WEST SEATTLE CRIME WATCH: Shoplifters on video

That video shows two shoplifters walking out the door at West Seattle Runner (WSB sponsor) on Saturday with jackets they didn’t pay for. They’re also suspected of vandalism nearby. From WSR co-proprietor Tim McConnell:

They came into the store and said they were just looking around.

I assumed they were looking for a gift or something, so we went back to helping other people and checking back in with them like we do for every customer. Then they started focusing on our waterproof coats, which are the most expensive apparel items we carry. They checked the men’s and then the women’s, which seemed a little odd, but whatever. But then they started acting a little weird, looking around and seeing where the staff was. I’ve seen shoplifters before, so I am aware of the signs, but I gave them the benefit of the doubt and kept helping the people I was with. Then we started getting busy again, so my attention got diverted for a moment. A few minutes later they left, and one of my staff said that one of the kids grabbed a jacket and walked out. I ran down the street after them, and I came up on a kid that hadn’t been in the store, but as soon as I passed him, he yelled “Run!”. I was about 20 feet behind the thieves, and they started running. I caught up to the smaller kid right in front of PCC and yelled at him to drop it. He turned and squared up, but realized I was much bigger than him, so he dropped it and ran. At that time, I was under the impression he was the only one who took anything, so I collected my item and went back to the store. After reviewing the security video, I realized both kids had grabbed jackets, so we are still out at least $200. The money is a concern, but the brazenness is the most alarming. I can almost understand an addict doing this, but a teenage kid acting with complete disregard is troubling. We hope that by sharing this the kids’ families will see this and deal with them appropriately. We need to make this community a better one, but these kids seem like they are headed down the wrong path.

Here’s a catalog image of the still-missing jacket (women’s large). Meantime, Westside Barber Shop proprietor Stormy, a few blocks south of WSR, sent this security image taken shortly before the WSR theft:

Those same kids were vandalizing my neighbor’s air unit. I had a verbal exchange with them that ended with the kid in the green hat threatening me with physical violence.

We’ll add a police report # when we get it.

83 Replies to "WEST SEATTLE CRIME WATCH: Shoplifters on video"

  • Marty December 19, 2022 (3:30 pm)

    Let’s s hope a WSB reader recognizes them so they can be prosecuted.

    • Mr J December 19, 2022 (3:44 pm)

      No one is getting prosecuted for a $200 jacket. That’s insane and a waste of taxpayer money. There should be restitution to the business and community service. 

      • Al King December 19, 2022 (4:47 pm)

        Mr J. Stealing is a crime. It may not bother you to be a victim but the rest of us have no interest in patting these kids on the head and making them promise they’ll never do it again.  Because we know they will continue until caught and prosecuted to the FULLEST extent of the law.

      • Adam December 19, 2022 (4:53 pm)

        Insane? Yeah cuz the idea you proposed wouldn’t cost any taxpayer money. See, what you do is go find the kids, ask em nicely to pay restitution and do community service, and they usually just comply. Voila! Or maybe you’re idea is insane. There has to be a system to get them to that point you’re suggesting, and it costs taxpayer money. Otherwise tell me about this awesome volunteer court you believe exists out there. 

      • Also John December 19, 2022 (5:27 pm)

        THIRD DEGREE THEFT (THEFT 3) PENALTIES

        • Stolen items are worth $750 or less
        • Gross Misdemeanor charge
        • Jail time up to 364 days or house arrest
        • Fines up to $5000
        • Court ordered restitution (money paid to store or victim)
        • Mr J December 19, 2022 (5:57 pm)

          And?My point stands that no one will be prosecuted for a $200 jacket. 

      • Webster December 19, 2022 (5:29 pm)

        Being asigned communty service is a form of prosecution…

      • WW Resident December 19, 2022 (6:13 pm)

        Actually Mr. J, what’s insane is your flippant attitude towards this and is one reason why the braziness of criminals has skyrocketed. The  woke culture of downplaying how crime doesn’t seem to really affect the victims. But, but, but, they have insurance, right? Geez 

        • Mel December 19, 2022 (8:44 pm)

          It’s clear to me that Mr. J is not doing anything but pointing out that King county/Seattle does not prosecute this level of crime. You only have to read any of one million more serious crimes here weekly where the suspect – if caught – is booked, released, and *might* be sent to a “diversion program” that is in effect entirely voluntary.  He is simply stating the current way this kind of crime is dealt with. You can be mad about it, but don’t shoot the messenger.

    • EXRETAILWORKER December 22, 2022 (12:18 pm)

      Thought this face looked familiar. Looks exactly like a tenant at Youngstown Flats apartments. He is outside the lobby right now with his skateboard.

  • Also John December 19, 2022 (3:48 pm)

    They’ll definately be named if they’re both WS locals.     Let’s see if their parents are strong enough to do it 

  • Karen December 19, 2022 (3:48 pm)

     WS parents, neighbors, friends, IF you recognize these kids PLEASE step up and do the right thing. We’ve got to lift up our neighborhood. 

    • Jethro Marx December 19, 2022 (5:09 pm)

      I can’t tell if your username is sarcastic or not, but I like that you left it up to each of us to decide what the right thing to do is. A neighborhood that does not know the faces of its residents is a strange type.

      • Time Machine December 19, 2022 (8:06 pm)

        Karen (aka, woman)-hating is so 2020!

        • Jethro Marx December 19, 2022 (11:34 pm)

          Oh I think you’ll find that misogyny has been around longer than that. Not at all what I meant, if that’s what you meant.

  • East Coast Cynic December 19, 2022 (4:00 pm)

    Maybe their parents will recognize them if they read WSB…..and take them to the police station.

  • dhg December 19, 2022 (5:01 pm)

    Vandalizing a heat pump will likely be enough to justify prosecution.    

  • Ms. West Seattle December 19, 2022 (5:05 pm)

    Maybe they are students at W.S.H.S Or Madison. If the parents don’t come forward take their picture to the schools and see if they can be identified.

  • Madmatt December 19, 2022 (5:08 pm)

    Knowing  that consequences are low risk they figure why not.  What we need are more progressive judges and prosecutors 

  • Runner December 19, 2022 (5:14 pm)

    Yes they should be prosecuted for theft. Maybe they already have a history with the courts but if not a little accountability goes a long way!  What a couple of jerks!  That has to be so discouraging for the store owners. 

  • onion December 19, 2022 (5:17 pm)

    Granted these kids are stupid, but they might have had enough smarts to not try these stunts in their own neighborhood. So the queries/pics should go to schools in nearby neighborhoods and towns such as Burien and Beacon Hill as well as local schools. They need to be busted for their own goods.

  • Neighbor December 19, 2022 (5:37 pm)

    Possible attempted copper theft on the a.c. unit maybe. Stupid brats.

  • EXRETAILWORKER December 19, 2022 (5:46 pm)

    F**k around and find out. They’ll be finding out soon enough, and maybe that will teach them a lesson. All it takes is one bad decision to never do something again. That next bad decision might not be so comfortable of an outcome. Good Job WSR for actually taking initiative of asset protection & retrieval.

  • Chris December 19, 2022 (5:58 pm)

    Go to the high school, talk to the folks in the office, show them the pic. I bet they know who they are.

  • Lauren December 19, 2022 (6:30 pm)

    omg. These are CHILDREN. Yes, they behaved like idiots (understatement). Yes, they should be held accountable for their actions. They are children. I’m honestly horrified by most of the comments.

    • Big Bird December 19, 2022 (7:26 pm)

      I see nothing wrong with any of these comments. If these “children” keep F*ing around and threatening people  they will cross the wrong person, The outcome will not be good. I hope to god they don’t show up where I work.. We don’t play there.

    • James December 19, 2022 (7:34 pm)

      Unless you know these children personally, no one in this comment thread knows their ages. They are young men engaging in criminal activity and therefore they are criminals. The parents of these criminals are probably just as rotten as their fruit.

    • Anne December 19, 2022 (7:34 pm)

      Oh please-they are not children not by any stretch. 

      • Meryl December 21, 2022 (6:03 pm)

        I agree Anne. Also, I think the one in blue is a woman? 

    • Alki resident December 19, 2022 (7:41 pm)

      These are our future criminals, quit coddling them. They eventually steal your car, whack you in the head as you walk down the sidewalk or rob banks. Lots of criminals start out as kids doing this. 

    • WW Resident December 19, 2022 (7:55 pm)

      So what Lauren? We have recently had kids this age commit armed robbery, shoot other people etc. These “children” can be horrible people too. These kids are not only “just” shoplifting, but also causing property damage and threatening violence towards people. So if these two seriously injure someone because of assault are you going to say, but, but they’re just children

    • Rhonda December 20, 2022 (2:49 am)

      CHILDREN have committed some of the most heinous, brutal crimes in our region’s history. Youth criminals are often far more dangerous than adult criminals as they have no sense of mortality. Also, the decision-making areas of their brains haven’t fully developed. You may want to re-read the part where one of the thieves threatened to violently assault one of the victims.

    • Josue December 20, 2022 (7:43 am)

      They aren’t kids they are punks and they must be prosecuted with all extension of law, Thats why this country have this brat behavior from kids to adults.

    • momosmom December 20, 2022 (2:39 pm)

      And this is exactly why some kids take the roads they choose and turn out the way they do because of the babying they get.Yes kids will be kids… if they steal an apple off of a neighbors tree , if they trip someone walking in the hall at school, if they TP a tree during Halloween… but if they are doing as the below commenter said “huffing” and stealing from a merchant and threatening another with physical violence then they need to be treated as an adult who has done wrong and not just patted on the back with the “now (name inserted) you shouldn’t do things like that”.

  • Seattlite December 19, 2022 (7:51 pm)

    These miscreants were very bold and deliberate in stealing the jackets and vandalizing an air unit.  According to the video, stealing seems to come very easy to them without any conscience of wrong doing.  Both need to be caught and punished before they escalate into worse criminal behavior.

  • WTF December 19, 2022 (9:22 pm)

    Oh, these little Ds will get caught. They won’t be hard to find. They’re reading this post, laughing; thinking it’s cute. But, they will be caught.

  • spirit of the season December 19, 2022 (10:07 pm)

    Lauren – I agree with you, these are children and this should not be a public conversation. @WSB, I am saddened that you published this photo of young people before any type of legal proceedings. @West Seattle Runner, I will never shop at your store because of your out-of-bounds handling of this situation in a way-too-public way, and your lack of compassion – all for $200. Shame on you.

    • Buddy December 19, 2022 (11:30 pm)

      The 200 bucks pays wages, rent and  taxes that keep your neighborhood picture perfect and privileged. There is no job more difficult (except teaching with these two in your classroom) than retailing to the public. Every Penny is hard earned with sweat and prayer. Try it sometime; it won’t take take long for you to become a supporter of sharia punishment for theft.

    • Scubafrog December 20, 2022 (1:29 am)

      Vandalism, theft and threats are crimes.    It’s outrageous that you’re shaming our media and local businesses, for exposing crime.  The alleged criminals are likely dangerous via the threats they’ve deployed.  

    • T December 20, 2022 (5:50 am)

      You probably never shopped there anyway no loss!I would venture to guess if these two robbed you on the street you would feel differently. Local businesses have been robbed vandalized and you want to poo poo it.

    • wscommuter December 20, 2022 (8:37 am)

      You have to be trolling, right?  Your concern in posting here is about the “children” and your criticism is placed on WSB (for reporting truth) and WSR (for wanting to stop theft)?  There’s no reasoning with that kind of stupid.   Would you please be kind enough to post your address so that these “children” can come to your home and take your belongings, which activity, apparently, you find acceptable.  

    • TM December 20, 2022 (9:19 am)

      100% disagree that this shouldn’t have been published. If indeed these are local kids part of the role of a community is to set and back expectations. And for the kids, an opportunity to learn a major lesson before learning a bigger one a harder way. Exposure and embarrassment, some sort of making it right, and starting over with a cleanish slate is a positive thing here. As the byline to a local CO paper I once read says “If you don’t want it printed, don’t let it happen”. They stole, vandalized and threatened- they put themselves into the field of play and need to understand what it means and have the (lucky) chance to change course. 

    • Concerned Neighbor December 20, 2022 (10:44 am)

      OMG are you kidding me?  These “kids” chose to steal.  And they “chose” to brazenly not cover their faces, there was no hesitation or nervousness.  They have done this before, many times.  I guarantee it.  WSR did the right thing, although considering their ease of robbery I probably would not have chased them because they could have easily been armed (and probably will be next time, and there will be a next time).  However, there is no question they did the deed and therefore good on WSR showing their faces that they did not cover.  I hope the parents come forward.  Its the right thing to do.    Also, did anyone consider that “Mr. J” is one of the perps?

    • Auntie December 20, 2022 (10:55 am)

      Your comments make me want to go right over to West Seattle Runner. You want to excuse this behavior now, only to bemoan their future (worse) crimes. If they didn’t do something wrong, they wouldn’t have their mugs posted on social media. Caught in the act!

    • shotinthefoot December 20, 2022 (12:05 pm)

      They don’t act like kids so stop making excuses for them like they don’t know the consequences of their actions. Once they choose to commit adult crimes, they’re effectively adults and should be prosecuted a such. You can’t just excuse them “because they’re children”. 100% hope their parents see this post and decide to start parenting their little criminals. 

    • Tim December 20, 2022 (12:41 pm)

      Hi Spirit of the Season, I’m Tim and I own WSR.  I wasn’t sure this was best way to handle this either, but I saw no other way to warn the community and other business owners about these 2 without showing their faces. I am hoping that they might decide to change their ways after being outed here publicly.  I live here too and would hope that as a collective we can get these kids on track to be better, or at least keep them from escalating their behavior before they become adults. The fact that one of them threatened someone when they were asked to stop damaging private property is concerning to me. And the brazen way in which they stole from my business without a care in the world makes me think that the only way to keep them from hurting somebody or continuing to steal from other small business was to get their faces out there and stop this sooner than later. Yes, right now they seem to be children, but they won’t be for much longer. At what point do we as a society hold them accountable? When we can press criminal charges and send them to jail/prison and have that on their record for the rest of their lives? Or do we try to get them righted now while they are still young?Not doing anything would only embolden them to continue their crime spree. As a member of this community, I feel it is my responsibility to get these kids straightened out before things get out of hand. And if you decide that after reading this you still disagree with me, that is your right. I saw no other option but asking to Blog for help, but I am open to your suggestions. Feel free to email me at tim@westseattlerunner.com and I’d be happy to listen.

      • Al King December 20, 2022 (3:21 pm)

        Tim. We’re with you. You did the right thing and have NOTHING to apologize for. It’s a sad commentary of our times when we have to deal with people who feel the need to cover and condone and rationalize criminal activity.

    • Dave Newman December 23, 2022 (12:55 pm)

      They threatened physical injury to a petite local business owner who asked them why they were vandalizing my air conditioning unit.  The police no longer respond to property crimes.  Its up to us to protect ourselves. 

  • Mykscott December 19, 2022 (10:08 pm)

    Their identities are getting circulated and their pictures are here on the blog and yesterday was also posted on Ring. Somebody will recognize them. The same attitude these days is nobody will pursue them in the act so they do it again without any concern they will get caught. 

  • Greg December 19, 2022 (10:21 pm)

    West Seattle Runner changed my life.  I’ve been working for 30 years with half that to go.  The pain got so bad in my feet and moved up to my calves.  I went to the podiatrist at Swedish.  They set me up with orthotics but recommended I get footwear from West Seattle Runner.  I went.  The owner made me realize that I was wearing a half size too small and that I was lacing up too tightly. It has been a year.  Pain free.  Orthotics I wear in my work boots, but everything else comes from this store.  Love the neighborhood asset.  I will be buying more from there to support.

    • Tim December 20, 2022 (12:45 pm)

      Thanks Greg! I am glad we could help, I’m happy that things are going better and I appreciate the kind words.

  • WS Guru December 19, 2022 (10:28 pm)

    Two points: 1) How is the business out of $200? That’s the retail price, not what they paid for it. Seems like the same jackets are $100 at REI. 2) It’s funny that so many of you think punishing criminals with our criminal “justice” system will help anything. Where’s your evidence? I offer that the crime which you complain about so loudly proves that our criminal justice system has never worked. Or maybe it works really well; it was just never intended to lower crime.

    • Buddy December 19, 2022 (11:42 pm)

      There’s some chalk outlines around here in the WC that say citizens tired of crime do work.

    • EXRETAILWORKER December 20, 2022 (9:18 am)

      They will be fined if caught. This is job security for Lawyers and Court employees. Possible good outcome: People like this might never do it again because of this experience of going through arraignment, monetary loss, community service, ect.

    • Tim December 20, 2022 (12:19 pm)

      Hi WS Guru. I’m Tim, owner of WSR. Let me explain how business works. See, I buy things from my vendors at what’s called “cost”.  I then pay the shipping for that item, and then the rent for a building to put that item in. I also pay an employee an hourly wage to hang that item up (which I not only pay an hourly wage, but money to L&I, ESD, the city and the fed government), on a rack that I bought, (that is taxed yearly for 4 years, as a part of “FFE”, furniture, fixtures and equipment, the tax being based on the purchase price I already paid for the rack), on a hanger that I bought ( the cost of which I do get to deduct a portion of after already paying for it). I then sell that jacket for a profit, which is the difference between the cost and what I sell it for. I sell it using a POS (point of sale) system that includes a basic cash register. I pay a portion of all credit card sales at a rate of 1-2%, while also paying a monthly fee for the soft wear used to run my register and keep track of my inventory. It’s all through a computer that I bought (see the above comment on FFE). I then use that profit to pay for all the things I bought, the rent, the taxes and the hourly wage for the employee. The rest I keep to pay myself. And sometimes I even use some of it to sponsor a local event that raises money for charity.So it might just be $100 to you, buts it a lot more than that to me, my staff, and the entities that rely on me continuing to do business and paying the associated costs.

      • Alki Dad December 20, 2022 (1:41 pm)

        Very well said Tim!!

    • Admyrl Byrd December 20, 2022 (7:29 pm)

      Ok Guru = what’s your solution?  Tired of being preached to and it’s clear that leniency isn’t working either.  What’s the third alternative.And by the way Tim, I’m holding off on my next running shoe purchase until I get a chance to get to your store.  Don’t let these snowflakes (outside or on line) get you down.    A

  • Mj December 19, 2022 (10:46 pm)

    spirit of the season – I am glad the photos were published.  If someone does not want to have their photo included then do not steal or vandalize someones property.

    Greg – agreed they got me into a better pair of shoes that reduced my foot pain a lot.

  • Odd son December 20, 2022 (12:23 am)

    Sad how society is trending.

  • WSHS December 20, 2022 (8:03 am)

    They go to west seattle high school. 

  • WW Resident December 20, 2022 (11:02 am)

    On closer inspection of the still photo, it’s possible that these two might be siblings. They share the same looking nose and features.

    • SS December 20, 2022 (12:19 pm)

      They go to WSHS.

  • Shadowtripper December 20, 2022 (11:52 am)

    I agree with Chris… take the pictures to high school.

  • No police report December 20, 2022 (12:18 pm)

    I called the non emergent police line to tell them what I knew and they said there is no police report so there is nothing they can do. Hopefully west seattle runner will step up & report it as these kids need to have consequences for their illegal actions. Also, they will keep doing this to other stores and other kids will follow in their footsteps. If they are caught, perhaps this situation will deter them from doing it again. Crime will always happen but when a society stops holding people accountable for their actions, it becomes its worst enemy. 

  • TJ December 20, 2022 (2:15 pm)

    They weren’t vandalizing or stealing copper from the AC unit. They were huffing freon. Those two are in a particularly dark place if they’re huffing freon from AC units and stealing sh-t that brazenly. They’re medicating some kind of deep pain by acting like that.  I’m not excusing the behavior; I knew kids like this in high school and to get relief from a dissociative like freon means these two are not in a good spot in their life.  I hope the owners get their property back and those two get the help they likely don’t realize they need.

  • Carson December 20, 2022 (3:14 pm)

    Bravo Tim, very well said. If anyone thinks WSR is getting rich doing what they are doing they are kidding themselves. We are lucky to have them in our community. I am a runner, I go through A LOT of shoes. I could buy them a little cheaper on line but I will never find the great service they provide, for free, any place else. These  are the kind of people we need more of. 

  • AnonymousEducator December 20, 2022 (6:15 pm)

    To the people who keep saying to share the picture with the school-1. There’s no nexus to school or school operations so legally the school has no authority. Please stop suggesting that. And schools are on break right now. 2. Schools are bound by confidentiality laws so they can’t just hand out names of minors to anyone who asks for them. Contacting the police when there’s a community incident is the best option right now. Thank you.  

  • Scarlett December 20, 2022 (6:47 pm)

    Interesting that this story got  63 comments – well now 64 – while a previous story of an armed robbery by several youths at a convenience store drew only 10 comments.   

    • KBear December 20, 2022 (8:59 pm)

      And if the power goes out there’ll be hundreds of comments, what’s your point?

      • alkiannie December 21, 2022 (1:23 pm)

        LOL KBear – TRUTH. Number of comments means nothing.

  • Al King December 20, 2022 (8:42 pm)

    Scarlett. Do you know for a fact they weren’t armed????  Could it be they simply didn’t display a weapon??? Why does that make a difference to you?? Do you equate the number of comments to the severity of a crime and peoples desire for justice?? If so, why??

    • Scarlett December 21, 2022 (11:22 am)

      Because eye witnesses said that in the former they were armed, in this shoplitfing incident no one reported a gun being drawn.  Not rocket science, Al.   Of course, they could have had a AK-47 under their jackets if you want to engage in silly hypotheticals, but we have only what was reported.  The broader point, of course, might be how we treat these sorts of incidents based on our biased – lowered – expectations.  Maybe it didn’t play a part here, but maybe it did. 

      • alki_2008 December 21, 2022 (3:25 pm)

        Scarlett, I had to go looking for the armed robbery story you mentioned. I didn’t notice that other story, probably because it was posted late Saturday night, while this shoplifting story was posted Monday afternoon.

        Or it might’ve been because when scrolling through the WSB Home page, the armed robbery story didn’t have a noticeable photo like this shoplifting story did. When scrolling through this website, I often scroll right past posts that aren’t as noticeable.

        There are a lot more variables to consider about why one story gets more attention than another. Not everything is about the issues that you’re alluding to.

        • Scarlett December 21, 2022 (5:18 pm)

          Yeah, this exchange is going nowhere.  So, I’ll just wish you a good evening.   

      • WW Resident December 21, 2022 (6:21 pm)

        Maybe Scarlett, the reason there’s so many comments on this thread is because how many people replied to some of the stupid justification/rationalization replies on here. Did you notice how many of those replies were because of this. Had the other story got such stupid replies such as this, it might have been a comparable number. Not everything is about what you assume it is about

  • Kay December 21, 2022 (12:13 am)

    Tim, you actually can contact WSHS. Go over there after the break, or rather email. Even though it wasn’t on school property. The school cares about the safety of our community  and their kids making better choices.  Principal Vance may even be checking emails. Wait until you have the  report. If there is a crime, it does not matter that it wasn’t on school property.

  • Runner December 21, 2022 (7:42 am)

    Tim, as a former business owner for many years it’s sometimes frustrating when you hear comments like those from WS Guru.  I am glad that you took the time to write your detailed response. My wife and I look forward to becoming new customers of your business.  Happy Holidays!

  • alkiannie December 21, 2022 (1:31 pm)

    I am hopeful that is a wake up call for these kids. They got lucky this time – only their pictures made it to a reputable  online news source alongside an article about their criminal activities. Next time it will be their names – and those will be easy to find by future employers, romantic interests, and the like when those folks Google their names down the road. Kids, if you are mad at life, why you letting life kick you in the butt?  Fight back. Fight for yourselves. Attracting negatively and hate and punishment isn’t helping you, is it? You can do this. Rise up – push back on life – and find a path where you can find joy and fulfillment.

  • Kay December 22, 2022 (12:27 am)

    Some info, WSHS sophomore. Start there. Because they are minors I’ll message you privately with a first name. 

  • I’mcoveredinbees December 22, 2022 (11:58 pm)

    I love WSR and am sad this happened. But I also can’t help laughing about the fact these kids shoplifted from a store filled to the brim with employees who are serious runners. 🤣 🤯 

  • Dave Newman December 23, 2022 (12:40 pm)

    Thanks West Seattle Runner and Tim for providing the photos of these young criminals.  It was my heat pump that they were vandalizing.  We won’t know until warm weather if they damaged it or not. Nothing cheap about heat pump repairs.  Lets all keep an eye out for them.  It takes a village to raise some peoples children.  

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