i see them upclose and personal as i have one of those suction-cup feeders (highly recommend). if you are still, you will be four inches from them as they feed. me and eddie (cat avatar) watched one yesterday. imagine dining on nectar with a big cat-face watching you! now that there is a rufous in the yard, they’re all pissed off:( i haven’t offered them any ice cream yet. do they make honeysuckle ice cream?