What if he's right?

[Smitty]

“Find something in the internet that supports their biases, and then spread it around virally without doing any research to determine the veracity of the article. Then when anyone points out the truth the defense is almost always, “well, I don’t believe that.””

Sincerely,

Dailykos, DU, and the smirkingchimp.

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[dawsonct]

And if someone went only to those sites and printed whatever they found there, verbatim, without comment or substantial factual backing from other sources, I would view their assertions with similar scepticism.

I hope you do also, smitty.

Now lets go bust up some wedges of sidewalk hogs.

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[JoB]

Smitty..

i don’t read dailykos, DU or smirkingchimp.

I read dailykos for a while and found it too incendiary for me… so i wouldn’t know if it was more often factual or not. shockjock journalism… in and of itself… is no more acceptable when it is liberal in nature than when it is conservative…

the point is that if more people questioned what they heard.. even if they agreed with it… the demand for factual reporting would increase.

it’s a win win situation. an informed opinion is always more accurate than simply repeating the latest gossip…

when you have to lie to make your point.. you turn every story into petty gossip at best… and malicious gossip at worst.

if people went a step further and read the opposition.. they would be far better informed citizens and might be able to tell for themselves when they were being lied to…

fool me once.. shame on you

fool me twice.. shame on me

no matter which side of the political fence you think you sit on … isn’t it time to stop being fooled..?

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[CarolPB]

JoB-Just meant I love your politics and your smarts.

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[JoB]

Thanks CarolPB…

hubby wrote this today on facebook…

i’m prejudiced.. but i really like the way he said this… it’s good to have someone in your life who so often focuses your thinking for you..

“the more important fact for progressives to get exercised about: we really need to understand that both the democrats and republicans are corporate/capitalist parties, and that we should not expect them to act like anything else.

I am not convinced that electoral politics offers any way out of this, since the electoral system is entirely rigged against even the possibility of an independent party. Money determines the outcome of elections, and elections are becoming more and more expensive since most of the money goes to television advertising (with the revenues winding up in the hands of companies like GE, naturally).

It may be that the only way out will come when the current crises become genuine ‘crises of capitalism’ (if that isn’t already the case), and mass resistance becomes the only recourse (as in Greece today). “

The current state of politics won’t change until members of both parties realize we are all being sold a bill of goods that is not in our best interests.

Unfortunately.. the odds are in “their” favor as long as “they” can keep us from thinking for ourselves. It really is “us and them”.. but “us and them” has nothing to do with the political party you choose to support. The republicans are currently much better at at the game of distraction.. of keeping their supporters from actually thinking through some of those slogans they repeat… but the democrats have learned a great deal from them and are not far behind in the great American con job game.

Given the choice between helping neighbors and enriching the bottom of line of the uber wealthy.. the top 1%… even conservatives will choose their neighbors… but given a choice between the welfare state and a free market… the choice becomes far less clear. One is the smoke screen our politicians are selling us for the other… but most people will never figure that out.

Our military is currently deployed in 116 countries… we are not keeping peace.. we are ensuring economic stability for American corporations who have increasingly moved their businesses and their jobs overseas.

Any historian could tell you that global imperialism always fails… it is simply a matter of time till corporate greed topples this incredible experiment in democracy unless we the people wake up and just say no.

and in case anyone hasn’t been paying attention.. the latest think tank solution to cutting the military budget has nothing to do with cutting the two to one ratio of private contractors to active military or removing American troops from any one of those 116 postings… those brilliant minds who are running our country think that cutting medical benefits to vets is the answer:(

We all need to wake up and we need to wake up now.

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[charlabob]

Congratulations to the teabaggers* who successfully dethroned that disgusting liberal senator Utah Republican Bob Bennett to replace him with two righter wingers who have to run in a runoff because they couldn’t converge on one. I’ll be happier when I find that even Utah knows better than to elect either of them.

*National Review outed the fact that the teabaggers did, in fact, call themselves that before they realized it had other meanings. So this leftist hereby returns to her defense of her first amendment right to call people what they call themselves — even if it embarasses them.

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[Smitty]

I guess I don’t “get” why the Left loves to call them “teabaggers”? Isn’t it a demeaning term used to describe a sex act performed primarily by a group that votes 95% Democrat? It’s kind of slamming them, isn’t it(not that there’s anything wrong with that, Jerry)?

Do they think it will cause people to be embarrassed by the term and therefore reluctant to join? Whether they originally called themselves that or not seems irrelevant.

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[JanS]

Hey, Smitty…too bad. As someone who leans a bit left of center, I’ve been called things too..and not because I call myself that. Do I feel a lack of respect when I use the term “teabaggers”? No, I feel a lack of respect for them because they hide behind a dishonest label.

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[Smitty]

I’m not complaining, just trying to figure it out. Do people using it think it will discredit the movement somehow or keep people from “joining” them? It’s demeaning to a group(homosexual males) that primarily votes Democrat more than it is a slam at the Tea Party – that’s the part that confuses me, I guess.

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[JoB]

smitty..

i call myself an old hippie… even tho i know that to many people that is a derogatory term.

since i call myself that i promise not to get my panties in a bunch if you call me an old hippie.

i won’t even get my panties in a bunch if all of the west seattle blog relabels me an old hippie…

i know exactly what i mean when i call myself an old hippy and to me it’s a good thing.

People in the teabag movement called themselves teabaggers. I can’t be certain.. maybe they were just setting us all us to look bad.. but i am pretty sure they just meant to refer to someone in the tea bag movement.

When i call them teabaggers the only thing i am referring to is their political affiliation…

anything anyone else thinks i am calling them exists only in their own little dirty minds.

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[Ken]

I did not make it up. My sister (a research scientist in the bio sciences) first used the term in my hearing back in 1972 when discussing the election results with the redneck next door.

Now, thanks to the publicity of the syndrome in the early part of the 21st century (and several prominent republican sufferers) , we have a foundation dedicated to saving the rest of us from this terrible disease, and mitigating the harm patients can do to themselves.

Won’t you please contribute time, money or satire to the cause?

National R-CIS Foundation of America:

A Strong Foundation Pushing for a Cure.

http://www.r-cis.netfirms.com/index.htm

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[Ken]

For Smitty:

Those are freepers with those signs.

http://washingtonindependent.com/69660/correcting-jay-nordlinger

http://washingtonindependent.com/31868/scenes-from-the-new-american-tea-party

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[anonyme]

I believe the original term was Tea Partier, after the original Boston Tea Party. It became Teabagger later, a far more accurate title.

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[charlabob]

Trust me — it’s not an insult to gay folks. Though it’s always nice of repubs to look out for “them”.

Thanks for the link, Ken — I’ve been looking for it but couldn’t find it; probably because I was using the correct spelling of teabag. :-)

No more ms. nice guy.

c

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[Ken]

I never thought DailyKos was incendiary. At least no more so than my friends and neighbors who post there. Several are West Seattle residents who read this blog occasionally. Seattle is home to some amazing writers and several of them are regulars at DK.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/5/9/865026/-From-the-Sea-of-Cortez

DK has a rather open policy concerning what is allowed, and it is self policing rather than authoritarian, but links and supporting evidence are demanded by the membership no matter who makes a claim or pronouncement.

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[JoB]

ken..

thanks for the link..,the only thing i ever saw on dailkos were the links to political stories.. some of which i thought a bit incendiary…thanks to your link they may have gained a new reader.

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