Déja vu at Alki Beach: Sunny day = littering beachgoers

Alki photographer David Hutchinson was out at the beach early this morning and dismayed to see this scene repeated (remember April?) – in multiple spots. Not long after he took the photos, David says, a Parks Department crew came by for trash pickup. But the point of this isn’t to criticize Parks, which put out some extra cans after last month’s litterfest – some of which still overflowed or were ignored:

The point is for people to consider picking up after themselves. David notes there’s available space in “dumpsters (usually half empty) when cans are full. There are 5 dumpsters from 59th Ave to 56th Ave – a distance of 4 blocks. They are spaced about every block. There are 3 dumpsters around the Alki Bathhouse plus 1 dumpster for recycling. An additional dumpster is located by the picnic shelter down at 62nd.” After all, it’s not like somebody’s on hand to bus your table:

We know many people who use Alki won’t see this story because the beach draws from far beyond West Seattle. But if you do go to the beach on a sunny day, or know someone planning an event, be sure to make sure an extra bag or two is in the plan, and even consider packing out your trash – or at least hauling it to the nearest dumpster, which probably, as David points out, will have room.

45 Replies to "Déja vu at Alki Beach: Sunny day = littering beachgoers"

  • JanS May 13, 2012 (2:26 pm)

    and we have to not be afraid to speak up. When we see someone just dumping their garbage on the ground, we need to call them out. When we see students form Madison Middle school, and WSHS, do the same in our neighborhoods, we need to not be afraid to stop them, make them pick it up…shame them a bit. It takes a community. If we don’t tell them, maybe no one else (obviously) is. What a damned disgrace [people are at times.

  • Silly Goose May 13, 2012 (2:36 pm)

    Went down to alki for dinner on Friday night and all of the groups hanging out down there were not from West Seattle, they show up in hoards and take over the out door seating in front of the resturants, saw crude things as you walk by, throw their garbage on the ground. Stay in your own neighborhood we don’t want you in West Seattle.

  • coffee May 13, 2012 (2:37 pm)

    And almost all of that trash is recycle items. Why can’t the city put out more recycle containers?

  • Coyote May 13, 2012 (2:38 pm)

    Such a shame. This is why I don’t go to Alki anymore.

  • Kaboom May 13, 2012 (3:26 pm)

    I didn’t know you could drink beer at the beach…

  • ripper May 13, 2012 (3:26 pm)

    What a bunch of friggin slobs. People behave like animals sometimes.

  • Noelle May 13, 2012 (4:18 pm)

    Yay! There was no issue with punks, guns or knives . . . so I say it was a great 1st warm day in May!

  • (required) May 13, 2012 (4:28 pm)

    Responsibility, anyone? Hello? What about “pack it in, pack it out” and “leave nothing but footprints”? Obviously, too many recent Alki visitors missed those lessons. I think the answer isn’t more government-provided trash cans, either, though. I think we and law enforcement need to step up. If you see pigs polluting but don’t feel you can kindly ask the offending pigs to pick up after themselves, you need to ask police for “encouragement.” Littering enforcement seems overdue, perhaps. We all play a role. Sitting on our rear ends and whining about what the “city” needs to do, though, isn’t the answer: we ARE the city.

  • smokeycretin9 May 13, 2012 (4:31 pm)

    I say we organize a WEst Seattle Group to go to Golden Gardens, Seward Park or Matthews Beach Park and trash it one night.

    Who’s in?

  • Harry Reems May 13, 2012 (4:39 pm)

    I defintely do not want people who aren’t fortunate enough to live in West Seattle to stop visiting, when people visit they tend to spend money here so that is a good thing. However, some people lack general decency and respect for others, these pictures are a sad example of how we are deteriorating as a society.

  • farron May 13, 2012 (4:41 pm)

    How ’bout SPD cite them for littering, and run them for warrants?

  • Rebecca May 13, 2012 (5:00 pm)

    Ah yes, one of the reasons we moved away from Alki last month. How about one sunny day, 100 Alki/West Seattle residents in matching shirts literally march the beach enforcing this rule? I vote that violators who don’t comply get picked up and chucked into the Puget Sound.

  • The Shadow May 13, 2012 (5:07 pm)

    I’m with you, farron. Have a plainclothes SPD ‘strike force’ hand out $100 littering tickets and run IDs for warrants over a few weekends, and we’ll solve the littering and the gangbanger problems at once!

  • scubafrog May 13, 2012 (5:18 pm)

    I live on Alki, it’s bedlam. I haven’t seen 1 police officer for hours.

    Kids burning out on their motorcycles, in their cars, racing, car stereos louder than any concert I’ve been to, groups of drunk teens screaming…

    Was this “anti-cruising ordinance” ever enforced?

    Besides the 2 police officers across the street from that little burger joint, are there any police officers to be found on all of Alki Ave SW?

    Unfortunately, it usually takes a death via shooting/car accident/motorcycle accident to ‘jolt’ the police into consciousness around here. Sad.

  • CJ May 13, 2012 (6:05 pm)

    Haha, Rebecca, great idea! I’m in! This is one of the reasons we moved away from Alki as well. Farron, also a great idea.

  • WsBoB May 13, 2012 (7:58 pm)

    I saw the pictures and now I have a tear running down my face,,,I think I will go down there and start picking up trash.

  • WestSide45 May 13, 2012 (8:10 pm)

    How about an ordinance which mandates anyone who comes to Alki when the weather is nice must return to Alki sometime from October through February and hang out. One day in the fall/winter for every day spent in the spring/summer. I bet that would thin out the crowds. Enforcement, however, would no-doubt be spotty.

  • Krm66 May 13, 2012 (8:45 pm)

    I moved to the junction from alki because of the trash that rolls in during warm weather, and i am not talking about the trash left on the ground.

  • DiverLaura May 13, 2012 (10:05 pm)

    The pictures only show what stays on the beach. It was a VERY windy day today so I’d almost bet money that a fair bit of garbage got blown into the water.

    Some of this will get washed up on the beach (I’ll try to get out too and visit the beach with my grabber in the a.m. before our dive for the kids (Pacific Marine Research Marine Science Afloat program – the Argosy boat down at the end of the beach)

    By then the tides will have switched a couple times and collect the floaty stuff on the beach) but sadly we will also see more “fresh” garbage underwater as well :(

  • LyndaB May 13, 2012 (10:59 pm)

    When I saw the pic, my immediate response was to pick up the trash, too. What about more signs? Like “welcome to alki beach! Pick up after yourself!” I’d suggest putting it right under the traffic lights as you get off the bridge.

  • transplantella May 14, 2012 (2:40 am)

    Most of them barreled down our street all day long today, honking and blaring on their way to trash out Alki.

    Beautiful day–why does this imply trash, road rage, blaring stereos, motorcycle gangs, unpeacefullness and garbage?

    America is country with such strange habits. :-/

  • WSLady May 14, 2012 (3:02 am)

    the picture doesn’t show the trash in the can before the birds or wind blew it out. I do not like liter at all but I think too many people commenting have far fetched ideas. Let people come and enjoy our beach! After being born and raised here in west Seattle most people going to Alki ARE from around here. People stop judging others so much and take a hard look at yourself.

  • Rick May 14, 2012 (3:58 am)

    Somebodys Mama didn’t raise ’em right.

  • WTF May 14, 2012 (5:05 am)

    If this city continues to allow these POS to sit on the beach and take over the picnic areas drinking beer, dropping drugs, swearing, grabby their crotch, spitting, harassing people…so everyone can see how “bad” they are, more of them will come. Oh wait! That’s already happened. I’m so perlexed why this city doesn’t ever learn from its mistakes and allows history to repeat itself. Is it truly going to take someone being murdered to do something?! Police need to be present and visible; DAILY. I’m so tired of excuses being made for this vermin I could scream!

  • Jtk May 14, 2012 (7:44 am)

    I just spent the weekend Moored at Blake Island. When I went to land for a bonfire Saturday Evening, and was leaving, everyone picked up everything they had brought. FOOD went in ONE closed container, trash was PACK IN; PACK OUT. meaning… Everything – EVERYTHING you bring in… you take back out with you… everything!!!… that put an end to these pictures above… I know at Blake Island, they GIVE you a numbered trash can, and if you don’t pick up you are ticketed. Maybe more civil people hang out over there… this is terrible… .. and VERY VERY sad…

  • Rob May 14, 2012 (8:20 am)

    All of us local beach dudes that hang out all winter together then have to deal with the warm weather worms have been thinking of selling “Local Only” T Shirts or “Alki Local” or “Get off our beach!” Shirts and all wear them on these days that bring trash and their trash to the beach… Anyone interested? :)
    As also said above, we need to be more vocal and call out these people that act like animals. I have NO problem telling people how to throw away their crap. The ones that just treat our beach like trash ARE trash and should be treated like trash. I see and hear it all too much.

  • RG May 14, 2012 (8:53 am)

    Last year, on this same topic, someone mentioned possible attitudes of the litterers. I don’t remember the exact wording but it was something like this: So what, let the rich people who live here pick it up. I thought that there was truth in that.
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    My first suggestion to help solve this problem is photographic signage. Photos of beach wrack of course but also photos of what happens to creatures that are killed or harmed by something so simple as a plastic bag or a cigarette butt. This-is-what-happens-to-beach-litter kind of photographs. They could be posted on garbage cans or whereever. It is eye-opening to see a cute little marine mammal needlessing suffering.
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    I think it could shame some people to take more responsibility for their debris; they would look like an uncool fool to litter that Red Bull 4-pack plastic ring.
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    The photos can be as graphic or as educational as people deem appropriate and we wouldn’t have to have signs as big as the Great Garbage Patch, but just so people can know that when you throw something away, there is really no such place as “away”.
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    PS I can guarantee you that the people who come to Alki to “recreate” have no clue what the beach looks like the next morning.

  • CB May 14, 2012 (9:12 am)

    Trashy gonna trash.

  • KT May 14, 2012 (9:22 am)

    So, is our West Seattle residing City Council member going to lean on the city to address the littering and continual lack of police visibility harming this neighborhood?

  • Doris May 14, 2012 (9:28 am)

    Jtk it’s true- for the most part the scum that descends on alki aren’t clever enough to acquire boats, or find blake if they do.

  • WSratsinacage May 14, 2012 (9:50 am)

    ditto wtf

  • Nick May 14, 2012 (10:26 am)

    The real problem is that we have the same amount of police as we did in the 80’s. I’m talking cops in the streets. Not forensics/detectives/CSI, etc. That’s the kind of stuff people want to get into nowadays, which is great. But we need more police actually on the streets. SPD had 20+ openings this year but couldn’t fill them because of budget restraints.

  • David Hutchinson May 14, 2012 (10:35 am)

    WSLady,
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    Can’t comment on where all the folks visiting the beach this past weekend live, but I guarantee you that all the trash seen in my photos was not in the cans and later removed by wind and birds. Yes, the crows & gulls do take advantage of the situation, and scatter the loose trash around looking for food. However, the cans shown were full and people simply stacked their refuse on top or piled it around the base of the can. This was happening on a smaller scale on Sunday by 4 PM. Many people would not walk to a nearby can that had room or to one of the 8 virtually empty dumpsters located from the Alki Bathhouse to 56th Ave.
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    My wife and I have lived for years across Alki Ave from the beach and this situation is a regular occurrence following warm days. Its particularly bad on nice spring days before Parks has all their summer staff on duty.

  • Andy May 14, 2012 (11:29 am)

    I work on Alki and dread warm weather and sun because of the pain that comes with it. Alki has gotten out of control ..

  • WS Resident May 14, 2012 (1:09 pm)

    people are dirty and gross in ALL parks and beaches. Yesterday I was in a nice park near the I-90 bike tunnel and there was dirty tissue from a port-a-potty on the playground equipment! I gathered my kids up and left.

  • ohthehorror May 14, 2012 (4:59 pm)

    @RG – I don’t think the people trashing Alki are the least bit concerned about the effects of their actions on others, wildlife or human.

    @JanS – I agree with you to a certain extent, but based on the completely out-of-control behavior I see from packs of kids walking home from Madison, I don’t know if I’d call them out unless I was armed. I have considered picking up the trash from my yard, following them home and dumping it in their yards with a note to the parents, but I figure these are the types of parents who believe that their little miracles are just expressing themselves through littering.

  • Krystal May 14, 2012 (8:55 pm)

    There are way too many people in this world. Birth control is a gift!

  • M. May 14, 2012 (9:29 pm)

    Agree with the first comment, it’s okay to ask those you see littering to please pick up and dispose of the trash.
    Where are the SPD foot patrols?

  • Charlie May 14, 2012 (9:44 pm)

    Alki has been the site for litterbugs for many years. This is not a new phenomenon.

    http://blog.seattlepi.com/thebigblog/2010/09/01/p-i-archive-alki-beach-in-1910/

    That said, it would be wonderful if more people felt responsible for the trash they leave behind.

  • bob May 15, 2012 (8:21 am)

    the mayor is to busy building bike trails and re-paving the old ones to bother with a little trash on the beach after all you can’t ride your bike without paved trails . just post free doughnuts for every arrest for littering and watch the action..

  • JoAnne May 15, 2012 (9:09 am)

    Most citizen of this community (and the entire US, really) believe strongly that people are responsible for their own litter. There are fines for this behavior.
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    It is a moral responsibility of all people using the parks to clean up after themselves. Perhaps we need to re-run those public awareness ads from the 1960s and 1970s.
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    Maybe someone can set up a video recorder and publicly post pictures of those littering. There should be at least some sense of shame felt by people who litter. It seems clear we either cannot or will not enforce existing litter laws.

  • West Seattle Sun May 15, 2012 (10:47 am)

    The pictures show overflowing trash and recycling cans that need to be emptied during the course of the day. I am pretty sure the crows and seagulls have also contributed to the spill over image. Maybe more cans could be placed closer to the picnic tables to increase the refuse capacity?

    The weekend draws higher levels of visitor from near and far. No judgments nor territorial comments about others visiting and disrespecting Alki beach or any other beach on Earth-will solve the problem.

    It’s peak season and the public use of all beaches/parks/campgroungs needs to be managed with thoughtful action versus complaining.

  • JN May 15, 2012 (11:35 am)

    @bob, trail maintenance and construction is totally separate from garbage pickup and police patrols. Obviously you have some sort of axe to grind, please stop. I think that this trash issue is more reflective of how the people who frequent Alki view it, and apparently they view Alki as their own personal trash dump. Seriously though, can we get some police down there to start churning out the tickets, or what?

  • David Hutchinson May 15, 2012 (11:49 am)

    West Seattle Sun,
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    Good comments. Please note though, that there are plenty of cans and dumpsters near the existing picnic tables. The regular cans do fill up, but visitors have an adequate choice of a number of larger cans – these extend down into the ground – and the large dumpsters. These are never overflowing and folks just need to be willing to make the extra effort to walk the short distance. The issue of adequate capacity does not even address other problems such as groups around the fire rings who simply walk away late in the evening, leaving their refuse behind.
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    I think the practical solution to the problem will only come through a combination of public awareness, community/volunteer involvement, and more strict enforcement of existing park regulations.
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    Thoughtful complaints directed to the appropriate person/agency can result in corrective actions.

  • tom smith May 15, 2012 (12:04 pm)

    It looks like more and bigger garbage cans are needed and a lot of the times the seagulls, crows cause havoc picking through the trash looking for scraps so perhaps a “dumpster” with a lid that people could dispose of the trash. Which creates another problem of people using public garbage cans for throwing away their garbage a from home.

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