Seattle Metro bus attack (video)

[JoB]

jiggers..

i just visited grandkids where the story of the day was two fights.. one over a cookie that ended in a broken bone and the other over a remark make in class that also ended in some pretty serious injuries.. tho no broken bones…

the first involved two boys and the second two girls.

Both occured in an upscale high school..

and all of the students were white.

the only difference is that neither incident made the evening news

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[JoB]

hooper1961…

i am guess the dads of the kids involved in this week’s fracas at the grandkid’s high school felt the way you do….

not he example we want to set if we don’t want public brawls on our city’s buses.

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[BigPhil]

I’ll echo the sentiment; nothing to do with race, everything to do with environment and attitude. If it had anything to do with race, then certainly we’d expect our own President to be violently rebuking everyone.

Communities that allow (even encourage) this behavior are the problem, as are the ‘bystander effect’ civilians who refuse to act when something so wrong is happening. In fairness, from the video it’s very clear who is in the wrong, but someone on the bus who only notices a few minutes in, it’s not really clear who is “in the wrong.” Nonetheless, I’m not sure why anyone hesitates to call 911 the moment they see assault. Any assault of any kind is a crime, regardless of whether it is a man hitting a woman, a woman hitting a woman, a man hitting a man, or a woman hitting a man. Let the cops sort it out.. the moment that girl’s iPod/iPhone was lifted, the boyfriend should’ve called 911 or asked someone else to call 911 – or even threatened to call 911. I’d wager it would’ve turned out quite differently. The one *advantage* of being on the bus is the perpetrator can’t just run off like they can during a street assault or robbery.

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[Jiggers]

Seinfeld’s last episode was about this type of behavior were a guy was getting robbed and they just stood and watched. Well.. you know the ending to that TV series. There is a real law written about not helping someone else out. Maybe Seattle needs to implement this law too.

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[JimmyG]

I encourage any of you who think this is an isolated happening on a Metro bus take a few more bus rides outside of the commute downtown or around here in WS.

Spend a few hours on the 7, or on the “A” Rapid Ride line (the old 174 route), the 358 where this assault happened, or a number of other routes. You’ll see bullying, bad behavior, assaults, gang activity, robberies, drug dealing and thefts.

Everyday.

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[AHexpat]

Jiggers, I wish I could say cool racist stuff to people and not be afraid of being called a racist too. They should stop any bus that runs through the “hood” at the borders to the “real” West Seattle, pull off all of the people you don’t like, right? Don’t forget to keep your head down and not make any eye contact with the poors or browns next time you scurry into Proletariat PIzza.

On all of the forum topics about the guy spray painting homophobic graffiti, I don’t recall anyone attempting to link the crime to his race, why is it different with these girls?

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[DP]

In one of his posts above, I think Jiggers is referring to the “Good Samaritan Law.”

Good Samaritan laws mean different things in different jurisdictions, but they generally don’t mean that bystanders have to do something to intervene in a fight, offer roadside assistance to accident victims, etc.

Here’s the Wikipedia summary:

Good Samaritan laws are laws or acts protecting those who choose to serve and tend to others who are injured or ill. They are intended to reduce bystanders’ hesitation to assist, for fear of being sued or prosecuted for unintentional injury or wrongful death.

Seattle has a Good Samaritan law, which was passed this year. It’s targeted specifically at drug overdose cases and partially shields from prosecution for “possession” those drug users — especially heroin users — who report an overdose.

http://tinyurl.com/wa-good-samaritan

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[Garden_nymph]

JimmyG,

I’m guessing you’re not the new marketing rep hired to increases Metro ridership?!

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[BBGuest]

If you are afraid for whatever reason, THIS WORKS. Where others are in earshot, move away speaking loudly. PRETEND you have a bluetooth whether you do or you do not. Don’t take the time it might take to call 911 and wait for them to answer. Just start talking!

Here is an example: while walking my dog at night I saw some suspicious activity, a car parked with people inside, and slow moving car coming up along side of me, on the wrong side of the street.

“I am on the corner of ….. and ….” loud and clear enough for people to hear me, with my hand up to my ear the whole time,pretending the police were listening intently.

If the situation warrants, and is safe enough for you, also pretend to take pictures and call whatever authority applies to what is going on.

This situation was 4 minutes? It would probably take 911 that long to answer and go through their questions! Moving away from the situation is very important of course. Protect yourself, then protect others.

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