Faith-based sponsor for Camp Second Chance? That and more @ Community Advisory Committee

(WSB photo, Friday)

By Tracy Record
West Seattle Blog editor

Before Camp Second Chance moved to Myers Way three years ago, it was hosted by a church.

Now a faith-based affiliation might be in its future.

Sunday’s Community Advisory Committee meeting at nearby Arrowhead Gardens brought that bit of news, as well as a reiteration of the milestone we reported earlier in the weekend – that the last tent had been replaced with a “tiny house.”

That was a big part of the camp update presented by resident manager/site coordinator Eric Davis offered the update:

His voice broke as he marveled at the amount of support that’s been expressed by the community. “We just want to have that level of success go toward the rest of the organizations that are struggling.” He also said the shower trailer should be ready to go in a few days once the graywater tank arrives. And he confirmed there’s a new case manager on site, though he was not at the meeting.

CITY UPDATE: Shawn Neal from the city Human Services Department said his colleague Lisa Gustaveson has been looking for a faith-based organization to sponsor Camp 2nd Chance. No further details, but later in the meeting, he said that could enable an extension for the camp at the Myers Way Parcels site, where it’s passed the 2-year limit promised when it became city-sanctioned. CAC member Cinda Stenger said she knows of one faith-based organization that’s “looking at taking over the lease of the land” but she didn’t identify it or comment further. A faith-based sponsor would not replace LIHI as the camp’s contract-holder with the city, Neal said.

We sought further details from HSD today but they have none to disclose, spokesperson Meg Olberding said:

We recognize that the faith-based community is an important part of the safety net and response to homelessness in our city. Many members of the faith-based community do this great work on their own and with other agencies or entities in the community. In order to better coordinate this effort, the City has been engaging with members of the larger faith community about how to work better together in addressing homelessness in a variety of ways. Nothing concrete to share at this time, as we are in the conversation stages.

Local churches have led the way in support for Camp Second Chance, from advocacy to funding and building tiny houses.

COMMITTEE UPDATES: Chair Willow Fulton says things have been quiet and clean. One RV was on Myers Way Sunday and they’ll keep an eye on it. She’s hoping to rally her fellow nearby residents for a roadside cleanup soon. The “major stuff” is already cleaned up, so she hopes neighbors will contribute to the not-so-major cleanup. She’s also looking into “street adoption” rules. You have to commit to a mile, for a year, at least four cleanups, before the recognition signage (“this street adopted by” etc.) can go up, Fulton said. She’s hoping local businesses along Myers Way and vicinity will join in too … Aaron Garcia from the White Center Community Development Association elaboratec on the Refresh cleanup – 50+ volunteers will be in the camp and along Myers Way, painting some tiny houses, cleaning up along Myers Way, 9 am-1 pm on June 8th. He also talked about White Center Pride events next week, and an Art Walk 6-9 pm June 5th, with the Nepantla Cultural Arts Gallery in South Delridge a major hub for it; the White Center Chamber of Commerce is organizing … Stenger, with Sound Foundations NW and Alki UCC, reiterated gratitude and appreciation for the volunteers and donations that made the tiny-house-building possible … Grace Stiller with two local environmental groups had no major updates but offered gratitude. She also said the Nature Stewards have gloves they can lend for the upcoming cleanup.

COMMENTS/CONCERNS/QUESTIONS: CAC member Garcia wondered about the city’s promises of activating the east-side greenbelt after last fall’s cleanup. Stiller said that there seem to be no particular plans because the land is mostly state, not city.

NEXT MEETING: First Sunday in July falls at the end of the 4th of July weekend, so CAC members will confer via e-mail to dedide whether to go ahead with a meeting.

20 Replies to "Faith-based sponsor for Camp Second Chance? That and more @ Community Advisory Committee"

  • Hp resident June 4, 2019 (4:06 am)

    So while I am happy there are no more tents their time is up. We have hosted encampments for ten years and it is enough. It is time for them to move on.

  • Corby June 4, 2019 (7:22 am)

    Back to the tents for them then? 

  • KBear June 4, 2019 (8:32 am)

    Great, HP. Do you have a spare room available?

  • KellyM June 4, 2019 (8:51 am)

    If the encampment is shut down, what happens to those tiny houses?  Are they easily transportable or is the investment in them lost and they sit and decay there?  

    • Question Authority June 4, 2019 (12:39 pm)

      Using the recently closed camp on Aurora Ave as an example, they are left to rot as the mildew and lack of upkeep deems them unfit for further use.  Building them was a mistake as has been proven by experts in the field of homelessness, but the supporters never mention that clearly documented fact.

    • AvalonTom June 5, 2019 (7:30 am)

      I’m a volunteer build coordinator at C2C and can answer all your questions. Reach out to me via https://www.soundfoundationsnw.org/ and I can give you a tour. It’s really a great project that has helped countless people.

  • Friend O'Dinghus June 4, 2019 (10:06 am)

    The faith-based groups can just house them on their land, in their neighborhoods then, k? C2C is a violation of the public trust…time to move to another area of the city (as was promised years ago), thus sharing the burden of chronic homelessness. How about in Leschi??

    • KBear June 4, 2019 (12:03 pm)

      HOMELESSNESS is a violation of the public trust. Stop trying to get rid of homeless people and focus on getting rid of homelessness. Yes, all areas of the city should share in the burden. But that means Highland Park, too. And it means finding additional locations for camps, not shuffling around the existing ones. People complain constantly about money being wasted, so stop wasting money moving camps around. 

      • PB in HP June 4, 2019 (8:32 pm)

        KBEAR- Highland Park has hosted the homeless 10 years. Longer than ANY other neighborhood in the city. I think we can dispense with the b.s. pretense that this is a “everyone does their fair share” proposition and admit that we are just the rug under which Seattle sweeps the mess nobody wants to deal with. But hey, they gave us a crosswalk, so there is that.

        • AvalonTom June 5, 2019 (7:16 am)

          Fun fact for the haters: There are people at C2C that used to own and rent properties in HP.  C2C is not a burden on you in anyway unless you dont like the fact that the poor breathe the same air as you do.  Opening up more camps in more places will be part of the overall effort to help our homeless neighbors around the city.  Different programs work for different people.  You seem to be upset that the rich neighborhoods are not sharing the burden. I agree with you on that and would love to see more camps in more corners of the city. I spend lots of time at C2C and can tell you that this is an effective program to get people off the streets and into housing.  You dont need to act like the NIMBY’s that happen to have lots more money then you. You have a choice to support programs that actually want to help your neighbours.

  • Buttercup June 4, 2019 (12:00 pm)

    Once again I see hard hearted people with negative replays. That’s why I now tell people I live in White Center( which is where C2C is located) rather than admit I live in Highland Park. Shameful. They are not hurting anyone.

  • TJ June 4, 2019 (6:11 pm)

    We know housing Seattle is expensive, so that’s why it seems strange that this encampment is in the city. If I was homeless and actually looking for stable housing, I wouldn’t think camping and hoping to find cheap housing in one of the most expensive cities in the country makes sense. C2C was supposed to be gone, time for the city to honor its word. 

    • Sigh June 5, 2019 (7:05 am)

      Most of the homeless have jobs.  They can’t live in Graham or some other cheaper city and still get to work.  People also tend to stay in the area where they have ties (friends, family) independent of affordability.  Insisting that people move hundreds or thousands of miles away from their loved ones simply because they’re too poor for you is ridiculous. 

  • Buttercup June 4, 2019 (8:04 pm)

    TJ.   Where do you suggest that these people go?. You said yourself that housing here is expensive. They need age as to transportation act as since many of the residents have jobs within city limits. Many others are seeing health professionals to overcome health and or addiction issues. Are these people hurting you? Are they disrupting the area?. No 912 calls last month and they are helping to improve the area. I see much less than that from people who are living under nicer conditions. What do you do to help the situation? My guess is nothing other than agitate with your words.

  • Sillygoose June 4, 2019 (8:07 pm)

    This is great news, but…as I enlarge this photo I see a Home depot lumber cart, several bikes under tarps. Do you monitor/question possibly stolen items that show up? 

    • WSB June 9, 2019 (7:29 pm)

      Home Depot is among the donors.

  • 1994 June 4, 2019 (10:26 pm)

    Camp Second Chance had its chance and now is the time for the campers to move forward away from a homeless camp.  How long is the city going to allow this to continue? I don’t understand how the city can allow people to occupy city property & be allowed to continue staying there for years,  building little houses and other structures to give a sense of permanency to the place, obtaining electricity – who pays the electric bill?  Who pays for the honey buckets – those are spendy.  

    • AvalonTom June 5, 2019 (7:02 am)

      You do realise that these are not the same people right? The camp is a transitional space. Some people stay longer then others but at the end people are transitioning into housing on a regular basis. This program actually works. The limitations are in finding suitable housing for folks and not a “sense of permanency” Few days ago some of the folks there secured apartments and are in the process of moving out right now. Last month a few more residents found hosing. It’s not instant as the issues the people are facing are not always that easy to address.  LIHI pays the honey bucket and electric bills as they are the city contractor that operates the facilities there.  They have a full time housing case worker on site helping people transition.  Would you rather have these folks living in tents on your street? People complain about the homeless on the streets, you are complaining that they are in a safe transitional camp.  Are you interested in kicking them back out on the streets? Preferably not in your backyard I would assume.   To all the people posting unfounded and ignorant comments, for god sake educate yourself about the homelessness crisis that most cities in this nation are experiencing. There are many different ways the different folks can be helped. This particular model is one of the best functioning in the city. There are groups coming from other counties and states to learn how they can copy it to help the homeless in their own neck of the woods. Please come visit the camp and I will give you a personal tour. Its a positive, supportive and safe place for people to get their footing again. 

  • Buttercup June 5, 2019 (5:14 am)

    TJ.   Where do you suggest that these people go?. You said yourself that housing here is expensive. They need age as to transportation act as since many of the residents have jobs within city limits. Many others are seeing health professionals to overcome health and or addiction issues. Are these people hurting you? Are they disrupting the area?. No 911 calls last month and they are helping to improve the area. I see much less than that from people who are living under nicer conditions. What do you do to help the situation? My guess is nothing other than agitate with your words.

  • flimflam June 5, 2019 (5:27 am)

    its great that the camp is “trouble free” but the simple fact that they cut locks and have been ie squatting here for years is not right and not how a legitimate organization does things, in my opinion.

Sorry, comment time is over.