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September 28, 2012 at 11:44 pm #772540
skeeterParticipantCan you please show me where I likened gay couples who want to marry to cocaine abusers and polygamists?
September 29, 2012 at 2:38 am #772541
hooper1961MemberInslee sued the State when a drunk fell over a bridge guardrail!
September 29, 2012 at 5:27 am #772542
dhgParticipantDisagreements over drug policy does not make one a bigot, but choosing to block gay people from the right to marry does.
September 29, 2012 at 4:16 pm #772543
birdrescuerParticipantFrom Robert Redford:
Jay’s environmental record is impeccable. His innovative ideas and leadership in Congress on clean energy, climate policy, and the protection of our natural resources have created thousands of new jobs in the clean energy industry and beyond. He literally wrote the book on how to make the shift from an economy dependent on fossil fuels to one that uses clean energy to serve as the job-creating engine of the future
I’m not the only one who’s paying attention. The League of Conservation Voters endorsed Jay, the first time they have endorsed a candidate for governor in more than three decades.
September 29, 2012 at 5:31 pm #772544
waynsterParticipantIf you want to keep this state on the right path a vote for Inslee is the right move. Our Attorney General McKenna sued the feds only to get endorsements from the right and to get the eastern side of this state to vote for him so if you break it down just think Wisconsin and walker. Teapublicans want to kick out as meany state unions and teachers unions as they can. Think right to work state and minimum wages being cut in half if Robby gets in. One might think McKenna is more center then right just look at were the money is coming from he didn’t sue to get rid of obamacare/affordable healthcare act for nothing. On education just look and see what the GOP has tried to do in this state he endorsed every move they have made to cut higher learning and public education……Taxes sure cut on big business.. tax on the middle class we will pay more look at his voting record for king co… womens rights sure he believes in it and gay rights sure he doe’s… in a pigs eye he indorses the GOP platform national and state on those issues….. he is a wolf in sheeps clothing people…..might as well vote for Mitt to he won’t come out and say it he is afraid that the moderates won’t vote for him if he doe’s…..guess what he is voting for him……
September 29, 2012 at 5:39 pm #772545
dhgParticipantWaynester, perhaps I’m missing the joke but I think you meant to say he is a wolf in sheeps clothing. It is outrageous that he would join a lawsuit challenging the Affordable Care Act as representing the State of Washington when the governor and legislative body supported the ACA.
September 29, 2012 at 5:46 pm #772546
waynsterParticipantyea I seen that lmao….it is true he is a wolf in sheeps clothing….
September 29, 2012 at 6:14 pm #772547
redblackParticipantc@lbob:
i want to take a side road, down secretary of state lane.
i think wyman’s opponent, kathleen drew, has a more compelling argument, and that it trumps wyman’s experience in thurston county:
As Secretary of State, I will increase dropbox locations, push for same-day voter registration, and oppose efforts to suppress voting. I’ll also streamline registration services for corporations, charities and non-profits.
I strongly oppose the Citizens United decision and support repeal. I’ll work to increase transparency in the initiative process.
the emphasis is hers, not mine.
http://www.sos.wa.gov/elections/default.aspx
(gotta hunt through some java apps to get to the races and candidates’ statements. i don’t think i can link to it directly.)
September 29, 2012 at 7:39 pm #772548
c@lbobMemberredblack,
It seems to me that Kathleen Drew exhibits quite a partisan view of what the Secretary Of State position is, that I think is caustic; whether from Rs or Ds.
If you read between the lines, what she is really in favor of is a return to polling places. In a vote by mail state, same day registrations is going to vastly increase the number of people showing up and voting at elections offices and accessible voting centers on Election Day. That may mean that more people will be forced to use electronic voting machines, which has a big opponent in WA in the form of the Black Box Voting website.
I think Washington citizens should allow settled matters to stay settled. More than seventy percent of state voters voted by mail before the polling places were dropped. That is a practical reality that should not be tampered with until a statewide vote indicates that 50% +1 want a return to the polls.
Asking new voters to register eight days before an election is not a serious impediment to voting, IMO. It is also an indication that the person is a real participant in the community. If one waits to register that late in the game, I have to wonder about the care they have taken deciding how to vote.
This says nothing of the additional costs of same day and another Drew proposal, more ballot drop box locations. Both proposals add cost to administering elections, costs that the counties have worked hard at arriving at a balance between convenience and practicality.
Drew also seems to misunderstand what the SOS role in elections is, which I see as administrating improving and maintaining the statewide voter registration data base; auditing elections and county procedures; and working with the legislature to develop laws that benefit all of the state’s citizenry.
Kim Wyman will likely continue to follow in the footsteps of her mentors, the retiring SOS, Sam Reed. He has done a commendable job improving the capability of the SOS functions and controlling costs; also, he hasn’t allowed his membership in the Republican party to influence the way he carries out his job. This is unlike SOSs in Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida, for instance.
I would expect that Kim Wyman will approach her duties in the same manner that Sam Reed has.
September 29, 2012 at 8:50 pm #772549
waynsterParticipantSam Reed was all republican when the teapublicans started complaining about election fraud and such in other states he jumped in like a good goper does. Wyman will do the same thing purge voter rolls just like her gop counter parts have done and are trying to do based peer pressure….and Mckenna backs the same platform……dont get me wrong the democrats do it to. My take is the one that separates them selfs from the party the farthest will get my vote and so far neither……in fact it needs to be a nonpartisan race and neither party involved
September 29, 2012 at 9:24 pm #772550
c@lbobMemberI remember Sam Reed taking a lot of heat from Rs when he sided with King County in the suit over the Governors election in 2004. He has been very even handed in his administration of elections in WA. He and Gregoire took part in an elections reform study that made several recommendations that have largely been incorporated into law now. They have imporved Washington elections standards for the better, IMO.
In Washington, the purging of voter roles charge is a non-starter. You can be taken off the roles if you die, you get locked up for a felony, by court order or missing two federal elections while inactive.
That’s it.
September 30, 2012 at 3:19 am #772551
kootchmanMemberAll states with the exception of Vermont address balanced budgets either by statute or their constitution, so that’s really not a partisan issue on a state level. Oh?
http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2012/06/pers_unfunded_liability_of_pen.html
Study: $3.9 trillion in unfunded pension liabilities
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1692134075001/study-39-trillion-in-unfunded-pension-liabilities/
CA Holds One-Fourth of Nations $2.2 Trillion in Unfunded Pension Liabilities
Not being able to meet future pension and bond debt service is not a balanced budget….. not in the real world.
September 30, 2012 at 1:27 pm #772552
JoBParticipantkootch..
you talk out of both sides of your mouth on this one.
you freely admit that the problem with the public pension systems was their investment in financial systems gone bad
yet your solution is to defund pensions
and reward the financial systems gone bad….
give it a rest..
some of actually beleive that finding a way to keep the contracts our government made with it’s citizens is more important than handing another bonus to big business.
Increasingly jobless rates is not the answer to fiscal responsibility for states dependent upon workers for their income.
September 30, 2012 at 1:31 pm #772553
JoBParticipantOn the question of the governor’s race…
I know that Inslee doesn’t have the charisma or political cache some of you are looking for
but if you read what he has written you quickly realize that he has a firm grasp of the basic issues that will be our largest challenge in coming years
climate change is inevitable
how we intervene to minimize it’s impact will make the difference between a race for survival or thriving.
i vote for thriving and i don’t see McKenna’s focus on the national political scene creating that.
September 30, 2012 at 1:39 pm #772554
miwsParticipantSeptember 30, 2012 at 1:42 pm #772555
miwsParticipantSeptember 30, 2012 at 1:57 pm #772556
JoBParticipantSeptember 30, 2012 at 2:40 pm #772557
redblackParticipantc@lbob: thanks for the perspective and an incentive to dig a little further than the voters’ pamphlet.
jo: i watched the governor’s debate last night. it was a little painful, because inslee came off as slow-witted. mckenna is a smart guy and a polished speaker, but i think he has a knife in the hand that’s behind his back.
waynster is right: from what i’ve seen so far, mckenna is going to try to put washington in the ranks of the red states at the expense of state government.
September 30, 2012 at 2:49 pm #772558
JoBParticipantredblack..
political talking points have never been Inslee’s strong point…
but engage him in conversation about the same points he stumbled over in the context of a publicized political debate and you would discover an entirely different man.
it’s too bad that soundbites create the perception upon which his candidacy is judged.
September 30, 2012 at 3:18 pm #772559
miwsParticipantSeptember 30, 2012 at 5:24 pm #772560
elikapekaParticipantKootchman, as usual you are so bent on getting your own point out that you’re not addressing the original comment.
Balancing a budget at the state level is not an issue in and of itself because you have to do it, no matter which party. The difference comes in how you get there.
I’m not disagreeing that there are budget issues with state employee benefits, and in some cases there are abuses and areas where changes need to be negotiated. But I vehemently disagree that you balance the budget on the backs of the state workers. There are other ways to get there, and the ALEC model embraced by the Republican party is not one I wish to see implemented here. So I’ll vote for Inslee.
September 30, 2012 at 9:50 pm #772561
c@lbobMemberFunny, Kootchman was trying to peddle much the same line on a different thread, where I answered with this:
—- begin of c@lbob post in thread “Ramblings”
From the PERS June 2012 quarterly report:
“Performance for all annualized time periods are positive. The PERS Comingled Trust Fund outperformed the passive benchmark all time periods. It is exceeding the actuarial return of 8% for the 3 year time period and since inception.” The Comingled Trust Fund was established in 1981.
Washington’s retirement system is one of the top four in the nation, along with New York, North Carolina and Wisconsin.
The only real problem with the Washington fund is that it is directly controlled by the legislature, who look upon it as a piggy bank to make up for the freeloaders among the citizentry who insist that they can’t be taxed to pay for public services and infrastructure.
Leeches are consistantly attempting to drain PERS.
Just as with Social Security. Private retirement systems, too.
Throw out the Paul Ryans of the world, and retirement looks rosier for me, and that’s how I’ll vote.
end of post from other thread
Did he make a mistake? Forgive me if I don’t think so. You see, the lies in the links he provides above, don’t stand up in the state we are dicusssing here, that being the State of Washington.
Always the cherry picker, he seems to shy away from relevancy. Reality isn’t the sandwich he ordered.
October 1, 2012 at 12:45 am #772562
DBPMemberI like Jay Inslee ‘cuz he voted against the Iraq war and has voted against at least some military appropriations bills. He’s also got a decent record on the environment.
Here’s a good Web site for checking out how a candidate has voted in Congress as compared with the rest of his party. Generally, the more often a candidate votes independently, the more likely is to be able to think independently.
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/I000026/key-votes/page1/
Unfortunately, Inslee’s speaking style and persona kind of remind me of . . . oh no! . . . George W. Bush. Like Bush, Inslee’s not very good with details. He doesn’t seem as able to produce concrete examples of his accomplishments, either, or to relate his record to issues that are important to Washingtonians.
McKenna is the abler politician, and he’s not exactly a flaming conservative, so he might just edge Inslee out in this normally blue state. If Inslee wins big, that’ll be largely because of party-line voting or generalized loathing of Republicans.
And if he wins by just one vote, that vote will have been mine.
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Like I said, McKenna’s not all that scary, but I think he did the wrong thing on ACA/Obamacare and I suspect that he’s going to pay for that in the polls. In suing over the fee provision, McKenna claims to have been looking out for Washingtonians. But I’m a Washingtonian, and I certainly did not feel looked out for.
As it happens, I agreed with McKenna that forcing people to pay money to private insurers is wrong. Letting poor people continue to go without insurance is even MORE wrong, though. Unfortunately, Rob McKenna does not seem to get that. What was his alternative health care plan if Obamacare had been overturned? He didn’t have one, of course; as Attorney General, that wasn’t his concern.
If McKenna loses (and I really hope he does) that lawsuit is gonna be one of the main reasons.
October 2, 2012 at 10:40 pm #772563
NFiorentiniMemberThe 3rd gubernatorial debate is tonight on KCTS 9.
Hopefully I’ll learn why is it that McKenna’s hair, presumably natural, looks like he’s wearing a really bad toupee.
King 5 poll showing Inslee has a slight edge…
October 2, 2012 at 11:05 pm #772564
DBPMemberI have compromising pictures of McKenna, but I’m an honorable person, so I’m not going to release them to the press unless it looks like he might win.
Of course I have no secrets from my Blog pals. And if Rob wants to hang out with me, then he’s just gonna have to be cool with that.
http://tinyurl.com/me-n-rob-m-las-palmas-2011
(NF, this one’s for you.)
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