Family that lost 4 members in West Seattle shooting needs help

Just received from Cara Kroenke at Southwest Youth and Family Services, a little over one month after the quadruple murder-suicide in West Seattle:

I’d like to share with you an experience that I just had. At 11:00 this morning, I met with the surviving members of the family that was massacred in West Seattle. … To summarize, the grandmother of the Phan/Harm family, who lived through the genocidal Khmer Rouge attacks of Cambodia PTSD, went off of her medication that helped her deal with her PTSD and fatally shot five members of her family in West Seattle. Her youngest grandchild, Nivia, age 7, was home from school day with a 101 degree fever and witnessed the killings of her father, two sisters(one of whom was pregnant) and the shooting of her mother,Thyda. Grandmother then tried to shoot Nivia, but she ran out of bullets and while she was reloading, Nivia’s 17 year old brother, Kevin, grabbed Nivia and threw her out the window, he then fled himself. As this was happening, grandfather was coming home and heard the final shots as he opened the door, he saw the grandmother take her own life.

They were here at the agency today because they need help. They need counseling, community, love and financial support.

Please join me in contributing what you can; the family is in desperate need of $1800 to pay for the repairs that their landlord is charging them for the damages. Because most of their furniture was bloodstained, or worse, they need furniture and mattresses. The missed shots destroyed many household items as well, so glasses, pots, pillows, etc. would be greatly appreciated too.

The mother is still healing from her gunshot wounds and cannot work. The surviving family is in great need of emotional support, which they will receive from counselors at SWYFS, but they need the basics taken care of, including the $1800 debt, in order to start the healing process, so please if you can donate any money, do. If you would rather support the family with a Safeway or Albertson’s gift card, they greatly need money for food as well. Or, if you have any gently used household items, they would be appreciated as well.

The Phan/Harm family are currently living in temporary housing, but we are working with them to find permanent housing near the children’s schools.

I was able to spend time with Nivia today and we were able to talk about some of her favorite things; stuffed animals, Barbie, movies and books. She would very much like to read the The Magic Treehouse series and is going to be a cat for Halloween. I looked into her eyes and saw joy there; she is very resilient. She was even able to laugh a bit, but told me she can not sleep because she has nightmares; and wasn’t at school today because when she is able to sleep it is on the floor and that that is very uncomfortable and her mother wanted her to get her rest today.

Please keep her and her family in your prayers or thoughts.

Below is a link where you can make a donation. My goal is to raise/have pledges for the whole $1800 by end of day tomorrow. Please work with me so that this can happen for the family. Feel free to call me with questions, or come by the agency to drop off any donations. If you would like to send in a check, a gift card to the grocery store or a letter of encouragement/support, please mail it to:

SWYFS
Attention: Phan/Harm family support
4555 Delridge Way SW
Seattle, WA 98106
Many thanks for rallying with us for the Phan/Harm Family.
For your records, our tax ID # is:911-17862
Donate here link: http://swyfs.org/support_us/

67 Replies to "Family that lost 4 members in West Seattle shooting needs help"

  • switzerblog October 27, 2010 (4:45 pm)

    Oh my god! The landlord is *charging* them for damages? What sort of monster does that?

  • Cclarue October 27, 2010 (5:01 pm)

    How do we know what items they could use specifically? I have an 8 yr old girl with way to much stuff and could make little Nivias day a bit better with lots of girly toys and such. Also have house hold items to give. I just need a list.

  • Marketgal October 27, 2010 (5:01 pm)

    Please keep us up to date. Let us know how close you are to the goal of $1800.
    Thank you!

  • Cclarue October 27, 2010 (5:06 pm)

    I would love to help! Where do we bring donations? I have an 8 yr old girl with way too much stuff!!also what household items specifically? I will bring them tomorrow if I know what and where.

  • Shame on the Landlord October 27, 2010 (5:08 pm)

    Oh my lord, my prayers are with this family, and I have to say, shame on the landlord for throwing this bill at them in their time of dire need.

  • The Velvet Bulldog October 27, 2010 (5:25 pm)

    Genuinely curious as to why the landlord’s insurance won’t cover this cost?

  • Mary T October 27, 2010 (5:31 pm)

    “The landlord is charging them for the repairs.” WHAT

  • Monosyllabic Girl October 27, 2010 (5:40 pm)

    What I would like is the name and phone number of this jerk landlord who won’t forgive the family the damages so I can give him a piece of my mind.

  • Vanessa October 27, 2010 (5:47 pm)

    How many eyes will look at this comment section tonight? If we all just donated $2 dollars or $5 or $10 dollars……If we all gave a little, we could really help a lot…..Thank you for posting the mailing address and making it easy to grab an envelope right now, and mailing a check.

  • Lou October 27, 2010 (5:49 pm)

    Hi,

    We have furniture (queen bed, couch) we planned to get rid of…if you wish to take them they will be available starting Sunday afternoon. You/they would need to pick them up as I have no way to transport these items. If interested, post here and I’ll contact you.

    Thanks

  • Cara October 27, 2010 (5:54 pm)

    Thank you for your concern for this incredible family. KOMO TV just donated $500.00, and we have had a few pledges, but we are nowhere near the $1800. The generosity of clothes and items is wonderful; it reminds me of one of my favorite quotes, “If you can’t feed a hundred people, then feed just one.” ~Mother Teresa

  • Stephanie B October 27, 2010 (5:55 pm)

    The landlord should be ashamed of him or herself!!! Haven’t they been through enough?

  • Kathy October 27, 2010 (6:05 pm)

    Glad to know how to help. Thanks for sharing the need and how to make a donation.

  • Alki Resident October 27, 2010 (6:15 pm)

    Landlord is taking advantage of this horrible situation.I hope someone finds out who he is and never rent his home out again.Karma sucks.I know this entire community will come together and help in any way they can.

  • Anne October 27, 2010 (6:19 pm)

    I just checked the state L&I crime victims compensation program (which seems like it would be applicable) and it does not cover crime scene cleanup, though it does offer some other services that might be of help. http://www.lni.wa.gov/ClaimsIns/CrimeVictims/FileCoverage/Coverage/Default.asp
    Thank you for SWYFS for making the community aware of this.

  • CandrewB October 27, 2010 (6:21 pm)

    How about not paying the landlord? At least not yet anyways.

  • SomeGuy October 27, 2010 (6:25 pm)

    This type of thing reminds me why I could never be a landlord – too much of a softy… “Four family members dead? Sorry but GIVE ME MONEY!”

  • Holli October 27, 2010 (7:03 pm)

    Physical items for can be dropped off at:
    Southwest Youth and Family Services
    4555 Delridge Way SW
    Seattle, WA 98106
    http://www.swyfs.org

    Just found the answer myself. I dunno that the family can pick up, but if anyone wants to coordinate with Lou, the poster above, that’s how it will get to the family.

  • EmmyJane October 27, 2010 (7:57 pm)

    Lou- We fly out of Seattle Sunday around 4 but if it would work for your schedule, we have a truck and could pick up/deliver the bed probably around 12 Sunday. If that’s not too early, email me at hcrea at gonzaga dot edu.

  • Franci October 27, 2010 (8:01 pm)

    I have a day bed with trundle that I am willing to donate to the family. I do not have a way to get it to them. If there is someone out there with a truck or van who would be willing to pick up from me and deliver its theirs, if they want it. I’m in Gatewood.

  • karen October 27, 2010 (8:22 pm)

    Before bashing on the landlord I’d like to hear the reasoning. The landlord is without renter and with damages through no fault of his/her own. In this economy maybe the landlord is in dire financial straights, too.

  • Lou October 27, 2010 (8:30 pm)

    EmmyJane – check your email…11am would work (if earlier is better).

  • reggie navi October 27, 2010 (8:31 pm)

    landlord is public record. I think they are barking up the wrong tree since their property is less desirable now [and neighbors value too] More importantly I do hope this family is well taken care of and kudos to the community helping out. I hope this also calls great attention to the importance of retaining funding for human services to aid families facing mental crisis and prevent future tragedy. I have lived through this as well in recent months.

  • B October 27, 2010 (9:02 pm)

    It is a terrible tragedy. It is a sad situation that the landlord is having to collect from the victims. I agree that the property is very undesirable now. Would the property owners homeowners insurance cover the expenses?

  • WTF October 27, 2010 (9:05 pm)

    I will be there this week to donate.
     
    As far as the landlord, he can kiss my a$$. I don’t care to  “hear” his side of the story; it’s  obvious. Bad things happen in this world whether directly or indirectly where we are effected by the actions of others. Sometimes you just have to accept that what happened “to” us is sometimes not as bad as what happened to another. Suck it up. File an insurance claim. Ask your friends to help make repairs. Sell some of your crap to cover expenses and chalk it up as a cost of doing business. Drop into your conscience and leave this devistated family alone. Spoiled Americans with no clue of the abject suffering of others. The mere fact he asked or insinuated monetary reimbursement to this family is shameful. $1800 is nothing. Right it off and pay it forward.   

  • ellenater October 27, 2010 (9:36 pm)

    Isn’t there a bank fund set up, too? Is that money getting to the family?

    This just keeps getting sadder and sadder. My son would love to pick out Magic Treehouse books for Nivia so we will be bringing those by tomorrow, please let us know of other specifics. I’ve got some household items, also… How about sheets? Seems like that would be needed. Would be good to know what bed sizes they get first.

    Thanks for the great work you are doing, Cara. I will repost your message.

  • Amanda October 27, 2010 (9:48 pm)

    I agree with Karen. Sometimes people have to rent their home for a number of reasons that shouldn’t have judgment attached. It was not the landlord’s fault that this tragic event took place. And although I agree that $1800 is a lot of money – and the timing is terrible – is there ever going to be a good time for this family to resolve that house? I will donate what I can, and I am sure a lot of other people will as well, they will be okay in that respect. And the landlord/owner of that house will have a hell of a time selling/renting in the future. Will we help that person as well if they need it? I hope so.

  • clark5080 October 27, 2010 (9:51 pm)

    This whole situation certainly is not a good one. One bit if information I never heard anymore on was reported I think in the Times early in the story that the guns used in this killing were reported as stolen. Was this ever confirmed or debunked?

    • WSB October 27, 2010 (9:56 pm)

      Police made a point of saying at their briefing (we had a two-person crew there so we heard it firsthand) that the guns were NOT stolen, but their source was being traced. I don’t think the final “where the guns were from” was ever announced, though.

  • ellenater October 27, 2010 (9:54 pm)

    I am pretty sure the grandfather was the registered owner of the guns.

  • NotMe October 27, 2010 (10:28 pm)

    Some of these comments are unbelievable. Thank you WSB for making it an option to read them and not force me to see them. I can’t do it anymore. The advertisements won’t be seen anymore, too. Sorry, but the mean people are too much for me. I quit. To come after the landlord and in one comment, a threat, is uncalled for. For those that made these comments, you should donate at least $100. That would get that 1800 paid off PDQ. Why should should the landlord pay for this AND clean it?
    .
    And these people leaving the comments live among us….

  • rob October 27, 2010 (10:31 pm)

    I have a truck also and would be happy to haul anything anyone needs delivered, anytime.

  • WSB October 27, 2010 (10:42 pm)

    NotMe, I just read all the comments twice to make sure something hadn’t gone unflagged that should have been deleted … What threat are you referring to?

  • iamyou October 27, 2010 (10:53 pm)

    Thanks for the head’s up on their plight. Every time I drive down Roxbury I look at the home with thoughts for the remaining family. I have donated and I hope those with the ability to do so will do the same. Twenty-one years ago an acquaintance of mine lost her life in a murder and left her young child without a mother. I wish I could have done more for her family back then, but in her memory I try to give in these types of circumstances. Peace to the family.

  • D.Reno October 28, 2010 (1:37 am)

    Don’t pay the scumbag land lord. Let him surface and show his face in a court trying to sue the family. Then at least we would all know who this is.

  • visitor October 28, 2010 (3:11 am)

    yeah, I have to agree with notme about the inappropriate comment from WTF. WE know nothing about the landlord’s situation and to cast him as the evil one here is just wrong. The house could belong to an elderly person who is just barely getting by. Maybe this landlord is a generous person who charged below market value, maybe it’s an immigrant person who scrimped and saved to purchase an investment, I mean, it could be ANYONE with ANY circumstance. What is the anger towards the landlord about? What about the gas company, Seattle Public utilities, car insurance, college tuition? Are you similarly angry at them because they want payment? (and these are all BIG companies who could afford a waiver much easier than an individual landowner)? The bills don’t ever stop, for no one and for nothing. Some are willing to be kind and generous to a crime victim, but not to anyone else? Demonize someone you don’t even know? That’s not charity. It’s fake window-dressing.

  • west seattle person October 28, 2010 (5:54 am)

    I sent a donation through the SW Family Services website. Hopefully it won’t take too long to get processed.

    While I feel horrible for the family, I also feel for the landlord. Honestly, I’d like to see a fund set up to repair the house too. I’m not a landlord, but something like this could easily equal financial ruin for them too.

    I guess some people get irrational and need someone to blame. Easy to do in horrible situations like this.

  • homesweethome October 28, 2010 (7:04 am)

    I feel for all sides, the family involved and the landlord – who now has a property that is virtually unrentable. It now must be disclosed that someone was murdered in the house whether in renting it out or selling (if someone dies of natural causes in a home this does not have to be disclosed). So while 1800 seems like a lot, it could be a total loss of the property, of course another renter or buyer may not care which would be fortunate for the landlord. The family has gone through a terrible horror and if we all pitch in, perhaps their pain will be lessened. Making the landlord a villain is irrational.

  • WS MOM October 28, 2010 (7:40 am)

    I have an almost new Twin bed and stuffed animals for little NIvia. Please let me know if those items are still needed and will be happy to drop them off today.

    My heart goes out to Nivia and her family..

  • Cara October 28, 2010 (7:45 am)

    On behalf of SWYFS, thank you for your concern and generosity toward the family. I will be speaking with them today and will keep you posted on more of the specific needs that they have, ie bed size, etc. I will also update you on the money raised so far. Any excess beyond the $1800 (if there is any) will go to help the family pay for deposits at their new home and other moving fees. Please call SWYFS at 206-937-7680*225 with any questions, or come by to drop off items at SWYFS 4555 Delridge Way SW, 98106 Thank you again!

    Cara Kroenke
    Fundraising & Special Events Director
    Southwest Youth & Family Services
    ckroenke@swyfs.org
    http://www.swyfs.org

  • Monosyllabic Girl October 28, 2010 (8:02 am)

    Who gives a flying rip what the landlords circumstances are?!?! Did he/she just have 4 family members tragically murdered? Seriously, what could be worse than that? We are all such slaves to the $ that we have forgotten how to be compassionate to our fellow humans.

  • 35this35mph October 28, 2010 (8:48 am)

    Thanks WSB, thanks SWYFS. “Landlord” is such an emotionally laden word. My initial impulse is “@@@$^!%^#&# that landlord!” but I think the cooler heads here are right. We know nothing of the homeowner’s circumstances. I only hope they are motivated by need not callousness.

    • WSB October 28, 2010 (8:53 am)

      Interesting point on the word. I wouldn’t assume necessarily “property owner” because many properties are managed by someone other than the owner, and that person then becomes the “landlord.”

  • CandrewB October 28, 2010 (8:51 am)

    Cost of doing business.

  • Kristina October 28, 2010 (8:55 am)

    I don’t want to debate about who owes who what.

    I just want to reach out, as a community, to hold this family. I want to envision that little girl sleeping in a BED. I want to imagine that they have hot food on their table. I want to imagine that they can focus on healing, instead of wondering how to keep clothed and fed.

    I love the generous offers here. I will do my own small thing, as small is what I can do right now, but if we all do just a little, we can help this family get back on their feet. Nothing will ever replace their true losses….but at least we can make them more comfortable and secure, at least we can let them feel the love of their neighbors.

    WSB, if it weren’t for your coverage, I wouldn’t have thought twice about this after the initial “oh how awful” from the original news reports. Thank you for spurring me/us into action to help out neighbors by posting this story.

  • sophista-tiki October 28, 2010 (9:04 am)

    I deleted my comment earlier because I was going to stay out of this one.
    BUT… not everyone can just afford to EAT 1800 bucks. Its not the landlords fault this happened.
    If WTF thinks 1800 bucks is nothing then maybe he should put HIS money where his MOUTH is.

    You have no idea what their rental agreement stated and for all you know the landlord could be well within his rights to ask for damages. Compassion doesn’t pay your bills in the real world. Judging by all the comments trashing the homewoner for trying to maintain his income makes you all look like elitists who apparently don’t need a steady pay check to stay afloat every month.
    Filing a claim and expecting to actually get paid from the scam called insurance is not a sure bet. We all know insurance companies will find every way possible to weesle out of a pay out. Who could posibly anticipate “massacre” as something needed to be written into a policy.
    The only reason you are all outraged by this is because of the way the letter was written. It was composed with the intention of stacking the deck against the “evil” landlord and makig the family appear even more victimized.
    Had the letter been written just simply stating that there was an immediate need for funds to cover unforseen expenses then we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

  • KBear October 28, 2010 (9:10 am)

    It doesn’t matter what the landlord’s circumstances are. Yes, the landlord is a victim here, too. The financial implications to the landlord may be devastating, and $1800 may be a drop in the bucket compared to the loss of rental value. But that doesn’t mean the shooting victims owe the landlord money for repairs. That’s just cruel and heartless. Not everyone can afford to eat $1800? Well, not everyone can afford to lose 4 family members, either.

  • sophista-tiki October 28, 2010 (9:17 am)

    no one is arguing that point

  • CandrewB October 28, 2010 (9:21 am)

    “Please join me in contributing what you can; the family is in desperate need of $1800 to pay for the repairs that their landlord is charging them for the damages.”

    Should read: Please join me in contributing what you can to the murdered family’s landlord who is in need of $1800 for repairs to his/her property.

  • brittany October 28, 2010 (9:25 am)

    first- what a lovely and heartfelt letter. thank you, SWYFS, for all you do for our community.

    as for the $1800 repair bill- is there no contractor in west seattle/white center that would like to step up and help out with the repairs? of course the landlord shouldn’t be burdened with the full brunt of the financial loss, but neither should the family. maybe someone can help out?

  • cclarue October 28, 2010 (9:26 am)

    Could a group of wsb’ers get together and physically do some of the repairs in the name of the family so that the lanlord didnt need all 1800.00?

  • cclarue October 28, 2010 (9:27 am)

    Brittany your fingers were typing quicker than mine but amen to your idea!!

  • RG October 28, 2010 (9:33 am)

    How about we simply make the $1800 a non-issue for the family. Between all of us here we can each pay a little and make it go away; and let the property manager/landlord(s) deal with their conscience and/or karma.

  • Grant October 28, 2010 (9:40 am)

    I made an online donation less time than it took to read all the self-righteous, acrimonious comments on this thread. I hope the authors of said comments took some action beyond expressing hollow outrage about a micro-issue within a situation about which they don’t know all the facts.

    My condolences to the family and all who are affected by this tragedy.

  • vortex2.71 October 28, 2010 (9:41 am)

    I think its important to remember to come together as a community here and not to lash out as a community. I think the fault for this landlord controversy really should go to the social service agency who chose to specifically cite the rental damages in this note rather than just citing “bills”. This family certainly faces other bills also and these were not specifically cited. Given that the “landlord controversy” is hijacking this post would WSB consider contacting the social service agency and asking them to change the post to cite “bills” in a more general sense? This seems like it would be the best way to get the community moving forward in a positive manner and achieve the result that we all desire. My thoughts are with everyone affected by this tragedy.

  • sophista-tiki October 28, 2010 (9:44 am)

    agreed. the landlord lynching is off topic of the intended post

  • moxilot October 28, 2010 (10:25 am)

    I have access to a box truck and am willing to assist in transporting items to a drop off location. You can email me at rwebb1204 at gmail to coordinate a time.

    I know this was just posted yesterday afternoon, but is there any way a list can be posted as to what has already been donated? I mean, no sense in bringing over 20 beds unless they can be re-distributed.

  • a nice girl in a big town October 28, 2010 (12:44 pm)

    I know everyone is commenting on here with good intentions- there’s no way a self-respecting person could pass up such a tragedy without feeling some sort of complusion to reach out.
    Please don’t waste your time judging the landlord or eachother, spend that energy helping our community out. I pass by this house every day on my commute, and the orange cone is a sad reminder of that day. I’ve lost important people to me before- but this is just horrifying.

  • CandrewB October 28, 2010 (1:04 pm)

    Slightly different spin at the West Seattle Herald:

    “The landlord for the family is demanding $1800 in damages be paid because most of the furniture was bloodstained and many household items were destroyed by gunshots.”

    FWIW, I did buy a QFC card @ lunch and will mail. No self-rightousness, just something doesn’t sound right here.

  • Cara October 28, 2010 (1:06 pm)

    THANK YOU to everyone who is helping the family! SWYFS is beyond lucky to have such a loving community. We have raised the $1800 thanks to you and are now using the remaining money to help cover the costs of moving. They will be moving into two seperate households (if all goes as planned) and will need deposit money, moving help and whatever gently used household items you might have. Does anyone know of a good storage company here in West Seattle? We could really use a small space to store the larger items until they move into permanent housing. Thank you for all you do to help SWYFS make the community safer and supported! Yours, Cara

    • WSB October 28, 2010 (1:10 pm)

      Cara, you might check with Stor-Mor, not far from your offices. They are a WSB sponsor (and we have dealt with them for mail services ever since becoming a business). They’re managed by a couple who lives on-site.

  • visitor October 28, 2010 (1:07 pm)

    good point, vortex2.71and sophista

  • DMC October 28, 2010 (1:22 pm)

    Just spoke to Cara and she sounds like such a wonderful, sweet woman. Looking forward to dropping off our donations for this family. Sounds like the other family member may be needing stuff too.

  • alkikmac October 28, 2010 (2:26 pm)

    Please don’t assume all the damages the landlord is charging for was caused from the shooting. There were lots of people living in the house and there could have been damages caused by the tenants prior to the devastating event. And considering what happened, their lucky it’s only $1800. Just replacing pad & carpeting would cost at least that much.

    Was this a fully furnished rental? I don’t know too many houses or apartments in West Seattle that come with furniture and household items. Makes me think the damages are actually to walls, carpets, maybe appliances.

  • Dawn October 28, 2010 (2:51 pm)

    This is a horrible tragedy and the landlords insurance is suppose to cover things like this and if it doesnt that is not the problem of the victims. They do not need to pay their rent in a case like this. No judge would side with the landlord if he was dumb enough to try and sue them. But the $1800 should be used to find them new housing.

  • Shannon October 29, 2010 (7:49 am)

    I don’t know this lady. I don’t know the “landlord”. All I know is that I would never want to be in her shoes. I’m going golfing today. If I can spend $50 to hit little white balls around a field, I can spend $100 to help her try and put behind her something that no one on this comment board will ever have to do. Drop the conversations about the greedy landlord, finish ordering your $4 coffees, and start donating…

    And pray that you will never have your family taken from you, like she did.

  • Ron November 3, 2010 (7:51 pm)

    Be gentle on the landlord, too. We don’t know what his/her situation is. Times are tough for a lot of us.

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