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June 28, 2012 at 5:55 pm #761029
kootchmanMemberwanna see some Obama speeches and promises?
June 28, 2012 at 7:13 pm #761030
megMemberI wasn’t talking about Obama. If folks are too tired to press play and see the minute video, then, here ya go. Here’s what the Barney Frank mouth said, in 2005:
“This is a very important resolution, particularly at this time, because we have, I think, an excessive degree of concern right now about home ownership and it’s role in the economy. Obviously, speculation is never a good thing, but those who argue that housing prices are now at the point of a bubble seem to me to be missing a very important point. Unlike previous examples we have had where substantial excessive inflation in prices later caused some problems, we are talking here about an entity, home ownership – homes – where there is not the degree of leverage that we have seen elsewhere. This is not the dot come situation. We had problems with people having invested in business plans for which there was no reality, people building fiber-optic cable for which there was no need. Homes that are occupied may see an ebb and flow in the price at a certain percentage level, but you are not going to see the collapse that you see when people talk about a bubble. So those of us on our committee in particular will continue to push for home ownership.”
~CarryMyHonorableLunchpail, 2005
June 28, 2012 at 7:20 pm #761031
megMemberSure Kootch. Let it rip.
June 28, 2012 at 7:21 pm #761032
kootchmanMemberOh I have linked that speech and others by Maxine Walters, Chuck Shumer, Bwany Fwank, et al…. it makes nary a difference to liberals… it was the horrible banks that took the lowered FHA standards and the promise they would buy em if the banks would write em’…. government playing with markets they have no clue about how to organize or supervise. Now on to destroy the health care system… let’s see how bloated, inefficient and bankrupt we can make that. Get ready millenials,,, here comes anothor brown floatie in the pool of your everlasting debt.
June 28, 2012 at 7:25 pm #761033
JanSParticipantthat was 2005..this is 2012. How many legislators, besides Barney Frank, have changed their views since then. Are you saying he’s the only one? And the gay bashing was directed at making fun of his name, and his speech impediment. It gets us nowhere to do that. I don’t constantly make fun of Boehner’s range color, or crying. It’s silly. But..people seem to think that making fun of Barney Frank at every turn, because he’s an older gay man, is perfectly OK.
Barney Frank was wrong in 2005…but he wan’t the only one. Not many saw the collapse in the housing industry in 2005. Hindsight is a great thing, isn’t it?
June 28, 2012 at 7:27 pm #761034
JanSParticipantoh, yes, Kootch, the sky is falling, the sky is falling…
June 28, 2012 at 7:36 pm #761035
megMemberSoon it will be time, once again, to pretend you have a choice.
1. BARRY, Current Corrupt Emperor & Head Sock Puppet for his Corporate Parasitic Sponsors.
2. MITT, Wanna-be New Corrupt Emperor & Head Sock Puppet for SAME, see above.
“Slip yer warm hand up my shirt back and make my mouth open and shut, like I’m really talking. Oh, and put yer other hand into my pocket. Ahhhh, feels so good.” ~SockPuppet4Prez2012
June 28, 2012 at 7:49 pm #761036
JanSParticipantmeg…as unhappy as some peole are with the present president, I laugh (sometimes out loud) when some people think that Romney is going to be the new savior of this country. Cynical me says…I don’t think so.
We do have to change the way we do elections…all of this money buying them, buying the candidates, sure does preclude some people from even thinking about it. We are doing this to ourselves, I’m afraid.
Heard a good one the other day..if corporations are people, can I please see their birth certificates?
June 28, 2012 at 8:17 pm #761037
megMemberNo no no, LOTS of people saw the housing/financial bubble coming and were wringing their hands over it, especially by 2005. We had just come out of another bubble, fer crist sakes. Why aren’t you the least bit mystified by his statement: “…there are those who argue that housing prices are now at the point of a bubble…”
Why aren’t his lunchpail carriers asking more about those “bubble arguments” that Frank refers to and then casually dismisses, in 2005?
Silly, ABSOLUTELY Everyone sees a major crash once the truck hits the wall at 100MPH. There are shards of glass and metal and bodies splattered everywhere. god, even the animals in the area know it, by the time it hits.
Funny. I thought we voted in these over-paid, over-compensated, over-insured and over-pensioned-for-life, gold-watch bastards to help us avoid crashes. I thought we voted them in because they were so informed and so smart and could see and know better to steer our country keeping stability and future prosperity as the goal, putting on brakes WELL BEFORE any major crashes happened. You know? Brakes applied before the wall hits your windshield —the earlier, the better? Like the average-IQ driver on the road. At least RECOGNIZE we were entering the event horizon in 2005? Do something FUCKING EARLIER than at CRASH TIME, Thank you Very Much.
If this Honorable A-hole Lunchpail is as incapable of putting 2+2 together, because he’s in good company with every other moron out there, then he should be physically removed from Congress. Immediately.
Perhaps he can run a Laundro-Mat, causing very little harm.
(I don’t give a RA who or what he gets a hard-on with.)
June 28, 2012 at 8:33 pm #761038
JanSParticipantwe think we’re putting smarter people in office…in actuality, it may not be true. They are humans just like the rest of us. They are fallible. And..they are greedy…money will get you an election these days, no matter what you believe. All those Tea Party pwoplw who got elected in 2010 had their eyes opened…they were surprised at the bogged down nature os our gov’t., disillusioned that they couldn’t just walk in there and change things. They didn’t get the process.
And, Meg, when the people of Mass. get tired of Barney Frank they will vote him out. Just like anyone else can be voted out. Have you paid any attention to the ones in your state lately?
Barney Frank, no matter how you feel about him, is not the epitome of evil. And, sadly, there are many people who will condemn him simply because of his choice of bed partner.
June 28, 2012 at 9:35 pm #761039
megMemberI totally agree. There’s a mammoth machine-like corporation sitting on the eastern seaboard it’s called The U.S. Federal Government Corporation. Every once in a while, a few non-D and non-R reformers are elected by the people to make changes to this corpo-machine and they optimistically head off to D.C. only to get the shock of their lifetime. There’s no access for them. None. It’s access only for Sock-Puppets.
So why vote, citizen? More to the point, why pick any one of the blue-reds? Especially since “SockPuppets4Prez2012” does not care which one of the two puppets you pick?
Oh, that’s right. The OTHER color is way evil-er. Can’t have it win, can we? Tsk tsk. All hell would break loose worse than now.
(whispered) OK, tiny believer. Now put your small hand into my big corpo-politico one. Just one question I have: “Are you Fired up and Ready to go?” “Fired up! Ready to Go!”
There’s a good little sheep.
June 28, 2012 at 11:21 pm #761040
JanSParticipantwell, now, if you don’t vote, and just leave it to the other folks, where does that leave you when you want to bitch? No vote? no complaining…has always been my theory.
June 29, 2012 at 12:45 am #761041
megMemberNope.
If you vote, then You don’t have any right to bitch. Cuz You elected another dishonest incompetent sock puppet who got into office (or back into office) in order to screw everything up. OTOH, when I don’t vote – or I write in someone who I know isn’t gonna get votes but IS not a puppet – then I have every right to Bitch, and I will bitch loudly about the stinking Mess you created when you voted blue-red Shit back into office. I will blame every voter who picked crap from the RedBlueSockPuppet4Prez2012 ticket.
I agree with George Carlin, may he rest in peace, who was a Rare truth-teller. He called it and said it … “The people are to blame.” The people, Jan. Not the politicians or the govt. The people are to blame.
June 29, 2012 at 12:50 am #761042
JanSParticipantI love George Carlin…on the other hand…not exactly crazy about your “the sky is falling, we are doomed” ideas. Somehow, I still have hope…guess it’s how I look at the world…attitude makes a difference, at least to me.
June 29, 2012 at 1:32 am #761043
megMemberI love GC. You love GC. But, do you know what attitude he advocated? Let him rip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIraCchPDhk
It ain’t my idea, Jan. GC was/is a great model for truth-seeking, truth-speaking. Truth often hurts, at first, and as we remain with it it stops hurting and becomes liberating. The message? Well, one message GC had: things ain’t gonna get better, unless the tiny believers are able to stomach things getting different, first. How much different? A lot.
So. Whatcha been doing for decades, putting Xs in boxes on election day? For decades, whatcha been thinking about dat ‘other side’, dem dirty bastards? They killing the country. They all rich jesus-hugging haters carrying guns, who despise poor needy folks. They all soft-headed god-haters with baby killing welfare parasite instincts, intent to paralyze the USA. Pew pew.
June 29, 2012 at 2:31 am #761044
oddrealityParticipantIt’s going to be like this till election day isn’t it?
June 29, 2012 at 2:48 am #761045
kootchmanMembercar crash? Makes no difference, as long as they can hook a ride to the nearest 7-11. The housing bubble, Bawny was railing on and on about, was when congressional republican were calling for an audit of Fannie and Freddie…. everything was peachy keen… as long as you kept the auditors out of the building. oddreality, and everafter. How are they going to pull it off without the most massive tax increase ever levied on the middle class? They can’t. Have you ever known ANY federal cost and revenue projections to remotely accurate over the long haul? I can’t think of a one.
June 29, 2012 at 4:19 am #761046
megMemberoddreality murmured:
“It’s gonna be like this until the election, huh?”
Geez, really can’t say. But, I do have a powerful question for you:
“Are you fired UP? Are you ready to GO?”
“You Fired up? You Ready to go?”
Hooray for us tiny believers! My sock puppet, my sock puppet, oh how I trust my sock puppet.
Now I gotta go shear some wool. baaaa. bye.
June 29, 2012 at 8:14 am #761047
kootchmanMemberwhat I would do. Go fishing, learn how how to catch, clean, smoke your catch. Learn to shoot, hunt, large game and upland hunting. Stay healthy enough to forage. Don’t buy a house, reread Pearl S Buck, the good earth. buy agriculture land. a three acre parcel will more than suffice for a large family. The american consumes have remarkably been shedding debt n anticipation of what will be a protracted de leverage. Unless you have been under a rock… see California.. a mini WA DC…. the Obamacare enticement will offer generous (but borrowed) money to save the states money… to implement the plan. The all the elements fade in three years and the states will pick up the tab. This California who is contemplating cutting 20 days a year from the school year ,,, and what will Obamacare cost California after year three? Over 2.5 billion…. May I suggest Commander COdy and his Lost Planet Airman… “”Been to Georgia on a fast train: for the old iPod … you will know liberals by their sunned looks of incomprehension. 29 states are now free to reject Obamacare.. without having to raise taxes… those will be the growth states.The coyote will become the new national symbol,
June 29, 2012 at 8:24 am #761048
kootchmanMemberHere ya go
Note that Grankin Raines was found guilty of epedemic fraud… the Democratic Senate and House refused to to take uo the measure to conduct simple audits.
June 29, 2012 at 12:57 pm #761049
redblackParticipantJV: i was talking specifically about this sentence:
DBP, I think Barney calls it the “Bawney Fwank Pweasure Factowy”
a two-fer! bravo. referring to sex fetishism, right? because that’s all gay men think about, right?
now explain it away and tell me how overly-sensitive i am, and how you would freely talk like that at the gay pride parade without fear of being punched in the mouth.
see, some of us were raised not to intentionally say things like that – even if you think them! – because it’s rude.
meg: you obviously don’t understand the words that came from the honorable representative’s mouth.
he was referring to people, and the fact that more people were getting into homes, which is a good thing. get it? people and homes. more people in homes.
uncoupled from the money transactions.
he was not referring to the sudden avalanche of mortgage paper that came washing through the canyons of wall street and tanked the economy. because at the time, very few people saw that mortgage-backed securities had bad credit risks bundled with good. no one believed then that wall street could possibly be that greedy and stupid.
June 29, 2012 at 5:35 pm #761050
megMember#119,
Word. I am trying, staying outta debt, eating weeds n getting whoop of laughter from onlookers, raising/slaughtering my little animals, planting and fighting crap weather for weeks or eff’ng crows who pull out my seedlings when the sun’s out and leave them roots up drying and shriveled on top of the soil. in seattle. Now how we gonna buy ag land, without debt? And how I’m gonna pay dem taxes if I’m working all day trying to produce food and shelter for us and NOT trying to produce EFF’ng money. You read? Better to hunt, but all I got is some good slaughtering knives. Gotta go figure out how to find some money to get me a gun. Shit.
June 29, 2012 at 6:07 pm #761051
megMemberRB, what part of the following Hon. Lunchpail speech is not clear to you?
“…we are talking here about an entity, home ownership – homes – where there is not the degree of leverage that we have seen elsewhere.” ~2005 B. Frank, to the Congress
RB are you clearly confusing “GETTING into a home” with “BUYING a home”?? First is good. Second is not necessarily good, when using lots of leverage and ignoring economic risk.
Frank is not confused. He clearly says, “home ownership” not “getting into a home”. Frank wasn’t speeching to Congress about american Renters. After that, he continues by dismissing the risks that concerned others saying, “…home ownership, where there is not the degree of leverage we have seen elsewhere.”
Oh yeah, baby. LOTS of people knew it, and believed wall st., politiciansockpuppets, and the dumb-ass american public were that greedy. And THOSE were some of the warnings that the FrankSockPuppet was dismissing openly in this 2005 video …which we will share in future fairy tales for our wee children.
June 29, 2012 at 6:41 pm #761052
JVMemberredblack, that is “gay-bashing?” Your mind took it to the next 2 levels, so you can deal with that on your own. You’ve over played your race-card on this one.
Honestly, I don’t care what Bawney does in his basement. I care about his bad policies. And his inability to pronounce the letter R is just icing on the cake for my own amusement.
“I can’t bewieve it is thow hawd to find a fwickin’ decent speech thewapist awound hewe!! This is widicuwous!! I AM A WESPECTABLE MEMBEW OF THA US CONGWESS FOW CWYIN’ OUT WOWD, AND I THOUND LIKE A FWICKIN’ MUPPETT!!”
June 29, 2012 at 7:40 pm #761053
dobroParticipantI guess you don’t realize that most people, when confronted with someone who makes fun of other people’s speech impediments, think to themselves
“What an a**hole that guy is.”
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