DEVELOPMENT: 1116 Alki SW gets approval to advance to final phase of Design Review

Few projects have gone before the Southwest Design Review Board in the past few years, as large-scale development has slowed down dramatically in West Seattle since the boom years a decade ago. But the board does occasionally get a project to review. This past Thursday night, for the first time in five months, the SWDRB met online, for the second Early Design Guidance meeting for 1116 Alki Avenue SW, a proposed ~60-unit residential building replacing a group of old houses on Duwamish Head.

The board’s newest chair Gavin Schaefer led the meeting. Also present: members Brenda Baxter and Alan Grainger, plus fill-in member Gina Gage, as well as the project’s assigned city planner, Theresa Neylon. She reminded everyone that since this project is still in Early Design Guidance, the graphics in the design packet (see it here) are “conceptual.” Here are toplines from the meeting, which followed the standard four-part format:

ARCHITECT’S PRESENTATION: Architect Peter Sherrill from MZA explained they are requesting one “departure” (zoning exception) for the “preferred option.” 61 1/2 feet is the maximum allowable height for this site; parking would be underground – the preferred option proposes 99 spaces, 27 of them mechanically assisted (nine stacks of three):

The site is roughly 120 x 196. There are two notable trees on the site and they’re proposing removing them and planting four replacements in two “corner gardens” and behind the building.

They believe the gardens will benefit adjacent properties too, and overall, they hope the project will “seamlessly blend in” with other newer buildings in the neighborhood.

BOARD QUESTIONS: Among the questions – Baxter wondered if it was possible to raise ground-level units to be a little above street level but the project team pointed out that the building is already very close to the maximum height, so there’s not really room to budge.

PUBLIC COMMENTS: SDCI received two comments pre-meeting – one saying the design was too massive and better suited to a different location; there also was concern about removal of the trees, and that the non-preferred options 1 and 2 were not as fully developed for this discussion as was 3. Also a window study was requested, and a request for a better location for the replacement trees. SDCI also received “non-design-related comments,” which Neylon is tasked with taking into account during her review of the project. One person asked to speak during the meeting. He said he lives in an adjacent building whose residents have provided a “detailed memo about our concerns.” First – too many units without waterfront views – also, the use of mechanical-assisted parking, which they contend doesn’t meet the requirement, and doesn’t live up to what board members said at the first meeting, that removing the two trees would be OK if there was a better parking option.

BOARD COMMENTS: Grainger expressed interest in a “friendlier” main entrance. Baxter said the space between the two buildings in Options 1 and 2 didn’t offer any benefit. Gage said that Option 3 did indeed seem to be the one offering the most respect for adjacent buildings’ privacy. Regarding landscaping, members addressed a public comment that the height of the new trees should be “limited.” The project team said they’re considering Pacific Fire vine maple, shorter, deciduous trees that would “do well in this situation.” The corner gardens might also include “bike parking for public use.” Another public comment addressed: Roof landscaping and whether it might lead to a noise problem; Schaefer noted that the project team had pushed it back and that should address the concerns. They agreed 1 and 2 weren’t as well-developed but that didn’t change their support for Option 3.

Gage said her concern about the ground-floor units had to do with planters out front that might be blocking the view. Schaefer wondered if safety and security were conflicting with views. The project team thought both were possible. Gage also pointed out the entry gates and thought they should be closer to the sidewalk, enabling a little more space for the residents.

For the “departure,” allowing the building to be 178 feet wide in the back rather than 150, all board members supported it.

In the summary of their guidance, board members said the project team should continue to include window studies as the design progresses; they also voiced support for landscaping using a deciduous tree that’s considerate of adjacent views, and they included the request for ground-level gates closer to the sidewalk. All four voted to let the project proceed to the second and final level of Design Review.

WHAT’S NEXT: Clearing Early Design Guidance means a developer can apply for the project’s Master Use Permit. One more review will be required; a date for that will be set when both the project team and city are ready. (The board’s calendar is currently wide open into fall.) If you have comments about the project, design-related or otherwise, email theresa.neylon@seattle.gov to reach the project planner.

30 Replies to "DEVELOPMENT: 1116 Alki SW gets approval to advance to final phase of Design Review"

  • Wendell July 9, 2023 (7:56 pm)

    …and this particular game of Monopoly is almost over.

  • Stop! July 9, 2023 (9:48 pm)

    Why are we still doing this?! More luxury places people from here can’t afford and it’s going to be an eyesore

  • Lucy July 9, 2023 (9:54 pm)

    I’d rather see a park.  The environmental impact with increased traffic, water use, noise, etc.  will be HUGE.  And I doubt any of these units will be affordable.  

    • Flo B July 10, 2023 (9:03 am)

      Lucy. You’re right that none of these will be “affordable” but seriously doubt they’d be built if they weren’t sure they’d sell. As far as a park with the beach across the street who’d utilize it? Who would maintain it?

    • Dave Newman July 21, 2023 (4:25 pm)

      There’s already a park around the corner and across the street.  

  • Tae July 9, 2023 (10:41 pm)

    Mixed use should be the way to go, use the ground floor for businesses. This would solve the problem of the planters, safety and security blocking the views. 

    • WSB July 9, 2023 (11:53 pm)

      The zoning is Midrise (Residential).

    • Westyrez July 10, 2023 (7:12 am)

      The problem with mixed use is:  you never know who the tenant is going to be. They can be a totally obnoxious tenant/ use that is loud and disturbs the residents and community… Or they could be a wood-burning business that pollutes the air..  wood smoke is 12 TIMES  more toxic than a cigarette (EPA Research)  Or a dry cleaner releasing solvents into your breathing air…So beware of mixed use  right where  are you live.  It can be obnoxious and unhealthy.. 

    • Flo B July 10, 2023 (9:00 am)

      TAE. What kind of business would move into a location like this? Employees and customers would need parking. If it was retail then you also have delivery trucks coming. And, as you can’t build across the street there are no view blocking concerns.

    • Dave Newman July 21, 2023 (4:29 pm)

      That would simply add more vacant commercial space to the existing vacant commercial space on alki and downtown. There’s no parking for shoppers and people aren’t coming to alki for commerce.

  • J July 9, 2023 (10:47 pm)

    Who owns this project? Individual? Hedge Fund? Private equity? Foreign investors? Who hired the architect? Just curious. A lot of profit there.  

    • my two cents July 10, 2023 (8:39 pm)

      LOL …. “A lot of profit there.” How did you come to this conclusion? Any facts to validate your supposition? Change and action requires more than a statement that is based on your own bias and perception – fact based, full knowledge and analysis will provide a better platform for your assertions.

  • Peter July 9, 2023 (11:23 pm)

    It is insane how much process anyone has to go through to build anything in Seattle. Design review needs to be done away with. All it does is delay, add expense, and forces everything to look the same to please one tiny group of people. Design review serves absolutely no useful purpose at all, and needs to stop. 

    • 937 July 10, 2023 (6:05 am)

      Thank you Peter. I agree completely. The building process is atrocious. To add – the tree “thing” This needs to go away as well. Construction grinding to a halt – because of a tree needs to stop being the norm. Remove trees, and replace. Incorporate them? Sure, build around them? OK. But mitigation needs to be the norm. Not a lengthy review.

      And to the person(s) who would want this to be open space? The properties were for sale. There’s property for sale NOW. Buy them and convert them to open space – leave them to the city in your will. Create a trust where nothing can be built upon them.

    • Wseattleite July 10, 2023 (6:14 am)

      I agree Peter. It comes across as a bunch body busy work. Some of the issues are only germaine to the future residents. Let them choose to live there or not, instead of trying to make it have amenities that only some care about. 

    • MyThruppence July 10, 2023 (6:28 am)

      Says Peter the developer/realty professional. I think it serves a great purpose by helping us make sure that Seattle never looks like Houston (i.e. a place where developments get rubber stamped and strip malls and 16 lane freeways become the lowest common denominator).

      • Souston July 10, 2023 (12:59 pm)

        I never read that Peter is a developer/realty professional.  
        Does MyThruppence know their statement to be true?  If not, why pejorative insinuation?

        The cost of design review is so significant that it has just been waived for low income developments.  
        Comparing Seattle to Houston is without merit.  
        Design Review has nothing to do with zoning or freeway construction as the Houston examples.

        Academics as well as designers decry Design Review as little more than neighborhood intervention of applying lipstick to pigs.  
        The monotony of our new developments is a sad result of Seattle’s Design Review Process:  uninteresting design made worse through costly delays and processes.   

    • Jeff July 10, 2023 (7:30 am)

      I’m starting to agree, even as I think I get what design review might be intended to accomplish.     Approval for a project should be down to one question: “does this project as proposed meet all relevant zoning and construction requirements, as clearly stated by applicable codes?”.    If yes, issue the permit, if not issue a correction sheet.     This business of it being totally up in the air and subject to the desires of people not even associated with the project makes no sense at all.  

    • Bryan July 10, 2023 (8:59 am)

      1000%…waste of time and money 

    • Jeff F. July 10, 2023 (11:00 am)

      Came here to say the same thing. Abolish design review! 

  • WestSeattleBadTakes July 10, 2023 (7:35 am)

    that removing the two trees would be OK if there was a better parking option.

    Completely backwards thinking.

  • SpencerGT July 10, 2023 (8:52 am)

    Looks reasonable to me.

  • April July 10, 2023 (10:11 am)

    How many of these will be affordable housing? That is what is needed. We don’t need more big ugly boxes for foreign investors to buy!

    • Jeepney July 10, 2023 (1:18 pm)

      With the location of that property, it is highly doubtful that they will be affordable to the average homebuyer.

    • my two cents July 10, 2023 (8:41 pm)

      April – ” … foreign investors …”  xenophobic? Are local investors “good”? What about investors from Idaho? 

  • rob July 10, 2023 (4:14 pm)

     hey all you nasayers on here, what you need to do is when the work on this building is in progress go up to the plumber carpenter labor worker electrician painter drywaller and every other worker you see an tell them to stop making a living . and find another way to feed your family.

  • James July 11, 2023 (9:22 am)

    Build Build Build!!! We need density of all kinds and fast!

  • Bev July 12, 2023 (9:50 pm)

    Looks like a great place to live.   The existing houses are an eye sore and its great that they will be gone. What about bringing back parking to the N. side of the street. Why does the city not allow parking on the water side of the street?

  • Shaseal July 12, 2023 (10:01 pm)

    Yes,  the city needs to allow parking on both sides of the street both on
    Alki Ave SW and Harbor Ave SW.  If open to parking it would lead to less
    congestion on the side streets.  People who live in the area could
    finally have friends and family over. As it is now company has to park a
    mile away.

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