-8400…You know something I don’t, say it here!  She’s a immigrant that has been here for over 10 years now and is a US citizen!  Has worked for the lowest wage possible and now cannot get one single dime!!!! 

      • Dunno May 1, 2020 (7:09 pm)

        Let me ad, I’ve helped her email , call, Sent a letter in the snail mail, and have been hung up on by the State Legislature Hotline, talked to the Governor hot line, Secretary of State, State Patrol, Kiro, King, Komo, and Kcpq assignment desks. 

        • me May 2, 2020 (12:23 am)

          It’s true, we’ve been waiting on unemployment since March, if you call you don’t even get put on hold, they just hang up. There’s no way to get through to anyone and our income has been cut by more than 50% since March, we will not have rent in June. What can we do? They don’t answer.

          • Stay well May 2, 2020 (11:01 am)

            Thankfully, there is a moratorium on evictions right now.  There are many experiencing economic hardship and unable to pay rent due to this pandemic. If you cannot pay rent, let your landlord know, and specify it is due to the pandemic.  I am guessing the moratorium will be extended again, since the stay at home order had been extended.

            ‘Under the new order, landlords cannot treat pandemic-related unpaid rent, including unpaid rent from the beginning of the outbreak, like a regular debt that can be enforced by collectors or result in an eviction. Instead, landlords would first have to offer a reasonable repayment plan, according to the order.’

            I would bet there will be some kind of rent forgiveness program at the end of this most challenging and work restricted time. Like for those who can demonstrate their work and income were impacted, and they didn’t receive sufficient benefits to cover rent + essential needs. But we’ll see…

  • Bronson May 1, 2020 (3:07 pm)

    Inslee needs a risk management course. You cannot eliminate risk, you can merely add controls to reduce the inherent risk. If you look at the epidemiologic curve (https://www.doh.wa.gov/Emergencies/Coronavirus), the curve has not only been flattened, but essentially squashed. There should be some relaxation of the stay at home, perhaps gatherings of less than 10 people allowed. Non-compliance is going to soar as a result of his hard line stance instead of reasonable, controlled, risk mitigation strategies that give people some glimmer of hope. 

    • Carrie May 1, 2020 (3:35 pm)

      What do you think risk management looks like?  It’s exactly this. Did you think managing risk was opening things at random because you whined at the governor?

      • Cool Rick May 1, 2020 (4:08 pm)

        Effective risk management would start to relax restrictions now, as the curve flattening mitigation strategy has effectively been achieved.

        • Elikapeka May 1, 2020 (9:22 pm)

          No.  It has not.  Not one state in the country has achieved the four criteria that the federal government and most epidemiologists established.  The federal government won’t enforce its own standards, but I am glad to live in a state where decisions are made based on science and fact.

      • Bronson May 1, 2020 (4:29 pm)

        @Carrie – as an actual Risk Manager myself, I absolutely understand what risk management looks like. This is a set of stifling controls that does more harm than good. You will never reduce the rate of infection to zero, nor does it serve the greater population to do so. Managing risk in a manner that thinks you will is pointless. We should relax the rules, put stringent protections in place for the elderly and sick, and get on with life and developing a level of immunity that helps society as a whole.https://finance.yahoo.com/news/lockdown-critics-may-valid-points-152936053.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=ma

        • BettytheYeti May 1, 2020 (5:44 pm)

          I too agree with Bronson.  Thank you.

        • Jim May 1, 2020 (5:55 pm)

          Inslee is destroying the state economy. By the time he is willing to allow businesses to reopen they will be gone. He is ignoring the lessons learned from Taiwan and South Korea. They quarantined the fragile and sick while allowing the rest to live. 

          • Morgan May 1, 2020 (8:51 pm)

            They could do that because they had sufficient test kits and more conscientious societies.we have more tests and contact tracers this plan is basically trying to get a situation where those countries’ approaches may be copied.as a country we failed at sufficient testing at crucial moment, and cratered our economy with this result.

          • BBILL May 2, 2020 (2:52 am)

            One thing that South Korea did much different than the US is testing, testing, testing. “The country’s government has been among the most ambitious when it comes to providing the public with free and easy testing options. Experts have attributed South Korea’s decline in new coronavirus cases to its early testing efforts, a successful example of what is now commonly referred to as “flattening the curve.”But South Korea’s economy will still take a hard hit as the rest of the world deals with the pandemic, according to Alex Holmes, Asia economist for Capital Economics.” https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/22/economy/south-korea-economy-coronavirus/index.html

          • Thomas Wood May 2, 2020 (1:21 pm)

            I have trouble following a Governor who hides in the Governor Mansion .Tells everybody he feels are pain Really have you had your pay cut in half.Inslee needs to come out and look at the devastation.Instead of sitting around reading charts.I’m tired of him playing kick the can. His four phase plan best case scenario is four months.More likely six months.What’s going to be left four out of five restaurants will be out of business.Will be mired in a deep depression,already one million people in the State  are having trouble getting food.But by God he put the clamp on the virus.That I highly doubt.Tell me to wear a mask and gloves no problem.But don’t tie my hands behind my back and tell me to survive!

        • mok4315 May 1, 2020 (9:45 pm)

          Amen

    • WS Guy May 1, 2020 (4:13 pm)

      I agree with Bronson.  

      Carrie, he should be looking at metrics of the impact of the lockdown in order to balance the risks and costs properly. His dashboard only has virus metrics.  It shows nothing about business closures, unemployment, and other aspects of public health that are degrading as a result of his one-sided analysis.

      Inslee has been terrible, bordering on incompetent and tyrannical.

      • Carrie May 1, 2020 (4:29 pm)

        Since Inslee has been praised for specifically deferring to public health officials to make these decisions, it’s weird that you think appealing to public health factors would convince me. 

        • WS Guy May 1, 2020 (4:56 pm)

          Whats weird is that you would make a snarky comment to Bronson as though you know what risk management is, when you clearly do not.  That’s is the purpose of my reply.

          Risk management includes openly balancing competing factors. I offered some examples.  

          Bronson is right. Inslee is not doing that.  Look at his metrics dashboard.

          • Stay well May 1, 2020 (7:21 pm)

            The economy and public health are not competing factors, they are mutually dependent. As Governor Inlsee put it, ‘there is no economic health, without public health.’

            The more people we have sick and dying from this virus, the more the economy will suffer.

  • Lena May 1, 2020 (3:12 pm)

     Giving that we are in an open system (we are not an island like Taiwan, Korean or New Zealand) but instead a giant country with no travel restrictions within it. And we know it will be at least 18 months before a COVID vaccine. And many places in the US are not in lock down.And the research out of Korean shows that people testing positive twice are not truly positive. https://nypost.com/…/dead-coronavirus-particles-may-cause-…/ . It looks like herd immunity exists.And from the jail testing we know that 96% or more of people with COVID will not only not die but will not even be sick i.e. our mortality rate is less than 1% (probably much lower)https://www.reuters.com/…/in-four-u-s-state-prisons-nearly-…And based on Italy’s numbers very few die who don’t have preexisting conditions (about 1%) https://www.bloomberg.com/…/99-of-those-who-died-from-virus…How does lock down help us? Isn’t it just prolonging the deaths unless we lock down until there is a vaccine? Why not open up with caution and let the young and healthy get immunity to protect us all? Won’t the reduce the number of total deaths especially if we protect those who are high risk?

    • Neighbor May 1, 2020 (3:30 pm)

      Initially our goal was to flatten the curve, reducing the exponential rate of the virus’ spread so as to not overwhelm the hospital system. It was always assumed that by the time we’d managed that, we would have enough supplies in place to do testing and contact tracing to mitigate the contagion appropriately from there. I don’t think any of us could have foreseen that we’d have brought down the curve, only to still have such a shortage of testing supplies. Added to that is the growing evidence that past infection with COVID-19 doesn’t give immunity and this virus has some seriously scary effects on the body. I’m thankful that Governor Inslee is doing all he can to manage this in the face of constant armchair quarterbacking.

    • Carrie May 1, 2020 (3:37 pm)

      Because there’s no evidence yet that the “young and healthy” would “get immunity”. Additionally, we don’t know what the long term effects of this virus might be. Ever heard of shingles?  Maybe research that and consider the effect of this virus lingering quiescent in our bodies for years before commenting. 

      Also, the whole point of this plan is to open up slowly and with caution. You’re just throwing a fit because it’s not happening on your arbitrary timelines.

    • C May 1, 2020 (3:41 pm)

      Lena,1. You can’t compare the general population to jail patients. Its just not accurate science. 2. Our state has already shown the death rate to hover around 5% (true in many other countries). 3. If you loved someone with a preexisting condition, imagine how you’d feel hearing what you just said-their lives are just as valuable. 4. Lock down helps by not  overloading the healthcare system. Just because the death rate is “only” 5%, many people who don’t die are still in the hospital system for MANY WEEKS which take up beds, PPE, etc. This means that if we are overloaded with Covid cases, we can’t treat people with other issues (cancer, car accidents, strokes). Making the true deaths from Covid-relation actually higher. 5. How do you propose we “protect those who are high risk”? Lock them in a castle forever?Believe it or not, the state is making decisions based on science, not just pulling information out of thin air. They’re working with public health and sharing data between states and other countries to keep us safe. 

      • rac May 2, 2020 (8:51 am)

        The death rate is not 5%.  We don’t know the denominator because so few tests are being done (and only of those who are likely sick), but random studies suggest it should be 50-100x higher.  We know a lot of people are asymptomatic.   This case death rate (deaths/confirmed cases) is an absolutely meaningless statistic and anyone quoting it should be ashamed. It’s just creating irrational and unwarranted fear.  The normal death rate in the US is about 0.8%.  Some studies are showing mortality lift of about 15-20%, which means maybe a death rate of 0.1-0.2%.  With 80% of them over 65 (per CDC) and most others with pre-existing health conditions.  Instead of spending trillions sprinkled across the entire economy, we should have focused spending on protecting the vulnerable and let the other 99% of us mitigate the economic damage and build herd immunity.Historians will look back on this as a pandemic of fear spurred by sensationalist and social media reporting meaningless metrics and giving up to the minute body counts (without ever indicating age distribution or lift over baseline deaths) and self-serving politicians who know that’s is almost impossible to prove you did too much (but easy to prove if you did too little).   So they just copy each to achieve re-election “herd immunity”…  Thankfully a few countries have been brave enough to try another course – like Sweden – that will help historians prove how our officials failed us.

    • Jim May 1, 2020 (3:48 pm)

      Very reasoned comment Lena.  And now all those who are not being hurt economically and are hysterical with fear will insult you.

    • CL May 1, 2020 (4:11 pm)

      And let’s not forget the WHO praise for the Swedish approach that relies on public policy through a partnership with the population and not a lock down:  https://nypost.com/2020/04/29/who-lauds-sweden-as-model-for-resisting-coronavirus-lockdown/.  “I think if we are to reach a new normal, Sweden represents a model if
      we wish to get back to a society in which we don’t have lockdowns,” Dr Michael Ryan, Executive Director of the WHO 
      said.  Without an approach similar to this I fear the population is rapidly verging on no longer being on board. 

      • BBILL May 2, 2020 (10:41 am)

        I went and watched the video and read the article, and let’s say, I’m wondering if we watched the same video and read the same article. “I think there’s a perception out that Sweden has not put in control measures and just has allowed the disease to spread,” Ryan told reporters. “Nothing can be further from the truth.”

    • Wsres May 1, 2020 (10:59 pm)

      Just popping in here to say that Korea is not an island…..

  • HS May 1, 2020 (3:13 pm)

    It’s been difficult in so many ways, for all of us I imagine, though I can only speak of my own experience.  But I agree with the decisions our Governor has made.  

  • Susan May 1, 2020 (3:14 pm)

    Thank you Jay Inslee for using common sense/science and health guidelines combined with care for our citizens instead of folding to bullies. Thank you thank you thank you!!!!!!!! I’m proud to be a washingtonian.

    • Lisab May 1, 2020 (6:20 pm)

      Well said!

  • KM May 1, 2020 (3:15 pm)

    I like the phased approach. It helps people know what to expect and see the light at the end of the tunnel. This is really tough, but it’s the right move. In the meantime, let’s do what we can to support those in our community who are suffering.

  • S - in West Seattle May 1, 2020 (3:17 pm)

    What I just watch is just crazy. It is time for change at the state level and Inslee needs to go. He is actively looking at hurting the economy and peoples livelihoods.  

    • Ivan Weiss May 1, 2020 (3:38 pm)

      Inslee is saving people’s lives. He will be re-elected in a landslide. Who do you think is going to beat him in an election? Timmy the chair thief? The Nazi sheriff from Tumbleweedville?

      • S - In West Seattle May 1, 2020 (4:44 pm)

        He is not saving lives. Don’t pull that BS on me. The curve is flat and we have done what he wanted. His magic gray line on his chart is nonsense. 

        • Ivan Weiss May 1, 2020 (4:54 pm)

          Whatever you say, doctor.

        • BBILL May 1, 2020 (7:56 pm)

          Maybe the curve is flat *because* of the effort put forward.

    • Carrie May 1, 2020 (3:39 pm)

      It hasn’t occurred to you that he might have a reason for doing that?  You think he doesn’t know he’s harming the economy?  He probably knows in far greater detail than you possibly could. 

    • Duh May 1, 2020 (3:52 pm)

      And saving lives while doing so. Dork

      • Cool Rick May 1, 2020 (4:16 pm)

        Maybe…If a suppression strategy isn’t possible then he’s not saving lives, only prolonging economic pain. We don’t really know right now.

        • BBILL May 1, 2020 (7:58 pm)

          What we know is that Washington was once the “hot spot,” but now Washington is way down the list of states with the most cases.

  • eigenwijs May 1, 2020 (3:17 pm)

    I was expecting (hoping?) he would make wearing masks mandatory.  Any indication why he’s not doing that?

    • S - In West Seattle May 1, 2020 (3:29 pm)

      You cant tell me what I have to wear. This is America I have the freedom of choice.  

      • eigenwijs May 1, 2020 (5:23 pm)

        @ S – IN WEST SEATTLEYes, you do. You also have the right to be denied service if you choose to not follow requirements for service.

      • rme May 1, 2020 (5:44 pm)

        Okay so you do know there are already lots of laws in America, right? Including restrictions on what one can wear in public. 

      • wscommuter May 1, 2020 (6:17 pm)

        Well, that’s stupid.  No – no one can “force” you to wear a mask.  But good luck shopping for, you know, food , and other stuff, now that retailers are going to require a mask to enter their store (which as private property owners, they have every right to do, under those same freedoms you’re whining about).  Or are you one of those AR-15-toting idiots like those morons in full battle gear storming the Michigan state house yesterday?  Speaking of quivering cowards …

    • DataDriven May 1, 2020 (3:45 pm)

      Probably because there is still no evidence (or at least no scientific consensus about the evidence) that wearing masks actually prevents transmission of the virus.  They *might* help, but they might not if made, fitted or worn correctly, and they are not a substitute for other protocols.

      • BBILL May 1, 2020 (8:00 pm)

        Do you have any proof that there is “still no evidence?”

    • Access May 1, 2020 (3:53 pm)

      There are vast amounts of people across the state who have no access to masks. We can’t even get people tested & we are just beginning with the concept of contact tracing. How on Earth would this “requirement” be deployed? People can’t get food in some areas right now. Hoping for this is a bit of a head scratcher. Yes, face masks are important in certain cases, but requiring items that significant numbers of people don’t have access to is absolutely horrible policy. 

      • mrsB May 1, 2020 (4:39 pm)

        I made six masks by hand from an old pillow case and pony tail elastics.  If I can do it, anyone can.  People need to take responsibility for their own wellbeing, as well as others.  

      • eigenwijs May 1, 2020 (5:30 pm)

        @ACCESS There are already 7 states that *are* requiring residents to cover their faces when they visit essential businesses or use public transportation, with the caveat that they are no substitute for social distancing and staying home. Enforcement of this varies in each state, from being denied entry or access to a service to a hefty fine. We’re not talking N95 masks for everyone – the masks that MRSB made work, as would a bandanna or a scarf. It’s something everyone can do.

        • WR May 1, 2020 (9:04 pm)

          Mandating masks everywhere round be quite stupid and will make things much much worse. So glad Inslee has the sense to not mandate masks.   That would be idiotic. 

    • Stay well May 1, 2020 (5:05 pm)

      Maybe this will be discussed in the new ‘stay home, stay well’ order on Monday.

      It feels like our country is behind on wearing masks. It has appeared that other countries got on this more quickly and citizens have been cooperative.

      I don’t understand why some here feel so negatively about wearing a mask.  The CDC is recommending it, and if it helps even some of the time, why not do what we can to try to help.

      There has been a lot of info shared for how to create a simple face covering out of things you have at home.  Just do what you can. Get some bandanas and some coffee filters, make it work.

    • WR May 1, 2020 (8:58 pm)

      Mandated masks eigenwijs? You were actually hoping for that?!
      Living in that amount of perpetual fear is not healthy.

  • Zmmr May 1, 2020 (3:34 pm)

    Universal income and health care ..  We can just stay home and stay Sane

    • WSB May 1, 2020 (3:43 pm)

      Wut … we have neither of those.

  • WSBizOwner May 1, 2020 (3:38 pm)

    Now more than ever everyone need to support local small business. Another month of this will definitely test what businesses are going to survive, and your support can make the difference. Small business owners can not get unemployment, the financial aid is a lottery at best, and PPP is only for payroll, which most businesses don’t have because they had to lay everyone off. Payroll does not includ ownership, so that money would have to be paid back. As a small business owner, I want to let people know that even a small sale amount helps. Enough of those can help cover expenses while we try to figure out new ways to make income.

    • CAM May 1, 2020 (6:09 pm)

      If the owner of a business formally paid themselves a salary out of the businesses earnings I’m fairly certain that counts as payroll just like any other employees. My friends who applied for the PPP included their salary in the application. 

    • HS May 1, 2020 (6:46 pm)

      Agreed. I may have misunderstood but self employed/ small bus owners can file for unemployment as of 4/18. 

  • Anna May 1, 2020 (3:39 pm)

    There are lots of studies that question the efficacy of cloth masks. On Wednesday he seemed to say that the data does not support making mask wearing mandatory.

    • Stay well May 1, 2020 (5:11 pm)

      And yet the CDC is recommending people wear cloth masks, and Governor Inslee was wearing one at the start of his address on Wednesday.

      So experts and leaders are clearly encouraging people to do this. Even if they aren’t 100% effective, all of the time, they will help some.

      • WR May 1, 2020 (9:07 pm)

        I agree that masks should be strongly encouraged, but not mandated. 

  • Anon May 1, 2020 (3:42 pm)

    Thank you Inslee for a reasoned plan. Until there is a cure or vaccine it will take some real care to have an economy and keep citizens/workers even somewhat safe. As a nurse I feel that reopening happens too fast for the severity of this disease, but you make such a good case for moving back to increasing productivity. I just hope we will be ready to pause if/when a second wave threatens to overwhelm us.

  • T May 1, 2020 (3:50 pm)

    I find it difficult to follow the press conference as closely as I would like.  Having a transcript would be great. I was only able to find transcripts from April 21st and older. Is anyone aware of where I can find a transcription in a timely fashion?  Thanks!

    • WSB May 1, 2020 (4:15 pm)

      The only time I’ve seen a transcript is when the gov’s appearance was an “address to the state,” not a news conference preceded by “remarks,” as was the case again today. But whenever he makes an announcement, there’s eventually an accompanying news release and Medium post; as I mentioned above, those will appear (usually within a couple hours) at governor.wa.gov…

    • BBILL May 1, 2020 (8:13 pm)

      Write to the Governor’s office and ask for a transcript.

  • Aerial Observer May 1, 2020 (3:57 pm)

    Thanks to Gov. Inslee for more great leadership during this crisis, and to WSB for covering it so well. These decisions can’t be easy.

  • AMD May 1, 2020 (3:59 pm)

    I like this approach.  It makes sense.  I would like, in future discussions, clarification about whether or not live theatre/concerts are included in the category with movie theatres (reduced audiences) or if it would be part of Phase 4.  I’ll be honest; this timeline is even more aggressive than I was thinking it would be, and I’m grateful for that.  I’m exceptionally grateful to live in Washington, where we (the people and the government together) were able to slow the spread so well.  I’m hopeful that the outbreaks near D.C. and around the midwest are contained quickly and don’t impact our march forward here.

    • WSB May 1, 2020 (4:12 pm)

      Nightclubs seemed to be last tier, but we’ll see for sure as soon as the gov’s office puts up the text versions, slides and all.

    • CAM May 1, 2020 (8:46 pm)

      Concert venues and sporting events are phase 4. I wouldn’t compare live events to a movie in terms of ease of social distancing. 

      • AMD May 2, 2020 (7:54 am)

        I was thinking more like ArtsWest or Seattle Symphony (for concerts).  Their seating arrangement is similar to that of movie theatres (except the symphony’s house is much larger).  Bummer that they’ll have to wait longer than the movies.  Live theatre employs a lot more local folks than movies do.

  • aRF May 1, 2020 (4:04 pm)

    Too bad there isn’t some big infrastructure project that we could get busy on while we’re stuck at home, especially with the recent UofMN report that puts pandemic measures continuing in some form for 18-24 months.

    • John May 2, 2020 (2:35 am)

      If you think people are going to put up with this for 18 to 24 months you’re kidding yourself

  • Bryan May 1, 2020 (4:09 pm)

    He’s just wrong and ignorant. More testing equals more positives. It makes no sense. Hey people, as mire testing becomes available there will be more positives. Look at the death rate.

    • West Seattle since 1979 May 2, 2020 (4:46 am)

      Bryan, if everyone could get tested periodically, whoever tested positive, plus their family and people they had contact with could quarantine themselves, rather than have everyone quarantined. If we’d had plenty of tests to begin with, we could have been doing this all along. But because we had a shortage of tests and they were only to be used on people who were showing symptoms, everyone had to be quarantined. 

  • TJ May 1, 2020 (4:09 pm)

    I type this from Chelan and can tell you that many are very worried about government overreach here and the damage to their economy during the normally busy summer travel season. It is time for those who are tired of this and believe the numbers say it’s time to let go of this to ignore Inslee and open up things on our own. Once the true number of people that have had this comes out it will be clear this is far less lethal than told to us, and herd immunity will be the way to challenge this. I’m doing that now. No more living under a tyrant 

    • flimflam May 1, 2020 (5:25 pm)

      i knew you’d chime in with your little vacation update! you are so brave to vacation in the face of tyranny!! lol. your sacrifice for the good of all is appreciated!

    • rme May 1, 2020 (5:46 pm)

      Good thing we don’t live in Chelan! Hope you and your 12 friends don’t infect anyone while you’re there. 

    • Mr J May 1, 2020 (6:34 pm)

      Maybe make that libertarian stronghold your forever home? This is hurting everyone. But we do this for the greater good and saving lives and not overwhelming our healthcare system. I know it’s hard to not think of ourselves as the center of the universe and that all gov is out to get us, but maybe try for a few months and turn that computer off.  

      • KM May 1, 2020 (7:49 pm)

        Chelan is a wonderful community. It just has some unfortunate visitors.

    • David May 1, 2020 (7:18 pm)

      HOOOORAY! I was wondering how TJ is doing on his annual trip with friends. Thank the heavens we have an update. Greatest weekend of the year, BRAH.

    • Tsurly May 1, 2020 (8:50 pm)

      Tell your friends in Chelan who worry about government overreach to come pick up their King Co-funded subsidies in person.

    • MW May 1, 2020 (10:06 pm)

      Hi TJ,There are a few of us living over here amongst the progressive haters, who totally agree with you.  We hope lots of eastern Wa counties and as many western counties, as possible, ignore Inslee and open up, leaving Big Puget Sound to explain their business-destroying logic a month from now. Today, Texas opened malls, restaurants,  beaches.  “Feels just wonderful” said one restaurant owner   Today Inslee  declared WA state closed for yet another month.    How’s that feel, Washingtonian?

      • Tsurly May 2, 2020 (3:57 am)

        It is clear that you didn’t listen to Inslee’s press conference, or read what WSB wrote above. He indicated that individual WA counties could apply for variances to the phased approach based on their local public health metrics. Translation: some of those eastern WA counties could start opening different business sooner than say, King Co. You Trumpers really need to work on basic reading and comprehension skills.

        • S - in West Seattle May 5, 2020 (9:19 am)

          Why in the Hell would you need to apply to reopen. That is just ridiculous.  

      • 2 Much Whine May 2, 2020 (10:07 am)

        MW – Texas already has more than double the number of cases as Washington so you might want to re-think holding up that state as a shining example of the right way to approach this virus.

  • rb May 1, 2020 (4:12 pm)

     “Inslee says he was talking with a Starbucks executive who said they’re “adapting” so he believes that’s what everyone needs to do.”  Sigh! Like all restaurants have the financial means to do what Starbucks does. Walmart is adapting, why can’t the small mom and pop store? His thought process, not mine.   

    • WSB May 1, 2020 (4:18 pm)

      That’s why I mentioned it. The question seemed to be more about the restaurants that are hurting – the indies -not about the big chains.

    • Thistlemist May 1, 2020 (5:10 pm)

      Totally! That was a really tone deff and a slap in the face to a lot of owners who are trying as hard as they can to stay afloat. I am not saying anything about this is easy or that we don’t need to extend things and adapt. However, I expect better displays of empathy from our leaders when talking about its effects. It is a legitimate question that deserves better then a flippant “I spoke with the CEO of a million dollor world wide organization so all is fine”.

      • BBILL May 1, 2020 (8:17 pm)

        What do you suggest; what are the other options?

        • Thistlemist May 2, 2020 (9:42 am)

          Honestly, for starters, answers that display an understanding of the economic factors that drive large segments of your state’s income. Restaurants survive by packing the house full… Its the only way the numbers crunch. This is a well studied industry fact. Now I am in no way saying that is the metrix by which we make public health decisions (I agree with the stay home stay safe) and sure 50% capacity is better then no capacity. However, I hold my representatives to a high bar and was disapointed by the casual and flipant way this was addressed. How hard is it to be honest and just say this will not be economicly viable for some restaurants but its what we have to do to stay safe. Saying you talked to a international coffee chain and since they adapted ok, you will too, was redundant and flippant when that is the last thing needed right now. Starbucks is NOT the same as a freaken independently owned corner dinner or even a multi location company like Tom Douglas and honestly, Inslee has enough aids and info to know this. I have been highly disapointed in general by his communication, not his desicions. Throughout the state, economic lives are up in flames and people are emotional about loosing jobs and bussiness that are tightly bound to their very indentity, let alone financial well being. Have the respect to talk to them on a adult level and don’t gloss over the impact. 

  • Cool Rick May 1, 2020 (4:14 pm)

    I feel like Inslee has handled this rather poorly relative to most other governors. He consistently takes weak stances and speaks in meaningless platitudes while not providing any real information. He’s come across as afraid to make any decisions. It’s also a really bad look to consistently harp on testing while not being able to define what the specific needs are or even what steps are being taken to meet those needs.

    • Lagartija Nick May 2, 2020 (9:24 am)

      15,000 people have died across the country in the last week. About 75 people have died in Washington in the last week. I’d say Inslee is doing a terrific job.

  • Bryan May 1, 2020 (4:14 pm)

    What kind of answers are those. Duh duh duh…

  • Swatch May 1, 2020 (4:16 pm)

    Which phase includes being able to see my dentist?

    • A May 1, 2020 (4:46 pm)

      I wonder about this as well.  Or for my son to see his orthodontist?

      • M May 1, 2020 (5:10 pm)

        My sister saw an orthodontist yesterday to get braces.

      • WSMom May 1, 2020 (8:05 pm)

        I just got an email from my daughter’s orthodontist reminding me to make her an appointment.

    • Stay well May 1, 2020 (5:21 pm)

      Looks like phase 3, that’s when most businesses will be able to open up.

  • Lin May 1, 2020 (4:19 pm)

    Thank you Gov Inslee for leading us in this time of uncertainty. 

    • Seaweed May 1, 2020 (6:11 pm)

      Read more.

  • waikikigirl May 1, 2020 (4:30 pm)

    I’m assuming all the people who are in agreement with the Governor are people who are either able to work from home or work for an essential company. We are both employees of essential companies but my hours have been cut back and we are OK but I am so sad for the people who are not essential employees.
    And I am not saying I disagree with Governor Inslee but I am also not saying I agree with all of his decisions either.

    • Seattle Refugee May 1, 2020 (4:50 pm)

      Good for you, a critical mind is the best kind. I too am still being paid but the lasting effects of this on the already “underfunded” people is going to be painful.  What would take me a month to recover from financially could take someone else over a year.  Many someone elses.

    • Elton May 1, 2020 (5:00 pm)

      +1 on thisI can’t say if the governor is doing the right thing or the wrong thing, but I think he’s doing his level best with the data he has available in an impossible circumstance. No matter what choice he makes, you can bet a lot of people will be unhappy. It’s perfectly reasonable to disagree with him and not be happy with his decision, but some people are being unnecessarily nasty about it – he’s not a power-hungry tyrant trying to rule your lives with an iron fist, he’s a man trying to balance saving lives with bringing back the economy while trying to avoid a second outbreak. At least give him the benefit of the doubt.  If you want to be angry about something, be angry about the lack of test kits. The whole underlying story of this pandemic has been how the lack of testing has left us completely blind in terms of assessing where we actually stand with this virus. Without sufficient testing, Inslee is really in the dark about the severity of the situation.

    • Stay well May 1, 2020 (5:43 pm)

      I can see why you might jump to that assumption, but it’s not true.  Many people are out of work and impacted but still support the approach the governor is taking, because we agree it’s the right approach. Like he said today, you can’t have economic health, without having public health. 

      Also, fyi, there are unemployment benefits available for those who were working prior to this (and qualify) and are currently unable to work the same amount of hours, due to covid-19.  You should look into getting partial benefits, if your hours were cut.  This isn’t forever, we just need to weather this most challenging time for a few months.

    • wscommuter May 1, 2020 (6:24 pm)

      Well said … my heart goes out to all the people who have lost their jobs or otherwise are financially devastated by this pandemic (including my son).  Proof of that fact that this crisis is far more than just medical in nature – the ripple effects to us economically, socially and ethically are things not encountered in literally 100 years.  I’m not a huge Inslee fan, but mostly think he’s done the best he could.  But I also recognize that there are no perfect or certain answers in how to handle this.  I trust that he is acting in good faith and his best intentions in following sound medical/scientific advice … but there’s no way to make everyone happy about that and I suspect that if you could ask him, he’d acknowledge that there are no certain paths we’re following.  

    • Kravitz May 1, 2020 (6:30 pm)

      @waikikigirl – Just letting you know that I think your assumption is pretty accurate, but there are also folks like me who agree with Inslee’s stay at home order and are currently unemployed because of it. I have a steep mortgage and bills just like everyone else, and I’m frightened. But I also feel that natural disasters occur in life that force us to alter our paths (think Hurricane Katrina or a massive earthquake). People lose everything in those events, and when we see them on television in the aftermath, they are always grateful to have made it through the storm with their life. Things can be replaced. The road ahead is going to be hard and scary for millions of people–I am scared. But I think the only way out, is through.

      • HS May 1, 2020 (9:18 pm)

        Right there with you Kravitz.

  • Seattle Refugee May 1, 2020 (4:42 pm)

    It is truly tragic how many of you blindly follow this man and refuse to look at the actual data.  You have less than a percent chance of dying by COVID-19 and if all this is necessary for viruses like this then why didn’t we have to shut down the country for the last 4?   What are we going to do when the next one comes, this is not sustainable and is a narrow minded answer.  The first case in this country was actually in LA two weeks prior to Kirkland.  If it is as bad as they are leading you to believe we would all be dead.  How is it that all the grocery workers aren’t dead now?   half of them aren’t wearing masks.  How is it that people think that if this is as bad as we are being led to believe that its OK to order food delivery from anywhere and have at least 3 people touching your food before you even see it.  If this is that bad and the fear of some people is valid, we would all be dead.  If you are that worried then YOU STAY HOME and let the rest of us live our lives.  Millions of us have already had it and yet we are still forced to pause our lives.  Yes its a virus, no one will question that, but this is a completely overblown reaction to something that is barely deadly unless you are already old or compromised and even then it isn’t a death sentence. unbelievable.

    • S - In West Seattle May 1, 2020 (4:55 pm)

      Amen 

    • Kale May 1, 2020 (5:32 pm)

      Massively short sighted of you. Even if the percentage of severe cases seems low (to you), our healthcare system would be overwhelmed if we didn’t stay in place. New York almost collapsed from the strain. And it gets better: our lives won’t be the same moving forward. We’ll be adjusting how we interact for years to come.

      • Seattle Refugee May 1, 2020 (7:02 pm)

        Yes that is a talking point you have been fed.  Its also not true, but you can believe whatever you want.You might change the way you interact for years to come, but I don’t live my life in fear, otherwise i would never be able to leave the house. I feel really sorry for you actually.

    • Seaweed May 1, 2020 (5:38 pm)

      The sheeple need governing.

    • Stay well May 1, 2020 (6:26 pm)

      For one thing, covid-19 is a novel virus. Each virus and epidemic is somewhat different.  Covid-19 appears to be both a serious virus (more serous health impacts and higher death rate) and appears to be highly contagious.

      For comparison, remember the SARS outbreak some years ago?  SARS is also a coronavirus, and there was a global outbreak. Only 800 people died from this world-wide. More than 65, 000 people have already died from covid-19, in just the US, over just a couple of months. And that is with the stay at home order and social distancing efforts. It has been reported that if these measures hadn’t been taken, the number of deaths in the US could reach into the millions. Yes, millions.  Again, only 800 people died worldwide during the SARS outbreak.

      Also, according to the WHO’s website (World Health Organization):’…the data we have so far indicate that the crude mortality ratio (the number of reported deaths divided by the reported cases) is between 3-4%, the infection mortality rate (the number of reported deaths divided by the number of infections) will be lower. For seasonal influenza, mortality is usually well below 0.1%

      You ask why more people haven’t died… the stay at home orders and social distancing measures have helped greatly.

      I hope this helps.

      • Seattle Refugee May 1, 2020 (7:13 pm)

        I am literally looking at the WHO (btw, you needing to add the parentheses for WHO is very telling of how you think of yourself) website right now and here are the current numbers….   confirmed cases 3,181,642 with 224,301 deaths.  That is worldwide numbers.  Your percentages are wildly off, but more importantly you cant base a mortality rate off of simply confirmed cases.  Many millions have already had this virus, including myself.  Most of those millions didn’t even know they had it.  As i stated previously, it has been confirmed that the first case of this virus was in LA a full two weeks prior to the Kirkland case and us knowing it had made it here.  2 full weeks of no social distancing and yet not everyone in CA is dead or dying.  It does help, but not in the way you think it does.

        • Stay well May 1, 2020 (8:15 pm)

          How you chose to read negatively into my including the full name in parenthesis, and being accusational  is very telling about you.  I only did that to be helpful, for ease of reading.

          I was just sharing information that I thought would be helpful.  If you read anything negative into what I shared, that is how you’re choosing to interpret, but that’s not how I intended it.

          Also, the info I provided was a direct quote from their website.  Here is the page:
          https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/q-a-similarities-and-differences-covid-19-and-influenza

          • why May 2, 2020 (11:36 am)

            Just curious Seattle Refugee, are you saying that the entire US is shut down just because no one bothered to look at the “actual data”?

    • Lagartija Nick May 2, 2020 (9:34 am)

      Here are some facts: 1) 15,000 people have died across the country in the last week. About 75 people have died in Washington in the last week. Stay Home Stay Healthy is working. 2) So far 225,000 people have died globally, 65,000 of those are in the U.S. The U.S. has 1/30 of the world’s population but 1/3 of all deaths. Our national strategy is clearly NOT working.

  • A May 1, 2020 (4:48 pm)

    I also wonder about summer camps for kids?  My child’s school is going ahead with plans for summer camps, will this be legal (as a means of child care)?

    • Boop May 2, 2020 (8:30 am)

      You are going to send your kid to a summer camp after all this?!

      • Wsdragons May 3, 2020 (9:53 am)

        A household with working parent/s who were planning on camps for care this summer need to know if they are running. For planning purposes and work needs, some of us need to know about camps, and yes, need to send our kids there in order to maintain the jobs we do have. Not everyone has a parent or support system that can stay home all summer. Depending on your job, if they run then you are no longer eligible for Emergency FMLA and 2/3 pay if I have to take time off. If they don’t run or are modified to a point that your child cannot go, that is a big deal.  

  • WSB May 1, 2020 (4:53 pm)

    The chart detailing the 4 phases and who’s affected by each one is here:
    https://www.governor.wa.gov/news-media/chart-washingtons-phased-approach

    The forthcoming extension order will have more fine print, but for now, here it is:
    https://www.governor.wa.gov/news-media/chart-washingtons-phased-approach

  • W SEA Fields May 1, 2020 (5:43 pm)

    Thoughtful people can differ, but I’m not sure I understand the unbridled enthusiasm for this extension.  Does his “data-driven decision” include stats on depression, suicide, domestic violence, and small businesses that will never reopen?  We were promised “stay home, stay safe, and flatten the curve” and now the goal posts have moved.  Not everyone can afford the luxury of binge-watching Tiger King with a bottle of Cab, waiting for the Prime grocery delivery to arrive; we have neighbors for whom this is a much more stressful and complicated time.  Is a small shop or salon that can limit activity to x customers per square foot, with masks/gloves and cleaning, any more dangerous than the grocery store and not knowing who rifled through the bread shelf before you?  Epidemiologists are having their day, but they are neither trained nor paid to consider other costs…and they are mounting.

    • Seaweed May 1, 2020 (7:03 pm)

      This “decision” is a political agenda costumed in a fabric of medical science to suit the tailor.  

    • John W May 1, 2020 (8:20 pm)

      The stats on “depression, suicide, domestic violence” are somewhat perplexing with domestic violence reports down and no reports of morgue overloads due to suicide as compared to COVID-19.   Some small businesses will never re-open while some people will still be exposed and die.  What kind of data driven results does one choose that lead to human death?  Does that small business owner have social responsibility when lives are at stake?

      • rac May 2, 2020 (9:10 am)

        Not true.”Everywhere else except for Snohomish County domestic violence calls
        have shot up as we are being asked to stay home. The calls were up 21
        percent in Seattle for the month of March. And in King County they’re up
        well over normal call volume.In Tacoma they’re up 18.3 percent compared to earlier this year.”https://komonews.com/news/local/local-businesses-hit-hard-by-burglars-during-covid-19-pandemic

    • WR May 1, 2020 (9:17 pm)

      Very well said W SEA Fields.  Very well said. 

    • AMD May 2, 2020 (8:09 am)

      My support of Inslee’s policies are driven mostly by conversations with dear friends all over the country and the world.  Friends and family in states where everything is being ordered to open are terrified because they’re seeing the effect on their communities and feel powerless to stop it.  Making the personal choice to stay home ceases to become an option when your unemployment eligibility ends with the order to open things up.  Contrary to popular talking points, you do NOT have more choice on how to manage your own safety when everything is open.  You HAVE TO go to work, whether you feel safe doing so or not, and without additional mandated safety measures or even hazard pay.  I’ve lost my job indefinitely because of the shut down.  The company I work for may not exist when this is over (or if it does, my specific job may not if they’re forced to downsize).  As much as I would LOVE to get out of the house more and go back to the job I love, the economic uncertainty and boredom pales in comparison to the anxiety and panic from those who are being forced back to work in their home states, and the grief from the friends who have lost loved ones.  There is no “winning” here, only degrees of losing.  In my opinion, staying home is by far the lesser degree of losing.

      • Stay well May 2, 2020 (10:22 am)

        ‘Friends and family in states where everything is being ordered to open are terrified because they’re seeing the effect on their communities and feel powerless to stop it. Making the personal choice to stay home ceases to become an option when your unemployment eligibility ends with the order to open things up. Contrary to popular talking points, you do NOT have more choice on how to manage your own safety when everything is open. You HAVE TO go to work, whether you feel safe doing so or not, and without additional mandated safety measures or even hazard pay.’

        Yes, well said, thank you.

        Hope your friends stay safe.

  • JM May 1, 2020 (6:15 pm)

    @TJ I hope you and your 12 friends stay in Chelan. Please don’t come back and perhaps you should consider a move to Georgia, Texas or one of those fine states right about now! 

    • Seattle Refugee May 1, 2020 (7:13 pm)

      Seattle is such a loving and accepting place, ive never felt anything like it.

  • Dm May 1, 2020 (6:26 pm)

    Thank you Governor Inslee, and thank you to the commenters that are responding with a clear and  level, informed head.  You are giving me a sense of hope. I’ve run out of patience, and feel a sense of dread because of, citizens who can’t see that we are still in a dangerous place with this virus.  I don’t want to see any more people die, and it’s devastating to me that so many neighbors/commenters don’t care about that, and that they are eager to open up businesses pre maturely and risk the lives of their family and friends…

  • Admiral Mom May 1, 2020 (6:37 pm)

    What does this mean for schools and summer camps?

  • Greg May 1, 2020 (7:33 pm)

    Reading the small sample size of Seattle represented on this thread it is clear that this nation is deeply divided on this issue.  In this global pandemic division is deadly.  It really doesn’t matter which side is right or wrong or who is to blame.  The only logical thing a rational person can do is to plan for  future hardship in a careful constructive way.  Develop resources, reduce excess liabilities, strengthen family plans, and don’t participate in behavior that promotes susceptibility to this virus.  Be prepared.

  • Juju May 1, 2020 (7:44 pm)

    The ignorance is heavy on the vine.

    Decisions that are data-driven provide one with a sense of confidence in the decision.

    But this doesn’t mean the decision is the correct decision.

    Save your breath, this doesn’t mean the decision is wrong either.

    But be assured that the landscape of history is littered with data-driven decisions that led to severe negative outcomes.

    The math is always right until humans get involved with their assumptions and interpretations.

    H/T to W Sea Fields for providing a macro view of the situation in contrast to the stupefying hysteria that is on display courtesy of those with a narrow focus.

    • I agree, but May 1, 2020 (8:19 pm)

      The divide is incredible. It reads like the extremes….Juju, you make a great addition to WSeaFields points but ignore the fact that we had the ‘luxury’ of using data on the fly over a long stretch to adapt to a potential world disaster. As a two-time hurricane displaced person, I would have loved to have months to deliberate how my life would’ve been destroyed and apply for government assistance…..etc. We will ALL suffer from this in some way. But for the love of ??? Will we all just appreciate that we are saving the lives of our neighbors? 

  • ScubaFrog May 1, 2020 (7:50 pm)

    This is good.  King County’s still seeing far too many cases per day, we’d see an automatic relapse.  Thank goodness for the data we have.  It’s sad that people are repeating trump’s stupid, inane, talking points based on no data about “derp muh freedums, what about suicides, depression certain death while you shelter in place, blame your govnernors, not me!11”, a pandemic will kill you, sheltering in place will not.  His supporters have the emotional/intellectual intelligence of amoebas.  Blaming Inslee for trump’s  total lack of leadership and 100% mishandling of the pandemic is just abhorrent.  If we had a national leader who responded to the pandemic instead of golfing and barking out tweets/doing press conferences daily (then passing the buck to incompetent pence), someone who was engaged with the nation re fighting the pandemic, we’d be months ahead.  Total misplaced blame re Inslee, calling him a “tyrant”.   Thank goodness Seattle’s blue, our Governor will always be Democrat, and reason will always win in West Seattle

    • MM May 1, 2020 (11:07 pm)

      Covid-19 virus is not red or blue. Stop the politics. 

      • ScubaFrog May 2, 2020 (4:33 am)

        I didn’t such a thing could be politicized.  The first thing the barking pumpkin did was blame democrats for the pandemic, then the media.  Then Cuomo, then Inslee, then Chinese-Americans, then Obama, then Biden, now China for some Intel-debunked lab theory by Fox. Believe me, I know a pathogen isn’t anyone’s fault, it’s how they deal with it (or don’t, trump).  Anyhow, sheltering in place will bring the curve further down, I’m still so sad to see the mean of infections per day in King County being +/- 150 per day.  Inslee’s making life-saving decisions.  We’re still free to out and about responsibly.  We have a free media, free speech  <3  WSBThings could be a LOT worse! 

      • West Seattle since 1979 May 2, 2020 (5:06 am)

        I noticed criticisms of Inslee—don’t those also count as politics?

      • Seaweed May 2, 2020 (8:30 am)

        Oh, you are so wrong about that.

  • cd May 1, 2020 (7:53 pm)

    The state parks open this coming week and also fishing. Get your family outdoors and have a picnic or pick up some food at a local restaurant in the area. Donate to an artist or band by buying there art or music. Help support your local business. They need our help. We can do this.

  • John W May 1, 2020 (8:23 pm)

    the landscape of history is littered with data-driven decisions that led to severe negative outcomes.” Care to list a few examples?

    • Ivan Weiss May 2, 2020 (11:48 am)

      The Vietnam War says hello.

  • Ant May 1, 2020 (8:30 pm)

    Thank you Inslee for being a grown up and making decisions based on science. The freedom crybabies can clench their tag lines and talking points all they want but when they get sick from going to that essential tattoo shop it will be the smart people who provide them adequate healthcare and ultimately pay their bill. 

  • Anna May 1, 2020 (8:47 pm)

    Well said W Sea Fields. This is not a temporary sacrifice for many.

  • MM May 1, 2020 (10:12 pm)

    Wow, lots of bickering. Looks like the WS bridge has been forgotten for the day. One more month for stay at home huh?  WSB do you know if there is information on the impact on WS Businesses?  Like is there a list of which businesses are closing and going out of business for good due to the Covid/stay at home?  Wonder what the Junction(s) (alaska/morgan/admiral) will look like when this is all said and done.  Very sad for all.  

    • WSB May 1, 2020 (10:52 pm)

      The only “closing permanently” announcement we’ve had was someone who was planning to retire anyway (Many Moons). We noticed the new Alki bike shop (Cycle Therapy) cleared out a couple weeks ago, but they have posted on social media that they hope to return. Otherwise, I don’t think we’ll know until there’s a green light to reopen … and some don’t. So many have tried hard to find a way to serve their customers anyway – not just restaurants with pickup/delivery, but other types of businesses (retailers setting up webshops they didn’t previously have, and/or offering shopping via FaceTime, delivery, etc.)… we’ve said it many times before but if you need to buy something, please look for a local indie retailer first … especially with the bridge closure, we need local businesses more than ever before. – TR

  • MW May 2, 2020 (12:13 am)

    Texas let restaurants malls and beaches open today.    Just feels wonderful, said one restaurant owner   https://www.khou.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/it-just-feels-wonderful-restaurant-malls-and-beaches-open-before-the-weekend/285-d283b5ed-46d2-493d-b9c2-475695d6fd0f

    • BBILL May 2, 2020 (2:57 am)

      “Just feels wonderful” is what many drug addicts say.

    • David May 2, 2020 (8:44 am)

      You keep referencing that quote; that it “just feels wonderful”. So the feelings of some restaurant owner in Houston are supposed to make me feel how exactly?

  • KT May 2, 2020 (8:04 am)

    Let me begin by saying I am 65 yrs old and accept I need to, and will,  take extra precautions.  However, I can understand, even if I do not necessarily agree with, people’s disagreements with this “lockdown”.  As reported in today Seattle Times – The Governor has not given specific numbers he’s looking for before easing restrictions.  He said he wants a combination of favorable numbers across the data.  That tells people nothing.  That gives them no reassurances.  It does appear the main weapon has been to stay in your house until this goes away.  Widespread testing has not been done.  Contact tracing has not been done.  People have lost their income and can’t get through the system to file unemployment claims.  People are getting frustrated.  I am not going to say they are wrong.      

    • Thomas Wood May 2, 2020 (2:08 pm)

      Bravo,I agree totally and I’m tired of the Governor playing kick the can

  • BettytheYeti May 2, 2020 (9:12 am)

    “4 Models” used for the shelter in place order. The same theoretical  models have now been revised because they are wrong.  This info will not be spoon fed to you by NYT, CNN, MSNBC.   All 4 incorrect “models” funded by Gates Foundation, including CDC, John Hopkins, and the Murray model of UW.   The Swedish government used evidence based information for their process.  CDC is a vaccine front for Gilead  and other biopharmaceutical company.   Pharma  are the largest supporters of cable news.  Gov. Inslee is following Not leading.

  • Orwell May 2, 2020 (9:36 am)

    I can’t comprehend how Inslee’s decision is seen as “data driven” given that we actually have strong, not projected but actual CFR (case fatality rate) data now that shows if you are tested positive for COVID, you have a 99.75% chance to survive if healthy down to a low of 90% chance of survival if elderly and with co-morbidity issues.  The rate of survival would be even higher if we knew the IFR (Infection Fatality rate) which we don’t know as many with the virus asymptomatic and never tested.https://ourworldindata.org/covid-mortality-riskIf you get Covid, you will probably survive unless elderly and/or immune compromised.Initially we just had theoretical projections.  (200 million dead in USA!)  Now we have more factual data from which to project.  Should we close down business when most (90% – 99.75%) afflicted survive?If emotion and politics are removed from decision making, the math does not support Inslee’s decision to devastate businesses and families and drive us into a dark future unnecessarily, imho.   I’d be interested in differing CFR or IFR data sites.  

  • Lagartija Nick May 2, 2020 (9:42 am)

    Here are some facts: 15,000 people have died in the U.S. in the last week. About 75 people have died in Washington in the last week. Inslee’s Stay Home Stay Healthy plan is working and needs to continue. So far 225,000 people have died globally, 65,000 of those are in the U.S. The U.S. is 1/30 of global population but accounts for 1/3 of all deaths. Our national strategy is clearly NOT working.

  • waikikigirl May 2, 2020 (3:47 pm)

    Just found out the Hair Salon I have been going to for the last 30 years to which they’ve been open for 59 years will not be opening back up… this is such a sad affair for London House Salon and Spa and all the other businesses that will follow.

    • WSB May 2, 2020 (4:15 pm)

      That’s in Burien, right?

      • waikikigirl May 2, 2020 (4:27 pm)

        Yes Burien. They are related to the Husky Deli Family 

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