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April 8, 2009 at 5:11 pm #663830
gunnerddogMemberTR,thanks for giving us this forum to exchange ideas and information. This is an incredibly valuable service to WS.
I do think there has been somewhat of a double standard in how some people have been treated. I acknowledge that we don’t have, never will have, and frankly, (I) don’t want to have the whole story. However, I think there have been some egregious examples of people breaking stated forum rules repeatedly and not being called on it. I agree with LL’s sentiment in post 15. I still value WSB and appreciate what it provides, but feel our diversity and spicyness has been somewhat muted.
April 8, 2009 at 5:18 pm #663831
AnonymousInactiveI said it once, and I’ll say it again….if it’s worth saying here it’s worth saying face-to-face. Last time I threw the gauntlet down, the only one who showed up was toddinwestwood.
Based on the experience I’ve had with a couple folks from here at Big Al’s an informal get together could end up being a lot of fun.
Let’s do it. Doesn’t have to be a drunkfest, but it would be nice if some social lubricant was on tap / in the bottle. I suspect more common ground will be found in person than will ever be found here on the forumblog.
Y’all call the place and time.
April 8, 2009 at 5:20 pm #663832
JustSarahParticipantJiggers: yep, you kicked off that thread with your harmless comment. Then there was an even more benign comment from Irukandji, I believe (?) asking if anyone wanted to go in on the house and they could start their own sorority. I thought it was a cute joke, but wow, it angered the original poster.
Honestly, I think part of the problem is the people that whine about a thread can get it deleted even when it doesn’t violate any rules. I don’t think it’s fair for comments to arbitrarily be deleted just because the OP doesn’t like them. When someone starts a thread in a public forum, IMO, s/he should be prepared to hear from people who agree *and* disagree. I think it would be much more fair to delete comments when they clearly violate specific rules, NOT just because the originator of the thread requests they be removed.
Remember the Beveridge Place Pub dog thread I started that grew to over 150 comments? I knew there’d be all kinds of comments, and I certainly didn’t “report” people with whom I disagreed.
Annnnyway…
April 8, 2009 at 5:22 pm #663833
beachdrivegirlParticipantLuig. if I get a bit more notice than last time I would come. Like House, I have also come out in public, so everyone would understand that I too am a person so I see no reason to hide!
April 8, 2009 at 5:27 pm #663834
AnonymousInactiveYep – I’m all for a coordinated less seat-of-the-pants approach to a personal forumblog.
I will even go so far as to say I will hug each and every one of you, if you allow me to.
April 8, 2009 at 5:28 pm #663835
CallMeAlMemberHow’s this for notice: Thursday, April 16th, sometime between 5pm – 6pm. Be there.
April 8, 2009 at 5:29 pm #663836
AnonymousInactiveCallMeAl – I’m in! We probably need to check with others first to validate the location as Big Al’s is beer, beer, and more beer and I’m not 100% certain that everyone is down with that.
Just being courteous to those who don’t indulge in adult beverages!
April 8, 2009 at 5:30 pm #663837
beachdrivegirlParticipantI’m out of town. :( could we do the 15th?? after 6?
April 8, 2009 at 5:34 pm #663838
AnonymousInactiveI’ll fire up an evite to get this started. Feel free to email me at protoposter3000@gmail.com so I can add you to the evite if you’re interested.
April 8, 2009 at 5:40 pm #663839
AdamOnAlkiParticipantThis thread makes me thirsty…for KNOWLEDGE!!!
April 8, 2009 at 5:51 pm #663840
AnonymousInactiveAdam – don’t say you’re coming again, then you don’t show up! :-p
April 8, 2009 at 5:59 pm #663841
charlabobParticipantLuigi, is there some reason you’re doing this by evite? Are you also going to post (publicly) details so folks who want can just show up?
April 8, 2009 at 6:05 pm #663842
charlabobParticipantSince all “sides” cry foul and claim that the moderators are playing favorites, I’d say it must be pretty damned neutral. (Actually, there are only two sides here, plus a lot in the middle and a lot more just confused.)
I completely support what the moderators are doing — think of the forums as an “add on” to their business. If we were putting up paper posters in their physical storefront, and those posters were offensive or counterproductive to their business, they’d just take ’em down and nobody would whine. As far as I can tell, this is the same thing.
Frankly, they’ve been a lot more tolerant of abuse, to themselves and to others, than I would ever have been. :-) LOL hehehehehe (That only applies to the last graph.)
April 8, 2009 at 6:07 pm #663843
AnonymousInactiveEvite is an easy way to coordinate an event and to let others see what’s going on. You have a better suggestion? I’m all for an alternative if there’s one out there as evite requires you to set a date and time up front in order to complete the invite and there isn’t consensus at this point.
If you’re invited via evite, you’ll see the details. It isn’t public and is only visible to invitees, so I see your point. My thought was to have folks chime in and if we can get a group together (however many) that I would post the details here on the forum so everyone could see.
Make sense?
April 8, 2009 at 6:15 pm #663844
charlabobParticipantSure — as long as you’re posting details on the forum and people who find out there can still attend. This venue has a long history of suspicion toward anything that could be viewed as exclusivity. I know better than to think you’d be guilty of that. Thanks for clarifying. Email to follow.
April 8, 2009 at 6:25 pm #663845
AdamOnAlkiParticipantLuigi,
I am not going to say that I am coming, because, frankly, I probably won’t. I am still out here in New York, but I will be in town for two weeks this June for some sexy wedding week stuff with an old friend from my high school days at Seattle Lutheran (I also went to West Seattle HS! YEAH! LOCAL STUFF!). Until then, I will read and confirm all invitations, but really, will not be at any of them. Its my thing.
I also ring doorbells and run away.
April 8, 2009 at 6:27 pm #663846
AnonymousInactiveNo exclusivity here, that’s why I put it out for everyone to see and even provided my email address….
The whole point is to move away from the misinterpretation and suspicion to the actual humanoid element. I’m not suggesting there won’t continue to be disagreement, but maybe once a face / person is associated with a screen name, perceptions will change overall.
It’s just like email. If you use email for work, you probably know that you’re going to get results much quicker with a phone call instead of yet another email.
Adam – You’re still invited!
April 8, 2009 at 6:27 pm #663847
cjboffoliParticipantIf I were invited to a party where the hosts provided all manner of free food and drink and then they asked me to leave when I got drunk and started breaking things, I wouldn’t stand outside on the lawn hurling rocks at their windows. Not only would that be useless, it would be rude. I’d just find another party where maybe they don’t mind if I get drunk and break things. Surely there are plenty of other parties.
(There are. And don’t call me Shirley.)
April 8, 2009 at 6:30 pm #663848
andreaParticipantHa! What Christopher said.
April 8, 2009 at 6:32 pm #663849
rs261MemberI’d probably vomit and passout on their lawn, wake up with no shoes and my pants full of dirt.
I’d still go home happy as long as I was drunk in the morning though.
April 8, 2009 at 6:33 pm #663850
AnonymousInactivecjboffoli – for the record, I’m not buying….well, at least not for everyone the whole evening.
I’m all for getting crazy ripped but I rarely break stuff intentionally.
April 8, 2009 at 6:35 pm #663851
AdamOnAlkiParticipantI want to dress up as the ghost of NewResident for Halloween.
April 8, 2009 at 6:41 pm #663852
SueParticipantI really respect the hard work that TR and Patrick do to keep this place running and keep us all from killing each other. I’ve moderated forums before, and it’s like herding cats – not the easiest task in the world, and often very thankless. When this site was new and we were suggesting things we’d like to see, I actually suggested the idea of a forum – I liked the idea of connecting with community and sharing resources. (Not saying the whole forum was my idea, just that I envisioned it being a fun thing to have here, based on my forum experiences elsewhere.)
I’ll admit I don’t hang out here as often as I used to because of the tone the forums have taken from time to time. I’m all for a good time and some irreverence from time to time, but it turned into a bad car wreck you can’t turn away from: like I’d be compelled to sit here and eat popcorn and laugh while I watched people get all crazy, taking bets on when the posts would get pulled (and reporting those that really went over the line). Then I decided my energy was probably better spent elsewhere sometimes.
I haven’t been inclined to come to a lot of the gatherings because they always seem centered on alcohol. That’s cool if people want that – and they obviously do since it keeps happening and people keep showing – but I’m not really a drinker and I don’t like bars. And I’m too busy to be responsible for setting up an alternative gathering (like a coffee shop).
I think a lot of the time, stuff like this happens when people are hidden behind anonymous screen names. I post with my real name and contact info. I am ever mindful of what I type and how it could be used against me, and I don’t give people that opportunity. I also wouldn’t say anything on here that I wouldn’t say to someone’s face because I try to speak with integrity. I’m not saying anyone who uses a screen name is a problem, but I think that if everyone posted with integrity, took a few deep breaths before reacting, and thought about what they wrote before hitting “send,” it could be a much more manageable place.
April 8, 2009 at 6:44 pm #663853
KBearParticipantGood analogy, Christopher. Since this forum belongs to TR and Patrick, they have every right to delete posts or banish posters. They don’t even need to have a reason. It isn’t “wrong” or “unfair”–it’s THEIR web site. The forum is meant to be a helpful resource to the community. It’s not a contest to see who can come up with the funniest post or the cleverest avatar. The moderators have been very tolerant of differing opinions. They just have a problem with irrelevant posts and general meanness.
April 8, 2009 at 6:48 pm #663854
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