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May 19, 2009 at 2:50 am #666968
MargLMemberEmergency vehicle sirens are exempt from the Seattle Noise Control Ordinance at all times –
May 19, 2009 at 3:38 am #666969
sam-cParticipantI do understand the original point. I heard the sirens at 4am. (they didn’t wake me up, they only infiltrated and became part of the dream I was having). they did wake up someone else, who in turn woke me up. then shortly following, I heard a helicopter heading in that direction.
I too thought they were exceptionally loud, compared to other sirens I’ve heard at night-time. and to find out that the sirens were on Sylvan way, I’m surprised, ’cause that’s about a mile away, and I’m not on a main drag on the way there.
Also, I’ve been up for my own insomnia reasons. While up, I’ve seen a fire truck coming down my street, with lights on, but no siren. So, it seems like there may be scenarios when they turn the siren down.
maybe the sound level depends on the situation, or whoever is driving the truck.
I think that waking up at night is one of the prices you have to pay for living in a city and having city services that are very necessary.
May 19, 2009 at 6:13 am #666970
WSBKeymasterI nominate MargL for “answer person.” Thanks for looking it up, I got sidetracked as often happens.
May 19, 2009 at 6:55 am #666971
austinMemberTraci I’m pretty sure that’s actually a Robot factory, based on the noises I know robots to make and the fact that the robots sometimes escape and harass my kitties.
May 19, 2009 at 7:46 am #666972
KevinParticipantA little trivia for everyone. I have had the need to call 911 on a couple of occasions over the years. We have always asked that they NOT run the siren.
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I have neighbors that have done the same thing. They (SFD) are generally pretty good about honoring the request for medical issues.
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Sometimes you don’t want to wake up the whole neighborhood.
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And did you know that while the lights and sirens are “FREE” for 911 calls, private ambulance services such as AMR will actually CHARGE EXTRA if they have to “light it up” as they call it, meaning you or your insurance company pay extra for the lights and siren.
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May 19, 2009 at 2:38 pm #666973
christopherboffoliParticipantI’d imagine that having to race to the scene of an emergency significantly increases the risk of accidents and endangers the ambulance crew and other drivers on the road. Despite that loud siren and all of those colored flashing lights people STILL do not see emergency vehicles in intersections. Some drivers will also panic and block the road or turn in unpredictable ways when an emergency vehicle approaches. A private company like AMR obviously does not have the deep pockets that a county or city would have to cover the extra liability.
May 19, 2009 at 5:01 pm #666974
JoBParticipantIf the emergency is at yours and is the kind of emergency where a few seconds could make the difference between life and death.. do you want them to be considerate of your neighbors and drive more slowly so they can avoid using the sirens to warn pedestrians and drivers that they are coming through? probably not.
When your emergency is not quite so immediate… asking them not to use sirens is the considerate and apparently thrifty thing to do. Thanks Kevin for letting us know we have that option.
May 26, 2009 at 11:33 pm #666975
tsunaminwMemberI would like to see tickets issued to ignorant people who think that while living in the city limits they are entitled to a silent night after choosing to leave a window open. I lived downtown and had sirens 2-4 times a night, and regardless of my sleep it comes with the territory. Those people are going to save a life or a home, and the sirens warn others no matter how few on the road that they are coming, it allows them to get to the destination safer, and faster.
You people need to get a life, if that is the extent of your problems, you have no problems except being a whiny busybody with too much time on your hands.
May 27, 2009 at 3:08 am #666976
CaitParticipantLOL Tsunami, I agree. I used to live on “Pill Hill” so I guess I’m desensitized. And as someone who rather recently lit her stove on fire I was glad to hear those sirens! Once you can hear them and know they’re close you can quit gathering up your cats, fumbling around for your birth certificate and screaming at your boyfriend on the phone about leaving plastic bowls in the oven.
May 27, 2009 at 3:10 am #666977
CaitParticipantAnd a little SAT throwback for old times sake:
whiny busybodies : WSB forums about noise :: sirens : the city.
They happen, it’s annoying, but it’s all part of the great place we call home. KUMBAYA!
May 27, 2009 at 4:47 am #666978
nuniMembertsunami, you don’t know me so please keep your insults to yourself. Thanks.
May 27, 2009 at 5:52 am #666979
nuniMemberFirst of all, somebody else even thought the sirens were much louder than normal. It wasn’t just me that heard them and thought they were really loud.
Second of all, there are always cops/ambulances/fire trucks driving up my street considering I live across from and right next to an old folks home and the police department right down the street so I am no stranger to sirens what so ever. In this case the siren was exceptionally loud and I thought it was unnecessary considering it was like that the entire way, so unless somebody was being a complete jerk and not letting the ambulance/fire truck/cop by for at least 1/2 a mile (which I don’t see that as happening) I didn’t really think there was a reason for it to be THAT loud at 4am. That is my personal opinion and if that makes me ignorant then so be it. I don’t agree, but that is your opinion. And yes I am going to get snippy when people who don’t even know me are insulting me.
This is the last I’m going to comment on this topic.
May 27, 2009 at 6:45 am #666980
tsunaminwMemberI like how you focus on the one who agreed and ignored the multiple ones who didn’t, selective hearing/reading. You have alot of time on your hands, and if experience is correct karma has a way of giving people something real to complain about just to show them that they didnt really have anything before.
“This is the last I’m going to comment on this topic.”
(At least now some of us have something to “Rave” about.)
May 27, 2009 at 6:55 am #666981
JanSParticipantI live within walking distance of 4 senior citizen retirement/nursing facilities and one disabled housing group type home. We have lots of sirens at all hours, even an automatic alarm from the group home. Does it wake me up? Yes. Do I think I;m being harrassed? Absolutely not. It is what it is…I put a pillow over my head and go back to sleep. We all react in different ways, but there really IS a reason for those sirens.It could be someone’s life on the line. I suppose it’s all in how you look at it…
May 27, 2009 at 7:15 am #666982
TrickParticipantI’ll take sirens over all this ranting anyday.
Keep it down, I’m trying to sleep over here.
May 27, 2009 at 2:59 pm #666983
BonnieParticipantI wish my kids would stop waking me up in the middle of the night!
Seriously Nuni, sorry you were woken up. It’s annoying but a necessary annoyance. Also, keep in mind that when you post to this forum you might not always get the responses you want. I’ve been there. LOL!
May 27, 2009 at 3:27 pm #666984
B-squaredParticipantEarplugs. Seriously.
May 27, 2009 at 9:51 pm #666985
Dalamar437MemberThe original poster simply asked if having loud sirens were necessary and expressed sleepy frustration that resulted from the noise. Many people seem to think they’re necessary and some don’t think they are under certain circumstances. What is out of line is how over-the-top and personal some people seem to be taking this post. What’s ignorant is the presumption that someone’s frustration with being abruptly awoken and bothered is somehow not ok? My understanding is that being upset about something is the entire point of a rant? People are welcome to agree and disagree with it. I don’t think being asked to remain civil is an absurd request.
If people want to interpret this post to somehow mean that people are insensitive to someone having a medical emergency then I suggest they start their own rant to talk about insensitive people. At least this post would remain on topic.
Publicly stating an opinion or frustration doesn’t mean you have too much time on your hands. It doesn’t mean you’re self centered and shockingly… It doesn’t mean you’re insane! It just means you’re human.
May 27, 2009 at 9:57 pm #666986
tsunaminwMemberAnyone can rant, and the Reply button is for those who disagree and think they should get a life.
And yes, wanting sirens to be turned off because you choose to have your window open and then cant sleep, while someone is in need of immediate emergency care is insane and self centered. And they can always find a few others who agree and think it is reasonable.
Most, don’t.
May 27, 2009 at 9:57 pm #666987
JanSParticipantto the posters like tsunaminw…nuni is far from crazy. I may disagree with her, but that’s my prerogative. The personal crap on here is uncalled for. Who are you to judge this person, or any of us. I suggest we all look in the mirror, and when we find perfection, then maybe we can unload on another person on here.
Having been on the receiving end, I totally understand where you’re coming from, Nuni.
May 27, 2009 at 10:26 pm #666988
WSBKeymasterTsunami, if you don’t want to follow the rules of our site, your posts will be removed. Simple as that. Seems like you have some important things to say but there is no need to say them insultingly. Lots of places online where they don’t have these rules — but we are proud to be a site where people can disagree and discuss WITHOUT getting singed in the process.
May 27, 2009 at 10:37 pm #666989
tsunaminwMemberI will do my best to not use the word crazy, but will continue to disagree when someone is unreasonable.
May 27, 2009 at 10:56 pm #666990
WSBKeymasterThank you. Here’s our nutshell rule explanation:
It’s OK to tell me my rules are idiotic.
It’s not OK to call me an idiot or say I am idiotic.
Very fine line. But that’s where we draw it. Criticize, critique, disagree with, agree with, applaud, whatever, the ideas … not the person who voiced them.
June 2, 2009 at 11:46 pm #666991
arborheightsdadParticipantNuni,
Sorry you were awakened by the sirens. Perhaps it SEEMED louder than normal because of the hour and the fact that you were startled awake.
I have a feeling that you would want aid crews responding with all their lights and sirens if you were in need of assistance, regardless of the hour. I know I would.
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