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April 8, 2008 at 5:44 pm #586712
charlabobParticipantI took these tests and I wasn’t very pleased with myself. It does say something about what any candidate who’s not a white man will face:
The Harvard test — specific to political candidates:
April 8, 2008 at 8:07 pm #621739
beachdrivegirlParticipantThat was a very interesting test! I was quite disappointed with my results as well…
April 8, 2008 at 9:07 pm #621740
TrickParticipantApril 8, 2008 at 9:09 pm #621741
AnonymousInactiveAm I reading this right, I took longer to holster with black guys, but I shot white guys faster? And apparently i don’t decide any of it very fast.
Game Over
Your Score: 565
Average reaction time:
Black Armed:745ms
Black Unarmed:843.44ms
White Armed:723.28ms
White Unarmed:768.48ms
The story was interesting though, about gender biases.
April 8, 2008 at 9:22 pm #621742
TrickParticipant2nd time so I could get the rest of the stats.
Your Score: 550
Average reaction time:
Black Armed:679.76ms
Black Unarmed:777.68ms
White Armed:661.08ms
White Unarmed:775.52ms
April 10, 2008 at 4:14 am #621743
JoBParticipantGame Over
Your Score: 600
Average reaction time:
Black Armed:734.92ms
Black Unarmed:848.2ms
White Armed:735.92ms
White Unarmed:786.88ms
Now that’s interesting… i had little trouble identifying a gun. tho i did get shot once and penalized once for being too slow.. and both of those were for black guys…
but i apparently had real trouble identifying what was in the hands of those who weren’t carrying guns and it took me longer to be sure for black guys than for white…
i would have sworn that wouldn’t happen.
and like JT, i am just plain too slow. i kept losing points for both white and black guys because i couldn’t identify what they were holding…
i think it’s a good thing i am not in police work.
as for the political test… i really liked Hillary.. and i really didn’t much like Obama or McCain… but i like Obama better than McCain:)
no surprises there:)
April 10, 2008 at 6:55 am #621744
charlabobParticipantJoB, I’m happy to see you’ve finally admitted that you don’t much like Obama. :-)
On the other side, I was somewhat surprised to see that Obama was top, Clinton wasn’t far behind — and McCain was off the chart in the other direction.
I expect that many Clintonistas, if they’re as honest as you, would put Obama and McCain closer together, with Obama slightly ahead.
April 10, 2008 at 3:19 pm #621745
JoBParticipantcharla…
i don’t know what substance is altering your reality…
but you are made some pretty mean comments in both threads last night.
in the go Hillary thread you make erroneous assumptions about a young woman you know nothing about.
And here you try the Clinton supporters all hate Obama gambit… tarring us with what brush?
Get a grip.
Clinton supporters have not been on the attack in this forum… or have you not noticed that it seems impossible for you to support your candidate in any way without attacking Clinton?
Or by proxy.. those who support her.
You just couldn’t resist another attack in this thread too.. could you?
I don’t like the dishonesty of Obama’s campaign… i don’t like the carefully engineered division in the party it has created…
and i am sick to death of hearing how anything and everything is Clinton’s fault.
Nope.. I don’t think much of your candidate right now… and that shouldn’t come as any surprise to anyone.
And you are as responsible for my personal dislike of Obama as anyone.
in fact, those who support Obama by continually grinding on Hillary and putting down those who support her might just be responsible for the general lack of enthusiasm from Clinton supporters for Senator Obama.
Nobody likes a bully.. and you have made Obama’s a campaign of bullies… under the careful direction of his campaign manager.
Oh.. i forgot. it’s all Clinton’s fault.
It’s Clinton’s fault that Obama’s representative at the local caucus couldn’t make a 5 minute speech supporting his candidate without making repeated slurs on Clinton and getting himself booed.
and it’s Clinton’s fault that the Clinton supporters boos were the only ones mentioned.
Were you ashamed of your quick publication of the Clinton bullies who couldn’t let the poor Obama delegate speak for his candidate without booing him when you encountered the truth Charla?
Or is this truly personal and you just couldn’t let my saying that the caucus showed the unity of democrats stand unchallenged?
anything to make a point… Let’s not let actual facts get in the way of a good argument…innuendo is so much more useful … let’s not bother with simple things like courtesy or respect for another person’s opinion.
and this is what you are calling a high road campaign… the path to inclusion.. the path to changing the face of government…
It just seems like one more bully to me…
April 10, 2008 at 3:25 pm #621746
beachdrivegirlParticipantObama’s campaign has taken the higher, more honest, road in this election. Clinton has not said one lie, but numerous lies. These lies and her constant reference to wanting to change the rules (that she agreed to) have helped me to reaffirm my decision for Obama ’08. Clinton has never proven to me that she is or is willing to take the high road. The silliness of her lies and rule changing attitude is what has cuased the division of the parties.
And I do have to say that I was actually surprise Charla, because although Obama was the highest on my little chart, Clinton was not far behind, and basically McCain had no leg to stand on.
April 10, 2008 at 3:36 pm #621747
JoBParticipantSo beachdrivegirl…
you think that running an anti-Hillary campaign.. not a pro-Obama campaign is the high road?
because that is the campaign you have personally promoted on this site.. the campaign you are promoting now.
Can you explain to me what is high road about a lack of respect for your opponent or her supporters?
April 10, 2008 at 3:37 pm #621748
charlabobParticipantHey, BDG, I was actually trying to say that I was surprised about the exact same thing — in my case, I suspect I’m still able to separate my contempt for many elements of Clinton’s campaign from my basic respect for (or hope for?) her.
It’s getting harder and harder .. but hope still springs.
April 10, 2008 at 3:46 pm #621749
JoBParticipantBTW…
it just struck me…
this is what i said..
and i really didn’t much like Obama or McCain… but i like Obama better than McCain:)”
This is what you decided i said.
“I expect that many Clintonistas, if they’re as honest as you, would put Obama and McCain closer together, with Obama slightly ahead.”
I said i liked Obama better than McCain..
you decided you interpret that to mean that i only like Obama slightly better than McCain?
What on earth made you decide that Charla?
Was it those glowing remarks i made about McCain?
Nope … couldn’t have been that.. I haven’t had a positive thing to say about McCain..
where i have actually been known to say and link to things that are positive about Obama.
More innuendo… more polarizing rhetoric… and aimed at me..
not nice.
April 10, 2008 at 3:49 pm #621750
charlabobParticipantGee, the Repugs may discover the race and gender card — all in one dubious character.
http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Top_News/2008/04/10/poll_mccain-rice_ticket_wins_in_new_york/3061/
April 10, 2008 at 3:58 pm #621751
beachdrivegirlParticipantI dont think we are tyring to run an anti-Hillary campaign. Personally, I just am trying to understand how someone this dishonest has made it this far and trying to understand how to overlook some of those things if she is on the ballott come November…When I have posted these things I have been tring to ask those questions on how to support a canidate that is dishonest? Hillary has shown a lack of respect as well. I dont particular feel that Hillary supporters are open to why Obama supporters dont care for her. And I find it agitating when you continually try to overlook the reasons why I list out not caring for her.
My dislike for Hillary came after the Caucus and half the reason why I went to the Caucus was to learn about each canidate although at that time I perferred Obama. At that time, I had assumed Clinton would win although I did not think she was the better choice. However, after leaving the Caucus I was more confident in Obama and less confident in Clinton.
Unfortunatly things that you may feel I am using to attack her are things that are happening during this primary election and they are major concerns of mine. She has decided that rules shouldnt apply to her. Hillary has lied. I don’t care for individuals with those traits in real life so it does not surprise me I dont care for those individuals running in the election. Yes, those two factors are just as important to me as the issues when it comes to electing a candidate.(Maybe more so.)
Another concern with Clinton as canidate is that her lack of support in the Caucus proves that she had assumed she did have to work as hard to get people to put her on the ballott in 08. She should not have assumed there would not be competition.
I think what Charla was trying to say (correct me if I am wrong Charla) is that on her little chart Clinton was literally milimeters behind Obama which showed that if for some reason Obama was not on the ballott in November she could find a way to vote for Clinton b/c she does not have as large of a dislike for her as she thought she did/does.
April 10, 2008 at 4:21 pm #621752
charlabobParticipantBingo, BDG — except I won’t have any problem working for and voting for Clinton — I’ll just have to watch her a bit more closely after she’s elected. :-)
April 10, 2008 at 6:13 pm #621753
JoBParticipantbeachdrivegirl…
“I dont think we are tyring to run an anti-Hillary campaign. Personally, I just am trying to understand how someone this dishonest has made it this far”
LOL.. you’re not trying to run and anti-Hillary campaign…
that was just the opening sentence in yet one more anti-Hillary post full of innuendos, half truths and negative labeling.
So really.. what do you think a negative campaign against your opponent looks like?
And Charla.. you state that you respect Hillary supporters and Hillary herself… so we should believe you….
while your words actively and routinely show a complete lack of respect.. for her supporters and for Hillary.
i won’t go back to pull one of your more colorful phrases showing “respect” for Hillary.. it isn’t worth the time invested.
I’d really encourage you both to stop patting yourselves on the back for your fair mindedness and go read the Vanity Fair article.
It’s actually a good article cited on pro-Obama blogs…
If you get to know your candidate… you might have something to talk about besides how much you hate Hillary… with just cause of course:)
April 10, 2008 at 6:42 pm #621754
charlabobParticipantHere is a link to the Vanity Fair article, referenced several times on this thread without a direct link. (I believe it was reference with a link in another thread):
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/03/obama200803
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