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March 27, 2012 at 4:04 am #752779
mpentoParticipantImagine how many unpopular decisions are being deferred until after the next election. The whole economic doldrums really needs some tough choices and no one is going keep saying “cut spending increase taxes” before an election. All I’m hearing is help the economy, make more jobs. Sounds good but how is America so different from Europe? Eat, drink and be merry for tomorrow….
March 27, 2012 at 4:04 am #752780
jamminjMemberfuk this is ridiculous we are on this, but here is bush bowing before a saudi prince.
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/pictures/ZZ72682359.jpg
March 27, 2012 at 4:09 am #752781
jamminjMemberKootch: “Yep… you all wished for it, pushed for it.. now ya got it.”
yes, we got it, a mistake, a right leaning president trying to mandate ideas proposed by the GOP.
March 27, 2012 at 5:19 am #752782
JoBParticipantcan anyone explain to me why so many of our local republicans don’t seem to be able to get their point across without name calling?
March 27, 2012 at 5:47 am #752783
redblackParticipantkootch:
Sometimes ya just can’t resist a good cheap shot!
this explains a lot of your posts.
March 27, 2012 at 8:20 am #752784
kootchmanMemberha ha ha … really JoB? Just republicans?
March 27, 2012 at 8:22 am #752785
HMC RichParticipantI’ll take a cheap shot of vodka. In fact that will be what Obama will be trading for when he cuts our Nuke arsenal by 80%, limits speed on ABM’s, limits all drilling on Federal Lands while blaming it on the Republicans. (No budget from the Senate in over 1050 days, and bigger debt in three years than eight from Bush).
Funny, on Obamacare, you had to vote on it before you needed to read it, but the Keystone Pipeline could not be OK’d because they needed more time to please the environmental Wackos.
He is a USEFUL IDIOT and we are paying the price, especially at the pump.
Dobro, No President or Congress has ever mandated making private citizens, buy something from a private company, and if they don’t they will get fined.
Go read the Constitution. You might learn why this Healthcare Act is unconstitutional. Why the Federal Government has no jurisdiction over mandating health care.
This is not about health care, it is about control. But if you want to be more of a slave to the government, go right ahead.
March 27, 2012 at 8:24 am #752786
kootchmanMemberDid Obama take the oath of office ? Or is Bush still down in the bunker handing out “to do” notes?
March 27, 2012 at 12:45 pm #752787
JoBParticipantkootch…
just because you finally got a response when you pushed too many buttons doesn’t meant that you get a hall pass for the name calling that generated the response…
lately your posts have been downright bigoted…
are you pandering to that ignorant base you hope will pull the big lever on the elephant?
you might have picked the wrong venue for that.
March 27, 2012 at 3:24 pm #752788
dobroParticipantBack to the original question. Here’s President Obama today…
“The only way I get this stuff done is If I’m consulting with the Pentagon, with Congress, if I’ve got bipartisan support and frankly, the current environment is not conducive to those kinds of thoughtful consultations,” Obama told reporters following a meeting with the presidents of Russia and Kazakhstan. “I think the stories you guys have been writing over the last 24 hours is pretty good evidence of that.”
Now, let me translate that into Bizarro World-speak…
The only way I get to control healthcare, institute Sharia Law, and impose my Muslim-Kenyan agenda on America is by waiting til after I steal the election. I can’t do it til then due to heroic Republicans standing up for America by blocking all activity in Congress except for post office naming.
How’d I do?!
March 27, 2012 at 5:45 pm #752789
JVMemberdobro, I’ll ignore your Bizarro stuff because it doesn’t warrant a response.
Getting back on topic, you think Obama is interested in working in a bipartisan manner?
Again, the only bipartisan consensus on Obamacare was the people on both sides of the aisle working against it. (thats’s how checks and balances work…thank you Constitution)
Also, if disarming us was so important, why didn’t he pass it in the first 2 years of his administration when the D’s controlled everything?
Answer: because he would have to explain it to the American public, and he has calculated that it would hurt him politically. So after this election, he has as much leeway as he wants to do whatever he determines is necessary. Assuming he is reelected…and that’s a huge assumption.
March 27, 2012 at 6:33 pm #752790
JanSParticipantJV..none of them are interested in bipartisanship at this juncture. Yet, that’s what we put them there for. You think Romney will do better? Santorum? Seriously? You and I have no idea how difficult the job of prez is. You and I have our ideas and solutions for how things should or shouldn’t be done and run. If those ideas were so good, then perhaps you/me, and those who believe like you/me should step up, and do it better than it’s being done.Or we can sit and complain, which is most likely the case.
March 27, 2012 at 7:16 pm #752791
dbseaMemberThis entire forum will make for some handy wiping paper.
I sure hope our children are able to do better when it’s their turn.
March 27, 2012 at 10:07 pm #752792
kootchmanMemberYa did ok Dobro..cept the Post Office part. There are 42 House bills currently in the US Senate. The House has submitted two budget bills. The Senate will not act on them. Barry is just mystified.. people are looking past the oratory … now what?
March 27, 2012 at 10:19 pm #752793
JVMemberJan, I have to disagree…respectfully! =)
We don’t send politicians to Washington just for bipartisanship, we send them there mainly to represent the will of the people. That sometimes results in bipartisanship.
This brings me back to the initial conversation about Obama’s intentions when whispering to Russia’s Medvedev. He knows that he will not be representing the will of the majority of the American people by cutting our defenses, and he knows that he could only get away with doing it after his last election. I don’t think he will be representing the will of the American people, otherwise why would he have to be secretative about this?
March 27, 2012 at 10:35 pm #752794
kootchmanMemberGet the Senate…. there will be no treaty that doesn’t reflect the will of the people. The veneer of trust is gone. He wore it out. He gets no pass on anything anymore. The TEA party is right on target… getting the Senate is crucial. And .. they are more vulnerable. Let’s see him pack the Supreme Court without Senate confirmation. Too many red states … the beauty of the Senate. Arkansas has as much juice as CA, WA, NY, etc. Even if Obama manages to squeeze the magic Dobro 8% …. there are 50 states… most are red. Democrats have to defend 23 seats…all of those Democrats are going to have to answer for Obamacare, no budget in over 1000 days, stimulus spending that went to blue states … the Super Pacs are going to the ground game. Obama isn’t strong enough to drag the tail of the party any longer.
March 27, 2012 at 10:42 pm #752795
JanSParticipanthmmm…I suppose, JV, that would mean that you have an inside knowledge as to what the American people really want. Not what the polls say.. but what’s really true. Therein lies the problem. No one officially asks me what I want. I’m not invited into their polls. So..how do we know what everyone wants? We know what you want…because you have stated it on here. But..do you truly know what your neighbor wants?
March 27, 2012 at 11:48 pm #752796
jamminjMember“he will not be representing the will of the majority of the American people by cutting our defenses”
so now the will is a large govt? which is it? You don’t trust the govt to give health care to people private enterprise won’t, yet you want to give that same government gross massive power of our weapons and military. Which is it, do you trust your govt or not?
The military can be gutted by over 30%, streamlined and still remain the juggernaut that it is and be the most powerful.
And since you think a president should rule by popular vote (the supposed ‘will of the people’) –
Rasmussen – 48% of Adults feel it is possible to significantly reduce military spending without putting the American people at risk. Thirty-seven percent (37%) disagree and do not believe major defense cuts come without risk. Fifteen percent (15%) are not sure.
So there you go, the will of the people, sounds as if Obama was doing exactly what you wanted him to do.
March 27, 2012 at 11:54 pm #752797
jamminjMember” stimulus spending that went to blue states … “
well kiss my red state grits. Red states take in the bulk of federal money, much more so than the blue states.
Red states are the welfare queens of this country. You tell the libs to voluntarily pay more taxes if they want, how about stop taking all the tax money then.
March 28, 2012 at 12:04 am #752798
kootchmanMemberDepends on how the cuts are made. The warfighters never get the chance. Congress keeps production lines open for equipment the Army doesn’t want. Bases in congressional districts kept open for the votes. I want to hear from the professionals.
March 28, 2012 at 12:08 am #752799
jamminjMemberWe don’t need as much ‘warfighters’ anymore. Yes because we cave in to private businesses that want to build the stuff, but hey, according to you guys, private enterprise knows so much more than the govt simpletons. As far as keeping bases open, we need a leader to make the tough choices, not the poll following politicians you guys want.
March 28, 2012 at 12:10 am #752800
jamminjMember“I want to hear from the professionals.”
you mean the military professionals that warned us from starting a war with Iraq, why listen to them now?
March 28, 2012 at 12:16 am #752801
kootchmanMembernot quite jamminj
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/06/research_desk_responds_do_cons.html
And the stimulus money went blue as blue could be,
March 28, 2012 at 12:20 am #752802
jamminjMemberfrom the article you just posted:
” whether it’s true that Republican states are more likely to get more in federal expenditures than they pay in taxes.
This is, in fact, true”
March 28, 2012 at 12:23 am #752803
jamminjMember“http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/04/the_red_state_ripoff.html”
those in blue states are subsidizing those in red states. Both red and blue states appear to be acting politically in opposition to their economic interests.
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