Arrowhead Gardens residents confront city reps with ‘encampment across the street’ concerns

(April photo of encampment, taken by an Arrowhead Gardens resident)

By Tracy Record
West Seattle Blog editor

The growing encampment in the woods east of the north end of Myers Way [map] is currently the Southwest Precinct‘s second-highest call-generating location, police say. And that’s a major reason why it’s high on the priority list for a future site cleanup.

That’s what a room packed with dozens of concerned residents at Arrowhead Gardens – the senior-living complex across the street from that encampment – heard from a panel of city reps in a meeting Monday afternoon. You can see it in its entirety in the video below, recorded and provided by AG resident John Walling.

Resident Diane Radischat facilitated the meeting, with a city panel including Southwest Precinct Crime Prevention Coordinator Jennifer Danner and Operations Lt. Dorothy Kim, the precinct’s City Attorney liaison Joe Everett, Tom Van Bronkhorst from the city’s homelessness-response-focused Unified Care Team, and another UCT rep, Marta Idowu, the Civil Rights Advisory Commission Liaison for the Mayor’s Office.

Danner began with a reminder of when to call 911: “SPD is very data-driven … we rely on our community to make sure the data is accurate … if you see any kind of criminal or suspicious activity, we want you to report it.” She said that in many cases, the “data” – records of 911 calls – doesn’t match what they hear at meetings like this, and indeed as the meeting went on, several people mentioned incidents that they hadn’t called in at the time.

But it was stressed that aside from criminal or suspicious activity, SPD is not the agency to call just to report an unauthorized encampment’s existence.

Van Bronkhorst added, “Our preferred way to get info about encampments is through the Find It Fix It app .. also the Citizens Service Bureau … from there it’s triaged by our customer-service department and sent to the (appropriate) department,” which will decide how to handle it from there. (The Citizens Service Bureau is at 206-684-CITY.) But he also offered the caveat that the city has more than 400 “active” encampment, so responses take time – “the more (a problem is) reported, the more chances there are for it to be prioritized.” (The prioritization process was extensively outlined by City Councilmember Lisa Herbold in this recent post.)

This site, Van Bronkhorst, is “complex,” because it has multiple owners (including state and city), a steep slope, “environmental concerns,” and he said that all meant that clearing it would “take some coordination … “we’re just beginning conversations to make a plan (with) a coordinated approach to address the encampment.” They have to have enough shelter/housing to offer to its residents, for example, though he added that “outreach has been going on for several months … (we) get to know them, get to know what their needs are.”

The Arrowhead Gardens residents expressed the feeling that their needs – primarily safety – were not being taken seriously. One asked, “When are you going to start caring more about us than you do about them?” Facilitator Radischat noted that there’ve been encampments off and on in that area “for a number of years” but “we actually feel endangered with this particular group of people unlike any other time.” That declaration drew applause. Their complex is a “little city with almost 600 vulnerable adults” but despite many apartments overlooking the encampment, they have “not seen anyone who seems to have any semblance of authority going into” the encampment, outreach or otherwisse.

When another resident complained that she had seen “three police cars looking at a stalled car” along Myers but ignoring the encampment, Lt. Kim explained again that encampment removals are for the Unified Care Team to address, not SPD. “It’s more complicated now than it used to be.” Danner reiterated that if criminal or suspicious activity is seen in the encampment – or anywhere else – that’s when SPD can respond.

Those who had called about various issues said they didn’t always see a police response. “When you call 911, say you want contact,” Danner advised. 911 is part of a different city department, but they’re the ones who prioritize where they send police, she said – “we don’t get to decide to not show up to calls.”

General concerns voiced about the encampment ranged from gunshots – one woman said bullets had hit her patio door – to fires to drug dealing/use to auto theft to a sign that had been displayed saying “rob and kill” – a sign one man said “was there for four weeks, staring at us.” Yet another resident said it looked like the campers are “polluting up a storm … they have backhoes in there cutting down trees and nobody cares.”

The repeated response was that they do care, that getting to action just takes time and planning. For the future clearance of the site, Lt. Kim said, “what we learned at 2nd and Michigan” – the recently cleared site by the 1st Avenue South Bridge – “was really valuable.” That site, too, is owned by multiple jurisdictions and required a lot of pre-cleanup logistics. “We have secured that area and we do have guidance to arrest for trespassing if (the site) is reoccupied … Trust me, it’s on everybody’s radar that this (Myers Way) encampment be removed, but it’s going to (take) a little bit of process).”

Around that point in the meeting, there was a brief disruption – someone could be heard yelling from the encampment, in view from the meeting-room windows. Attendees suggested the panel look out for an example of what they’re worried about. But the meeting continued, with a side concern about semi-truck parking along Myers and blocked lines of sight when residents try to leave the complex. The SPD reps promised to surface that to Parking Enforcement.

Then back to the encampment, and concerns that illicit activity has spilled over onto the AG grounds. “It’s just one thing after another,” declared a resident. “We’ve talked to police so many times, we tell (intruders) to get out of here, they come back an hour later.” How can they protect themselves walking the complex grounds? Danner mentioned the personal-safety classes she offers online.

At one point the discussion moved to how and where campers would find housing, when they’re moved (although it was made clear that no one can be forced to accept it). Van Bronkhorst said they had to have spaces in places such as “congregate shelter and tiny house villages.” Arrowhead Gardens is just a few blocks north of West Seattle’s only tiny-house village, Camp Second Chance, and residents made it clear they have no beef with CSC – “it DOES work.” (AG has supported CSC in a variety of ways including donation drives.) They wondered why authorities aren’t building more such villages; Van Bronkhorst acknowledged that the King County Regional Homelessness Authority and the federal government are not big fans of tiny-house villages.

Before the meeting wrapped up, one man pointed out who was not there: “I don’t see anyone here from the City Council, or State of Washington lawmakers.” Everett suggested the residents proactively reach out to those leaders and others “to bring awareness to your issue.”

But there is awareness already, the city reps tried to assure attendees. Lt. Kim said, “I am super-positive going forward … this is a priority and I do believe it will get done sooner rather than later.”

83 Replies to "Arrowhead Gardens residents confront city reps with 'encampment across the street' concerns"

  • Odd son May 9, 2023 (3:27 pm)

    Good luck Arrowhead Gardens and people dealing with problem encampments all over the city (for years).

  • flimflam May 9, 2023 (4:22 pm)

    How depressing. Nobody should have to live next to that mess,  but especially seniors who have earned the right to some peace and tranquillity in their later years. It really is as if the lawless and “campers” ARE of more concern than the neighborhood. Cutting trees? The city and advocates, etc have made this way too complicated. If outreach has been there, then what is the city waiting for?

  • Question Authority May 9, 2023 (4:40 pm)

    It’s quite frustrating to see that entire area trashed again after all the previous work restoring it, let alone the further financial costs about to be placed on Taxpayers.

  • MyThruppence May 9, 2023 (4:41 pm)

    They are going to need to be much, much more nimble about going from reports to action. Months between the two points in time only allows these havens of crime and filth to grow and destructively spread. Sweep early, sweep often. The illegal squatters will soon learn where and when their efforts will be all for naught.

  • John May 9, 2023 (4:55 pm)

     When asked about residents feeling unsafe when at Arrowhead Garden’s complex Southwest Precinct Crime Prevention Coordinator Danner recommended on-line personal safety classes to a group of those living in Senior Housing??!!  Oh, my.  

    • Elizabeth May 9, 2023 (5:42 pm)

      I had to read that twice. They suggest the Seniors take classes for safety, but not remove the camp? Is that crazy ? 

      • TM May 9, 2023 (9:13 pm)

        Yeah that’s nuts, and wrong. Months/years of open-season vice and squalor across the street from a retiree home and it’s on the seniors to tighten up their act?

      • Chrissy D May 10, 2023 (9:14 pm)

        This is the protocol for all situations, the majority has to adapt to the minority. It’s easier for the system, they know that most of the majority are law abiding citizens and will comply, the disrupters are too difficult to navigate and control , so they continue doing what ever the F they want, while the rest of us continue adapting.

  • Kt May 9, 2023 (5:11 pm)

    Has the management beefed up its security for these paying tenants?  Seems like that should be something that should happen asap.  24 hour on site security with escorts to and from vehicles and bus stops.

    • Brian May 9, 2023 (5:39 pm)

      Most folks at Arrowhead Gardens are on a fixed income. Hiring a staff of security guards will necessarily raise their rent and cause some to have to move out when they cannot afford it. 

    • Neighbor May 10, 2023 (10:09 am)

      Bad take.  Everyone deserves to be safe and secure, not just the people lucky enough to afford private security.

    • Kelly May 11, 2023 (12:53 am)

      It’s not the management’s fault that the city won’t do their job.  Sheesh.

    • Jason May 11, 2023 (7:21 am)

      The Fire Department training center across the street gets broken into on almost a nightly basis.  They have had large amounts of equipment (life saving and otherwise) taken, and training supplies are constantly stolen.  The cut fences get patched, and they are back to cut them again the next night.  It’s out of control for everyone down there, and the city doesn’t care.  We are the poster child city for patheticness. 

  • Admiral May 9, 2023 (5:20 pm)

    When a private property owner illegally vandalized trees the City was quick to issue a fine.  Why can’t the City be consistent in enforcing the SMC to protect the green space?  

    • Duffy May 9, 2023 (9:32 pm)

      Um, take a wild guess? Please understand that these drug den dwellers now run the city. They do what they want and taxpayer dollars 💸 cleans up their mess time and time again, literally footing the bill whatever the cost may be. It’s a systemic failure and nobody in “government” seems to really care.

    • The King May 9, 2023 (10:42 pm)

      I’ve said for years now Seattle has class laws. It’s going in the wrong direction quickly and they will keep asking the captive atm’s (homeowners), for more money. People will vote yes, hoping for improvement again and again. 

  • Concerned citizen May 9, 2023 (5:32 pm)

    Just a concerned citizen agreeing with ‘depressing’ and ‘frustrating’ — sad to see not only the filth, etc., but knowing the trees are gone. I sincerely hope cleanup is swift. 

    • Ferns May 9, 2023 (11:22 pm)

      The sheer cost of restoring the critical slope and trees can be billed to them. I’d like proof of fines and court summonses for these organized criminals who are destroying and trespassing. It lowers morale for everyone when some don’t play by the rules and aren’t held accountable. 

  • Also John May 9, 2023 (5:59 pm)

    Keep calling 911.  Calling the ‘fix it’ number will get you no where.  Calling 911 will piss them off to the point where they’ll actually do something.Let the City know they shouldn’t mess with senior citizens.

  • oerthehillz May 9, 2023 (6:32 pm)

    I feel badly for those living at Arrowhead. This has been going on for years. Way back 6-7 years ago their building was being broken into by homeless vagrants. People sleeping in stairwells, stealing belongings and terrorizing seniors. Hopefully they feel heard this time.

    • Kelly May 11, 2023 (12:57 am)

      Sorry, but that’s jut not true. We’ve had some thefts in the last year or two, and a break-in about a year and a half ago. I’ve been living at Arrowhead for 10 years now, and this type of crap didn’t start until about 4-5 years ago, right after city councilperson Lisa Herboldt started her first term. They should move these addicts up to her front porch.

  • Canton May 9, 2023 (6:42 pm)

    So it is legal now for the homeless to clear trees for RV parking??! If I were to go there and harvest firewood, pretty sure I’d be arrested…

  • Monica Jae May 9, 2023 (7:12 pm)

    Zoom in and you can see the stairs and fence the occupants have built. They had a banner before the “rob & kill,” that welcomed the homeless to stay there. I’m livid every morning when my bus goes by. Degrading to our senior citizens who’ve work so hard to have a home only to have to deal with this. 

  • Seattlite May 9, 2023 (7:13 pm)

    Seniors are vulnerable and should be PROTECTED.  Who did all of you commenters vote for on Seattle’s City Council?  Seattle’s policies matter.  Millions and Millions and Millions have been given to Seattle, King County, WA State to resolve the homelessness and drug addiction that goes with it.  You all need to contact the City Council you voted for…after all they WORK for you.

  • Rhonda May 9, 2023 (7:26 pm)

    Protect our seniors! This illegal encampment should have NEVER been allowed to be established.

  • dismayed May 9, 2023 (7:29 pm)

    I am so sorry that the residents at Arrow Gardens are dealing with this! If there are 600 residents at Arrow Gardens, I would suggest that EACH resident make a phone call  or three EVERY day to the “find it fix it”  number as well as the Citizens Service Bureau. Since they said that the more times something is reported it will get more attention.  And of course keep calling 911 each time you see illegal activity. It is HORRIBLE that this is not a priority for every agency.  

  • Laurel May 9, 2023 (7:40 pm)

    But yes – let’s go ahead and give the city more money to fund encampment and homeless (drug) efforts and trust that they use it wisely.

  • Derek May 9, 2023 (7:53 pm)

    Why don’t you provide housing???? Wow we care more about HOMED people than the unhoused?? What is wrong with this picture?

    • Laurel May 9, 2023 (8:42 pm)

      Derek, I hate to be the one to break it to you, but sadly, these aren’t simply homeless individuals. If you go visit them, you are sure to find drug needles and stolen belongs scattered everywhere (like that boat there that they’re just saving for a sunny day). Yes, we should care about these innocent housed seniors who likely worked their a**es off to have some peace in their life. Yes – WORKED. 

      • Dancajam May 9, 2023 (10:11 pm)

        The addiction generally results from being homeless and other trauma. Not everyone living there is addicted, and even the people with addiction have worked much of their lives (and alcohol/cigarettes/psych meds are not so different than those substances). They are at human as anyone else and as worthy as any of us.

        • Kelly May 11, 2023 (1:04 am)

          Yes, Dancanjam — they’re human, they’re worthy, but they should also be responsible. They’re not.

    • flimflam May 9, 2023 (10:04 pm)

      Lol I knew you’d chime in defending the jerks destroying this green space and terrorizing the folks living at arrowhead. Go ahead and rant against someone’s grandma or grandpa some more…

    • Oh Seattle May 9, 2023 (10:05 pm)

      Yes, Derek, I do care more about fixed income elderly people who are being terrorized than I care about the unhoused people who are doing the terrorizing.   Although I’m sure that “rob and kill” sign was created and displayed in the spirit of building community.

      • Ferns May 9, 2023 (11:26 pm)

        I wonder if a couple hundred of the seniors decided to “move in” to the encampment too, what would happen? There are certainly more of them… 

    • Rhonda May 9, 2023 (10:19 pm)

      Derek, the seniors at Arrowhead Gardens are PAYING to be there from their life savings, paychecks from working, pensions, social security, etc. They’ve worked hard all of their adult lives and don’t deserve to be subjected to the crime, drug use, violence, and lawlessness of the illegal squatters. Seniors deserve housing WAY before young drug users and thieves and I’m glad you’re not in charge of public housing funds.

    • Wake up May 10, 2023 (12:38 pm)

      Are they living across the street from you? In your back alley? No? Have you taken any into your home? Have they scared your kids? No? Then stop with the platitudes and follow up on where your taxes are going. There’s money to fix this. Most aren’t “mad” at the homeless per se but we all should be fed up by the lack of action by our leaders. This is an epidemic and seniors on fixed incomes are also barely subsisting in this city. Arrowhead gardens is not a resort 55+ community by any means. Why should they have to deal with this daily when I bet you are not. And yes, trees matter too, 

  • Derek May 9, 2023 (7:55 pm)

    I have to laugh at the concern trolling of “will someone think of the trees?!?!” commentary when we have HUMAN BEINGS LIVING OUTSIDE because housing is way too expensive in this country. 

    • Laurel May 9, 2023 (8:47 pm)

      Derek, Here to drop another truth bomb on you. People who simply need housing and have fallen on hard times (and not doing illegal activities or wanting to continue drug use) will go to a shelter or take advantage of one of the several programs the city has to assist – they will not live in these encampments – where it’s infested with crime and drug use. 

      • Kyle May 9, 2023 (9:47 pm)

        A truth bomb for you laurel. There are housed criminals and addicts too. Do you think Detroit and Chicago have solved mental health issues and that no one steals or uses drugs in those cities? Or are housing prices, based partially off the communities land use regulations, more affordable so that having a mental health crisis means you don’t necessarily have to end up on the street? You can live in a house and still suffer these societal ills. I am for getting these people help and clearing the encampment. But we should all take a look in the mirror in how we got here on the west coast and in Seattle. It’s not completely black and white.

        • Laurel May 9, 2023 (10:23 pm)

          Kyle – never did I claim that those activities can’t/don’t happen in a house. Or, that just because someone gets help through a program, that they have no other issues. Correct. Obviously. But, speaking about the encampments at hand: do you think that people who simply can’t afford housing would behave like this? (Ie: it’s pretty obvious why people feel unsafe around these encampments). 

        • MyThruppence May 9, 2023 (10:45 pm)

          Here’s my truth bomb contribution. If we had an infinite supply of “affordable” housing, it would still never be enough to satisfy the hoards of people who would migrate here because of all the terrific “affordable” housing we have. We must be realistic.

        • Rhonda May 9, 2023 (11:40 pm)

          Kyle, homeless drug users simply squat in the thousands of abandoned buildings in Detroit and Chicago. It’s FAR too cold for them to live in encampments in those cities during 6 to 7 months of the year. They aren’t “housed” by the taxpayers there.

      • Dancajam May 9, 2023 (10:18 pm)

        This is inaccurate. There are significant numbers of homeless people who do not use drugs, but cannot tolerate the congregate shelters for many other equally legitimate or more legitimate reasons. I don’t think you realize how close together people are packed in there. Or how much of your belongings they make you throw away (unless you can spontaneously afford a storage unit). Or how understaffed and therefore unsafe these places can feel.

    • Canton May 9, 2023 (9:37 pm)

      Derek. These people are not doing drugs cause they’re homeless, they are homeless because they won’t stop the drug use. These folks have more rights in this city, than the people that work hard to pay the taxes that get flushed in the process.

      • Dancajam May 9, 2023 (10:16 pm)

        This is not true and if you have ever talked to significant number of  homeless people, you would know it. Many have already been through treatment and came out the other side and there was no Housing, so they relapsed and don’t rationally see the point in trying treatment again until housed.if you think they have more rights than we do, I don’t know what world you’re living in. 

        • MyThruppence May 9, 2023 (10:51 pm)

          Perhaps then during treatment it should be stressed that the reason to get clean isn’t for free housing. The reason for treatment is to get clean. IF we can assist someone before, during, and after that is awesome, but if not, it doesn’t change the fact that getting clean is step one and the reward in itself.

        • Canton May 10, 2023 (8:19 am)

          It’s all good. Now I know it’s legal to clear cut trees in any area of the city, I’m thinking about a summer cabin. The same rules apply, correct?

  • Bill May 9, 2023 (9:00 pm)

    I was at the meeting when Lisa  Herbold was running for office in the last election. The meeting was at Arrowhead Gardens. At that time she assured the residents of Arrowhead Gardens  that she would make sure that their saftey would never be issue.

  • Steph May 9, 2023 (9:56 pm)

    We had a person/ thief who built a trash pile encampment on our block. We tried for over a year to get it removed but nothing was done. Then it burned up and almost took the neighboring house with it. About 18 twelve foot high arborvitae were burnt to crisps and probably saved the house.  The Burien fire department saved the day I was told, even though it was on the Seattle side of Roxbury.  Take a look at how many encampment fires there are. It is shocking! And have you seen the photos of the RV’s burning up? Very dangerous for tax paying citizens.  We deserve basic safety for the exorbitant taxes we pay.

    • Find it Fix it, done! May 10, 2023 (12:47 pm)

      Well, I hope you used the app, that should have taken care of it!! lol

  • 1994 May 9, 2023 (10:05 pm)

    Illegal dumping at a minimum. Doesn’t trespassing apply?  And Derek, the homed people pay taxes which end up supporting the unhoused people living in self created unsanitary conditions. Figure that one out for us! How does that make sense?!? Have you, Derek, gone to ask the unhoused people if they would like FREE housing but there are some rules they need to adhere to?!? 

    • Dancajam May 9, 2023 (10:13 pm)

      Nobody turns down housing. They turn down shelter when the shelters are crappy. If you don’t like with some of these folks across the street, imagine living with a random assortment of homeless people in a crowded space. They have a right to feel safe too. Yet most of the shelters are full anyway.

      Oh, and homeless people pay sales taxes. And they paid more including property taxes right up until they were evicted by government agents that we decided to fund with our tax money

    • WS Res May 10, 2023 (12:58 pm)

      “Shelter” is not housing.  “Shelter” is not housing. “Shelter” is not housing.

      • Lauren May 11, 2023 (1:13 pm)

        Thank you, WS Res – repeat it for the people in the back.

  • Alki Jack May 9, 2023 (10:13 pm)

    The residents of Arrowhead Gardens should all try to find housing in a different area because very little will be done with this filthy mess and most are too old to see it happen, if and when it does. Move out now, move somewhere were you can look out and see something nice. You are seniors and deserve better.

  • Admiral May 9, 2023 (10:14 pm)

    Laurel – agreed.  I wonder what Derek would think if his mom was living at Arrowhead Gardens? 

    The City has provided too many carrots and now needs to bring out the stick, enough already.

    • Derek May 11, 2023 (8:13 am)

      Wouldn’t care one bit, frankly. Because I don’t need to concern myself with every little thing the poor are doing to get by, including drug use. Try it sometime. 

      • KinesthesiaAmnesia May 12, 2023 (8:57 am)

        How about you try following your own advice before pushing it onto others? Your mean concern trolling in the comments for almost every article about encampments is becoming more tiresome than any of the encampments.

  • aa May 9, 2023 (11:11 pm)

    The other day I had the opportunity to drive through several areas of Seattle and I was shocked at the increased number of encampments on Myers Way.  I also noticed how much downtown has cleaned up.  I’m thinking that in an attempt to show that Seattle is safe for the convention and cruise visitors,  all of the trailers and tents were pushed out of downtown Seattle and into the outlying areas.   No solution, just a shuffling of people.  

    • Js May 10, 2023 (9:36 am)

      It is likely because the MLB All-star game will be coming to town in July and the city will be on display to at least half a continent. 

  • M May 10, 2023 (7:10 am)

    Recap of last week on here: Let’s protect these seniors who deserve so much and also please don’t build housing for them near me or any services.

    • WestSeattleBadTakes May 10, 2023 (10:35 am)

      Reactionaries dominate here. They haven’t thought deeply about much but that doesn’t matter, they are experts in their own opinions.

      They weaponize empathy or progressive ideals when it suits their agenda. In this case, the care of seniors suits their agenda which is the continued dehumanization of homeless people and the criminalization of homelessness.

      They openly and proudly post opposing ideas because they have no principles. Everyone and everything is a pawn, in this case it is seniors. They have no positive vision for humanity, they only seek to enforce a hierarchy where they are at the top.

      • Gaslit May 10, 2023 (12:17 pm)

        So you’re good with people trespassing on an eldercare’s grounds, posting signs that say rob and kill, firing guns and stealing cars? Supporting terrorizing old people and then taking a moral high ground, smh. 

        • WS Res May 10, 2023 (6:40 pm)

          Sarcasm, the grumpy man’s humor.

      • William May 11, 2023 (1:11 am)

        “They have no positive vision for humanity, they only seek to enforce a hierarchy where they are at the top.”  Oh for pete’s sake. The seniors are living in bargain basement low-income housing. They’re so close to being homeless themselves, your entire post is laughable. And also extremely hypocritical.

  • Tran Du May 10, 2023 (8:05 am)

    I have to walk north on Myers way every morning to the metro park and ride. I don’t always feel safe… when my lease is up in September I am moving. I was told the area has a large creek that feeds into the Duwamish and it was declared an environmentally sensitive area per habitat restoration.

  • CMB May 10, 2023 (8:22 am)

    The residence of Arrowhead Gardens are correct, the City does not care. Keep this in mind when you vote this fall for City Council. 

  • Scarlett May 10, 2023 (8:34 am)

    It doesn’t take much to become homeless.  String together a few misfortunes, and perhaps bad mistakes, and suddenly you are in a place you never thought you’d be.  It can happen in the blink of an eye.  They only reason some of you aren’t in this position is because you happened to have financial resources to smooth over your mistakes or inadequacies in life, usually intergenerational wealth that landed in you lap.  And please, spare me the soliloquies about how you built your fortune on that shiny nickel in your pocket.  

  • Scarlett May 10, 2023 (8:52 am)

    Most homeless do not report drug addiction or alcoholism as the cause of their homelessness.  

  • snowskier May 10, 2023 (9:22 am)

    The seniors coexistence with Camp Second Chance and offers of mutual assistance shows their care and compassion for those going through a hard time.  It also highlights the extreme difference between homeless individuals working to stabilize their situation and lawless vagrants that have formed the settlement across the street.  The lack of action and amount of circular blame by different agencies is appalling but not surprising.  No surprise that Herbold is silent on this part of her district.  These are low and fixed income seniors, can we get a more deserving group??  

  • T Rex May 10, 2023 (10:38 am)

    Downtown is getting cleaned up because the MLB All-star game is coming to Seattle, our “leaders” do NOT want the true occupants of our streets in National TV now do they?  Nope they do not. 

  • Amy Thomson May 10, 2023 (10:53 am)

    Given that encampments like this one recur in the area fairly frequently, the city should have a plan in place to deal with them.  If the city logged areas that encampments tend to pop up, and had contact numbers for the property owners, this could happen much faster.  I’m familiar with Arrowhead Gardens, and this is not a new problem there.

  • The Earl May 10, 2023 (11:50 am)

    Have you driven by and had a look? It’s a mess. These folks aren’t even trying to behave as good neighbors. 

  • Jay May 10, 2023 (12:16 pm)

    I really wish we could have more parking lots dedicated to encampments. Add dumpsters, honey buckets, etc. We have acres of underutilized parking lots in the county. I don’t see why the city is pushing campers into green spaces where massive environmental damage is being done. It’s so sad to see, and it’s a tragedy for everyone involved.

    • WestSeattleBadTakes May 10, 2023 (5:45 pm)

      Richest country in the world, all we can come up with and actually do are some parking lot concentration camps?

  • Depressing is right… May 10, 2023 (12:23 pm)

    As mentioned so sad that these older folks Have to spend your time dealing with this. Second big waste of time- hearing how data-driven our smart city is with the implication that if we’d all be smart enough to download the right app and report things more often they would fix the giant mess right outside the window from the presenters. Shall I send a “find it fix it” message every mile along I-5 for graffiti, crime, tents and trash? And every time I walk in every single Seattle park??!!

  • Every West Seattle Business May 10, 2023 (1:12 pm)

    Every business on California Avenue should have signs with the “find it fix it” app QR code (if there is one) in their windows so we customers can report everything we encounter on the way to and from their business. 

    • Derek May 11, 2023 (11:21 am)


  • me on 28th Ave SW May 10, 2023 (4:39 pm)

    This past winter I reported, on the find it fix it app, an encampment that was getting bigger and encroaching on a pedestrian stairwell between a bus stop on Aurora and my Lake Union job.  I got a somewhat bland and ineffective reply, essentially saying nothing would be done.  I stopped taking that bus if it meant walking in the dark on my early am route.  In the afternoon, I continued to walk through it.  One day, it was gone.  The next day I noticed the scorch marks on the concrete stairwell.  A quick search on the Seattle Fire page showed it was an encampment fire and that there are several fires like this in Seattle every day. 😳

  • Jill Loblaw May 10, 2023 (6:23 pm)

    I say start blaring polka music loudly at night. 

    • 1994 May 10, 2023 (10:36 pm)

      Yes, loud polka music every night! The finger pointers can continue their finger pointing stand offs and nothing happens except the unhoused continue to wallow in the filth they create.  The rest of us get to observe the mess until the finger pointers make a decision and clean up the mess. Such an absurd system.

  • The Earl May 11, 2023 (11:37 am)

    Gosh oh jee. You can be assured that these folks were all stellar tenants when they were living in conventional homes.

  • Marie May 11, 2023 (10:26 pm)

    The city owns a lot of vacant land. I may be missing something, but it seems like they could use that land to create RV parks for people with a community building with bathrooms, showering facilities, a communal kitchen, and laundry facilities, plus regular trash pickup. For people who don’t have RVs, offer more tiny home communities, with amenities, like trash collection. All should have staff who oversee the facility, and provide services, such as referral for drug treatment, assistance with finding a job, and basic health care. I think this would help everyone in the situation and maybe even save money.

Sorry, comment time is over.