UPDATE: Governor Inslee extends ‘stay-home’ order through May 4th

5:04 PM: For the second day in a row, Gov. Inslee is gathering media (virtually) for a COVD-19 response update. Watch above, and read our as-it-happens notes below.

He opens by saying he’s extending the “stay-home order” through May 4th. (Its original expiration was to be April 6th.) He says it’s “morally necessary” because the full force of the virus hasn’t hit yet and modeling suggests at least 1,000 deaths, “and more will die if we stop now.” He says the percentage of positive tests is going up, so “we’re not out of the woods yet” and “we will not accept unnecessary deaths in our state.”

He acknowledges there are economic consequences and that everyone must find ways to support those who fall into financial hardship “through no fault of their own.” He reiterates that health recovery is vital for economic recovery. He quotes FDR about confidence and courage. “I have confidence in the courage of Washingtonians.” He stresses, “This is temporary. … All of us are leaders in this effort.”

While it’s OK to be outdoors, he extols “walks around the block” – but don’t, for example, go to Skagit Valley to see the tulips (which apparently some are doing even though the festival is canceled).

5:13 PM: Q&A starts with whether there might be another extension. “Ye, that is possible … but because Washingtonians are so committed to this, we are hopeful that will be the end.” But no guarantees. He also acknowledges that “rebuild(ing)” the economy “is going to take all of us.”

What will tell him it’s OK to lift the order? He says he is consulting many experts with lots of data, and we “have our destiny in our control” by continuing distancing.

Should people wear masks? The state health officer says that like federal experts, they’re evaluating that. She also says the peak is expected around Aprl 11th but “they are feeding new data into this model every day.”

5:37 PM: Q&A continues. The governor repeatedly stresses that social distancing must continue so we don’t “pull defeat from the jaws of victory.” He says the experts think person-to-person contact has been reduced by about 80 percent. He also reiterates the importance of mobilizing manufacturers to make PPE since we can’t rely on the federal government to mandate it. He says what’s happened to New York could have happened here if not for the measures taken. He also says Washington has “probably the second-highest per-capita testing” of any state.

5:41 PM: He wraps up with a Winston Churchill quote. The video window above should soon show the archived recording, so we’re leaving it up.

7:59 PM: Here’s the full news release from the governor’s office.

113 Replies to "UPDATE: Governor Inslee extends 'stay-home' order through May 4th"

  • East Coast Cynic April 2, 2020 (5:15 pm)

    If that’s the case, lets insure that the unemployed get unemployment insurance and subsidized cobra in a hurry.  At the state level, we can work to insure that those out of work can get their checks as soon as possible, but the feds control the cobra.  However, asking the present occupant of the White House to do an Obama on subsidized cobra is an exercise in futility me thinks.

    • Question Authority April 2, 2020 (5:39 pm)

      Thanks for politicizing your comment, it really doesn’t help the crisis at hand.

      • Tsurly April 2, 2020 (8:17 pm)

        You mean the crisis that the imbecile in the White House denied for the first two months of its existence  in our country?

        • uncle loco April 3, 2020 (8:46 am)

          TSURLY- What’s up with the lies? Its not helping the situation.

          • Tsurly April 3, 2020 (8:36 pm)

            I’m not sure what reality you are living in, but your name is fitting.

            January 22nd – “We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s going to be just fine.”February 10th – “Looks like by April, you know, in theory, when it gets a little warmer, it miraculously goes away.” February 24th – “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. … Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”February 28th – “It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.” March 4th – “Some people will have this at a very light level and won’t even go to a doctor or hospital, and they’ll get better. There are many people like that.” March 9th – “The Fake News Media and their partner, the Democrat Party, is doing everything within its semi-considerable power … to inflame the CoronaVirus situation.”March 10 – “We’re prepared, and we’re doing a great job with it. And it will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away.”March 14th – “We’re using the full power of the federal government to defeat the virus, and that’s what we’ve been doing.”March 15 – “This is a very contagious virus. It’s incredible. But it’s something that we have tremendous control over.”And here, two months in, he acknowledges it is a problem and try to down play/backtrack all the stupid crap he said before:March 17 – “I felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic.”March 18th – “I always treated the Chinese Virus very seriously, and have done a very good job from the beginning, including my very early decision to close the ‘borders’ from China – against the wishes of almost all.”March 19th – “We took the best economy we’ve ever had and we said ‘Stop. You can’t work. You have to stay home.’ … Here’s a case we’re paying a lot of money to stop things because we don’t want people to be together so that this virus doesn’t continue onward.”More downplaying the severity in the middle of it:March 23rd – “America will again, and soon, be open for business — very soon — a lot sooner than three or four months that somebody was suggesting. … We cannot let the cure be worse than the problem itself.”March 24th – “I’d love to have the country opened up and just raring to go by Easter.”

        • me April 6, 2020 (11:56 pm)

          God forbid President Trump encourage people to make the best of things. If the Dems were in charge, the borders would still be wide open out of fear of looking racist. Thank God Trump took the lead and ignored these ridiculous concerns, closing the borders from Chinese flights, where this pandemic began.

      • West Seattle since 1979 April 3, 2020 (3:36 am)

        People criticize Inslee, Durkan and others all the time on here, and no one accuses them of politicizing. If they disagree they say so. It should also be ok to criticize Trump. If anyone disagrees, say why.

        • uncle loco April 3, 2020 (8:53 am)

          There’s opinion, there’s criticism and there’s lies in these comment threads. I have no problem with criticism if they’re backed up with facts.

      • Carrie April 3, 2020 (9:11 am)

        How do you avoid “politicizing” a national crisis?  We live in a republic. That’s how it works. 

  • Mj April 2, 2020 (5:34 pm)

    And it’s time for some relief on taxes.  Not just defferals but actual cuts.

    • Restore full local tax deductions April 2, 2020 (8:03 pm)

      Tax relief would help for many. Perhaps a retroactive repeal of the $10k limit of local tax deductions on federal taxes would help some here. (We have high property values, even for the middle class.) It was a republican passed punishment to blue states under trump’s tax plan to restrict those.  We personally paid more than $13,000 more this year in federal taxes with minimal growth in income. (I don’t mind that if it weren’t to give Trump-esque wealthy a huge tax break. Many of us likely pay a higher percentage rate than Trump, but we don’t know…whole other issue.) That’s 13k less into West Seattle’s economy. A lot less dinners out (ordered out now),  adjustments to charitable giving (sorry), and with Covid pinching monthly income, even tighter restrictions on the budget. In addition, and maybe more importantly, consider blanket rent subsidies across the county or state. They would not help me directly, but it would surely help those living more month to month and therefore benefit us all. 

    • Carrie April 3, 2020 (9:12 am)

      How is the state going to pay for all the enormous expenses related to the pandemic if it cuts taxes?  

  • TJ April 2, 2020 (5:55 pm)

    I agreed with this 2 weeks, but we can’t hide inside forever. Better weather is coming, you’ll see lots of people outside and lots of complaints on here about it. Seems like I saw more people out and about today. At least he acknowledges there will be some financial hardships though. What does that mean Jay? Complain about the federal government while demanding money? Sorry, try harder Jay. You want to run for president and get more than 0% of the early votes? Do something different. Whether this order ended next week or May 4th he will say we need to keep social distancing and need to get back to work, but by May the economy will be way worse off. And the FDR quote was off as he would have used confidence and courage to say we need to battle through this. 

    • flimflam April 2, 2020 (8:10 pm)

      did you agree? i recall several posts about “your friends” that want to get out because..

    • AH50 April 2, 2020 (8:28 pm)

      tj, I agree we can’t stay inside forever. However I’m cool with living. If Ur not worried about it go around as many people as U want now & take Ur chances, ride busses 24/7.  Up to U tj.  Sounds like a great idea tj. N oh yea… who recognized ‘this problem & started to take action first??  Our Governor or the white house??  tj 

    • AH50 April 2, 2020 (8:47 pm)

      tj..  Simple ?? who recognized how bad this covid-19 could/would be & started to take action sooner?  Gov Inslee or the white house?tj.  Maybe his actions saved Ur life or a family member or a friend? tj 

    • CMT April 2, 2020 (9:17 pm)

      Unfortunately, staying at home is the only way to effectively battle through this, economically painful though it may be.  I’m glad Governor Inslee is making the tough decisions that will ultimately result in the least financial impact and lowest death toll.  There is just no way this ends without a lot of people and businesses being hurt economically.  Starting things up again prematurely will only lead to another shutdown coupled with an even larger number of deaths.  

    • Carrie April 3, 2020 (9:13 am)

      You don’t think it takes confidence and courage to stay inside and take on the financial risk?  I assure you it does. 

    • Jort April 3, 2020 (9:34 am)

      At least Jay Inslee pays his taxes.

  • BettyTheYeti April 2, 2020 (6:02 pm)

    Agree with you MJ.

  • Lisa April 2, 2020 (6:15 pm)

    It would be great if the state could get its website updated for gig workers, contractors and small businesses to apply for unemployment as provided by the stimulus package. Last I saw, the website wasn’t going to be updated to accept these until mid-April.

    • HS April 2, 2020 (7:59 pm)

      Agreed. April 18th was the date I heard.

  • AlexC April 2, 2020 (6:29 pm)

    Any suggestion of stopping mortgage and rent payments beyond the stopping of evictions which still hurts credit scores even if they cannot be kicked out right now.

  • Lena April 2, 2020 (6:44 pm)

    Can we please open up some handicapped parking at parks with closed parking lots so those with disabilities can enjoy the outdoors? Promise to stay far away from others.

    • Lady Neighbor April 2, 2020 (10:55 pm)

      I am pretty sure the lots are closed because people are supposed to be staying home and only driving for essential purposes- food, doctor, work, etc. People are breaking the rules, which sucks, but really we are supposed to be getting fresh air and excercise near our homes. I know it’s got to be frustrating. I’m frustrated- I’d really like to go somewhere, anywhere, not around my home.

  • Graciano April 2, 2020 (6:57 pm)

    What about the schools, is that it for the year?

    • WSB April 2, 2020 (7:21 pm)

      Considering public schools don’t get out until the last week of June … I would *bet* (just a semi-educated guess) that they will plan on reoeng.

      • JES April 2, 2020 (10:03 pm)

        It’s not likely that schools will open again before the end of the school year. 

        • waikikigirl April 4, 2020 (11:18 am)

          Won’t this be the year to remember for the Graduating class of 2020 :>(

  • David April 2, 2020 (7:03 pm)

    I’m totally with Inslee’s decision. But they need to defer EVERYTHING. Rents, mortgages, utility payments, etc. all without penalty. Literally just freeze everything until we get this damn thing under control. Our city cannot haphazardly deal with this and force more and more people toeing the line with homeless out into the streets. This is a public health, and economic and human rights crisis. Do all of this immediately and figure out how to recoup on the backend. It must be done.

    • Claudia Griffin April 2, 2020 (7:35 pm)

      I totally agree with this it would be the most common thing to do in a situation like this….

      • Elton April 2, 2020 (7:56 pm)

        I don’t know what power they have on mortgages. I think that would have to come from the federal level for the big lenders. 

      • Justme April 2, 2020 (9:24 pm)

        David…totally agree. At some point the remedy becomes worse than the issue.

    • Alien April 2, 2020 (7:45 pm)

      Yeah, and freeze it before the 5th when most rents are due this month…

  • G-Man April 2, 2020 (7:05 pm)

    So…the assumption is that schools will be closed beyond the April 24th date that is currently posted on the Seattle Public Schools website, yes?

    • WSB April 2, 2020 (7:19 pm)

      yes, this pretty much supersedes a variety of previously announced dates.

    • BW April 2, 2020 (7:21 pm)

      Seattle Public Schools updates their website on Monday,Wednesday and Friday, so it will be updated tomorrow. I have feeling school will not be back in session this year. 

  • David April 2, 2020 (7:28 pm)

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  • David April 2, 2020 (8:42 pm)

    This is starting to feel like a dictatorship.,… 1 person making decisions for the masses with no debates, votes, etc.  I don’t want to see people die but the destruction these decisions are doing to lives of millions are enormous.  At some point, we need to balance the potential lives lost versus the potential lives destroyed.  Lock down nursing homes, Stay in the house if your older or have an underlying condition, go outside with a scarf or mask to cover your face, Shut down mass transit for awhile, talk with companies about mandating virtual only meeting instead of face to face.  there are other options…people will adapt when risk exists

    • CMT April 2, 2020 (9:40 pm)

      Seriously?  A debate or vote about how to handle a public health crisis that is shifting daily?  Yeah, that seems like a great idea,  Let me guess – you are part of a demographic that will likely be just fine if you happen to get the virus and there is no one in your immediate family that would be significantly at risk if you were to unknowingly pass it on to them as a carrier.  And by the way, I’m in that group too but I recognize that the economy is going to be decimated for some time regardless.  That being the case let’s make sure we actually accomplish the goal of minimizing human casualties.

    • BKRDT April 2, 2020 (9:46 pm)

      Thank you for saying what I have been thinking. 

    • AH50 April 2, 2020 (9:52 pm)

      “At some point, we need to balance the potential lives lost versus the potential lives destroyed.  Lock down nursing homes, Stay in the house if your older or have an underlying condition, go outside with a scarf or mask to cover your face, Shut down mass transit for a while, there are other options…people will adapt when risk exists” …..  Ur words David. Ummm what?? Doesn’t a risk exist now?? LIVES LOST vs Lives destroyed??? U can can come back from destruction, tornadoes, earthquakes , 2008 fiscal crisis, tsunami… but LIVES LOST IS OK?   This isn’t war where a Commander would be willing to “risk a few to save the many” ??? Shut down transit? That would be a great idea.??  Also what is the definition of “old” ?  Also nursing homes are pretty much shut down. 6’ distance. Google people who want to see their grandparents but can’t , so they have to say hi from outside between windows. Dictatorship? U may wanna look it up?    

      • David April 2, 2020 (11:41 pm)

        You’re right Dictatorship may be a bit extreme but we’re all sacrificing freedoms right now.  Being told I can’t go outside, earn a living, or hang with my friends doesn’t feel like freedom.  Of course, inslee is getting advice from others  but his emergency powers gives him the ultimate authority to make decisions without asking permission from congress or senate.      History is filled with leaders seizing more power during times when people are afraid.  Think about this…..10 years ago, the swine flu hit the world very hard.  Over 60million Americans got infected and approx 13,000 died and the CDC estimates up to 575,000 died world wide in the first 12 months.   https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/2009-h1n1-pandemic.htmlBy the way, the scary thing about the swine flu is it was unpredictable and tough on all ages …. healthy people, kids, elderly, middle aged, etc.  At least with the coronavirus, we know and can protect the population that’s most vulnerable.  The infections, death, and hospitalization were all extremely high with swine flu but we adjusted to the threat  and protected ourselves more.    My point is at some point life needs to go on…. we can not stay in our homes indefinitely and hide from life.  

        • neighbor April 3, 2020 (7:27 am)

          @ David “You’re right Dictatorship may be a bit extreme but we’re all sacrificing freedoms right now.  Being told I can’t go outside, earn a living, or hang with my friends doesn’t feel like freedom. “You CAN go outside (and if you watched the announcement, the governor encouraged you to). You CAN earn a living. Grocery stores, delivery services, and the state employment security department are all hiring like crazy right now. And you CAN hang with your friends, through the magic of technology- haven’t you heard that group videochats are the new house parties?

        • JES April 3, 2020 (12:47 pm)

          David- you’re not grasping the full picture here, which is understandable as you apparently don’t work in public health or a related field. I work in public health. I went through many many years of schooling in public health. There are many public health experts much (much!) more knowledgeable and educated than I. It’s ok to questions things, that’s good, but knowing our limitations is also important. Think critically- in a public health crisis (a global pandemic !!), is it smarter to get your information from experts who have dedicated their lives and careers to understanding infectious diseases, or from the random friend or neighbor down the street who is bored with staying home? Its ok to question things and seek information, but to stubbornly dismiss the expertise and recommendations of experts when you lack understanding of a very complex problem is uninformed and irresponsible. 

          • Cisero April 3, 2020 (2:19 pm)

            Absolutely correct, as in the WHO expert that said the Wuhan Virus was not able to be passed between humans, and the CDC expert who said there was nothing to worry about.  A lot of so called experts in many fields, not just health experts, are educated far beyond their intelligence.  The real problem is that Gov Inslee doesn’t have the power to dictate many of the mandates he is putting in place.  I have looked at the RCW that gives his emergency powers, so should you.  The WA state constitution Article I, Section I states (paraphrasing) that all governments in the State of Washington (State, County, City, judicial) derive their power from the governed and are established to protect and maintain individual rights.  Being forced into submission by the Dog Food Governor (it’s ok to go to the store to buy dog food, but you can’t go to your local house of worship to receive food for your soul), however, is not the worst of this crisis.The worst part of it is that people are shrugging this trampling of our freedoms with a yawn, or worse, with a call to the Social Distancing Police to turn in your neighbor.  Who would have thought it would have ever come to this and Americans would just let their freedoms go, not just without a fight, but many without even knowing.

          • AH50 April 3, 2020 (8:40 pm)

            Cicerazy. Really?? Going to the grocery store for 10 minutes by urself equates to spending an hour or so in a mass congregation?  Hmm? Do U go shopping ??  If U do.. better make it quick!  the powers that may be. Make them/her/it. Right

          • David April 3, 2020 (4:59 pm)

            I actually do work in public health but that really doesn’t matter.  I supported the first 2 weeks of the stay at home order.   I even support the next two weeks and I’ll stubbornly make it to May 5th.  But after that, the aftermath will be worse than the virus. At some point we need to start living again. 

    • JES April 2, 2020 (9:54 pm)

      This isn’t one person making decision. The governor is taking the advice of public health / infectious disease experts who all agree that this is the necessary course of action until we reach a level that our health systems can handle and sustain. What people don’t seem to understand is that this isn’t just about protecting a few lives from covid- what do you think happens when a health system becomes completely overloaded? What do you think that means for women in child birth? Children with serious but treatable disease? Car accident or gunshot victims? Have you considered the effect a health system collapse that would have on our community, much less our economy, in the long run?I agree, staying home isn’t fun. It’s not how I’d choose to spend my time. But can we all (David, TJ, and ‘friends’) grow up, stop complaining, and do what we KNOW is needed to get through this time?

      • AH50 April 2, 2020 (11:19 pm)

        I agree Jes!

    • Elton April 2, 2020 (11:04 pm)

      The latest John Oliver episode really put it best. There’s a lot of people in the Glenn Beck camp who think it’s ok for “older” people to die because there’s a false narrative that only older people are impacted (aside from being false it’s heartless). 1 of 5 people being hospitalized in NYC are under the age of 44 (Source: Bloomberg). So just keeping the elderly in nursing homes isn’t going to cut it. Additionally, there’s a false narrative that if we lift stay at home restrictions it’s better for the economy when it reality it’s going to be a much darker economic picture when we see a sharp uptick in deaths across various age groups because individuals with non-COVID health needs are dying because we’re out of healthcare resources, which will drag on a lot longer. There certainly needs to be more government assistance to help people living paycheck-to-paycheck and others out of work right now, but opening up the economy again is much more grave that you’re realizing.   If we had rapid testing and a readily available stockpile of PPE – yes, I imagine there would be a shorter term path to returning to some normalcy as you suggest, “people will adapt”. Wearing scarves is not as effective as proper PPE. Sadly, the US just hadn’t appropriately prepared for a potential pandemic (aside from changes made following 9/11 to keep pharmaceuticals producing vaccines opportunistically so that we’d have that capability in case of a pandemic, which will come in handy for COVID).

      • AH50 April 2, 2020 (11:21 pm)

        Well said Elton! 

      • West Seattle since 1979 April 3, 2020 (4:25 am)

        I agree with Jes and Elton! David mentions shutting down the public transit system, yet opening up businesses.  That would mean people who didn’t have cars couldn’t get to work, and would also mean the roads would be more crowded (and would be especially bad for West Seattle with our bridge closed!)  Also if there weren’t some kind of job protection for people who needed to stay home because they were more vulnerable to the virus, they’d end up losing their jobs and might not even be able to get unemployment if they were fired for attendance.   David mentions keeping elderly people in nursing homes — not all people over 60 are in nursing homes–some of us are actually in the work force or looking for jobs.  I agree that there needs to be financial help for people and businesses affected by this, including gig workers or people who work for themselves. 

      • Jenny April 3, 2020 (7:29 am)

        John Oliver also said we should only be “a bit” worried about Coronavirus when it had already been widely reported it was circulating for weeks in the U.S. without people’s knowledge. He projects confidence, outrage, etc., but consider how many lives have been negatively affected because he chose to comedically downplay that threat. I’ll go to him for jokes, but elsewhere for analysis.

    • psps April 2, 2020 (11:31 pm)

      LOL. “I don’t want to see people die but…” I’ll add that to “I’m not a racist but…”  “I’m not a misogynist but…” Every time, the phrase is followed by a contradictory screed of some sort.

  • boy April 2, 2020 (8:54 pm)

    maybe not suspend your mortgage but pay a reduced amount then make up the difference on the bake end when things get better after all we a need a little cash flow in these times

  • Lisa April 2, 2020 (9:58 pm)

    It’s not being said enough (because it’s not a popular opinion) but I agree with David. It’s possible to restart the economy while still protecting those at risk.

    • Anne April 2, 2020 (10:30 pm)

      No it is not. 

      • David April 2, 2020 (11:50 pm)

        Yes it is….. we could do the same thing we did when the swine flu hit in 2009. 60million infected and almost 13 deaths in the first 12 months.  The country found a way to stay open.https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/2009-h1n1-pandemic.html

        • RME April 3, 2020 (12:06 am)

          H1N1 had a mortality rate of .02%. The two aren’t comparable. If 60 million Americans become infected with COVID-19, you’d likely see at LEAST 1 million deaths. Slightly more than 13,000, I’d say…

          • Nora April 3, 2020 (7:39 am)

            I’m not convinced the data are comparable. I’ve heard a lot of stories about people being unable to get tested because they didn’t have all the symptoms when they went to the doctor or hadn’t been in contact with someone who had tested positive. How many cases do we miss when we’re only testing people we expect a positive result from? It skews the mortality rate higher.

        • CAM April 3, 2020 (1:47 am)

          The best case scenario for covid, if we all follow the stay at home orders for months, is 100,000 deaths by June. That’s 6 months. 13,000 in 12 months is vastly different than 100,000 in 6 months. 

        • DB April 3, 2020 (12:18 pm)

          Or even do what they are doing in Sweden. I don’t know what The Governor’s end goal is here. 0 infections, 0 deaths? That is impossible. The reality is we have viruses around us at all times, new ones every year and people die. We can mitigate, which we have done, but we have to get back to our lives at some point.

    • Rumbles April 2, 2020 (10:32 pm)

      Lisa, are you an infectious disease specialist or similar?  I’m guessing most of us aren’t and are having to accept the information presented by these professionals, which is hard.  I’m not in any way related to the medical field, but even I can see that just “restarting the economy” isn’t an option right now.  There are 40’ refer trailers parked outside of New York hospitals housing the overflow of corpses.The tough part is that once it becomes that obviously bad, it’s too late — and you don’t get to go back.  This is beyond the importance of the economy, unfortunately.

      Look for yourself: https://www.politico.com/states/new-york/albany/story/2020/03/30/fema-sends-refrigerated-trucks-to-new-york-city-to-hold-bodies-1269600

    • Anne April 2, 2020 (10:49 pm)

      Lisa-how exactly would that work? Without a vaccine or drug the only thing so far that seems to be working is distancing & we saw how making that a voluntary decision worked didn’t we? Human life is not a commodity to be traded. This is an horrendous situation in so many ways-no doubt about that-but we can get through this-we will get through this-but surely not at the expense of human lives.  We go down that path -we’ll be lost as a society. 

    • Felix Grounds April 2, 2020 (11:32 pm)

      No it’s not, not now, if you open restaurants, bars, office buildings, schools etc, without widespread testing and tracking capabilities, this virus is going to overwhelm us, and it won’t just be the elderly, or compromised who die.Please listen to the  experts.

    • Calires April 3, 2020 (2:29 am)

      Everyone is at risk.  People need to read what the epidemiologists and other scientists studying this virus are saying about how it’s transmitted, viral loads, and immune responses in people of all ages, instead of what their cousin Pam posted on Facebook.  I’ll give David a pass on this because he’s clearly a teenager, but everyone older than 16 needs to realize that the mortality of millions of people is more important than the “freedom” to hang with their friends.  

  • Kadoo April 2, 2020 (10:24 pm)

    I was so grateful that the governor gave us words of wisdom and encouragement. Much more than we’ve gotten from the pres. 

  • Mj April 2, 2020 (10:50 pm)

    David I agree. I was good for another week or two, but another month is going to bankrupt a lot of businesses and hurt 100,000’s of thousands of Washingtonians.
    People need to be able to work, many construction jobs can be done with social distancing and should be allowed now!

    Last week I chatted with a couple of guys building a house and they were told they had to stop, WHY? Two people building a house should be allowed to work.  Many jobs can be conducted with social distancing, more sanitation at all in a safe reasoned manor versus the bludgeon of the State dictating.

    • CAM April 2, 2020 (11:50 pm)

      Because it isn’t simply about physical distancing anymore. It is now about eliminating all but essential to life activities. Building new houses is not essential right now. The economy will recover, it has every other time in history. People will have hardships. It will not be easy and we will all need to look out for each other and take care of each other. Dead bodies don’t recover. 

    • Foop April 3, 2020 (12:09 am)

      You know what else bankrupts an economy? Hundreds of thousands of people dying because staying home stinks. If we opened restaurants back up and one asymptomatic person dines there and gets a server sick, that server then gets people they come in contact sick, sooner or later all the people who came in contact with them go out to live their lives and get more people sick. That’s how infectious disease works. Then all those people go to the er and now no one can see a doctor. And those that do take up beds for others. Now someone gets sideswiped by a semi on their way to work because, the economy is so important! And they get a minor concussion, but they can’t get in to see a doctor, they could die from a minor injury untreated. That’s why we bite the bullet now. And no, scarves and covering your face will not stop this microscopic virus. And by the way, you can go outside, just stay 6 feet from people. Sorry you can’t grab a beer with your buds but everyone will be better off when we don’t perpetuate a treadmill of Illness.Shutting down now is like losing your car for a week to get a new engine. Sure it sucks for a bit but you’ll have a good dependable car in a week that will run for years. If you don’t take it in, sure, it technically runs, but every 5 miles you have add oil, and you can’t start it without a jump. In the long run you’ll suffer a lot more for a lot longer

    • AMD April 3, 2020 (4:24 am)

      Most construction jobs absolutely CANNOT be done safely with social distancing, which is why they have to stop.  For safety reasons, working alone with power tools and sharp objects is just a bad idea anyway.  And while they may be able to get through much of some days finding tasks that can be safely done solo, every construction worker likely will have at least one task every day that requires a second person within 6′ either because it is heavy or awkward or both.  Please stop pressing the narrative that you can build a house while maintaining proper social distance.  That is not possible while working safely.  Everyone needs their paycheck, but I’m sure your construction worker friends would rather survive on unemployment for a few months than lose a finger or three (if not their life) in a preventable work accident because they’re not allowed to work in teams like they should.

  • Maggie April 2, 2020 (10:57 pm)

    I sent a postcard to thank Governor Inslee for his leadership this week because we I can’t imagine what we would do if we were left to the impotent response of the current administration. This pandemic landed on our doorstep and Inslee has had to go it alone and make some tough calls for the first few weeks all while being actively undermined by a president allocating resources not by need but by loyalty. This is plainly criminal.  Lives have been saved by Inslee’s decisive action, and while not perfect, it really instills confidence to know that he’s being guided by science, integrity and compassion, all things lacking in our president. Onward Washington State. We’re going to get through this. 

    • LB April 3, 2020 (12:20 am)

      Couldn’t agree more. Inslee has done a stellar job.

  • Wseattleite April 3, 2020 (1:15 am)

    And despite it all,  we are ALL going to die.  It is amazing how people seem terrified of the inevitable.  I want to live the life I like, not live longer in the one I don’t.  It is death people.   We all have a 100% chance of contracting it.  For the vast majority whose death will not come through COVID-19, and I mean a VAST majority, let them live life.  Those that fear the inevitable so much they go into panic attacks when someone else comes within 6′ of them, I suggest deep isolation and a bubble suit.  They can have that life they want.  Certainly not one I want.

    • AH50 April 3, 2020 (3:19 am)

      WestSeattleblight. I hope u have a great night dr doom.

    • Jennifer April 3, 2020 (6:29 am)

      This is a false equivalency. You can accept mortality without running knowingly towards clearly defined risk. I’m guessing you don’t walk into traffic just to live fully on the other side of the street. Please also remember that this is a highly infectious disease and when you make the choice to blithely expose yourself, you are exposing others as well. There’s nothing wrong with not wanting to suffer an untimely death or bring it on others. 

    • Jethro Marx April 3, 2020 (6:53 am)

      One of the few true facts, that 100% death rate. Our society cannot accept this, yet we are better and better at keeping people alive in a token sort of way. I guess it’s hard to let go. Shutting things down may have spread the impact on hospitals out as intended, but many of us are talking as if we have some reason to believe this virus will go away at some point. It is far more likely that regardless of what trendy techniques we come up with for social distancing, the curves we keep hearing about will simply flatten off and we will add covid19 to the large list of mildly effective death agents that strike the weak and old disproportionately. The question of when to go back to work is a real one, and shouldn’t be dismissed as a Republican talking point or something. I guess I hope that one thing we’ll learn is that providing food, shelter, and healthcare for every single person is probably a good idea for every single other person.

    • TM April 3, 2020 (6:54 am)

      It’s not about being “terrified of the inevitable”. It’s about giving a damn about other people, including total strangers. Sometimes it’s not just about you.

    • BKRDT April 3, 2020 (7:06 am)

      I agree! The hysteria and headlines are messing with people’s heads. 1.25 million people will die this year from this plague. That means, on average, 3,287 deaths per day. An additional 20-50 million people injured or disabled. More than half of deathsoccur among young adults ages 15-44.(This awful plague I am quoting real facts about is driving a car. Why is no one freaking out about driving cars?!?!)

    • KM April 3, 2020 (7:19 am)

      “I want to live the life I like” is great, until your lifestyle risks the lives of others. So stay home.

    • CMT April 3, 2020 (7:22 am)

      I want to do what I like.  Someone is stopping me from doing what I want.  You sound either very young or very selfish or both.  This inconvenience will likely be a very short blip in your life. Maybe you could suck it up so your likes and wants don’t kill others who, while recognizing we all die someday, don’t want it to be now.  Many of us have people who depend upon us, for financial support, companionship, emotional support, physical care – we can’t be as cavalier about death as you seem to be.

      • Notoveryet April 3, 2020 (9:04 am)

        CMT, insulting people or calling them names is not helpful. I think we should stay home, but to a lot of people this will not be ‘a short blip’ in their lives, it will take years to rebuild the economy after this. People are worried about how to feed their kids, not for a short blip but for a year or more as they try to get back on their feet. Empathy goes a long ways in situations like this.

        • JES April 3, 2020 (11:37 am)

          Going back to work before we’re through this will accelerate the spread of this disease, which will overload our hospitals and health systems. Many many people will die, for many reasons- young, old, sick, injured, etc. That will delay, not hasten, the rebuilding of our economy. There is a bigger picture here.

        • CMT April 3, 2020 (1:27 pm)

          Notoveryet – Your response is misplaced.  I didn’t call anyone a name (although I could think of several that apply).  I called Westseattleite’s attitude selfish.I absolutely recognize that staying home will be financially devastating for some and am extremely empathetic to them.  My comment is clearly not directed to those people, especially as it is clear that attitudes such as Westseattleite’s are going to increase that pool of people and prolong their hurt.  In case it was not crystal clear, I am specifically responding to the “I want to live the life I like, not live longer in the one I don’t” sentiment posted by Westseattleite.That is not about feeding kids, or getting back on his/her feet and if you don’t see that attitude as problematic and selfish, we are not going to find any common ground.

    • JES April 3, 2020 (7:26 am)

      Great points. Since we’re all going to die anyway, let’s allow our overloaded health systems to collapse, because who needs them anyway! I guess unemployment no longer matters, same with debts, so all this concern for the economy is also moot. Live it up, Wseattleite!

    • wscommuter April 3, 2020 (8:51 am)

      @Weseattleite … the breathless stupidity of your comment defies reason.  According to your logic, our heroic health care professionals should just go home and wait it out.  Let the afflicted get through it on their own and let the chips fall where they may.  Stop risking their own lives for the sake of others so they can “live the life they want to live.”  Marvelous; simply pure sophomoric stupidity.  I’m going out on a limb here; I’m guessing you’re a young person who considers yourself impervious to this, and thus horribly burdened by being prevented from “living the life you wan to live.”  Would you please be kind enough to publicly identify yourself?  I’d like to start a list of folks like you who are so burdened.  Give it to hospitals so that they know that one day when you DO need health care service, that we need not bother to care for you.   You aren’t “afraid” of death, so let’s just let you go there.  Appendicitis?  A car accident perhaps?  Cancer?  Or do you deem those sorts of things worthy of life-saving efforts, as opposed to the efforts required now to save lives?  Please do explain for our edification if you have a line you draw for yourself and your precious “living the life you want to live” where you do consider life worth saving.   We’re all ears.    

      • AH50 April 3, 2020 (3:24 pm)

        wscommuter, very well said. I agree with U 1000%. … “the breathless stupidity of your comment defies reason”     Great quote!!  I hope U don’t mind if I use it in the future. 

    • DB April 3, 2020 (12:24 pm)

      Yeah, I’m going back to my job on the 6th. This is enough. The statistics don’t even come close to the doom we’ve been told is coming. We could eliminate every traffic death in this country by making all the speed limits 5 MPH, but is that any ways to live?

      • KM April 3, 2020 (1:28 pm)

        “The statistics.” Well, that’s all the proof I need. 

      • Carrie April 3, 2020 (2:31 pm)

        It hasn’t occurred to you that the reason things aren’t bad is that we, you know, went into this lockdown?  Why do you think we did it?  You didn’t realize it was to slow the spread so catastrophic numbers didn’t happen?

    • Carrie April 3, 2020 (2:33 pm)

      How sophisticated!  Since you have this fatalistic view, do you just wander into the street? If you are so secure in the knowledge that death is inevitable, why obey traffic signals? 

    • S April 3, 2020 (2:57 pm)

      I agree with the people who think the stay at home thing has gone too far. Keep in mind people that some people suffer from mental health issues and isolating these people, including me, makes the problem much much worse. How many people will suffer from depression, alcohol/substance abuse, suicide, etc.? I don’t want to become clinically depressed (again) so if that makes me selfish, then call me selfish. 

  • AH50 April 3, 2020 (2:41 am)

    So, wrstSeattlite..  lol. Hmmm how fatalistic are U? Of course at any one point we all are gonna go to the other side.  U have to bring it up NOW?! (Great timing, idiot). How about a great thoughts to the peeps who have passed & their family?  So U try  n the state obvious, (we die) so it’s ok for U to go to a super market & infect someone who may pass away?  Is that ok with u? Yet U show ur idiocy.  That’s ok with you?  Try traveling. Hopefully someday u’ll  

  • bloo April 3, 2020 (6:12 am)

    Mythbusters:  How a Virus Spreads So Easily:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbQ9Kl9CqUU

  • flimflam April 3, 2020 (9:35 am)

    wow, i can’t believe the callousness from some comments. maybe if the hospitals get overwhelmed like in Italy, Spain, maybe New York soon you could help the nursing staff decide who gets the ventilators, ie who gets to live or who gets to die. thats if you have time and can break away from “hanging with your friends”, etc.

  • Mj April 3, 2020 (2:30 pm)

    The extension of the Stay at Home to May 4th was a decision that was not needed and seriously harms the economy and livelihoods of people most of whom are in the low risk population.  The goal to flatten the curve has been accomplished and continued monitoring would have been the prudent decision.  flimflam – I know of least one hospital on First Hill looking to cut staffing due to the lack of patients!  Maybe a calm before the storm but the economy has certainly takin a huge hit hopefully not a knock out blow, but the extension adds more a more adverse hits.  Maybe the economy can be Mohamid Ali at the Rumble in the Jungle with the rope de dope but I have serious concerns that 100’s of thousands of Washingtonions may never recover financially.  This is a huge issue that is not being fairly assessed in the discussion.

    • CAM April 3, 2020 (6:46 pm)

      Mj – the stuff you are hypothesizing about certain groups being low risk is not supported by data. Here’s a recent article for your consideration. Some groups may be lower risk to die. That does not mean that won’t end up in the ICU or on a ventilator or requiring hospitalization. The latest data from the CDC suggests that nearly 40% of the people in the hospital in the US related to covid-19 are under 55. https://www.healthline.com/health-news/covid-19-isnt-just-dangerous-for-older-adults

    • Ice April 3, 2020 (7:09 pm)

       flimflam – I know of least one hospital on First Hill looking to cut staffing due to the lack of patients!” you are so full of it. Which hospital, buddy? 

      • Notoveryet April 4, 2020 (9:42 am)

        There’s at least a couple in the state. Especially in rural areas who get their money from outpatient surgeries etc., who have been told to stop anything non life threatening. Some of these areas do not have any covid people hospitalized…yet, so yes, they are losing money. You can simply read up on it.

    • RME April 3, 2020 (7:16 pm)

      My understanding is that the hospitals making cuts are doing so because they’ve had to cancel outpatient procedures and clinic visits, which are where they make the majority of their money. The reason they’re having to do that is because of how many COVID-19 patients there are, not because there are too few. 

  • Mj April 3, 2020 (4:31 pm)

    flimflam there is a very valid concern regarding the economic impact that is occuring that is being neglected.  The people paying the highest cost economically are the ones least effected by the virus.  Yes slowing the spread is a valid issue but at what economic cost?  

    • CMT April 3, 2020 (7:55 pm)

      What exactly does that mean “The people paying the highest cost economically are the ones least effected by the virus?”  

  • Mj April 3, 2020 (10:40 pm)

    CMT young healthy adults who need to work to pay bills and feed their families.

    • CMT April 4, 2020 (8:45 am)

      Do you have data that that particular demographic is suffering the most economically from the shutdown?  

      • West Seattle since 1979 April 4, 2020 (10:20 am)

        Younger people would probably be more likely to have underage kids to support.  

        • CMT April 4, 2020 (5:58 pm)

          Yes, I agree that people with minor dependents are typically younger than 55.  That says nothing about whether “young healthy adults” are suffering more economically than other demographic groups which is the assertion I am questioning.

  • Mj April 4, 2020 (9:28 am)

    CMT just life experience, if you are retired collecting SS and a pension you are less effected financially than a young person just starting out living paycheck to paycheck.  Thus the group most effected by the virus tend to be retired with steady income stream versus the young who are less effected with no steady income and the need to work!

  • Mj April 4, 2020 (10:48 am)

    CMT young healthy adults who need to earn a paycheck to pay bills are less effected by the virus than people who are retired collecting SS and a pension who are not reliant on earning a paycheck!

    • WSB April 4, 2020 (1:34 pm)

      You know, the pitting age groups against each other thing is not helpful, and not true anyway. For people just hitting 60 now, full SS benefits are still almost 7 years away. And this is the generation when employers (unless you were in civil service or some large companies) stopped providing pensions and instead “offered” 401k access with small if any employer contribution. So assuming that everyone 60+ is fat ‘n’ happy ‘n’ rich is not accurate – the economic hit is being taken across the age groups. *NOTE, THIS IS NOT AN ARGUMENT AGAINST THE STAY-HOME ORDER,* just a counterpoint to the contention that the “young and healthy” are the main group suffering economically.

  • Mj April 4, 2020 (1:54 pm)

    Agreed everyone except the truly wealthy are being affected economically especially people who have lost their jobs, many of whom are in the low risk category.

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