Below is a copy and pasted post from another local forum I am a member of. The gentlemen is a molecular biologist and explains the toxic issues. I am not posting it in defense of anti-vaccination as I believe The benefits of vaccinations far outweigh the risk, just thought it was good info on the subject that is easy to understand. Sorry, it’s a long one
“So my wife calls me before work from good ole Mississippi (on a work trip to one of their engine plants) and tells me Rand Paul had an interview with some ditz about mandatory vaccines. I’ve been busy at work so have not been paying attention to news and haven’t had time to login here for a while. I was amazed at the idiots and the idiotic statements I saw when looking at the media hype. When Doc closed the other vaccine thread, I had a few people PM me saying thanks for the scientific data I had posted so I thought I would post a new thread to just focus on the Toxic effects of vaccine ingredients. Vaccines do work, the science is sound. The issue these days is what the companies put in them and how the viral material is grown. If they had no adjuvants or preservatives (which means they would need to be fresh and can’t sit for a long time), they would be much better.
I had a feeling this Influenza season as well as the crap I saw with Ebola, would end with a hysteria about vaccines, even though the Flu vaccine didn’t work. I was surprised it came up as a Measles hysteria though. We had the Ebola hysteria, which I tried to tell people was a joke. As a Molecular Biologist, who works with infectious viral samples, I saw all the hype on TV and could see the ignorance about the disease transmission and actual chances of contagion, unless it had mutated more than any vaccine has so quickly.
For those who never read my other posts, I am currently a Molecular Biologist, and just happen to be testing HPV tonight. Have been in Molecular for 6 years and before that I was a Toxicologist for 20 years. Did research in Tox as well, attended Pathology conferences in DC, trips to NIH, offered head of R&D at Research Triangle Park in NC (which I turned down to stay in Seattle). In College I was leaning towards either being Pathologist or get my PhD in Immunology. So I have been thoroughly trained in drugs, toxins, immunological responses, disease states, etc. I also consulted with MD’s and Pathologists as well as Poison Control when they had questions concerning drug interactions, overdose, etc.
I want to mainly show data on Toxic, adverse effects because I keep hearing from people who do not know anything about drugs or their effects say vaccines are totally safe. They also say they are totally effective, which is not correct. A vaccine will normally decrease your chances of getting an infection, if you are healthy. It does not always do that for a myriad of reasons. One big reason is a virus can mutate but also a vaccine (due to adjuvants) will decrease your immune system for a period of time. It can be a shock when you inject aluminum to stimulate a response and when you use multiple viral types (as in a quad vaccine, MMR, etc). Lastly, many vaccines are attenuated (live virus used) and if not processed correctly, they can contain strands of infectious viral material. You can also end up with other types of virus from the cells they are grown in.
As to toxic substances in vaccines, you can easily find sites that list them but CDC also lists some of them. Thimerosal contains mercury (ethyl vs methyl) but the normal pediatric vaccines do not contain it any longer. I believe all of the the multi organism shots do still. I saw a site somewhere that listed the compounds and will try to find it again.
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/additives.htm
To the main point: knowing what the toxic substances are really doesn’t matter though. If you are looking at a vaccine because the risk of infection is greater than any risk from toxins or even other viral material from the cells (monkey, bovine, etc) that the virus is grown in, you should ALWAYS look at the manufacturers insert. It must contain adverse reactions they have found. Different manufacturers make different vaccines and there are many different ways to make them so some are safer than others. Make an educated and logical decision. Don’t believe anyone, even me. Read for yourself. We spend all kinds of time protecting ourselves by studying guns. We should do the same with health. Some day you may have to protect yourself with a firearm. You will die someday of a disease or of old age so why not spend some time on learning health issues also?
Inserts can be requested from any pharmacy but here are a couple sites. One is from John’s Hopkins. I’ll also list some of the adverse reactions from Merck’s MMR II insert since the hysteria seems to be about Measles.
Basic Toxicology states that non-toxic substances (in normal doses, not overloading a bodily system), will cause no adverse reactions. If a substance causes any adverse reactions, it means there is something in it that is causing the damage to an organ or system. Either the person cannot handle the chemical, virus, metal, animal cells, etc or the damage is caused by substances which are listed toxins (mercury, formaldehyde).
http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/package_inserts.htm
http://www.immunize.org/packageinserts/
MMR II ( a Live vaccine) adverse reactions, from Merck Insert:
http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/m/mmr_ii/mmr_ii_pi.pdf
ADVERSE REACTIONS
The following adverse reactions are listed in decreasing order of severity, without regard to causality, within each body system category and have been reported during clinical trials, with use of the marketed vaccine, or with use of monovalent or bivalent vaccine containing measles, mumps, or rubella:
Body as a Whole
Panniculitis; atypical measles; fever; syncope; headache; dizziness; malaise; irritability.
Cardiovascular System
Vasculitis.
Digestive System
Pancreatitis; diarrhea; vomiting; parotitis; nausea.
Endocrine System
Diabetes mellitus.
Hemic and Lymphatic System
Thrombocytopenia (see WARNINGS, Thrombocytopenia); purpura; regional lymphadenopathy;
leukocytosis.
Immune System
Anaphylaxis and anaphylactoid reactions have been reported as well as related phenomena such as angioneurotic edema (including peripheral or facial edema) and bronchial spasm in individuals with or without an allergic history.
Musculoskeletal System
Arthritis; arthralgia; myalgia.
Arthralgia and/or arthritis (usually transient and rarely chronic), and polyneuritis are features of infection with wild-type rubella and vary in frequency and severity with age and sex, being greatest in adult females and least in prepubertal children. This type of involvement as well as myalgia and paresthesia, have also been reported following administration of MERUVAX II.
Chronic arthritis has been associated with wild-type rubella infection and has been related to persistent virus and/or viral antigen isolated from body tissues. Only rarely have vaccine recipients developed chronic joint symptoms.
Following vaccination in children, reactions in joints are uncommon and generally of brief duration. In women, incidence rates for arthritis and arthralgia are generally higher than those seen in children (children: 0-3%; women: 12-26%),{17,56,57} and the reactions tend to be more marked and of longer duration. Symptoms may persist for a matter of months or on rare occasions for years. In adolescent girls, the reactions appear to be intermediate in incidence between those seen in children and in adult women. Even in women older than 35 years, these reactions are generally well tolerated and rarely interfere with normal activities.
Nervous System
Encephalitis; encephalopathy; measles inclusion body encephalitis (MIBE) (see CONTRAINDICATIONS); subacute sclerosing panencephalitis (SSPE); Guillain-Barré Syndrome (GBS); acute disseminated encephalomyelitis (ADEM); transverse myelitis; febrile convulsions; afebrile convulsions or seizures; ataxia; polyneuritis; polyneuropathy; ocular palsies; paresthesia.
Experience from more than 80 million doses of all live measles vaccines given in the U.S. through 1975 indicates that significant central nervous system reactions such as encephalitis and encephalopathy, occurring within 30 days after vaccination, have been temporally associated with measles vaccine very rarely.{58} In no case has it been shown that reactions were actually caused by vaccine. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has pointed out that “a certain number of cases of encephalitis may be expected to occur in a large childhood population in a defined period of time even when no vaccines are administered”. However, the data suggest the possibility that some of these cases may have been caused by measles vaccines. The risk of such serious neurological disorders following live measles virus vaccine administration remains far less than that for encephalitis and encephalopathy with wild-type measles (one per two thousand reported cases).
Post-marketing surveillance of the more than 200 million doses of M-M-R and M-M-R II that have been distributed worldwide over 25 years (1971 to 1996) indicates that serious adverse events such as encephalitis and encephalopathy continue to be rarely reported.{17}
There have been reports of subacute sclerosing panencephalitis (SSPE) in children who did not have a history of infection with wild-type measles but did receive measles vaccine. Some of these cases may have resulted from unrecognized measles in the first year of life or possibly from the measles vaccination. Based on estimated nationwide measles vaccine distribution, the association of SSPE cases to measles vaccination is about one case per million vaccine doses distributed. This is far less than the association with infection with wild-type measles, 6-22 cases of SSPE per million cases of measles. The results of a retrospective case-controlled study conducted by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention suggest that the overall effect of measles vaccine has been to protect against SSPE by preventing measles with its inherent higher risk of SSPE.{59}
Cases of aseptic meningitis have been reported to VAERS following measles, mumps, and rubella vaccination. Although a causal relationship between the Urabe strain of mumps vaccine and aseptic meningitis has been shown, there is no evidence to link Jeryl LynnTM mumps vaccine to aseptic meningitis.
Respiratory System
Pneumonia; pneumonitis (see CONTRAINDICATIONS); sore throat; cough; rhinitis.
Skin
Stevens-Johnson syndrome; erythema multiforme; urticaria; rash; measles-like rash; pruritis.
Local reactions including burning/stinging at injection site; wheal and flare; redness (erythema); swelling; induration; tenderness; vesiculation at injection site.
Special Senses — Ear
Nerve deafness; otitis media.
Special Senses — Eye
Retinitis; optic neuritis; papillitis; retrobulbar neuritis; conjunctivitis.
Urogenital System
Epididymitis; orchitis.
Other
Death from various, and in some cases unknown, causes has been reported rarely following vaccination with measles, mumps, and rubella vaccines; however, a causal relationship has not been established in healthy individuals (see CONTRAINDICATIONS).”
