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October 5, 2015 at 9:31 pm #818585
FreeRangeAuthorParticipantFor nearly all candidates on the Nov ballot, I will be marking Other, writing in NOTA (None Of The Above).
When my choices are big government progressive A or B (the candidate will ALWAYS vote to increase government intrusion and expansion into my life), my only way to express my objection is to vote NOTA.
I invite all Republican/conservative voters to mark their ballots NOTA against big government progressives. There have been approx. 25 to 30% Republican votes in the 34th District.
It might be newsworthy when those votes disappear into a NOTA vote when there is no hope of anything remotely conservative on the ballot.
The only office where I will vote for a candidate is Port of Seattle – for Goodspaceguy, who has at least SOME libertarian, reduced government values.
I’m done with voting for the lesser of 2 evils which still gets me bad representation.
October 6, 2015 at 1:58 am #828301
berthaParticipantDo NOT do that. If you write NOTA on the write in line that means your ballot will require special handling raising the cost of processing your ballot almost $1. Find another way to register your protest.
October 6, 2015 at 3:25 am #828302
maplesyrupParticipantWhile I don’t agree with FRA’s reasoning, it’s his right to vote that way, extra cost or not. I wouldn’t want someone telling me not to write in a candidate just because of the extra $1.
October 6, 2015 at 3:57 am #828303
berthaParticipantMaplesyrup – He isn’t writing in a candidate. Every election my tax dollars are wasted when people write in Mickey Mouse, none of the above, etc. KC elections spends dollars on public service announcements asking voters not to write frivolous things on the write-in line. It’s a waste of time and money. Also, no one but temporary election workers even see the NOTA votes,so much for making a statement and for reducing government.
October 6, 2015 at 5:26 am #828304
KBearParticipantWith Republicans working so hard to disenfranchise voters around the country, it’s really hard for me to feel sorry for conservative voters in Seattle who think their votes don’t count.
October 6, 2015 at 7:12 am #828305
singularnameParticipantThat’s hysterical. Telling someone not to vote his/her conscious because of a “handling fee.”
October 6, 2015 at 1:27 pm #828306
berthaParticipantsingularname – This is not about voting your conscience because writing in NOTA is effectively not voting, wasting dollars and time. A ballot is a legal document whereby you are voting for candidates. Anything you put on the write-in line is a vote for a candidate and since there is no candidate NOTA you have voted for nothing. Thousands of dollars are spent every year processing ballots that effectively have no votes on them.
He won’t make the news with this plan either. I worked in Elections and I’ve seen lots of ballots with NOTA on them and so far no breaking news stories – just wasted tax dollars.
October 6, 2015 at 5:43 pm #828307
JanSParticipantI am ASSuming here, the OP means the District 1 election this November? So…curious if Free Range Author voted in the primary for his candidate of choice(and, if not why not?)….there were 9 people to choose from. If none of those candidates suited his preferences, why is that? Anyone could file and run…so maybe no one meeting his criteria stepped up?
October 7, 2015 at 5:37 am #828308
JKBParticipantWe had a similar thread the last election, in which a person under 35 was on the Presidential ballot. With a would-be VP born in Colombia.
Personally, I’d rather see a voter articulating his own opinion by voting No.
October 7, 2015 at 10:24 pm #828309
anonymeParticipantI think NOTA would be an interesting option for data gathering, but don’t think it’s worth the cost just for stats.
However, I WILL be writing in Chas Redmond for the District 1 position, as I think his post-election actions prove even further that he’s a class act. I’ve never written in a candidate before, but I’m tired of having to choose not between the best candidates for the job, but the ones with the most aggressive campaigns.
October 10, 2015 at 6:47 am #828310
captainDaveParticipantI bet there were a few conservative minded people who voted “NOTA” during the heyday of Detroit after voting control was shifted to the left by union laborers and government employees. Like Detroit, Seattle has probably lost too much of its fiscally conservative voters. There are fewer people in Seattle today that have reason to understand the long term consequences of overspending and over-regulating because they are too insulated from the direct effects–due to entitlements or employment by government and large corporate monopolies. Seattle is set to progress down the same road that made Detroit fall from it’s position as the premier city in the world to the cesspool it is today. Voting NOTA is a good idea only to satisfy future post mortem curiosity to know how many people opposed the inevitable destruction of this city.
There does not seem to be much interest by any political candidate to curb run-away stupidity because the vast majority of progressive voters want to live the fantasy of unsustainable economics just a little bit longer. C’est la vie
October 10, 2015 at 1:43 pm #828311
redblackParticipantif this city was truly run by liberals, we’d have world-class mass transit, a better school system, a modernized utilities infrastructure, and a solid, progressive funding base.
as it is, we have a lot of money being made and low unemployment; but the working poor are still struggling, and very few of our tax dollars go their way.
the rising tide should be lifting all of our boats, but it isn’t. corporate profits are soaring, and our infrastructure is crumbling.
so how is that the fault of the roughly 10% of the workforce that is unionized, captain dave?
October 10, 2015 at 11:19 pm #828312
maplesyrupParticipantSorry bertha but I don’t think you should be telling anyone how to vote, even if it costs the city, what, $25,000?
$1 per vote you don’t like X how many votes?
October 11, 2015 at 1:33 am #828313
berthaParticipantmaplesyrup – I’m not telling anyone who to vote for, you can vote for any candidate you choose including a write-in, I don’t really care. My point is why cost us money when you aren’t putting in a vote for a candidate. You just as well scribble all over the ballot with a crayon, it means the same thing.
And if the County (not the City) has to spend an extra $100,000 to process meaningless ballots that money is going to be taken from other services like libraries, parks, public health, etc.
By all means vote for the candidate of your choice but don’t waste money by writing in meaningless stuff on your ballot.
October 11, 2015 at 2:22 am #828314
JKBParticipantI’m no more a fan of wasting money than anyone else. So here’s the problem: How does a voter express disapproval?
One can abstain, joining the crowd who were too lazy or uninformed to bother voting. But when the voter has thought about all the candidates and cannot support any of them, the NOTA vote expresses something very different from just throwing a ballot in the trash.
October 11, 2015 at 3:50 am #828315
JoBParticipantJKB
what exactly does voting NOTA express if it is never tabulated?
and in the case of candidates selected in a run off election how can it express anything more than sour grapes that the run off didn’t go your way?
October 11, 2015 at 4:29 am #828316
captainDaveParticipantRedblack: John F. Kennedy one said “ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country”. Seattle’s progressive politicians essentially say “ask not what you can do for your city, ask what the city can promise to give you”. Off course, it’s just a ploy to capture voters who want what others have without comprehending the consequences. Seattle bureaucrats can never sequester enough wealth to do the things they promise.
Cities that do well with developing good mass transit systems, quality education and modern utilities have a healthy balance between conservative (fiscally responsible) and liberal thinking. These world class cities also have environments that foster economic diversity at all levels so that entitlement programs are less needed.
Name one conservative political figure or policy maker in Seattle Government, or any recent past or present candidate for that matter. It’s pretty difficult isn’t it? Sustainable cities have both “left” and “right” leadership for which Seattle is run almost entirely by leftists- just like old Detroit.
The current financial success of Amazon is masking the precarious lack of economic diversity that will likely result in the demise of this city in the same way it happened in Detroit. It is far less likely that future high performance companies can start up in Seattle under the iron-fisted anti-business policies established by progressives. Unless leaders change corse and stop working to destroy the incentives for entrepreneurial activity, Seattle could become a wasteland.
Go ahead and write me in if you want. I will work to cut entitlements while eliminating barriers for people to start businesses eager to employ everyone, not just internet programmers.
As for your taxing the corporations, it’s like shooting yourself in the foot since they pass on the higher costs to consumers. There is plenty of empirical evidence to show no matter how much the government taxes people, the percentage of taxes to GDP has always resulted in about 19% since the 1940’s. The economy always shrinks when taxes and restrictions are increased.
JTB: If NOTA won, then the city might be obligated to open the door for conservative candidates. Currently, conservative candidates are not very welcome in the Seattle political system.
October 11, 2015 at 4:46 am #828317
JKBParticipantTown motto of Dufur, a small place in Oregon:
“Ask not what Dufur can do for you, ask what you can do for Dufur”
October 11, 2015 at 4:47 am #828318
berthaParticipantJKB – I understand what you are saying but no one in any power sees those votes. You just as well write NOTA on a piece of paper and throw it in the garbage at home for all the good it will do.
October 11, 2015 at 8:05 am #828319
maplesyrupParticipantbertha your first post says “Do NOT do that.” If you’re not telling people how to vote then you may want to select different verbiage.
Even if it is $100k (does anyone know the real number, btw?), it’s still worth it to let people vote the way they want. Sure those votes will most probably be meaningless but you never know if a rare event would come along in which they’re not.
October 11, 2015 at 3:48 pm #828320
JoBParticipantWhy do you do that? is maybe a better question.
if those votes were actually tallied it would be a different thing
October 11, 2015 at 10:17 pm #828321
HaroldMemberWell, Paul Schell was a Republican and a developer and was elected Mayor so that is one non liberal-Democrat. To the original point a NOTA vote would end up helping Lisa Herbold from the Kshama Sawant wing of the brick throwing anarchists. Better to cast your vote for Shannon Braddock, who although still “Progressive” seems to have a rational head on her shoulders. Sawant and her like could actually end up with a majority on the council if conservatives pout and sit out this election.
October 11, 2015 at 11:58 pm #828322
JanSParticipantHarold…you really do have a slanted view of Kshama Sawant. She has nothing to do with the anarchist types/thugs/etc. who always seem to interrupt peaceful demonstrations. If you have proof otherwise,please post the links here, back up what you claim. Otherwise, it’s just your opinion….and a wrong one, at that.
Tired of innuendos that are stated as fact, then get spread around. Integrity, my friend, integrity…it’s important.
October 12, 2015 at 3:02 am #828323
JKBParticipantInnuendo, hmmm. Because it sure sounds like you’re suggesting Harold lacks integrity, without having said it so many words.
October 12, 2015 at 5:02 am #828324
JoBParticipantJKB.. what she said was that without proof Harold’s post lacked integrity.
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