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    wakeflood
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    Certainly don’t need no Vatican, nor Pope, nor College of Cardinals to execute that simple vision that Jefferson offered. And yet, here we have a political (and occasionally military) infrastructure that doles out interpretative dogma on a regular basis and expects to be taken seriously when doing so. Remember when JFK was asked outright in a debate why his Catholicism shouldn’t worry the rest of America should he be elected? The answer he gave was politically astute and eased the minds of many non-Catholics. But he truthfully could have answered that he wasn’t really a Catholic. By any standards of the day, he would have been judged a poor one at best for his infidelities, his ability to lie with a straight face about things like his health and drug use, his spitefulness against enemies, etc, etc. In fact it was his LACK of adherence to the dogma that he wore due to his familial obligations that made him admirable to me. The guy was smart and made many good decisions in spite of his avowed religion. (Bay of Pigs notwithstanding, of course. That fiasco was already on the books the day he took office.)

    #792204

    JanS
    Participant

    I don’t discuss my religion, beliefs, or lack of religion, beliefs with anyone. It’s my business, not yours. I don’t have to broadcast it with a little fish on my car, etc. And it has no bearing on whether I’m a good person or not. It has no bearing on my political stances. It has no place making decisions for the well-being of this nation. It does not give you or anyone the right to judge me, Rich…

    #792205

    HMC Rich
    Participant

    I can judge you or anyone else. In fact our country is too politically correct and we do not judge some peoples choices enough. Sorry, but your “righteous” indignation is yours and by stating what you did, and naming me, you also judged someone. Welcome to the club. But I do hope you have a nice day.

    #792206

    JanS
    Participant

    ??? Really, Rich? what’s that old bible saying ? “Judge not, etc…”? Explain to me how I was judging you?

    It’s another sunny day…not complaining here :) Although we could use a good thunderstorm overnight…as long as the sun comes out again tomorrow :D

    #792207

    Trisket
    Participant

    Everyone look busy, Jesus is coming… and he wants your vote.

    #792208

    MrJT
    Member

    When posts begin with “Look” and “???Really” that could quite possibly be interpreted as snarky. Just a thought…

    #792209

    JanS
    Participant

    Mr. JT…you are the one interpreting…

    once again, you are making a personal comment about me, and not the topic at hand. I think Rich understands me. He and I have met numerous times, even broken bread together. I’m pretty sure he “gets” me.

    #792210

    MrJT
    Member

    Not making a personal comment about you at all. Although, I do find it mildly amusing that even though you are not named in a comment, you feel that it is directed to you.

    #792211

    JanS
    Participant

    oh, believe me, it is…amusing? that’s what I find weird…that it’s all amusing to you…like you think it’s a funny situation. Have I harmed you in some way? I don’t quite understand your fascination with me and what I post. Perhaps it’s time for you to move on to the net amusing person…whaddya think?

    #792212

    MrJT
    Member

    Let’s save the Q&A for professionals, but thanks anyway.

    #792213

    JoB
    Participant

    enough already!

    there is a whole lot of judging going on by totally unqualified non-professionals..

    unfortunately, very little of it is directed at ideas

    #792214

    HMC Rich
    Participant

    Here come da judge. Here come da judge. I enjoyed Laugh In.

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