West Seattle Crime Watch: 13-year-old burglary suspect arrested

December 24, 2013 at 11:11 am | In Crime, West Seattle news | 41 Comments

11:11 AM: Last night we were asked about a sizable police response and apparent arrest in Arbor Heights near 35th and 102nd. Today, we have details: Police arrested a 13-year-old suspected in multiple burglaries/attempts. Officers found him after a report of someone trying to break into a house near 98th/32nd; items found on him were linked to other break-ins. The report we obtained from police says he just got out a week ago after serving time for other burglaries. Still working on more info – added details to come.

ADDED 12:33 PM: More details from the report:

First, the reader report that led us to this information:

My house was broken into yesterday between 3 am and 2 pm. I live on 30th between Othello and Myrtle. He trashed my house inside and stole my work phone and keys plus jewelry. He was caught yesterday afternoon attempting to break into a house with someone home. I will get all my items back eventually. The police told me they had been looking for this guy for a while now. He has been breaking into homes all over West Seattle. He is a juvenile. The scene investigators took fingerprints from the window he broke into and from items in my house.

Making the connection with multiple reports about the response in Arbor Heights, we contacted Seattle Police media relations to verify, and to obtain the report on the case that led to the arrest.

After a search, the suspect was found at a bus stop on 35th SW, breathing heavily and sweating – and in possession of a backpack containing, according to the police report, “a set of keys with an ID card for (name redacted) who is a victim of a burglary where he had keys and an ID card stolen (case #). There was a red marker that matched a red pen used earlier today on a burglary (case #). Multiple car keys and house keys were located in the backpack along with 9mm ammunition in a Winchester box. On (suspect’s) person was a Sprint cell phone, car keys with multicolored wrist band, and a gold pocket watch. There was a burglary (case #) that was only a few blocks from (case #). I contacted the homeowner (name redacted), who described the Sprint cell phone, 9mm ammunition, car keys, and gold pocket watch as being hers. The backpack and property was photographed and placed into evidence … (The suspect) was later booked into (the Youth Services Center) for investigation of attempted burglary and investigation of possession of stolen property.”

We are still checking the system to match addresses to those case numbers.

ADDED 12:51 PM: The burglary case # with the cell phone, ammunition, and gold pocket watch matches our original reader report from 30th/Othello; the red-pen burglary case # was from a break-in yesterday in the 6000 block of SW Lanham; we’re having difficulty finding the address linked to the other one.

41 Comments

  1. Happy he was caught but this is just sad…

    Comment by wsmom — 11:33 am December 24, 2013 #

  2. 13 years old and already a repeat offender. We have failed this child :(

    Comment by JanS — 11:38 am December 24, 2013 #

  3. Hey, here’s a new form of rehabilitation. There is an article in today’s PI about a guy at Navos (here in WS) who bit another guy’s nose of on Saturday. Our PD opted not to take him into custody, despite the nurse asking them to. Why not put these two together and let it work itself out? Obviously, I am joking, but in both cases our system is failing us!

    Comment by karma time — 12:19 pm December 24, 2013 #

  4. That child has failed himself. That said, ideally there would be a great deal of support to bring him back.

    Comment by Friend O'Dinghus — 12:24 pm December 24, 2013 #

  5. So sad. We used to have a boy across the street who really had no chance…non-existent parenting and lots of drug and alcohol use in the home. They moved away, but not before he started breaking into houses in the neighborhood. I can’t help but wonder if it is the same kid. :( Too many kids out there in the same situation. It is a shame.

    Comment by kayo — 12:42 pm December 24, 2013 #

  6. He’s obviously chosen the wrong profession on many levels. He’s apparently not very good at it. Maybe he’ll get some good tips while he’s locked up. At thirteen I was earning merit badges in boy scouts. Wonder when in his life he started making such bad choices.

    Comment by 2 Much Whine — 12:50 pm December 24, 2013 #

  7. What a train wreck!!! Where is this kids parents? Lock them up too!!

    Comment by A — 12:52 pm December 24, 2013 #

  8. Why does it always have to be “we”? I don’t deny there are some serious systemic issues that need to be addressed, but I also know when taking human services classes at SCCC, many teachers and students alike blamed the system to the point where there was no personal accountability.

    What about the parents? Where is their responsibility in this? What about the kid, where is his responsibility in this? Somewhere this kid learned the “value” of entitlement to the point where he thinks it is OK to take from other people with no concern to anyone but himself. This kid needs to learn that this is not OK and there also consequences to this type of thinking and actions. This kid is going to pick the wrong house one day and it will probably end tragically for all parties involved.

    Comment by Eric — 12:53 pm December 24, 2013 #

  9. We haven’t failed yet…he’s 13!!

    Comment by jackspara — 12:53 pm December 24, 2013 #

  10. Jan, it is so sad that this child has behaved in this way. Many things have failed this child, but before expanding the blame to “WE have failed this child”, the blame first and foremost should be placed upon his parents. If no parents, then his guardians or immediate family. Next it goes to the peers he chooses to hang with. Then perhaps to other things like our correctional system (or lack thereof), media/TV shows/ video games/music that glorify thug life, community services (or lack thereof), and then if you want to blame myself and other members of the community I suppose that somehow gets folded into the mix.
    .
    I agree with you that it is awful that a child of this age is behaving this way- and is a repeat offender. I take ownership of my actions, and I know you do too (as I have read so many of your posts thru the years, many I agree with.) In this post, though, I kind of respectfully disagree with your blanket statement. As you and I take ownership of our actions, I do think that there are some key people in his life that should also take ownership of their actions and how those actions or the environment created by those actions significantly influenced this boy to choose a criminal life. And, this boy, as he matures, needs to start taking ownership of his actions. I hope our community can provide a positive influence on him as it looks like he isn’t getting it from the key people that should be doing it.
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    Jan, Merry Christmas to you (if you celebrate it) and I wish you good health in 2014!!!

    Comment by ACG — 12:55 pm December 24, 2013 #

  11. Is he out yet?

    Comment by anonyme — 1:17 pm December 24, 2013 #

  12. He can get some great tips from Teideman. As long as he doesn’t physically harm anybody, he’ll keep getting released back into the wild.

    Comment by Alki resident — 1:19 pm December 24, 2013 #

  13. completely agree Eric. This is a sad situation but let’s not say we failed this kid. Plenty of people come from broken homes and turn out to be successful people. Just because you have crappy parents doesn’t give you an excuse to break into people’s houses. We don’t even know if he comes from a broken home. I’ve known people from good homes who turned into thieves so let’s not jump to conclusions and immediately say the parents are to blame. At age 13 you know it’s wrong to break into people’s homes so this kid needs to learn some tough lessons. Also, I know he’s a minor but is there any way to see a pic of him? Would be good for the community to know who he is so we can be on alert if he is spotted in our neighborhood.

    Comment by a — 1:32 pm December 24, 2013 #

  14. this is not a problem with the system. this is not a problem with society.

    this is a problem specifically, absolutely and utterly with the child’s parents.

    Comment by Ray — 1:53 pm December 24, 2013 #

  15. What is all the “we” failed him?
    He is NOT my son, brother, nephew, cousin or any type of relation.
    “We” have not failed him. HIS PARENTS FAILED HIM!!!!
    I’m tired of the “Bleeding Hearts” commenting on these types of crimes and criminals saying society has failed. IF IT HAS, IT IS BECAUSE OF YOUR policies.
    Start holding people, YOUNG and OLD, responsible and accountable for their actions.

    Comment by Ex-Westwood Resident — 2:02 pm December 24, 2013 #

  16. Parenting fail. simple fact.

    Comment by smokeycretin9 — 2:02 pm December 24, 2013 #

  17. Whether or not this kid can be salvaged is pure speculation without knowing the particulars. I’ll speculate that it seems unlikely given the lack of effective resources in the community. But the comments here do point to a core difference between conservatives and progressives concerning parenting. According to George Lakoff in Moral Politics, conservatives see this responsibility as falling entirely on individual parents whereas progressives expect the community to provide resources and support whenever parents are clearly not up to the task. So while JanS seems to voice a progressive perspective in saying “we” failed, I think it’s important to appreciate that “we” always includes the parents first and foremost. But what we have to be concerned about is dealing with situations where the parents fail to raise a morally strong, self-reliant child. Taken to it’s logical conclusion the conservative viewpoint says that if the parents fail that task, society should not be expected to bear the cost of the child’s failure to become a responsible citizen. I think that’s bogus because society will always sustain a cost from these bad family outcomes whether it is in paying for welfare, unemployment, prisons, drug treatment, policing, higher health and property insurance, incompetent workforce, or something similar. Sadly, the resources available to intervene effectively in the early years of these children in bad situations are simply inadequate to the challenge.

    Comment by JTB — 2:02 pm December 24, 2013 #

  18. I agree with the earlier comment — lock the parents up too. There is a total lack of personal responsibility in our society today.

    Comment by John — 2:08 pm December 24, 2013 #

  19. Wondering if it was the guy who robbed us last month near Genessee Hill. Anyway to see what he has stashed away? Cops thought it was someone young and nimble since he climbed up to our second floor porch to get in.

    Comment by Cathy jaramillo — 2:33 pm December 24, 2013 #

  20. If you have been a victim of another crime, please use whatever information you were given at the time – case #, detective name, or … – to ask that question. This is absolutely all the info we have – I don’t even have the suspect’s name, and juveniles don’t appear on the jail register, so my usual back-channel crosschecks aren’t available either – but, after Christmas, I am going to be following up with the Prosecuting Attorney’s Office in hopes of finding out if he’s been charged and so on – TR

    Comment by WSB — 2:46 pm December 24, 2013 #

  21. I would like to see the punk whipped for eternity. Other than that, Merry Christmas.

    Comment by Genesee Hill — 4:13 pm December 24, 2013 #

  22. “We” didn’t fail him and for all we know his Parents didn’t fail him either, for us to say his Parents did is just plain insensitive for all we know they may have done everything they could to make him a upstanding young man, some kids you just can’t give them enough love to know right from wrong.

    Comment by payrollgirl — 4:51 pm December 24, 2013 #

  23. It’s not always the parents’ fault, either.
    .
    Some children turn to crime (or drugs, or whatever), despite coming from a good family with functional, responsible parents.

    Comment by Community Member — 4:59 pm December 24, 2013 #

  24. His PARENTS failed him. WE have to correct the situation…great, another set of “people” who have a child and aren’t responsible for ensuing this kid has a life that doesn’t involve him hurting others and sucking our system dry. Pathetic. This is HIS chance to make it right…he has about four years to figure it out before he plays with the big dogs.

    He is very lucky that he didn’t meet someone home, who would have had every right to defend themselves and their property, and this kid taken out in a box.

    Comment by WTF — 6:14 pm December 24, 2013 #

  25. How can anyone presume, without knowing any background at all, that this is the parents’ fault? It might not be any more their fault than it would be their fault if they had a child with diabetes. Maybe the parents have ignored their responsibility, or maybe they’ve done everything possible – I don’t know, and so far, unless somebody claims to know the family, nobody else on this thread knows either.
    .

    Comment by Community Member — 7:04 pm December 24, 2013 #

  26. After working in juvenile lock-up for msny years, I will say that many apples fall close to the tree AND there are incorrigibles who break their parents back and bank trying to “save” the kid. Jumping to conclusions and pointing fingers serves no purpose. Enjoy your time off, if you have any…

    Comment by whatstrue — 7:31 pm December 24, 2013 #

  27. Community>>>>as you know I agree whole heartily, no one knows unless they know the family personally so lets not judge the parents and just hope this child learns from his mistakes while taking his punishment.

    Comment by payrollgirl — 8:01 pm December 24, 2013 #

  28. “There is a total lack of personal responsibility in our society today.”
    .
    Oh, I’d think things would be much, much worse if that were the case.

    Comment by datamuse — 10:22 pm December 24, 2013 #

  29. How did WE fail him? I don’t believe we are all his parents. His parents failed him and they should pay the consequences too.

    Comment by West Seattle Mom — 9:13 am December 25, 2013 #

  30. Unless you know the family personally, you simply cannot know that the parents failed.

    Comment by whatstrue — 11:14 am December 25, 2013 #

  31. I am believing society as a whole has failed in helping all but a few kids these days.

    Comment by Cinder — 11:36 am December 25, 2013 #

  32. It is simply easier to blame “society” these days instead of holding people accountable for their actions.

    .

    It is an insult to the 13 year old child who gets good grades, is active in sports, and volunteers in his community. They do exist, I am related to one. Did “society” help him with his accomplishments or did he achieve them on his own?

    .

    Life is all about choices.

    Comment by West Seattle Hipster — 2:43 pm December 25, 2013 #

  33. Well considering this kid just got out of jail a week ago for doing the exact same thing, a few scenarios come to mind off the top of my head.

    1. The parent(s) had him on restriction after his release and the kid defied this and went out and re-offended.

    2. The parent(s) are in denial about their kid, much like I’ve often seen when the parents are interviewed, which is tacitly condoning the kid’s behaviors

    3. The parent(s) are POS themselves and have instilled these values in their kids.

    I’d be curious to hear what the parent(s) have to say about this.

    Comment by Eric — 4:57 pm December 25, 2013 #

  34. for certain if I am included in this ‘we have failed this kid stuff’ then that is not accurate.

    second, I believe there is way to much credit being given here. …..whey is there an ‘S’ being used after ‘parentS’. does anyone really think there are 2 parents involved with this kid?

    put someone in juvie once and then if you don’t learn your lesson then it’s off with the big boys in Walla Walla.

    it seems like all the burglaries in West Seattle are now being committed by 13/14 year olds. maybe the word is out in 7th grade that you get a bunch of free passes so steal away as when you get caught nothing happens to you….and then everyone blames everyone but yourself for what you’ve done.

    Comment by joel — 9:54 pm December 25, 2013 #

  35. 13 seriously, that is overwhelming sad! I can relate to all of these comments. As a parent I
    can understand blaming the parents but I don’t know the parents. I however don’t think repeated visits to jail are going to turn the situation around either. I would like to see him receive some supervised community service and mentoring. Please don’t assume by my comment I am a softie My daughters told me that they never got into trouble because mom would be on it! Not dad but mom!!!

    Comment by Laura — 11:27 pm December 25, 2013 #

  36. The kid is a loser…
    Keep him in jail and away from all the kids and adults who are living within societal norms so he cannot harm them…

    Comment by Fritz — 7:31 am December 26, 2013 #

  37. Me thinks some folks need to volunteer some time at juvie… the kids could use the positive role models. Then the blabbering might have some street cred. Good grief.

    Comment by whatstrue — 6:05 pm December 26, 2013 #

  38. Re: Whats’ comment: http://www.kingcounty.gov/courts/detention/juvenile_detention/juvenile_volunteer.aspx

    Comment by WSB — 6:26 pm December 26, 2013 #

  39. I think its safe to say that none of us know this kid, his background, his upbringing, or much of him at all. What he has done is not right, but the public scruntiny of his family on a public forum isn’t either.

    Compassion and understanding goes a long way.
    He sounds like he needs some good correction and people to encourage him to pursue a better way of life.

    Comment by RedHot — 12:45 pm December 29, 2013 #

  40. Well said RedHot. Dad and I are PROUD to call you our daughter. Just for the record she works with teens.

    Comment by Laura — 1:52 pm December 29, 2013 #

  41. Why do people talk so much about these kind of things? Cars get stolen and there isn’t much posted but when it’s a kid involved everyone seems to post in order to prove that they know what parenting is despite west seattle being one of the worst examples of it. The crime watch tab here is typically pretty cringe worthy in that respect because this should be a private matter and nothing anyone says here matters for this kid. Please stop white-knighting here

    Comment by Concerned — 4:54 pm January 1, 2014 #

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