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May 19, 2010 at 2:47 pm #694736
CarsonParticipantBebecat, I don’t think anyone planned anything on any Private Property. You don’t own those few feet between the sidewalk and the street. As a matter of fact, you don’t own the 3 feet on YOUR side of the sidewalk on most city plots as well. I am not sure I would condone a massive poop in, but nothing wrong with a little dog parade.
May 19, 2010 at 3:35 pm #694737
bebecatMemberI will admit I thought we owned the strip between the street and sidewalk when I was growing up, as my parents lovingly care for the strip the same way they did our yard. I learned otherwise as an adult. I was also taught to not walk on or ride my bike on neighbors “strips”. Drive ways “yes” strips “no”. To this day I am compelled to respect other peoples property. I care for my own and respect others. As for the dog parade?… I will not ask the motivation.
May 19, 2010 at 3:46 pm #694738
CarsonParticipantbebecat, really? You think by allowing my dog to walk on your parking strip I am dis-respecting the property owner? Riding my bike perhaps. Me walking on, no. My dog walking on, no. Some people are just not meant to be city dwellers for sure.
May 19, 2010 at 3:54 pm #694739
flowerpetalMemberI agree that my dog peeing and/or pooping on a parking strip is not disrespectful if it is cleaned and it appears that the OP cleans up after his dog. But if a parade of ten dogs were to pass by and one pee’d I am guessing nine more would pee too. Its what dogs do.
I don’t get how a gathering of ten dog walkers would bring peace to the neighborhood; and would likely only escalate the bad vibes. I don’t want to make someone (even a cranky geezer) feel worse. I wouldn’t be unreasonable and cross the street either; but a parade of ten dogs and walkers changes nothing.
May 19, 2010 at 4:02 pm #694740
CarsonParticipantFlowerpetal, you are right. But if someone were to yell at me when I am in fact doing nothing wrong, I would tend to do it more and more. But thats just me, I don’t take intimidation and thgreats well. It helps that I never go anywhere without my tough as nails Wheaten!!
May 19, 2010 at 4:12 pm #694741
bebecatMemberNo Carson I am not thinking you are being dis-respectful by using the parking strip, as I said I am an adult now and understand the legal bounderies. My friend has a raised garden bed on her parking strip. Nice spinach and such. Now a dog pottying on the garden may be legal “yes” but cool “no”. I am just saying we as a people will never all view things the same way. And as for the “not meant to be city dwellers” I was born in Seattle when it was a small town. Many of the ‘old geezers”?, this is our hometown, we didn’t know it would grow this big. It can be a bit stressful at times.
May 19, 2010 at 4:39 pm #694742
KBearParticipant“I was born in Seattle when it was a small town”
Wow, you must be over 100 years old! Even in 1910, there were over 200,000 people living in Seattle. Not exactly a small town even by today’s standards.
May 19, 2010 at 5:31 pm #694743
JoBParticipantKBear..
in the 50’s Seattle looked and acted like a small town… in fact.. it still did when i first visited in the late 60s.. and to some of the old timers here it still is:)
You may not have been familiar to the folks on the other side of the bay not that long ago.. but i am guessing you couldn’t do much in West Seattle without all of your neighbors knowing and commenting.
like bebecat i miss the days when kids and adults alike were expected to have some respect for others…
you can call those property rights if you want.. but i think they had more to do with treating others and their homes the way you would want yours to be treated.
now there seems to be a mixed message when it comes to personal rights..
on the one hand, most people seem to think others should respect their rights no matter where they are… and… they think their rights trump all others even at someone else’s home.
it really isn’t all about us some days even when we choose to take things personally.
it sounds to me like someone had a bad day.. it may or may not have had anything to do with dogs peeing and pooping on his front lawn. his pent up frustration vented on the nearest target.. a responsible dog owner.
If you have never ever vented your pent up frustration at someone who didn’t deserve that full fury then by all means join up to torment that man… but even then you might ask yourself if that is the kind of reaction you will want to your bad day when it happens.. because sooner or later we all vent on someone who didn’t really deserve it.
May 19, 2010 at 7:13 pm #694744
KBearParticipant“in the 50’s Seattle looked and acted like a small town…”
Um, no. I’m not old enough to have been here in the 50’s, but I grew up in a town of less than 10,000. I KNOW what a small town is like. Just because you know your neighbors’ business doesn’t make it “like a small town.” I suppose I would accept that West Seattle is (or once was) more like a small town than Seattle as a whole. But there isn’t anyone alive today who remembers when Seattle “was a small town.”
May 19, 2010 at 7:51 pm #694745
Pug DaddyMemberbebecat, as a person who has been a homeowner I can appreciate your position and experience with your flowerbed, I too have had my fair share of noisy dogs, owners who don’t clean up after their dogs, and pets running around unattended. Sure it’s annoying and I know because of these experiences that if I wanted to keep particular items in my yard protected I would do just that, fence them or provide some other barrier. Protecting our property in a reasonable manner is well within all of our rights, but a logical effort has to be made on the owners part. Planting gardens or attempting to protect items adjacent to a public space without proper protection is a tough battle to fight.
To be clear, the point of my posting was to bring attention to inappropriate boundries/actions that are being presented to people out in public and I’m afraid are the beginnings of something more dangerous. Not only to the pet owners, but also the “attackers”, and the pets. What if one of these homeowner physically pursues a dog owner and the dog is frightened and attacks? How important is a dog pooping in the parking strip when someone is hurt and a dog has to be euthanized?
The same laws that we uphold to protect homeowners from allowing the public to abuse or damage their property are the same laws that this particular home owner doesn’t see the need to abide by. So I have to ask, what else is he capable of?
Already you can read about people trying to attack others pets with metal poles right in West Seattle, so it’s not that far from reality. Besides, does that seem like a reasonable response?
May 19, 2010 at 7:53 pm #694746
Pug DaddyMemberOh by the way, thanks for everyone taking the time to post their experiences and insights.
It’s nice to know that I live in a neighborhood that cares!
May 19, 2010 at 8:12 pm #694747
MousePotatoMemberI think I see a business opportunity here…. I think I’ll print up a couple hundred yard signs like my pic and sell them at the Sunday market….
Put one of these in your parking strip and you are GUARANTEED a poop free experience….
C’mon, poop happens….
May 19, 2010 at 8:21 pm #694748
KBearParticipantYeah, like “No Trespassing” signs keep burglars away from vacant houses.
May 19, 2010 at 8:26 pm #694749
MousePotatoMemberI’m a personal fan of the “no soliciting” signs that apparently do not refer to selling your religion….
May 19, 2010 at 11:57 pm #694750
sam-cParticipantno.. just take down your pesticide free lady-bug sign, and put in some fake pesticide / weed treatment warning signs. that might deter people more than the ‘no dog pooping’ sign.
we do have a neighbor dog that often got out, leash free, and peed on one of our plants so consistently that it died.
yes, I pick up our dog’s poop.
and like one of the other posters mentioned, if he starts to pee on a really nice plant at a well kept yard, we’ll stop him before he does and hurry along till we get to a light pole or something.
May 20, 2010 at 12:30 am #694751
CarsonParticipantI used to play golf on a course with homes on it. One homeowner got so fed up with golfers going into their yard they posted warning signs about heavy deer tick infestation. It did the trick. If the pesticide sign doesn’t work, cayenne pepper might. Just don’t do it on my block please, Carson likes it then drinks so much water he has to pee all night long.
May 20, 2010 at 4:06 am #694752
JanSParticipantobviously, not many people liked my facetious idea of a doggie walk meet-up. I suppose what I’d like to say is…if it’s one guy walking or 5 guys walking together, if they are just walking and being respectful, and law abiding, and cleaning up after their dogs, they should be able to expect a modicum of civility from people who live in the neighborhood. Surely no one on here is suggesting that people should no longer walk their dogs.
This guy, who may or may not have been having a bad day, stopped his vehicle in the oncoming lane, was about to get out and confront someone who was doing nothing wrong. What the hell is he gonna do if more than one person walks their dog past his house in, say, an hour. Does he finally really take it out on the last walker? Let’s hope not. I have people who walk their dogs, their children, their spouses, high school kids (noisy) past my property, both on the sidewalk, and in the alley behind. It’s their right. I may not like it, but I’m not going to have apoplexy about it and call them out.
Let’s stop feeling sorry for the guy who acted in a threatening manner to the OP, who was DOING NOTHING WRONG!
May 20, 2010 at 4:15 pm #694753
Pug DaddyMemberSam-c, how exactly are “fake pesticide / weed treatment warning signs” going to deter leash free dogs roaming the neighborhood? That solution only has the chance to deter the people walking the dog, besides if everyone did it where would you walk your dog?
Carson, I’m not sure if you think you’re being funny or what, but in my opinion it’s totally irresponsible. If you know you’d not like to have your dog get a face full of cayenne pepper what makes you think anybody else would? No dog deserves to get a cayenne pepper treatment. It’s inhumane.
Thank you JanS, that’s a good point.
May 20, 2010 at 4:33 pm #694754
CarsonParticipantActually the Cayenne pepper works very good, most dogs and cats avoid it, Carson is a bit more stubborn than most. I would consider it much more humane than letting your pet walk on my lawn after I have put down herbicide, that can actually kill your pet and MANY people do that. Just check out the lush green lawns for an example. The Cayenne solution is actually considered an organic and humane way to keep your lawn and garden animal free.
May 20, 2010 at 8:04 pm #694755
sam-cParticipantpug-daddy- chillax. it was in reference to the no dog pooping sign suggestion (post # 37). I don’t think an off leash dogs read that sort of sign sign either.
obviously the whole block isn’t likely to do that- at least hopefully an entire block wouldn’t be that passive aggressive to put up any type of signs (no pooping allowed or whatever) that would keep you from walking your dog.
and I wouldn’t actually use pesticide. the sign was a suggestion for the type of (not nice at all) person that would run out of their house and yell at you for taking your dog for a nice walk.
..speaking of- “where would they go?”
reminds me of Paris, where all the sidewalks were covered in these stencils. I forget exactly what they looked like, but the gist was basically that dogs had to go in the gutter/ street…
May 23, 2010 at 12:11 am #694756
LukesDogWalkerMemberI walk 2 85 lb dogs all over the place. I never leave for a walk without bags. I always pick up poo. Therefore I feel qualified to stick up for the people who express justifiable anger at irresponsible dog-owners who do not pick up poo. **it happens, but nothing is more gross or rude than leaving it there to offend everyone. I realize probably all dog owners on this blog are responsible, but what can we do about the ones who arent? It ticks me off as much as the crazy guy who blocks traffic and yells at innocent people. Of course, I don’t think he’s handling it well at all, and he needs to cut it out before he gets arrested or hurts someone. But how should it be handled? It really is a problem. I always have extra bags to offer the “hapless” who are caught without a bag and offer one in a friendly way. But I’ve witnessed plenty of offenders who seem to think their precious best friend (no matter big or small) makes poo that no one will mind seeing, smelling or even stepping in. Any peaceful, positive solutions come to mind?
May 23, 2010 at 2:06 am #694757
dufusMemberHow about a little business like card that says something snappy and sarcastic to get the point across… or a card with the legal requirements WACs or whatever on it, to hand out to offenders if you see them letting their pooch illegally dump.
May 23, 2010 at 2:47 am #694758
LukesDogWalkerMemberI have thought of using sidewalk chalk to circle the offending poo pile and write a sarcastic message calling them out next time they walk by. Not sure I’m brave enough to confront personally – besides, everybody already knows it’s against the law AND rude, right? What can we do when they don’t care and don’t fear a fine enforcement?
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