An SPD incident summary made public today reveals another police “operation” targeting retail theft at Westwood Village last Tuesday (June 9):
We’re following up with SPD to try to find out more.
An SPD incident summary made public today reveals another police “operation” targeting retail theft at Westwood Village last Tuesday (June 9):
We’re following up with SPD to try to find out more.
Great work by SPD! Keep it up! Now the real test will be if the judges choose to let these criminals off easy and a slap on the wrist or actually hold them accountable for their crimes. Each judge has discretion to use within a range for the crimes being prosecuted & when sentencing and/or setting consequences. Many times unfortunately it seems King County judges choose the lesser of the range & that leads to criminals knowing they hold the power to repeat crime without any true consequences once they face the judge.
Don’t forget that the prosecutor is the one that has to build the car against the suspects. It isn’t always the judge. The jury has to be 100% together also, or they walk. Now if they are juveniles, whole different story on this state. If they are juveniles, I would highly doubt it even goes to court. They will just let them go.
@derp Why are we not holding juveniles accountable? That’s the issue here. We are raising juveniles who think it’s acceptable in society to not follow the laws. What’s that lead to? Adults who think it’s acceptable to not follow laws. It’s a vicious cycle that needs to end and also should be dealt with when they are juveniles to prevent them from becoming adult life long law breakers. Yes prosecutors play a role. But from what I’ve seen it’s more often than not the judges lacking the willingness to truly hold criminals accountable leading to more crime and often repeat offenders. Many of these cases won’t go before a jury anyways but yes if they do it’s up to the jury. But often it’s the judge making the discretionary decision on punishment with the range they are given to legally work with and they often choose to go easy on the criminals even repeat offenders and dangerous felons.
Let’s temper our reactions by remembering that this operation will have cost the taxpayers many times more than the value of the recovered merchandise.
So you’re saying shoplifting shouldn’t be a crime therefore police/courts shouldn’t waste their time by arresting and prosecuting?
ColumbiaChris…Would you rather let the perps continue to shoplift thousands of dollars of merchandise from retail stores with no consequences? Giving criminals the confidence in committing crimes without consequences is a sure way of them escalating their crimes.
And at the same time, locking up criminals and charging them. I’m all for this operation.
Seriously? Temper our reactions? If someone kicked in your door causing $1000 in damage, pistol whipped you requiring $12,000 in medical and dental expenses, then stole $20,000 worth of stuff from you and your family, you’re saying that if the cost of prosecuting and incarcerating exceeds $ 33,000, we should cut our losses and let it go? This isn’t about money. This is about punishing people who violate the contract of civil society.
Agree 100%, well written Chuck Jacobs. And the juvies should have some type of consequence too otherwise next time they will try smarter! One kid (during high school lunch time) I saw stuffing chips into his backpack at QFC told me I ruined his day when I said he should be paying for the chips.
How on earth can you see a story about someone shoplifting from Target and equate it to a violent home invasion. 😭 Please get a grip.
Very shortsighted and business-based observation. What about these indiduals’ future actions? What about the need for a society made and kept safe by the rule of law? Should going after criminals and law-breaking lowlifes only pencil out financially? Whew!
And there lies some of the problem; suggesting that the value of the recovered merchandise is below the cost to implement the arrest of these criminals. It we carry that kind of thinking forward, no one will be arrested. Then what? The stores start closing or moving, cost of goods continues to reflect the cost of loss due to theft. My thought is you put these criminals on a farm in Eastern Washington and allow them to work in the fields producing food for those that are living on the street or unable to afford to put meals on their families tables. Criminals require consequences for their crime.Just thinking.
YES ! CONSEQUENCES! However, we may not want to burden farmers with criminal loser mindset. How about they paint out the Graffiti here… or pick up litter… but definitely YES to consequences in getting them to do some work to account for their impact on our society. Meanwhile.THANK YOU SPD ❤️and loss prevention.: excellent work! Now let’s see how long it takes for the judges to let them back out on the street with a little hand slap… we need to change the laws via the legislature. Or start putting some pressure on the governor to get these losers incarcerated.
It’s reasonable to identify trade offs. Should taxpayers have their property taxes increased to pay to protect large corporations bottom lines? Should we divert resources from gun violence to Westwood village?I’m all in on prosecuting shoplifting but I also understand and am willing to pay the price with higher taxes. Not sure everyone here understands this or is willing to make the sacrifice. A lot of them want the protection of government but don’t want to pay for it because #socialismbad.
So retail corporations can slash their customer service labor to bare bones, opening the door for every opportunist because there’s never anyone on the sales floor any more. For the sake of creating shareholder value, even though they are knowingly eliminating theft deterrents. And then the taxpayers help that same corporation out by spending our tax money to fund operations like this, to be the new theft detergents in lieu of the deterrents the company used to pay for. But they created shareholder value, so that’s what matters. Cool system we have here.
Whenever store like target, qfc, et al use thefts like these as excuses to close stores, lay off workers, jack up prices, remember that 20k is about 0.05% of the average big box retail’s yearly gross. It’s like someone stealing 60 bucks from the average west seattle household. Obviously it’s illegal, immoral, and wrong, but it’s not driving the companies’ business decisions, greed is.
Math – you should update your handle to reading comprehension. $2,800 in stolen merchandise was recovered in ONE SINGLE DAY/operation – this equates to over $1M annualized. Now the article doesn’t state how many stores were included in the operation, but let’s say 3 or 4. $250K in theft per store multiplied by n number of stores is not a trivial amount in the world of retail, which operates on extremely thin operating margins. That is on top of losses from items that go missing in transit, from the backroom, spoils, etc. Shrink is estimated to be 1-2% of operating revenue in the retail industry, if you care to do an honest analysis.
Don’t forget the part where the shareholders use their gains to then lobby against taxes to provide public goods!
Sounds like everyone is at fault except the actual criminals, err, I mean opportunists.
Say what? Store employees are universally told not to challenge thieves. They are not a deterrent at all. Even so called “loss prevention” staff are not a deterrent to professional thieves. Nothing deters them except arrest, incarceration, and seizure of their assets.
And they will continue to transfer operational costs onto taxpayers thanks to corporate apologists and those who don’t remember a time when retail theft prevention was squarely in their court.
Wow, K, you really don’t know anything about working for corporate retail and what we have to go through each and every day.
You live in a fantasy world. Apprehending shoplifters is not the remit of “customer service labor”. Quite the contrary, as Frog pointed out; retail associates are specifically trained not to confront shoplifters for safety and liability reasons that should be obvious. But I understand you never miss a beat to spew your anti-capitalist worldview no matter how baseless the claim.
Lock them up and throw away the key. An example needs to be set. This needs to be for all crime.
We just had two women pass us a fake $100 bill this afternoon, so they’re still at it.
Good job team!!! I appreciate your work and success. I hope they get the max sentence and hopefully it will denture others from joining in this game that costs everyone a lot.
What’s missing from this conversation is the why. Why are people committing crimes? Remember that socioeconomic inequity is widely recognized by criminologists, sociologists, and economists as a primary driver of crime. When wealth, opportunity, and resources are highly unequal, it creates environments that statistically foster higher rates of both property and violent crime. Let’s spend our efforts where it matters.
Love this so much!! Every single time I shop anywhere in Westwood Village someone is stealing right in front of me. Its disgusting that our society has allowed this for so long.Pathetic that officers have to deal with this. Businesses need to hire armed guards. Also arrest the drug dealers who sit in the back of the parking lot by the post office!
Nonsense like this is why we blow astronomical amounts of money on the cops and have nothing to show for it. Businesses can hire security guards or just eat the shrinkage, this is a waste of police time, subsidizing security for private business. But I guess harassing a certain kind of person is more entertaining for them than enforcing traffic laws or investigating real crimes.
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