See where encampments might be allowed in West Seattle under mayor’s new proposal


The recent “One Night Count” showed 2,800 people sleeping on the streets of Seattle. City leaders agree there has to be someplace for them to go, and Mayor Murray is pursuing a proposal to allow more encampments. Under the zoning-related rules in his proposed ordinance, they could be allowed in The Junction, at Westwood Village, even, ironically, on the site long home to the encampment calling itself “Nickelsville” until the city evicted its residents more than a year ago. The agenda made public today for a City Council committee meeting next week includes the map you see above, showing the areas of the city where Mayor Murray’s new proposed policy would allow up to 3 “transitional encampments” at any one time. Click the image to see the full PDF version, which you can use to zoom all the way in to specific streets and blocks. It’s in essence a zoning map, as the gist of his proposal is to allow them in “Industrial, NC2, NC3, Commercial (C),Downtown (except DMR, PSM and IDR), and Seattle Mixed Zones.” But this wouldn’t just mean someone can show up, set up a tent and start an encampment – there are a variety of other rules in the proposal, about how they would be managed, how close encampments could be to each other, and more – see documents here and here. While those documents are for a briefing at 2 pm next Tuesday during a meeting of the Planning, Land Use, and Sustainability Committee, the committee’s public hearing isn’t scheduled until 5:30 pm February 26th – here’s the official notice. P.S. Here’s the list of currently authorized encampments in Seattle.

66 Replies to "See where encampments might be allowed in West Seattle under mayor's new proposal"

  • Andi January 30, 2015 (3:55 pm)

    Wow.

  • Joe Szilagyi January 30, 2015 (4:02 pm)

    These blue zones, at least in our corner of West Seattle, are to my knowledge 100% privately held. So presumably the law is irrelevant unless the private land owner is willing to allow encampments?

    • WSB January 30, 2015 (4:07 pm)

      Far as I can tell from reading as much of the fine print as possible, it’s *not* a “you MUST allow them” kind of thing. But it seemed like something people should be aware of just the same, whether they would potentially be for it or against it, while it’s in the comment/public hearing phase …

  • West Seattle Hipster January 30, 2015 (4:12 pm)

    I guess this means that Mike McGinn is no longer the worst mayor in Seattle history now…………..

  • westseattledood January 30, 2015 (4:24 pm)

    This only accounts for 300 people out of 2,800, right? Barely a dent in the throngs of humanity headed here, not to mention all of the hullaballoo it might likely cause.

    Upon the closure of NVille, et al camps, wasn’t there some kind of stipulation preventing an encampment at previous encampments sites before X amount of time had passed???

  • M January 30, 2015 (4:28 pm)

    Wow. Not cool.

  • Debra January 30, 2015 (4:44 pm)

    It looks like several of the areas are near schools and butt up to residential areas
    What is wrong with the mayor, thinking he wants to be like McGinnis one time mayor

  • flimflam January 30, 2015 (5:11 pm)

    is there a time limit on how long these camps can stay in one place?

  • Mike January 30, 2015 (5:18 pm)

    Uhh… that’s pretty close to two schools there… like, right at the school. Madison and WS High. Ya… I don’t think that’s a wise choice. Who are these people that come up with this stuff?

  • Carole January 30, 2015 (5:31 pm)

    So they just looked at a zoning map? Did anybody look at the actual land? Did they drive by? Where along California between Edmunds and Findlay is there land for a tent city? Or even a tent? Ditto north of the junction in the zones marked along and adjacent to California? It would be cheaper for the city to just buy those new apodment monstrosities and house the homeless there. And great addition to the Westwood bus mess: a homeless camp. How much did we pay someone for this bogus study?

  • CM January 30, 2015 (5:39 pm)

    I just double checked the calendar, and I’m pretty positive it’s not April 1st. Wow. Just wow. Even the waterfront.

  • Don Brubeck January 30, 2015 (5:41 pm)

    Might be allowed? There already is a really large one with tents, RV’s and open fires under the WS Bridge east approach (Spokane St Viaduct?). It is being allowed now.

    • WSB January 30, 2015 (5:44 pm)

      “Officially” allowed. There are certainly encampments all over the place, not just the four on the list here: http://clerk.seattle.gov/~public/meetingrecords/2015/plus20150203_1d.pdf that are described as authorized. I think I even noticed tents on the old “Nickelsville” site at Highland Park Way/W. Marginal while riding southbound on the 1st Avenue S. Bridge the other day, despite the fencing, jersey barriers, etc….

  • Julie January 30, 2015 (6:06 pm)

    I think we’d ALL be better off if we just gave these people permanent housing rather than “encampments”. This idea raises plenty of ire along the lines of “I earned mine; they should have to earn theirs”, but conservative Utah is finding out this actually saves money: http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/09/22/home-free

  • G January 30, 2015 (6:08 pm)

    Long story, but just tonight at work had to find a shelter for a very young, broke couple with a hungry baby (I’m not a social worker). Tough being homeless, even if is sometimes the fault of the homeless….but that is a very odd map.

  • Trickycoolj January 30, 2015 (6:20 pm)

    Wonder how Seattle Housing Authority feels about that chunk in/along High Point? I don’t feel to thrilled about it as a member of the HOA. Also just noticed all of Boeing Field is blue… Tents on the runway? That’s a good look for the new delivery center.

  • Romeo January 30, 2015 (6:37 pm)

    This city’s attitude towards homelessness is alarming, and this map further demonstrates how it views the homeless population as “the norm” and “just Seattle.” Seriously, wake up. These are people just like you and me, and deserve better. This map demonstrates a frightening perspective; “You can struggle to survive here, and here, and over here. Don’t live here.” Wake up.

  • CandrewB January 30, 2015 (6:52 pm)

    Wow, where are they from G?

  • Penn January 30, 2015 (7:01 pm)

    Not okay with this! There are no services in west seattle to help the homeless. I do think tent cities can be effective if they choose to treat their homeless community with respect and rules. West seattle is too residential for homeless encampments to thrive or help. The entire West Seattle community should feel empowered to speak against this proposal and the mayor.

  • anothernerd January 30, 2015 (7:02 pm)

    Note this includes all of the West Seattle Greenbelt, which abuts residential property. As well as the former Nicklesville site, which was impacting nearby residences. I don’t see why tent cities continues to be the “answer” more housing and shelters is what is needed.

  • funkietoo January 30, 2015 (7:07 pm)

    Is the city going to put SHARE & Scott Morrow ‘n’ Peggy in charge of these transitional camps? The homeless have it hard enough without letting these people run the camps.

    Studies are coming out how society would save taxpayer money if we just provided basic housing to every homeless person. Let’s figure this out folks…living in tents, in wooded areas and under bridges is not the way to go.

    • WSB January 30, 2015 (7:32 pm)

      Funkie, funny you mention that. A news release today claimed that what remains of “Nickelsville” has parted ways with Scott Morrow. Since it’s no longer in this area, we had no reason to write about it (didn’t get the agenda that gave birth to this story until hours later). It was sent to a general regional media list that we’re on. Later in the day, Morrow sent a response. I’m sure these are probably published somewhere on the Facebook pages for that organization – TR

  • Mary Coolidge January 30, 2015 (7:11 pm)

    @Penn no offense intended, your comment sounds like NIMBY. “To deny a man a home is to deny him a life.” – Maya Angelou, one of the greatest advocates for the homeless.

  • howdy January 30, 2015 (7:17 pm)

    This is absurd.

  • Jared January 30, 2015 (7:19 pm)

    This is a state issue as they are transient by definition. It is solved by encampments provided on state land outside of any city. Cities then can be mandated to strictly enforce code to the extent required, as appropriate alternatives are in place.

    But nicely, of course. Roust em, give em the address and/or a semi-forced ride to a nice field in the woods. They can commute in daily and save up if they want to live in Seattle some day. Win win.

  • wetone January 30, 2015 (7:21 pm)

    With the crime and the building going up here and now this the only good thing I see is maybe I can get my property taxes lowered as home values start flattening out or dropping, but in reality they most likely will be going up to pay for this.. Mayor Murray gets my vote for worst Seattle mayor of my life time. Was planing on selling my places in 5yrs and getting out of here, might have to speed that up as I think the housing market might take a turn a little quicker with Murray at the helm. With the traffic issues and those mentioned above this place will be a zoo. Heck I might just sell it all put money in the ground and move into one of these new encampments, free internet, and so much more…………..Murray needs to go quickly before he is allowed to do any more damage.

  • B January 30, 2015 (9:23 pm)

    I sort of agree with Jared. I believe we should help those that are just down on their luck and those with mental issues. And that help should be a lot more than just tent cites. As far as the criminal element goes, they should just be offered housing in a commune type of environment outside of the city. Nothing else. If the commune could be somewhat self-sufficient, that would be great.

  • AIDM January 30, 2015 (9:39 pm)

    This is a really bad idea and is way to ambiguous. I think Seattle should have tiered mission style housing, where the lowest rung is a bunch of bunk beds in a huge room, and the highest rung is dorm style housing for people completing vocational training, not using drugs/alcohol, and taking their psych meds. 3000 beds would be easy to provide in a high rise dorm like they have at UW.

  • Jw January 30, 2015 (10:17 pm)

    impeach Murray! NOW!

    -also worth noting is that diversity that will be added to the urban villages.

  • rukidding me January 30, 2015 (10:44 pm)

    Murray, you are gone. With the traffic and over
    construction-yeah this is what we need close to
    homes and business. Becoming like Ballard is one
    thing-becoming unsafe and fearful to live in is another- time to move on. I believe in assistance and compassion but provide permanent housing not encampments on our front porch, Take BACK WEST SEATTLE COMMMUNITY- WE CAN DO THIS1
    Enough! Let’s Unite and bring back the Community
    we love.

  • Heather January 30, 2015 (11:03 pm)

    This makes absolutely zero sense. Allocating land for tent living is simply dumb. Another option might be: providing a “tiny house” for properties zoned for mother-in-law units. These are to be let by a homeless person for a term of one year (zero to $200/mo rent based on circumstances) with option to renew at a reduced rent of say $300-500/mo. (property owner receives something of value for the property, a subsidy for utilities and a homeless person gets a home and an address). Then open up additional residential areas to this zoning. I would happily participate in this… my lot could easily fit a family of 3.

  • Mickymse January 30, 2015 (11:16 pm)

    Every time I think a comments thread on here can’t make me think less of the community I live in…

    I am frankly shocked at some of the contents here. Especially from those who want housing, apparently as long as it isn’t near you. And how does everyone expect to pay for that housing?

    This wasn’t the Mayor’s idea. This was a recommendation from the stakeholders Task Force he put together. This is the safe alternative some folks would like. It’s not ideal — but 3,000+ people aren’t choosing to sleep outside every night in King County either; they simply have no other choice.

    Maybe if some more folks were around, young girls wouldn’t be getting robbed on the way to school.

  • Born on Alki 59 January 30, 2015 (11:39 pm)

    Really, can’t we do something better than this? I happen to work directly south of the Spokane St. Viaduct. Have witnessed people who”camp” there relieving themselves in public on a daily basis. Litter, needles, malt liqueur cans and excrement are now the norm. As a “progressive city” how can the mayor condone this? Does his plan include maintaining these properties, or at least providing basic sanitary facilities?

    • WSB January 31, 2015 (12:56 am)

      The reason this is referred to as the mayor’s proposal is that it is billed as such throughout every bit of supporting material from which we wrote the story.
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      Slide deck http://clerk.seattle.gov/~public/meetingrecords/2015/plus20150203_1a.pdf
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      titled Mayor’s Proposed Encampment Ordinance (first page)
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      immediately following that, page 2 is headed Mayor’s Three-Part Strategy
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      bottom of each slide deck page attributes to CITY OF SEATTLE – THE OFFICE OF MAYOR EDWARD B. MURRAY
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      Map is titled “eligible zones under Mayor Murray’s Encampment Ordinance”
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      Love it, hate it, OK with it, it is an initiative for which he is going to great lengths to own, and therefore regardless of whose ideas – task force, staff, community members, whatever – fed into it, it IS a mayoral proposal, and our story is accurate in referring to it that way. Deputy Mayor Hyeok Kim will lead the presentation at next Tuesday’s PLUS committee meeting, according to the agenda.
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      For anyone interested in the city’s formal process, note that the 5:30 pm February 26th hearing is a standalone event – that’s the time slot the city council reserves for big initiatives and processes (budgeting comes to mind) – meant to accommodate many speakers.
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      TR

  • Creatureofcommonsense January 31, 2015 (5:48 am)

    Awesome, another way to attract and retain professional campers! My family has three generations i Seattle and the tipping point has been pushed with Murray. He/finical supporters are shoving their agenda down our throats with no thought of residence, business owners and police department. Taxation without representation, Proof is in his actions! The word is out, drug addicts, professional campers, leeches, Seattle is the place to be! Free food handed out by churches/non profits.feed the criminals freeing profits from crime for their habit.

    Seattle- don’t let the extreme left wings bully you into thinking you are a bad person for standing up for your rights and safety as a taxpayer over the professional campers/criminals/addicts/mental health/takers in society’s!

  • Huh January 31, 2015 (6:48 am)

    This map looks as though Hiawatha Playfield and park could become camp sites. Who is going to take their kids there to play then?!

  • CanDo January 31, 2015 (7:39 am)

    Has he lost his flippin’ mind? Allowing more places for the homeless to sleep outdoors (especially in the wet Northwest) is NOT the answer! And that he’s going to great lengths to “own” this proposal just shows how out of touch he is with the reality of trying to survive without decent shelter. I am appalled! There’s one really easy way to begin to put an end to homelessness and that is to provide “homes” for these people… apartments, small living spaces and/or rooms. Check out the successes of Salt Lake City and Phoenix in beginning to end veteran homelessness. What those cities are NOT doing is providing more space for people to sleep out of doors, which increases their misery. And what about that lack of sanitation? Makes it even more difficult for the homeless to find a way or the will to change their circumstances.

    Mr. Mayor, I challenge you. Spend a month or two this winter living alone in a tent city with little to no income, while trying to keep clean in order to find a way out of those circumstances. Too disgusting or difficult or frightening? Welcome to their world!

  • doug January 31, 2015 (7:48 am)

    Ridiculous. Ridiculous. Ridiculous
    Put one on the mayor’s street and see if he changes his tune.

  • John January 31, 2015 (7:57 am)

    I hope more of us who have experienced tragedy, illness and bad luck will react with compassion to these homeless. Even if we haven’t ‘walked in their shoes’, please just imagine their lives.

    I am sorry, reading some of these comments is truly sad.

  • Junctionite January 31, 2015 (7:57 am)

    The zone along California Ave is ridiculous, it is full of businesses and directly adjacent to residential property. This mayor is far worse than McGinn, who was more ineffective than dangerous.

  • Friend of Border Collies January 31, 2015 (8:03 am)

    Okay, the thing is, you need to keep your middle class families happy, safe and doing well *in order to* have a tax base and political will to support all the social welfare projects.

    Putting homeless camps next to private residences and schools, in nice middle class areas, is going to make families feel unsafe, worried (rightfully!) about their property values, and just plain mad.

    I used to live in the Uptown neighborhood of Chicago, where this sort of intense social welfare programming turned a once affluent neighborhood into the worst sort of urban blight. A well-meaning liberal alderman guilted residents into accepting one after another low-incomine housing project, nursing home, youth shelter, etc. Property values plummeted, white flight, businesses closed … pretty soon Sheridan was just a street of full of empty storefronts, winos and junkies. The story of Uptown should be written and told to city official everywhere.

    This is all to say, to support social programs, you need to keep the middle class happy.

  • House me January 31, 2015 (9:46 am)

    I know, let’s open up both stadiums and tent them there. Plenty of space, facilities, out of view…

  • Ex-Westwood Resident January 31, 2015 (10:41 am)

    Homelessness is a vast problem not only here, but in other major cities. The issue is that because of the “Freeattle” image that the city has, many of the ~3000 homeless here, aren’t from here but from other cities that sent them or they found their own way here.
    As long as Seattle/King County and the State dole out free benefits Seattle, the county and state are going to be a magnet for homeless throughout the country, and yes, even other countries.
    There are other BIG cities that are known to buy bus passes for their homeless to travel to Seattle because of what we do for the homeless.
    How do we end it? Good question. I don’t know if there is a way to differentiate between “imported” homeless and those that are from here.
    For every dollar spent on the imports, it takes away from our own.
    Of course, you can throw MILLIONS, even BILLIONS, of dollars at this issue, but all will be for naught unless those who are homeless actually WANT to get out of that situation.
    There are some, studies show anywhere from 25% to 60%, of homeless that WANT to live that and EXPECT “society” to take care of them.
    Instead of just throwing money at the whole spectrum of homeless, can we focus it on those that are ready to end their situation? Those are the people we should be helping, those that want out of homelessness. Those that are homeless through whatever reason; unemployment, drug/alcohol addiction/mental health issues…etc. To throw money at those that aren’t ready to change their situation is a waste.

  • Heather January 31, 2015 (12:14 pm)

    I’m still miffed at this. I really do think that providing a “tiny house” on MIL zoned properties is a smart idea. If the city spends $8-10k on a tiny house and it’s hookup, that’s equilavent to a minimum of $667/mo rent plus a utility/electrical subsidy for a property owner – plus the structure remains as part of the property. Then a tiered rent: year one $0-200/mo, year 2 $300-500/mo, would help people get back onto their feet. My lot is zoned for a MIL and I have “un-built” footprint to accomodate another small structure. As I said before, my lot could easily accomodate a family of 3 or maybe even 4. Many people are homeless due to the economy and are simply struggling. I’m sure I am not the only homeowner who would participate in a plan of this type.

  • John January 31, 2015 (12:26 pm)

    Ex-Westwood Resident,
    Interesting comments.

    Now some facts about the myth of “Freeattle.”

    “Seattle’s Human Services Department (HSD) found that most people who are homeless in Seattle are from the Puget Sound region. Other studies show that people without permanent housing come to Seattle — and all major cities — at the same rate as the rest of the population.”

    And, “HSD’s numbers indicate that Seattle shelters are housing mostly Seattle residents. Seventy percent of single adults in Seattle shelters are from the city.
    About half of families with children in Seattle shelters are local, and 21 percent are from the rest of King County.”

    Ex-Westwood,
    Please cite what “other BIG cities that are known to buy bus passes for their homeless to travel to Seattle because of what we do for the homeless?”

    And yes, there are organizations that focus on exactly the “homeless through whatever reason; unemployment, drug/alcohol addiction/mental health issues…etc.”
    Locally such an organization, DESC, regularly meets bewildering opposition to building facilities for the homeless most at threat.

  • Eric1 January 31, 2015 (1:12 pm)

    I feel for the plight of the homeless and is it my duty to help them. I am willing to help those who help themselves. Set up shelters, tent cities and ask a few simple questions: show me a paystub from your job. If you don’t have a paystub, there is a sheet that you can sign up for to volunteer 4 hours tomorrow. You can also stay if you file 2 job applications tomorrow with a receipt signature. If not, you can just move along.
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    For those people who really can’t work, those should be referred to the state/county/city for suitable housing that requires proof of disability. However, doing drugs until you are incapacitated is not an excuse. You can stay if you get treatment, otherwise move along.
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    I look at it this way. How many of your parents would let you stay at their house if you said: I don’t want to work and I just want to sleep there, eat you food, watch cable TV and smoke weed ? However, most parents would let you stay if you were down on my luck, were really looking for a job and spent a few hours a week volunteering. I’d probably even get a couple of attemptss at drug treatment if it were a problem. Tough love is OK, I don’t think this is too high of a standard.
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  • Dan January 31, 2015 (1:45 pm)

    John-
    I would be amazed if an agency whose funding is predicated on serving a certain population found any countervailing evidence to their mission in a study they funded. Speaking of funding apparently HSD cannot be trusted with the money we are currently giving them (http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2024685695_grantproblemsxml.html).

    Even if every single person in the camp came from Seattle this ‘favela’ solution is a stupid and wasteful solution. These encampments will become magnets for criminal activity and filth.
    The homeless are not homeless by accident or happenstance, most all of them fall into three (two really the third is an add-mix of the other two) categories:
    1. The mentally ill and who refuse treatment or who self-medicate with street drugs and alcohol.
    2. Career criminals who rotate between the street and prison, often racking up tens if not hundreds of arrests , before they commit a crime that make the a lifetime guest of the state or they are killed.
    3. A mix of 1 and 2, they are people who have burned through every social safety net until they end up on the street. They have become alienated from their extended families, worn out their welcome with their friends and finally given up. They do not take responsibility for their problems, they are injustice collectors. Nothing is ever their fault. They become helpless by believing they are helpless.

    Share/Wheel are enablers, they convince people that they are crippled so they can sell them a crutch. Read their website and you will find no job training, no temporary employment help and no way out of homelessness excepted providing ‘free’ homes. Anything that is free is valued and maintained in direct proportion to its perceived value.

    If the homeless are merely unlucky strivers who just need a chance, why is every tent camp filthy? Why does the litter and street crime multiple around each and every camp? The answer is simple, if you ask anything from 99% of the homeless in the way of work or commitment they will avoid you like the plague.

  • Kadoo January 31, 2015 (5:49 pm)

    Maybe we need to bring back the workhouses. Sure, they were pretty awful but it was a place to live. People weren’t idle. Maybe a more enlightened version of the old model would work.

  • John January 31, 2015 (6:47 pm)

    Dan,
    Be amazed, or at least read the article you reference:
    “The auditor’s office didn’t find any evidence of malfeasance by the department or by the providers.”

    http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2024685695_grantproblemsxml.html

    Otherwise I am amazed by such baseless claims.

  • AmandaKH January 31, 2015 (7:16 pm)

    Hey West Seattle! Remember in November 2012 when Nickelsville flooded? And tons of people in West Seattle gave money, food, clothing, tarps and general help to the Community? I do, and that’s the West Seattle I love and want to represent at City Hall.
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    https://westseattleblog.com/2012/11/nickelsville-flooding-followup-what-the-encampment-needs-now/

  • Kevin January 31, 2015 (8:13 pm)

    Attn district candidates: Your comments on Rasmussen’s retirement from civil service came impressively quick. Frankly, I don’t care that you appreciate his service. I don’t care that you support reducing traffic congestion. I don’t care that you support all the common sense, non-controversial topics because those views don’t distinguish you from anyone. I care about where you stand on this. Certainly you have read this story. I’m hearing crickets. Please, tell me where you stand. We need leadership. Show us you have it.

  • AmandaKH January 31, 2015 (8:41 pm)

    Sure thing Kevin – Send me an email and we can grab coffee soon. I’d love to talk about this.

  • Kevin January 31, 2015 (9:31 pm)

    While I appreciate the offer, I didn’t have coffee with you to know where you stand on other issues. This shouldn’t be different. I’m not the only one that wants to know where our candidates stand on this. If this came to you for a vote, assuming you’ve been elected, how would you vote?

  • Debra February 1, 2015 (12:07 am)

    I am in agreement with kevin, how would you vote,
    I work with the homeless through health care for the homeless here in seattle
    Homelessness is complicated, the vast majority of the chronic homeless have severe mental health and substance abuse issue. Most do not want to be in shelters for a host of reasons some very valid.
    I think it is critical to tease out the needs of the chronic versus episodic homeless
    Not having acess to appropriate resources near the camps does create a higher likelihood of issues for the neighborhood that hosts the camp
    A very poor idea to have it here in west seattle,

  • AceMotel February 1, 2015 (12:22 am)

    It’s a crying shame that human beings are even homeless in the first place, that human beings are living in TENTS in an urban environment, that human beings don’t have access to a warm bed, running water, a stove and a toilet. Isn’t anyone else outraged about this? J$$&% Ch%#@*, it’s an outrage!!! It’s not something to “discuss over coffee,” or worry about whether the encampments are too close to residential lots, or wring our hands because our property values are lower, or whatever the H#&& we worry about. What has happened to our values in this country?

  • Dan February 1, 2015 (1:18 am)

    John,

    They spent $38,000,000, those six zeros behind the 38 make that thirty-eight million dollars and that was just for ONE YEAR! They have no records of how that money was spent. That is the very definition of malfeasance (wrongdoing or misconduct especially by a public official. The bureaucrats at that agency were given funds and told to spend them on the citizen of this city. They have nothing to show for it.

    Here is another word for you ‘incompetence’ is that any better, should we fund them just because they mean well. Or should we judge them as fools with our money. If you do not know how the money is being spent, then you cannot tell if it is doing any good. If the attorney-general or civic minded journalists were to keep digging into that mess they will find another Silas Potter Jr-type in there in enriching himself and his cronies.

  • Mickymse February 1, 2015 (2:23 pm)

    Jeez, people… The map above simply indicates where an encampment COULD go and where it COULD NOT. The Mayor — again, based on feedback from 26 community stakeholders who work on issues of homelessness — is only proposing up to three new encampments. So, you’re not all going to have one open around the corner from you.
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    The proposal doesn’t say this is an ideal solution. It simply acknowledges reality. This year’s One Night Count just found 3,000+ people currently sleeping outside. That is people who are not in shelters. Not receiving services. Camping out wherever they think they can find a safe spot. Which could be behind your house, in a greenbelt, next to a school, or anywhere.
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    So this proposal simply offers to give some of those folks a safe place to go, where they can get the services they are looking for, and then we can start connecting them to better options.

  • Mickymse February 1, 2015 (2:27 pm)

    FYI for people who have no clue:
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    Many homeless here in Seattle are families with children.
    Many homeless here in Seattle have jobs.
    Very few people want to sleep on the street. Try it yourself some time.
    What good is a shelter that you have to line up for at 5 or 6pm, without any guarantee you’ll get in, that might offer you as little as a mat on the floor and a pillow, and that boots you out at 5 or 6am without breakfast?
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    Folks who think being homeless is some lovely “free ride” that “lazy” people are taking advantage of need to stop watching FOX News.

  • miws February 1, 2015 (4:11 pm)

    Thank you, Mickymse…..

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    Mike

  • only 300 February 2, 2015 (12:08 am)

    300/2800 is a bit of a sound-bite photo op plan. unless they are reaching out to property owners outside of the city to relocate the others, what is this achieving but PR.

    not much. #’s matter. he’s a mayor of a big city. the plan needs to be bigger not wimpier. this is wimpy and gutless.

  • Jeffrey February 2, 2015 (10:37 pm)

    Clearly no bias in this thread.

    Carry on.

    Clyde and I appreciate the humor, especially the bit about getting coffee with a candidate.

  • TM February 2, 2015 (10:52 pm)

    I live here in West Seattle and am tired of the trash, vandalism, and crime that comes with the problem. Remember Nickelsville? NIMBY, you’re damn right! Our mayor can invite them to live in his neighborhood on Capital Hill.

    The Seattle Times reports: “…the city has invested nearly $37 million annually in homeless services and interventions — without fixing the problem.

    A report due next March will evaluate how that money has been spent, but Murray acknowledges the number of people living without shelter in Seattle has increased — by 30 percent since 2010.”

    Let’s just throw more money at the homeless with no clue about a realistic solution.

  • pjmanley February 3, 2015 (5:10 pm)

    “THE latest One Night Count of people experiencing homelessness in King County is jolting: 3,772 men, women and children without shelter — a 21 percent increase over 2014. Doubly disheartening is that 2015 marks the end of King County’s Ten-Year Plan to End Homelessness. Have we collectively failed? No.”

    The above is a quote from Jon Fine, President and CEO of the United Way of King County, who lives in denial of the facts. Did we fail to end homelessness or not? It’s a yes or no question. He says no, and goes on to rationalize all we’ve done without ending homelessness. Until politicians and community leaders face facts, we are doomed to the ever expanding landscape of blue tarps, trash-strewn greenbelts, unsanitary conditions and environmental ruin like we see from our trails and roadways today. I hope Murray is the last of our “feel-good” Mayors, and gives way to a real problem-solver next time. What kind of leadership is it to spread the problem around to all the commoners to deal with in their backyards? It’s not a plan. It’s a surrender and a punt by the politicos so they can go on living in denial on our dime.

  • CanDo February 6, 2015 (8:36 am)

    Here is what can happen when you give the homeless a home…

    http://www.care2.com/causes/this-is-what-happens-when-a-city-gives-the-homeless-a-home.html

  • Kim Schwarzkopf February 6, 2015 (9:34 am)

    Thanks for posting this map an info. My famy lives within blocks of “the blue” and I’m also Co- Chair of River City Skate Park in South Park ( free park on private land owned by Sea Mar)- Noticed RCSP is in the blue too. I admit that I am triggered with fear when thinking about “those homeless people who must be f’ed up, drunk, defacating, littering, blah blah blah”. I am also so grateful for the kind hearted folks on this thread who are not demonizing as marginalizing homeless people! I feel like we are all AT RISK! Also, I heard on the radio this morning there are close to 31,000 Students in WA that are homeless! We are talking about homeless YOUTH! Lets take some positive action, WS, and not just sit around and moan about “those people” Call your legislators and support these awesome policies to help our children please. http://blog.homelessinfo.org/wp-content/uploads/2015-CLS-0114-HSSA-One-Pager.pdf #SeattlePeaceAlliance #RiverCitySkatePark

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