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June 6, 2013 at 11:29 pm #789982
JanSParticipantyou do realize that is was Bush’s policy that allowed this. Or don’t you care as long as you can scream “Obama did it!” It gets tiresome, Rich.
And don’t even go to Benghazi…it’s a damned broken record. Many of us are sick and tired with these old stories brought up time and time again by you, McCain, et. al.
And, frankly, the IRS was just doing it’s job, as distasteful as you find it. If they had been going after liberal groups, you’d be cheering…oh, wait…they did…
http://www.salon.com/2013/05/14/when_the_irs_targeted_liberals/
http://www.salon.com/2013/05/14/when_the_irs_targeted_liberals/
June 6, 2013 at 11:36 pm #789983
SmittyParticipantJan, there is no way you could miss it. Every reporter started their newscast this morning with the line “a program started under the Bush administration……” These guys are in the hip pocket of Obama and it is completely transparent. Hell, the foreign press has had to break the last four stories!
What they won’t tell you is that while technically started under Bush it was expanded under Obama. Think Fast & Furious where they attempted the same trick.
Started under….
Appointed by……
Who cares? The messiah was supposed to fix all this!
June 6, 2013 at 11:42 pm #789984
waynsterParticipantSmitty look who thinks this is a good idea yes even the conservatives and some liberals in both house and senate agree its the right thing to do….no laws broken….
June 6, 2013 at 11:49 pm #789985
JanSParticipantSmitty…there’s that “Obama did it” thing again. Bush didn’t do much of anything, according to you guys. What a load of crap, to put it nicely. You spin, spin, spin…soooo tiresome.
Oh, and Rich? I certainly hope that you don’t believe that the gov’t. is actually listening to what was said in those calls. It’s all about the metadata…
June 6, 2013 at 11:49 pm #789986
JanSParticipantand, Smitty? You guys called him the “Messiah”. We didn’t. We know better…
June 7, 2013 at 12:03 am #789987
JoBParticipantwho says liberals aren’t incensed?
The only traffic i see on social media that doesn’t do the big nananana broken record chant comes from liberal sources.
anyone who thinks we aren’t concerned is too busy playing the politics as a national sport game to notice.
June 7, 2013 at 1:35 am #789988
SmittyParticipantI am not commenting on the policy itself, but the constant, incessant drumbeat of:
“It started under Bush”
“She was appointed by Bush”
That the media consistently use to soften the latest and greatest scandal. They LOVE him and will do anything to protect him, that’s all. It is confirmed by the fact that the foreign press are the ones who keep breaking these stories.
June 7, 2013 at 1:40 am #789989
JoBParticipantsmitty.. so you don’t remember the
it started with Clinton
they were appointed by Clinton
etc
drumbeat while Bush was in office?
come now.
June 7, 2013 at 1:51 am #789990
HMC RichParticipantGoodbye Freedom, Hello Mom. The Bill of Rights just disappeared, There it is, Whoops its gone!
Scatterbrain,circa 1990.
If you think everything is just peachy, then by all means go ahead and think that. But, one day in the future you may agree with me. If that is the case, it may be too late.
We WILL see if I am right or wrong.
June 7, 2013 at 2:03 am #789991
JanSParticipanteverything is not peachy, just because we disagree with your right wing misinformation. Where did you get that from ? You have a magic hat you pull it out of?
June 7, 2013 at 2:05 am #789992
SmittyParticipant“smitty.. so you don’t remember the
it started with Clinton
they were appointed by Clinton
etc
drumbeat while Bush was in office?
come now.
Not by the Press, no.
June 7, 2013 at 2:07 am #789993
JanSParticipantSmitty, if someone was appointed or something done in Mr. Bush’s presidency, then it’s a damned fact. You can’t pretend it didn’t happen, and the Repubs have to own it and take responsibility for it, pure and simple. For the same reason we’re tired of Obama bashing.
June 7, 2013 at 2:07 am #789994
SmittyParticipant“You have a magic hat you pull it out of?”
No. I watch the news and read a lot. I dont just limit my intake to MSNBC and NPR and call myself udumacated neither! ;~)
I do like the idea of a magic hat though!
June 7, 2013 at 2:25 am #789995
JanSParticipantI, too, do not listen to NPR, and msnbc on a very, very limited basis. I read, I look things up, I try to be fair, but, wrong is wrong…like spending 50 mil on 37 votes in the house to repeal Obamacare, and no jobs anywhere. You do not have a corner on education, no matter what you think. :)
June 7, 2013 at 2:58 am #789996
JoBParticipantsmitty..
i am guessing you don’t hear what you aren’t listening for..
remember the oh so liberal press who let Bush stand on the deck of an aircraft carrier proclaiming the end of the Iraq war?
probably not..
because you weren’t listening for the lie…
don’t get all offended..
we all pay more attention to what we are told to listen for..
even die hard old real liberals like me
June 7, 2013 at 3:13 am #789997
villagegreenMemberthere’s nothing worse than metalheads with no sense of irony. or maybe you are joking. in that case you are a genius.
June 7, 2013 at 3:36 am #789998
SmittyParticipant“remember the oh so liberal press who let Bush stand on the deck of an aircraft carrier proclaiming the end of the Iraq war?”
Oh no, they LET him? How so?
That’s actually a perfect example of media bias. The sign was in reference to the carrier and the mission they were on, not a reference to the entire war. But alas, because of the media it is set in stone. Kind of like Palin seeing Russia from her house. She never said it, but SNL did. Nevertheless, because of the liberal media it is now conventional wisdom.
Hey, you succeeded in changing the subject, at least….
June 7, 2013 at 4:49 am #789999
JanSParticipantyou really believe it wasn’t about the Iraq War? Seriously?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_Mission_Accomplished_speech
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/press-past/2013/05/01/the-other-symbol-of-george-w-bushs-legacy
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2003/05/02/bush-says-major-combat-in-iraq-over/
they’re all wrong, and you’re right? My, my…
June 7, 2013 at 1:45 pm #790000
SmittyParticipantJan. straight from your wiki link”
“Navy Commander and Pentagon spokesman Conrad Chun said the banner referred specifically to the aircraft carrier’s 10-month deployment (which was the longest deployment of a carrier since the Vietnam War) and not the war itself, saying “It truly did signify a mission accomplished for the crew.”
“Bush’s speech noted:
“We have difficult work to do in Iraq. We are bringing order to parts of that country that remain dangerous.”[10]
“Our mission continues…The War on Terror continues, yet it is not endless. We do not know the day of final victory, but we have seen the turning of the tide.”
Obamas lapdog media would have been trotting out these facts one day after any conservative dared to use the photo op against him had the roles been reversed.
June 7, 2013 at 1:57 pm #790001
TanDLParticipantAnd when terrorists strike anywhere in the world killing American citizens, you’ll probably rant that Obama didn’t do enough to protect us.
“If one morning I walked on top of the water across the Potomac River, the headline that afternoon would read: ‘President Can’t Swim.'” – Lyndon B. Johnson
June 7, 2013 at 3:16 pm #790002
JoBParticipantJune 7, 2013 at 3:45 pm #790003
wakefloodParticipantExxxxxactly!
I just keep coming back to a simple and obvious.
Obama (with the choosing of Holder, Geithner, et al), clearly signaled to those in power across the X-Industrial Complexes currently holding the Republic by the balls, that he wasn’t going to rock their worlds. And he hasn’t.
He’s tweaked some things around the edges for positioning and to take some of the ferver out of his progressive base – most notably with ACA – which, as we’ve stated numerous times, was a Conservative design.
Mostly, he’s changed the tone but rarely the substance of 8 yrs. of Bushdom.
And yet those same IC’s and their mouthpieces wail incessantly as if he was the activated Manchurian Candidate. Puhleeze.
June 7, 2013 at 4:32 pm #790004
JoBParticipantExxxxxactly!
June 7, 2013 at 6:01 pm #790005
SmittyParticipantNot sure if these last few posts are directed at me or not, but if they are I never said I was against the policy.
My rant was about the media doing the administrations dirty work (yet again) by subtly blaming Bush by starting off their reports with “In a program originally started under the Bush administration……….” It takes the sting out right then and there. They used the same tactic with fast and furious. IRS appointess, etc…. They are simply spinning for the adminstration – and that is NOT their job.
June 7, 2013 at 6:14 pm #790006
wakefloodParticipantPersonally, I think that it’s about time that they actually STARTED doing that in the press. It took LOTS of letters and emails from folks like me to media outlets that didn’t (and often still don’t) do basic “journalistic” things like…oh, I don’t know, identify who funds “experts” and possible conflicts of interest with supposedly independent talking heads they interview, etc., etc. About time they started giving us context for a few things like this.
Total Information Awareness was the brainchild of Adm. Poindexter (Reagan/Bush confidant) and it never went away, even when it was DEFUNDED because it was the embodiment of Big Brother. How about the press telling us why it never was dismantled? Wonder whose administration that happened under??
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