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  • #586967

    beachdrivegirl
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    So I have been so caught up in the polics of the primary it completly slipped my mind that there is another big election this year! The election of Washington States Governor. So for those who lived in Washington state and remember the race last time around. What are your thoughts on what will happen in 2008?

    #624565

    celeste17
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    I am for one tired of the current Governor. Everytime we turn around she is raising the taxes for some pet project she has going on. We have lived in our house for over 40 years (my parents anyway) and this year our property taxes are almost 4,000. My Mom is on a fixed income SS and retirement and fortunately she has some investments that she can draw on to pay for the taxes but there in no cap insight. I am prepared to vote here out and try Mr. Rossi.

    #624566

    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Can you back that up with any source? A 2007 policy brief says Washington state pays less taxes than 35 other states.

    http://www.budgetandpolicy.org/documents/lowtax.pdf

    I’m looking for a list of tax increases that the Governor has approved and haven’t found it yet. When some one does, please post. And what are her *pet* projects you disapprove of? I find it hard to agree or disagree with such a generic comment.

    #624567

    Trick
    Participant

    *Bump*

    Did anyone catch this?

    If you did, do you find it disturbing that Rossi is making a public endorsement from the Police guild and the camera man is ushered away by off duty police, and then told he was “acting suspicious” and threatened with being arrested? It’s not the first time either the Rossi camp has done this.

    Personally, I find it disturbing, and not a good sign of things to come if his campaign is afraid of being videotaped at speaking events while running for a public office.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs0gfs2ZX5w

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/video.html

    #624568

    beachdrivegirl
    Participant

    I didnt make to big of a deal about that. i dont think it is. There are many other things i am finding interesting about this race, but still not sure who i will vote for come November. i am not blown away by Gregoire, but not extremely disappointed either…

    #624569

    charlabob
    Participant

    It is a typical repug tactic, JT — Rossi even made fun of the fact that Gregoire “allows” Repugs to film her in public space. Rossi is a conservative republican, running as a GOPer so no one will notice. He’s in the pocket of the building industry (BIAW) and Rovian tricks can be expected, subsidized by them.

    BDG, trying to control access to public space, using the police as your private army, should be a big deal to all of us.

    #624570

    Magpie
    Participant

    Celeste17, did you know there are property tax breaks for those on fixed incomes? (there is an income cutoff)..maybe you should check in to it for your mom as she might be able to get a break. I’m not thrilled about either one of them, but I truly don’t believe that Dino will be better for me than Gregoire. Something says slimey to me about that guy…I think we need to look at where they both stand on the viaduct replacement. It is a state road.

    #624571

    beachdrivegirl
    Participant

    I guess we are looking @ the issue in two different lights Charlabob. I see it as this was a private event that was being secured by off-duty police officers. Akers was asked to leave and he chose to ignore the request so got escorted away. For example, would people have an issue, if someone was holding a wedding reception @ a public place lets say the city hall. (I know more of a small town thing but still could happen. :) ) Lets also say that the wedding party feels that some unwanted guests could attempt to show up so they hire off-duty police officers for security of their wild and crazy private reception at the public city hall. So when these unwanted guests come to the wedding reception and the off-duty officers ask them to leave but they dont leave so the off duty officers escort them off the premises would this be an issue?? woudl this make me guilty of using the police as my public army? Personally, I am not offended by this situation.

    #624572

    charlabob
    Participant

    If you read the entire article, they follow the same tactic in public spaces, though that seems to be a matter of overenthusiastic “volunteers.” Don’t you wonder what he has to hide? I can absolutely guarantee you there will be recording of all Rossi events, now that this tactic is known :-)

    “One of those videos shows a cameraman — not Akers — at a public park in Wenatchee trying to tape a Rossi event taking place in a roped-off area. Several people affiliated with the organizers, the state and local farming groups tell him he cannot tape the event, even from outside the roped-off area, and then tell him he is not allowed to stand there, either.”

    #624573

    Trick
    Participant

    Thanks charlabob,

    It was the 2nd incident mentioned in the times I see to be a pattern.

    While other TV crews are there, why would the candidate be so hostile towards someone taping it for what it’s worth?

    After living through this GOP administration and how they brilliantly try to selectively censor information really gets under my skin and should be a cause for concern.

    #624574

    Zenguy
    Participant

    My problem with Rossi is that he is not willing to publicly discuss any controvercial topics. Whenever he is asked about abortion, gays and lesbians or gun control he claims he is not running on those issues.

    http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/372945_rossi31.html

    Does that mean if the topics come up in the legislature that he will not weigh in on them because he did not run on them? Does that mean he will not veto bills that he disagrees with that deal with these topics? My guess is no, he just does not want to alienate voters with he right wing, conservative views that he knows would kill his chances of winning.

    #624575

    andrea
    Participant

    Rossi comes off as a smarmy used car salesman in his campaign ads, and he just plain weirds me out. And as Charla noted, he’s a conservative republican (!), two words that I can guarantee will never apply to me…Gregiore is by far the more relatable candidate in my opinion.

    #624576

    Ken
    Participant

    http://www.metrokc.gov/Assessor/News/HOW_DOES_WASHINGTON_STATE.pdf

    WA state (Seattle) rates 43rd, lowest of areas with a major city.

    Compare property tax rates with other states. Keep in mind that almost all of these states have a state income tax.

    Also note that those of us in West Seattle are victims of the free market rather than anything the Governor has anything to do with.

    My property assessment, not the tax, has gone up 60k each year since 1998.

    If you blame the Governor, you really should turn in your voters registration card.

    The recto-cranial inversion epidemic among local republicans is really a sad thing to watch.

    However… re the video. it could have been edited better to make a point. It went on to show the cameraman was an idiot and did not understand the trespassing warning he got or how investigative procedure works. Those of us who protest and demonstrate in Seattle know full well how to walk the edge of the law in WA and make the police work for you. The guild certainly know how as well.

    Seattle police have often been the ones protecting demonstrators from those who don’t understand the difference between public and private property. I particularly enjoyed watching one explain the difference to a Westlake rent a cop several years ago.

    #624577

    JoB
    Participant

    change, in and of itself, is not necessarily a good thing..

    especially a change which makes government and government officials less instead of more accessible to the people.

    #624578

    RonM
    Participant

    You do mean RE-ELECT Rossi, don’t you? Haven’t made up my mind yet…

    #624579

    JoB
    Participant

    Sorry ronM..

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    count was in.

    if we have to accept the two george counts, you have to accept the gregorie count…

    sometimes you just can’t get everything.

    personally i would have given you Rossi rather than had george.

    #624580

    RonM
    Participant

    Count? Three of them! That’s just how the Democrats work when they control the election board. Keep counting until you get a result you like…

    #624581

    charlabob
    Participant

    Funny, Ron — except three Repubs concurred with the count or saw no probable cause to challenge: King County Attorney, Norm Maling, Secretary of State Sam Reed, and (fired for it) Federal Prosecutor. John McKay. Or are they all Democratic Plants?

    #624582

    RonM
    Participant

    You mean to say that Republicans are all crooks too? My, my…

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