Dog waste denial

[redblack]

read it and weep, per seattle municipal code:

(sorry. you’ll have to google it. the clerk’s web site is a POS.)

21.36.440 – Unlawful use of solid waste container on private property.



It is unlawful for anyone not authorized by the property owner or occupant to deposit any material in any solid waste container on private property or on a sidewalk or a planting strip abutting private property.

now, can we end the discussion of whether or not you should do this? it’s codified, FFS.

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[mark47n]

I know…I’ve read it. That said, you’ll have to catch said scofflaw and then how do you enforce it w/o a cop on hand? Other things that are against the law: fireworks, running stop signs, jay walking, littering, to include cigarette butts, performing any sort of electrical or plumbing work without a permit or license(unless you are the homeowner) and the list goes on.

I’ll say it again: not one has said that this act, or any of the above acts are OK, but they are acts that are rarely enforced.

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[redblack]

but if those acts are generally un-okay, what kind of person says, “screw you, i’m doing it anyway, and i’ll go to great lengths to justify it?”

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[SniperKitty]

Off-leash dog owners?

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[NorthbyNorthWest]

sanc·ti·mo·ni·ous (adjective): making a show of being morally superior to other people. – Oxford Dictionary

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[JKB]

jack·ass (noun) one who persists in bad behavior despite knowing the standards by which it is wrong.

(2) one who benefits from the social customs that permit living in large groups such as cities, while flouting or denying the applicability of those customs to him/herself.

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[SniperKitty]

mor·al (adjective): Concerned with or derived from the code of interpersonal behavior that is considered right or acceptable in a particular society. – Oxford Dictionary

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[angelescrest]

So, immoral?

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[SniperKitty]

The moral definition was a response to the sanctimonious comment. JKB beat me to it with the awesome comment.

Yes, it is immoral to break the law and ignore the code of behavior that is considered acceptable by society. Selfish off-leash dog owners who disregard the feelings of others and put other animals and people at risk certainly qualify.

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[mark47n]

Again, I never justified or condoned the behavior in question, I questioned the almost hysterical response to it, something that none of you have actually addressed. Instead you’ve attacked me and not my argument. As to how much effort I’ve spent to “justify” the act in question, how much have you spent to refute it (the definitions are a nice touch)? I acknowledged, and knew already that not cleaning up after your dog was illegal, I stated, as did others, that picking said bag out of your trash can and flinging it into the street is also illegal. I stated that I have chastised others for not cleaning up after their dog and also acknowledged that I, alas, am not perfect and, when far from home or public spaces, have tossed a bag in someone’s trash can. Not one of you, has acknowledged any of those things, only that I believe the stated apoplectic reactions described herein are over the top.

Perhaps the next thread can be about cats pooping I my garden. That’s also codified in the lawbooks, try enforcing that! Additionally, they are permitted to wander at large. Which is unfortunate.

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[JoB]

LOL… either i should have stayed up or gotten up earlier ;-)

i had forgotten how much i like the term jackass

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[angelescrest]

The definitions, I believe, define the kind of people who break the rules that are made to keep us all safe and civil. Everything you’ve proposed/detailed seems right on; you’ve reached blog god in this posting, and thanks! Was the op over the top, “howling” about the crap she steps in/over/about every day? I could have ranted like that in the past. When we moved in, our neighbors set us up for poop ruination every day. I had to resort to surveillance to figure out why our carpets, shoes, backpacks were slathered in poop, and it turned out to be our next-door neighbor, too lazy to walk his dog, so he just let it out. Onto our lawn. To do its thing. Makes you a bit angry.

Sigh. Now it’s the habitual charging by off-leash dogs that is ruining my mornings. A bit.

Love your posts, mark.

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[redblack]

mark: i didn’t intend to attack you personally, and i apologize if my tone suggested it. i read and post to this thread with amusement, and i don’t think i’ve said anything i wouldn’t say to you if we were two strangers sitting at the bar at shadowland.

i don’t feel hysterical or apoplectic. it’s a debate, and obviously it’s contentious.

i also don’t believe that i’m morally superior. but i try to be situationally aware and refrain from doing things that piss other people off. is that sanctimonious? i prefer to think of it as polite and respectful.

yeah, i flung a poo bag into the street. i countered bad behavior with bad behavior, and i think a passing crow eventually solved the problem for us. it won’t happen again.

i’m sorry that there’s no loophole for walking your* dog to starbucks or bakery nouveau and lugging around an unfashionable blue baggie, or for walking your dog far from home. you’ll have to try to work within the law somehow, and not foist it on your neighbors, no matter how inconsequential or unenforceable you think the law is.

*your = plural, not you specifically, mark.

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[waynster]

Wait get get a paper bag, place said doggie poop in bag, place on porch light said paper bag on porch, ring door bell or knock as hard as you can, run run for your life, stop turn hide watch said person stomp on bag sending doggie poop all over the place…… you have just sent the doogie poop owner back their poop…….hehehehehe warning don’t drink or smoke too much prior to doing this uncontrollable laughter will give you away…..

http://www.gocomics.com/nonsequitur/2015/11/08

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[Northwest]

West Seattle or “Seattle” as its referred to by some now needs more public garbage cans maintained by recolocgy or similar refuse maintainence company. Is there a neighborhoods matching funds or city funds of some type available to get this going along California ave.?

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[SniperKitty]

I just took out my garbage and some jackass left their dog crap in my garbage container.

(In my best Liam Neeson voice) I don’t know who you are. I don’t know what you want. If you are looking for a place to properly dump your dog poo , I can tell you I don’t have it. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills; skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you stop flinging poo into my can, that’ll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don’t, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will tell you to clean it up.

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[wsea98116]

Mark – I’m pretty sure you made your point- that it is what it is, you can’t change people, there are worse poops, we should all do what you can, then relax and let it go- yes?

(Not trying to put words in your mouth, just trying to paraphrase..)

Fair advice- but, your posts are far more vigorous and determined, than amenable and relax-y. Do you ever follow your own advice? That people are jerks, and you gotta just- let it go, let it go!!

Well played, SniperNeeson!

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[Jeannie]

SniperLiam for the win! Kitty will take revenge on pooper scoundrels!

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[JoB]

i think you can change people .. or at least you can change their behavior

they do what they do because they can get away with it….too many people tell them it is ok…

it’s not ok

ok?

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