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June 19, 2009 at 12:47 am #591283
JiggersMemberIs it legal to just put up an advertisement of sort on a street pole whether it’s a lost dog, yard sale, or something happening at a local bar? There a too many of them and its creating rubbish all over the place. I’m going on a mission to tear all of them down. Unless it is a legal city notice, everything else is coming down.
June 19, 2009 at 2:10 am #670149
JanSParticipantyou may piss a few people off, as it’s legal…
http://www.seattlepi.com/local/81823_poster08.shtml
The “Do’s” of Postering
Posters can be hung without a permit – no permit fees are required.
Posters can be placed on utility poles, street light poles, and on traffic sign posts except that:
No posters are allowed on stop or yield sign posts or on the backs of those signs; Posters that share poles or posts with traffic signs cannot face the same direction as the traffic signs.
Include a printed posting date in the lower left corner of each poster;
Make your posters out of thin and flexible paper, cardboard, or plastic.
Poster size can be up to 24 inches vertical and 18 inches horizontal and, if hung on sign posts, limit the overhang to 6 inches on each side of the post;
Use tape, string, or staples [NO STAPLES–NOW ILLEGAL FOR SAFETY REASONS] not larger than 3/8 inch and 0.050 gauge to attach posters.
Packing tape on all 4 sides will help keep the poster up. Wheat paste is legal, but unkind.
Posters can be hung up to 7 feet from the ground on poles and posts.
Posters may be displayed for 30 days or until the date of any event advertised, whichever time comes first. The person or organization hanging the posters has a 10-day grace period to remove the posters.
June 19, 2009 at 4:46 am #670150
DianaParticipantJiggers, I’m with you on this. I don’t care if it’s legal or not to post them. I’m ripping them off when ever I see them. They are a blight.
June 19, 2009 at 6:11 am #670151
DianeParticipantYou do not have a right to remove flyers; this action violates right to public access, free speech, and networking within this community
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This is a violation of constitutional rights, and the city ordinance passed in 2002 that allows public postings on city-owned utility poles, lamp poles, and traffic control devices. This Seattle ordinance allowing public sign postings was passed after the Washington State Court of Appeals declared the prior Seattle ordinance banning public sign postings as violating our Washington State Constitution.
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Seattle Municipal Code, SMC 15.48.105 Conformance to applicable regulations for posting.
A. Handbills, signs and posters may be affixed to City-owned utility poles, lamp poles and traffic control devices under the control of the Seattle Department of Transportation And (1) members of the public are afforded reasonable access to exercise their free speech rights, including being able to place signs (Ord. 121038 Section 3, 2002.)
June 19, 2009 at 8:56 am #670152
HMC RichParticipantBack in the prior century, the fascist city council or mayor (I can’t remember which due to all the beer I consumed back then) banned flyers which ticked off many creative people (musicians and artists) and people with lost pets. Fortunately as Diane states, that anti-American law was banished.
If you do tear down the signs you will be in violation of the Washington State Constitution and the Supreme Ruler of the Universe. I don’t know who or what the Supreme Ruler of the Universe really is but since it is in the state constitution you had better mind your P’s and Q’s. You have been warned. Now pass me another Guinness.
June 19, 2009 at 3:35 pm #670153
JanSParticipanthmmm..so, there is a law that says that people can actually put these signs up, but..oh, we think it’s a blight (and yeah, I do do , esp. in the main junction corridor). But, the people are within their right to do it, agreed? So how come some of the community feels that they can just take this into their own hands and take that right away? It’s a small thing, I know, but when does it become a bigger thing, when something else, some other “law” that we simply don’t agree with offends our sensibilities, and we take matters into our own hands? Would that be OK, too? And, then…well, on and on…
I’m just asking how people feel about it. I’d love to see kiosks, official ones, where flyers could be placed…but that would probably cause eyesores, too, as people take advantage.Sigh…what’s the answer…?
June 19, 2009 at 4:12 pm #670154
maplesyrupParticipantPeople ought to be required to retrieve their signs after a certain period. Otherwise it is basically litter. That’s what I do with my garage sale signs when we have them.
For events the period would obviously be after the event is over, and for other things it could be 2 weeks or something that and anything w/o a date on it gets removed immediately.
June 19, 2009 at 9:33 pm #670155
JiggersMemberMaplesyrup, u brought up a good idea about a grace period. I wouldn’t mind being hired by the city and getting paid $18 an hour to just take notes on the postings. There should be a hefty fine to the party involved if they don’t clear their own mess.
June 20, 2009 at 12:38 am #670156
furryfacesParticipantJan S provided the info on removal in her above posting.
Posters may be displayed for 30 days or until the date of any event advertised, whichever time comes first. The person or organization hanging the posters has a 10-day grace period to remove the posters.
June 20, 2009 at 4:59 pm #670157
JoBParticipanti too would love to see a community posting board in the junction … i always stop to read them when i encounter them..
in the meantime.. i don’t find the posters on telephone poles such a blight. i can’t help but think back to the bands of the 60s.. now infamous.. whose shows were advertised on those poles. I don’t know today’s bands or the events.. but they still make me smile.
to me they are a sign of the vibrancy of a community and an affirmation that it is still possible to “speak” without administrative approval or entering cyberspace.
those plastered telephone poles are your right of free speech in action…
free speech has always been messy.
June 21, 2009 at 12:48 pm #670158
Square One BooksMemberAs a local business owner, I think the Community Board is a great idea. Perhaps it could go in the new park being built at the intersection of 42nd and Alaska. I will mention this to the Junction Association. I have a window in my store, and we get way more requests to post signage than we can possibly handle. I hate to turn people down, but we want our window to look neat and uncrowded. I would to love to have a community board to direct people to for what I cannot post.
June 21, 2009 at 4:21 pm #670159
JoBParticipantthis is what our forum does best.. one member has an idea and another member has the ability and willingness to present it where it can do some good :)))
it’s a beautiful day in the neighborhood.
June 21, 2009 at 11:07 pm #670160
JiggersMemberI’m going to have my dog aim high on those posters.
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