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November 22, 2011 at 1:52 am #741113
csw2119ParticipantYou know who’s afraid of Occupy Wall St.? Bank of America and Chase. Have you noticed how many ads they have had on TV since Bank Transfer Day?
November 22, 2011 at 2:03 am #741114
kootchmanMemberWho’s afraind of Occupy Wall Street? No one. Did you notice what BofA and Chase did…? They bought more air time. They win.
November 22, 2011 at 2:14 am #741115
JanSParticipanthahaha..JV…you are so full of yourself…you think you are so clever. Your self-importance is amazing. However, you and I both know that if legally permitted “occupiers” showed up at Westlake legally, in a protest ,with a rifle on their shoulder, that they would be hassled by police, and you would be calling them violent.. I don’t care if you have guns or not. But for a peaceable assembly, why did the guy in the picture feel that he had to have…not a hand gun, in a holster, but a show of arms in bringing a rifle? What? In case he had an opportunity to hunt? lolol…
November 22, 2011 at 2:15 am #741116
csw2119ParticipantAnd why would they buy more air time? On another note, we should all be banking local. Sound Community Bank and BECU have great customer service, and services.
November 22, 2011 at 2:17 am #741117
JanSParticipantI just joined Umpqua Bank…great service, great community interest and involvement…and local…
November 22, 2011 at 2:26 am #741118
DBPMemberBank local?
Do you know how many times I’ve tried that very thing? But every time I tried to bank local, “local” got gobbled up by “global.” :-)
Umpqua Bank is headquartered in Portland, btw. Which, granted, is still localler than say . . . New York.
Anyway . . . You go, girl!
November 22, 2011 at 3:32 am #741119
kootchmanMemberredblack you are such a revisionist
“as for you, kootch, i love how you always conflate the fledgling u.s. government of the 18th century with the rich, corporate, blue-blooded aristocrats that the colonists overthrew.”
First, the USA per capita.. was actually richer than Great Britain..because the tax burden was lower! Go figure huh amazing these facts eh? Second have ya taken a gander at the signers? Wealthiest men and families in the colonies. Now that WAS the one per cent.
“People try to live within their income so they can afford to pay taxes to a government that can’t live within its income.”
November 22, 2011 at 3:53 am #741120
JanSParticipantyes, Portland is the home of Umpqua…local enough for me :) And..you get a chocolate every time you visit the bank :)
November 22, 2011 at 4:18 am #741121
csw2119ParticipantChocolate???!!! I may have to switch from BECU!!
November 22, 2011 at 4:56 am #741122
JanSParticipantI know…worked for me – lol…oh, and it’s next door to Menchies – lol
November 22, 2011 at 6:08 am #741123
JoBParticipantgo away for a day and look what happens..
JV.. at least it think this in reply to a statement you posted…
have you heard the saying “if it bleeds it leads” ?
this is the primary directive of those news organizations you are counting on to show you what is really happening at Occupy Wall Street.
they cover the demonstrations and the violence and the disrespect because that is what makes news…
how long would it take you to change the channel on a quiet respectful conversation between 5 or 10 people discussing the value of civil disobedience or how to minimize the value of advertising dollars in elections or even how to fund local sanitation workers?
about 5 seconds.
if you are relying on the nightly news for all of your information, you are destined to remain largely uninformed.
kootch…
is there anything you think an advertising dollar can’t buy?
perhaps the big banks would have been wiser to invest their money in customer service than advertising after people have already begun the process of removing their money from the bank.
November 22, 2011 at 6:59 am #741124
kootchmanMemberNope. That is why we will spend over 2 billion dolars in the next presidential election. About 1/2 of the deficit created each and every day by the federal government. You tell me.. what will work, the ads or a nibble at geting our fiscal house in order? Why, the ad campaign naturally. The Dems will promise to spend more, dress it up up in slick-o-rama as furthering the cause of the great nation of progressive dependency. The Repubs will also do some audience sampling for some contrived message of shrinking government, holding it accountable and all such matters. The better ad agencies will win. Message? Whatever ya want to hear…
November 22, 2011 at 9:08 am #741125
JanSParticipant2 billion for a presidential election…and then we question why Congress can’t get it’s act together, and get some legislative people’s business done. They – and I mean all of them – have no idea what reality is…they do not walk their talk.
November 22, 2011 at 1:42 pm #741126
redblackParticipantkootch, i haven’t revised history one iota. when the signers talked about tyranny, they were talking about the british crown. they were talking about entrenched wealth and “sovereign” aristocrats ruling the working and merchant classes, whom they decided could rule themselves with a representative, electoral government.
were they not?
secondly, i never mentioned the GDP of the colonies or england. yes, the signers were rich land owners and merchants, and they spoke eloquently for the laborers and slaves – “common men” – better than anyone had spoken for them before.
what’s your point? this is a nation of common men. hell, it’s a planet of common men.
November 22, 2011 at 4:50 pm #741127
JoBParticipantkootch…
fool me once
shame on you
fool me twice
shame on me
if the conversations i am having with die hard republicans are any indication..
the latest swing to the right has the moderates in the party noticing that funny taste in their kool-aid
funy, isn’t it.. the latest swing to the right in the democrat party has even moderates in that party noticing the same funny taste in their kool-aid
i don’t think an ad campaign will fix that
and the war card has already been pulled
November 22, 2011 at 6:56 pm #741128
BostonmanMemberI wasn’t able to focus after I read chocolate. Hows that for an ad campaign. JanS made me forget what I was going to say so I culd go to the vending machine.
December 1, 2011 at 11:53 pm #741129
kootchmanMemberredblack history”
‘the second amendment is intended to allow americans to defend ourselves from threats foreign and domestic. it was not written to enable us to overthrow our own government, or to counter-balance the police forces or national guard.”
Actual History
Declaration of Independence, In Congress 1776
“Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.”
“But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.-
Oh redblack… I think the founders knew EXACTLY what the ramifications of the second amendment were.. imagine the resources you would need to throw off the crushing weight of this oligarchy? No citizenry should be less armed than the institutions that govern them. We become subjects if that happens. Einvision …. The hordes ride in from the “red” states… with all those 440 million registered firearms,..and the hundreds and hundreds of thousands of unregistered and underground armory manufactured ones….greet then as liberators. Throw out a token politician to hang by the heels in Pioneer Square… let ten thousand blossoms flourish and grow… cordite.. the perfume of change…. ooops fantasy over… nice while it lasted.
December 2, 2011 at 12:52 am #741130
JoBParticipantkootch…
do the words national assembly ring your bell?
coming to a capital near you.. soon :)))
December 2, 2011 at 9:29 am #741131
kootchmanMemberHuzzah!
December 2, 2011 at 1:41 pm #741132
redblackParticipantwe were talking about the right to keep and bear arms, kootch, and the reasons for the second amendment. not the removal of a royal despot.
two different things.
you might also peruse some of the 200 years of constitutional law regarding the second amendment since the constitution was written.
….greet then as liberators.
dude, if the gun nuts did overthrow the federal government, i’m guessing that mandatory prayer in public places would follow in short order. bill o’reilly or some other right wing loudmouth would be made king. homosexuality would be banned, punishable by death.
no, thanks.
December 2, 2011 at 4:26 pm #741133
JoBParticipantredblack..
did kootch actually advocate armed insurrection?
quick.. someone call homeland security :)
December 2, 2011 at 4:28 pm #741134
JoBParticipantKootch…
you ought to take a peek at the credit ratings of some of those banks that aren’t afraid of occupy wall street…
there was a little slipping and sliding after the great American funds transfer…
and now republican strategists are admitting that they are concerned about Occupy Wall Street…
their message is beginning to trickle down to America…
how do you fight reason?
that’s not in the politics as a sport playbook ;->
December 3, 2011 at 2:27 pm #741135
TDeParticipantDecember 3, 2011 at 5:10 pm #741136
JoBParticipantTDe..
LOL.. because we know it’s all about talking points
We have let the republican advertising machine set the conversation for too long …
It’s time to call them on their bull.
December 6, 2011 at 9:13 am #741137
kootchmanMemberredblack… inalienable rights… those rights that cannot be compromised. They are innate. Cannot be taken away. From this document all other rights are derived. Including the constitution.
Wikipedia
Natural rights are rights not contingent upon the laws, customs, or beliefs of any particular culture or government, and therefore universal and inalienable.
Yes redblack, they supersede the constitution. Consent of the governed… it’s a great concept.
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